This Walmart Shopper Saw A Firearm Holstered Under A Man’s Shirt — And Did The Unthinkable

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by Jason DeWitt | Top Right News

When one customer entered a Florida Walmart on Tuesday, he was barely able to make it past the front door.

That’s because, when 62-year-old Clarence Daniels walked into Walmart, as captured on video, someone came up behind him and threw him to the ground — thinking he must be a “bad guy” — because he had a gun!

Fox 13 identified the would-be “hero” as Michael Foster, who restrained the elder Daniels even more, once he was on the ground.

Some other shoppers were convinced by Foster  to help him with the pending “citizen’s arrest”. They even took away Daniel’s holstered firearm that was under his shirt. Then, Foster called 911.

Foster was in for a big surprise, when the authorities he called arrived and put — not Daniels — but himself into the back of the squad car.

That is because Daniels had a concealed carry permit. And during the scuffle witnesses said Daniels was yelling out that he had a license for the weapon — which Foster completely ignored!

Foster is being charged with one count of battery. But his reckless actions, ignorant of Florida gun laws, could have resulted in something much worse had the firearm accidentally discharged during the fracas.

This is what happens when hysterical anti-gun groups continue to demonize lawful gun owners and popular concealed carry gun laws.

 


  • DonM

    Idiot……

  • Ronnie Verne

    Daniels was a fool to allow his gun to be seen by the public when he got out
    of his car. They call it CCW permit for a reason! Carry Concealed Weapon!

    • Guest

      Do you know where it was kept? It says under his shirt…so who knows the full story, the full details? Well not you, but perhaps the cops who arrived and investigated and made the decision to arrest. But as usual armchair citizens think they have the full story and make informed opinions. Or maybe you didn’t really think your opinion was all that informed, you just decided it’s worth putting out there.

      • Ronnie Verne

        Well apparently I know more then you! One of the story’s I read said he
        got out of his car and proceeded to take the gun and holster out of his
        car and put it under his shirt, in plain view of other people in the parking
        lot. So much for being Concealed!!

        • Guest

          If he did something wrong then the cops would find it out as part of the investigation. It’s your word against people who are trained, talked to witnesses, looked at cameras, and who do this for a living, including making the proper judgment calls.

          Think about it, if the guy had a reasonable right to suspect he was a criminal, or that this wasn’t a properly concealed weapon under Florida law, then he really wouldn’t be arrested. They would say well the truth is, Mr. Daniels, your weapon wasn’t concealed properly, so it’s an honest mistake. But they didn’t. I’m not suggesting I know more than you, and I never did. I said you don’t know more than the police and the prosecutors.

          • Pickat_Fence

            I don’t care if you know that I’m carrying, you can report me but you can’t assault me. If you see someone draw a weapon to commit a crime, then you may intervene.

          • Eric

            You mean, they can intervene when it is now considered too dangerous for a normal citizen to intervene? Yeah, I get that the guy who tackled him was in the wrong, but you do realize that even knowing the law, people may become more wary of a person who is carrying, right? An employee would have had every right to stop him to gauge intent, directly or indirectly.

          • Kyle439

            Its not your job to intervene. why would you intervene? Give him what he wants , report later so you can go home and See your family. Its why cops jobs are so dangerous, they get paid and trained to handle this stuff. If you want to play hero, know the law, be trained and hope for the best.

          • Eric

            Did you not read the comment I replied to or something?

            “If you see someone draw a weapon to commit a crime, then you may intervene.”

            You miss that part?

          • Gary Hall

            No, an employee would NOT have the right to stop him. You can’t stop every gun carrier just to make sure they have a permit. Can you stop every driver just to make sure they have their licence? No. It idiots like you that criminalize lawfully carrying a firearm.

          • Eric

            Yes, the employee WOULD have the right to stop them, especially Loss Prevention. I never said they were stopping them to make sure they had a permit, I said they could stop them to gauge INTENT. Do you know what “intent” means? Being a former retail / loss prevention employee, I’ve stopped several gun owners to chat with them to simply ask them about their day, how they’re feeling, etc to gauge what kind of threat level they might be while carrying said gun.

            It’s idiots like YOU that don’t know such simple concepts like this. Our store, our right to check in on you to see if we should feel threatened by your presence or not.

          • Gary Hall

            Wrong again. Good for you on the credentials though. I am a US Marine trained in OPSEC as well as a South Carolina SLED certified security specialist.

            I never said that you couldn’t chat with them (if they FELT like chatting). I said that you couldn’t stop them. If you approached them and they simply ignored you and kept walking there would be nothing you could legally do about it. You “feeling threatened” by the simple act of somebody possessing a firearm where it is perfectly legal to do so does not constitute a right to interrogation. You DON’T know their intent, and you can’t operate on HUNCHES and “bad vibes”.

          • Eric

            “I am a US Marine trained in OPSEC as well as a South Carolina SLED certified security specialist.” Too bad that is not Loss Prevention for a retail store. Thanks for being a Marine, but being a Marine doesn’t mean you know how retail stores operate or have ever worked in one as Loss Prevention.

            We can’t operate on “hunches” and “bad vibes”? Again, another sign you have no idea how Loss Prevention in retail works. We see someone that is waving a potentially red flag, we lightly investigate by asking the person if they need any help. If they blow us off or continue to act in a manner that might be red flag worthy, we shadow them until they commit a crime like theft or drawing their weapon.

            Carrying a firearm into a retail store is automatically a bit of a red flag because you now have an individual who has the potential to cause serious harm or commit robbery. That’s the whole point between “gauging their intent”, you briefly stop them to ask about their day / if you can help them, if they chat you up you ease up but still be aware of them since they have a firearm, if they blow you off you continue to watch them because they have a firearm.

            This is BASIC Loss Prevention stuff. Asking them if you can help them as a way to get a handle on their mood and intent is not “interrogating” them.

          • Gary Hall

            You missed the “South Carolina SLED certified security specialist” part. That would be the “Resort and Retail” side of my background.

            The Marines made me knowledgeable of weapons, while OPSEC made me more aware of situations and how to read their potential (only slightly related to retail, but was still largely focused on civilians). The emphasis on civilian was relevant due to the fact that they are not military, and thus operate under other laws and restrictions. So even if something is “off”, doesn’t automatically give us the right to make contact.

            I HAVE worked retail security (loss prevention), as well as resort and private/personal security.

            Again, I never said you couldn’t try to chat. But be aware that if the person feels singled out due to your reaction to their lawful carry, your company and/or you may be subject to prosecution.

          • Eric

            That’s what training is for, so that you don’t make them feel singled out. If you have worked retail security, then your state / area is very different than mine. And your statement of “even if something is “off”, doesn’t automatically give us the right to make contact” is false, at least in my area, because a retail employee can make contact with a customer while they are on the floor at any time. Something feeling “off” is exactly why plain clothes Loss Prevention will make contact to ask if they can help you with anything.

            We’re agreeing but not agreeing in the manner in which it should / can be handled. We were trained to cover information gathering (in regards to intent) as basic customer service. Once we assessed the situation after brief contact, if we felt the customer was no threat we would not actively shadow them (just like a customer who we felt had the intent to shoplift) but we’d still keep eyes on them now and then. If we felt they were a threat, we’d wait / shadow and make basic contact again (with someone else), if they continued to act in a manner that threw up a red flag, we’d have eyes on them with cameras as well as on the floor but we would not accost them or prevent them from shopping, but we’d be ready to dial 911 and handle the process as trained.

          • Jason Page

            I 100% argee.

          • Jack Savage

            I think you need to either be retrained, or reread the law in your state. Because the research didn’t take maybe ten minutes. As an LP Specialist, any non physical contact you may have with a customer can be construed as detainment. As a Loss Prevention Specialist, you can not touch a customer unless a few things happen. (1) You see them approach merchandise, (2) You see them take and hide the merchandise (3) You see them not pay for the merchandise, (4) you see them leave the store. Then under Arizona State law. Then and Only then do you have the right to detain a person.

            As for harassing a customer because he has a gun and that sends up a red flag to you, I would advise you to find another job. You live if freaking Arizona. If you dont like guns either find a Doc that will write you a prescription for a pair of testicles, go back to California, or get out of a line of work where 50% of the population (that is the population in AZ that actively EDC’s) give you a red flag. At 32 years of age and in AZ, if that gives you a red flag, you have issues.

          • Eric

            And I would advise you to have better reading comprehension prior to posting your idiotic replies.

            Asking someone “can I help you” to get a gauge on their mood or intent is not any form of detainment, because even non-LP employees can walk up to any customer on the floor and ask “hey, can I help you with something?” NEVER did I say I touched anyone.

            “Harassing a customer”? Asking “can I help you?” is harassment now? Who’s lacking the testicles here? OH NO GUYS, HE ASKED ME ABOUT MY DAY!

            I find it cute that you perused my Facebook page to try and come back with some intelligent insults, yet only returned with yet more idiocy. You apparently have zero ability to actually understand what is actually written and even less ability to reply back with anything intelligent.

          • Jack Savage

            I love your condescending attitude there “Champ”. I came back at you with the same blatant attitude that you showed everyone on here with your responses. Juvenile at best, condescending and downright wrong at worst. It is guys with an attitude like that that have no business being in that environment. You are not a cop. You are a LP Specialist. Which means you are to prevent merchandise from being lost. If you feel every gun owner automatically raises a red flag. Follow procedure, call 911. And see how many times it takes before an officer decides that maybe YOU need to be charged.

            School shootings? 24 in the 70s, 35 in the 80s. Yes bad, and the definition of and reporting of school shootings has led to a marked increase. But that jumps right out the window. We are talking retail, and someone carrying a gun.

            You remind me of a guy in Groton Connecticut in the early 1990’s. He had a problem with people carrying firearms in his store. He was some sort of assistant manager. This of course is a military town, and back then many of the military did carry to and from work. After his fourth time calling the cops, because of a suspicious person with a gun, he was escorted out, in handcuffs. But just to be assured, if a situation as you have described more than once on here ever occurred. I would make the complaint to the store supervision, and then I would make damned sure that my money was never spent at that store again. Along with spreading the word regarding the treatment of law abiding firearms. Trying to “assess” someone who has been around and asked many of the same questions of psychological assessment, and initial LE contact, you would find some will eventually take offense, especially if it continued to happen.

          • Eric

            You do realize other activities that are completely law abiding, like looking around “suspiciously” are also potential “red flags” to LP, right? You do realize a lot of LP stops potential theft / harm by making gentle first contact via asking “how are you?”, right? You do realize that LP can still follow any customer via camera, without having to make any contact, right?

            And let’s go back to your inability to understand anything that has been said here, in regards to your Mickey Mouse story about some dude in the ’90s.

            He called the cops because he was just suspicious of an armed customer? Oh… will you look at that, I only mentioned phoning 911 only after: A) watching them in both person and on camera, B) making verbal contact with them, C) making sure they did not continue to act as if they were ready to commit a crime. 911 would only be called if they committed a crime or if they were acting SO suspicious that even a non-LP person would be wary of them.

            So… where did I say I thought I was a cop?

          • BDW

            have all of the hunches you want but if you touch me or attempt to detain me you will find out real quickly that you are not the only one with military training. You sound like a guy well on his way to ending up in jail or the hospital…

          • Eric

            Again, where did I say touching or detaining? You sound like a guy who has no idea how to understand what is being said.

            Coming up to you and asking “hey, is there anything I can help you with?” is not detaining. Shadowing you either on the floor or with cameras is not touching you.

            Perhaps you should understand what is being said before you reply so often.

          • BDW

            “nope Im good” if I see you following me Im going to ask very loudly who are you and why are you following me……..I will embarrass you and out you to the entire store.

          • Eric

            You won’t see me following you because I didn’t follow people. You don’t need to follow people to actually shadow them.

          • BDW

            You would be surprised what some of us see. You arent the only one with training like that and I doubt you are that good.

          • Eric

            You do realize Loss Prevention can call on cameras to monitor you, right? Calm down Rambo.

          • BDW

            ill “blow” your super secret cover……

          • BDW

            From your other post it looks like we agree on a great deal of subjects but obviously this isnt one of them

          • Jeremiah Glosenger

            Thank you for clarifying that you don’t think that, “An employee would have had every right to stop him.” Asking someone how they are doing and keeping an eye on them is perfectly legal, albeit unnecessary and unwarranted if all they are doing is carrying and minding their own business. Considering that a citizen carrying a firearm is “automatically a bit of a red flag” simply shows your bias. I grew up in Maryland and used to have that bias. When I was in a state that allowed carrying, I would keep an eye on anyone I saw carrying a gun and start imaging what could possibly happen. Now that I carry daily and have taught the CWP classes for over 6 years, I feel much more comfortable knowing that others are carrying. It is amazing how your views can change when you have those experiences.

          • Eric

            It’s not bias, it’s about safety. You could be the most law abiding citizen or the most hardened criminal, but either way a firearm is “a bit of a red flag” because as I stated before, it automatically means that you have an object in your possession that allows you to cause damage or perform theft easier than someone without it. Period. There’s no “bias” in that, that’s a logical fact. Person + Nothing = Not as big as a potential threat as Person + Weapon does.

          • BDW

            a loss prevention employee has zero rights over that of any other citizen. Walmart may tell you that you are special but ask the guy who laid hands on me because I didnt want to stop and show him my receipt. He ended up on the ground and guess what….the police told him not to touch people…

          • Eric

            …where did I say we had special rights? Can you not read and comprehend what is being said?

          • BDW

            you seem to think that you have a right to question me if i dont feel like being questioned….not going to happen.

          • Eric

            Every one has the right to simply walk up to you and ask you a question. Do you not understand this?

          • BDW

            ask me what you want….ill ignore and walk on…..and you have already at that time alerted me to who you are and what you are doing

          • Stan Bryars

            Yes an employee would have the right to stop him. It’s private property and they have the right to determine the rules of their property

          • Pickat_Fence

            Negative; it is retail property…a place of business. An employee may approach me and ask me a question. I may or may not choose to respond. I may choose to continue on my path, completely ignoring them.

          • Stan Bryars

            You might want to do a little research on that before you put it into practice.
            You only get to enter their PRIVATE PROPERTY at their pleasure.
            If that employee gives you instructions or asks you a question and you choose to ignore them, they will then ask you to leave. If you ignore that instruction you can be arrested for trespassing.It escalates the felony charge of armed trespassing if you are carrying.
            That’s already settled case law

          • BDW

            noone has a right to stop me or question me about my weapon unless you have a badge

          • Eric

            No one’s questioning you about your weapon. Maybe you should actually both read AND understand comments prior to replying.

            An employee, especially a Loss Prevention employee, can stop you to gauge your intent in the store and make the decision to access you as not a threat and therefore just be aware of your presence in the store or a threat where they have you watched.

            It’s our store, it’s our employee lives and it’s our merchandise. We have every right to acknowledge the fact that, because you have a firearm, you have an instrument on you that makes it easier for you to cause harm to our employee lives and steal our merchandise. With those facts, we can watch to make sure you are a law abiding citizen who is just there to pick up a gallon of milk.

          • BDW

            you have no right to question me about anything. I have zero obligation to even speak with you. If you approach me I will ignore you. If you attempt to touch me or detain me in any way shape or form I will make sure that you are stopped from doing that. Do your job…watch people and call the police….you dont have a badge…

          • Pickat_Fence

            In many places, even as a loss prevention weenie, you don’t have the right to apprehend an individual if they are walking out of the store with merchandise. You might ask them to come back in the store with you, but you can’t use physical force.

          • Pickat_Fence

            So you have interrupted my day to find out that I may be a little agitated with you. I ignore you and continue on my way; now what? Do you continue to harass me or do you just watch me on your cameras. One could just as easily walk to the camping section and pick up a machete or the hardware section and pick up a ball peen hammer and now are armed with an “instrument” that makes it easier to cause harm to those in the store.

          • Eric

            You haven’t been reading at all, have you?

            Yes, one could easily just walk over to hardware, just as one could easily walk over to the shoe department, grab a heavy work boot and start whacking people on the head with it. Or one could co to the scarf section and start choking people out. Is the point you’re attempting to make is that everything can be a weapon? Are you suggesting that we do something like go full military just so you, a gun carrier, don’t feel they are “treated unfairly” just because a woman could go insane with a high heel just as easily as she could with a licensed firearm?

            Is that what you want LP to do? Or do you want to, MAYBE, act logical for once in this post and realize simple facts, that yeah… a machete can hurt people, but you didn’t bring the machete into the store. You brought your own weapon. How is that hard for you to understand?

          • Pickat_Fence

            Become wary all you want. If you’re scared, notify management or leave the store. I’m glad that it is common enough, here, that we don’t have idiots stopping us at the door “gauging our intent”. My God…I can only imagine how you’d handle open carry!

          • Eric

            And another one comes out swinging!

            Scared? Who said anything about scared? Yep, asking “hello sir, how are you?” certainly is idiotic. (that’s sarcasm, since you seem to be yet another dummy) How did I handle open carry when I was in LP? The same way I handled concealed or anyone else that “looked suspicious”, we make contact, gauge intent, watch if necessary. Didn’t we cover this days ago?

          • Ronnie Verne

            Wait and see?? In my County he would be setting in the Sheriffs office
            explaining how

          • GROW UP!

            some people refuse to be wrong on here don’t they !! not a question

          • Ronnie Verne

            I guess their not old enough to know any better??

          • Doug

            He also had a reasonable right to suspect he might be an undercover police officer or maybe even a lawful gun owner with a permit. He should have at worst followed the guy around the store or at best alerted a manager and let the store handle the situation instead of playing Rambo and putting others at risk with his reckless actions.

        • Pickat_Fence

          And that’s how we do it. When in the vehicle, you have it within reach, as it may not be accessible when sitting. When you get out, you place it in the holster, tuck it under the shirt and voila!! Concealed weapon! No law against it. A shame there are no laws against idiots.

        • Stretchnutz666

          Have you ever sat in a car with a gun in your waistband ? Not comfortable.

          • Ronnie Verne

            I’ve done it for 45 yrs, so suck it up, maybe find a better Holster!!

          • Doug

            Ronnie, you’re an idiot. With the “fly off the handle” remarks you keep spewing I hope your CCW permit gets revoked because you’re psycho dude. If I get stopped by the police while I’m driving I would rather have my gun on the seat beside me or in the center console rather than inside my shirt just in case officer Fife has me exit my vehicle. He would feel more comfortable, as well as myself, when I tell him my weapon is inside my car rather than telling him it’s under my shirt for him to retrieve. My holster is usually in the middle of my back so sitting in the car with it in that position is quite uncomfortable.

          • Ronnie Verne

            Doug! LOL, The first thing is not to get stopped by the Police, that’s a problem from the get go. If you do you just hand the officer your Lic, Reg, Ins. card
            and CCW permit. You (don’t) get out of the veh. unless the nice officer ask you to!!

          • Kay Kristin

            LOL – a good cop can find a reason to pull ANYONE over after following him for three blocks.

          • Bruce Li

            no you dont freaking move till the nice officer tell you to once you reveal you have a weapon in the vehicle 🙂

          • lawman

            Well pard, if you really had it there you could get a little uncomfortable. I carried mine back there for over nineteen years, eight hours a day.

          • Icarus

            The guy looked he was carrying a full size1911, those are heavy. So I can see him putting it on when he gets out of the car because he can’t move around in the car with it.

          • Stanmaxkolbe

            Maybe in FL in TX you do not need a CHL to carry a loaded handgun in your car but in MUST BE CONCEALED! If an Officer walks up to your car and the handgun is seen you go to jail.

        • Gary Hall

          Which is legal.

          • EL VERDUGO

            Ronnie, i am a LEO in central florida and i believe you are a bit of a problem with your weapon. Many residents with ccw often do fix mount or re-position their wepon on waist etc after exiting vehicle, even officers do and we open carry. Its not against the law if the gun briefly shows through no intention. You need to read florids’a open carry and educate yourself. I have a feeling you are heading towards trouble

        • Kay Kristin

          Sorry, just gotta say…..it’s STORIES, not STORY’S. Damn, I hate that.

      • Stanmaxkolbe

        I know in TX if you have a CHL and if it’s seen you will be arrested they don’t play concealed means concealed. I’m in a store I reach for some thing my gun is seen I just broke the law and can be arrested for it.

        • Guest

          again WRONG…….the key word in the statute is “purposefully’ in TEXAS… Educate yourself before you spew

        • BDW

          The language changed from “intentionally fails to conceal the handgun” to “intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person in a public place.”……September 1 2013………..

    • Doug

      He was in the right according to Florida law. Education is a scary thing for liberals.
      Florida Open Carry Law

      790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—

      (1) Except
      as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for
      any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or
      electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a
      person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1),
      and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to
      briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another
      person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or
      threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

      (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:

      (a) A self-defense chemical spray.

      (b) A
      nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric
      weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.

      (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

      • Ronnie Verne

        Well Doug, were on the same page, except for the Flashing of a CCW , that,.
        is asking for trouble, as the (victim) found out. And I am so far from being a Liberal were not even on the same planet! Have a good nite, talk to you later.

        • Doug

          Well, the brief open display covers the guy concealing his weapon. It happens. Good to know you’re not on the Darkside! lol, good night to you too sir!

    • Gary Hall

      You obviously don’t carry.

    • EL VERDUGO

      Hey , the holster is what he saw and just a part of it, it happens and its ccw not to show the weapon itself. The weapon never exposed. Im glad you are perfect and read all facts then call people fools.

    • TruStJ

      Unless you live in an open carry state AND a CC state. The problem is we SHOULD be able to carry arms and this wouldn’t be an issue.

    • PavePusher

      Constitutional Rights do NOT require camouflage. And an accidental glimpse of a lawfully concealed sidearm is NOT justification for ANY physical reaction.

  • cookiect2003

    Situations like this? Guy he tackled would have been 100% in the clear if he had put one in this ass-hat’s brain. He’s lucky he picked on a 60 something. Very lucky.

  • disqus_PjBpDnyQSS

    Should get him on unlawful arrest also on top of battery plus being completely stupid

    • Kay Kristin

      Ahhh, yes, if only there were a law against stupidity…..we can dream…

      • jupakos79

        Obama and the “Left” won’t make laws affect the. We need to stop calling them democrats and call them what they really are, Communist.

        • Tex

          Good point.

        • ma

          Before bashing a side, why not focus on clearly articulating your point using correct grammar? You’ll end up just weakening your point and looking like a buffoon!

          The “left” nor the “right” can correct stupidity or ignorance! Obviously, this guy wasn’t aware of the laws in his state. Typical Florida.

          • Ernie Mann

            O boy aren’t you above everyone else . With all the articulating you did you actually said nothing . If this Foster jerk was checking everyone out for a gun he should have known the law , if he didn’t that make’s him a stupid liberal .

          • vickybevis

            Isn’t that “Typical Floridian?”

          • David Thomas

            I see you have no problem bashing.

        • Thad79

          Obama has nothing to do with this incident. Neither do Democrats or communists.

          I’ll call you what you really are: an idiot.

          • William Canfield

            Thad you an idiot to thank obama and the democrats had nothing to do with it.

      • AzPyke

        Actually there is a stupid law in Arizona. If you cross a flooded area with or without signage posted and you have to be rescued. You have to pay for all of the rescuers, their vehicles, and any damage incurred.

        • Linda D

          What’s wrong with expecting people to use common sense, or having to pay for it if they don’t?

        • Jeannie Alvarado

          That is the best… for those PEOPLE that are FLOOD STUPID.. I THINK YOU SHOULD GO FOR A LONG SWIM!
          BAHAHA WHY PAY!

        • Bryan Bell

          You should only have to pay if it was your own stupidity (i.e. – if there are signs posted OR if fair warnings have been issued. If the dumbasses that have to get rescued don’t pay for it, guess who does!!

          • PavePusher

            Anyone who drives into any sizeable body of water without first checking for depth and flow, vs. vehicle ability, is stupid, whether there is a sign or not.

        • PavePusher

          I don’t see anything stupid about that law.

          Perhaps you can explain?

        • kd

          It is called the stupid motorist law for a reason.

        • Mike

          The law itself isn’t stupid and it was passed because of all the stupid motorists driving around the barricades. Hence the name Stupid Motorist Law.

        • madmadam

          How is that stupid they are putting their life’s on the line and everyones tax money on vehicles and equipment for idiots who can’t read a sign ?

        • jd

          How is that a stupid law? I agree with the law, since drivers’ stupidity is needlessly costing money and endangering the lives of first responders!

          • James Rose

            jd, they aren’t calling the law stupid, they are calling the motorists stupid. It’s the STUPID MOTORIST law, not STUPID motorist LAW. Or you could say it’s a law for stupid motorist not a stupid law for motorists.

        • Bob

          I live in AZ. The stupid motorist law is to prevent drivers crossing flooded roads and then having to be rescued by the fire dept. Most have signs that state “don’t cross when flooded” If a motorist, or in this case a stupid motorist crosses a flooded road, that stupid motorist gets the Bill to be rescued. I look at it this way, a bill being sent to the stupid motorist is just a little less chance that money is being spent on something stupid.

        • William Marchand

          AND. i believe your name it put in the paper for violating the stupid law.

          • William Marchand

            Also in AZ you have to think about the ground missing under the water. I have seen it wash out as much as 6 feet deep.

      • Barto

        If there was a law against stupidity, most all Liberals would be in jail and we taxpayers would have to pay for construction of more prisons. Seems we can’t win, but it would probably be worth the expense.

    • polluxdc

      And reckless endangerment

  • onewhoknows

    You never ever want to perform a “citizen’s arrest”. You’ll be sued to high heaven, and may end up in the cross-bar hotel also.

  • Whiteeagle

    OKAY …. I’m ‘Ruling Out’ THIS Scenario … HERE’S WHY …. Because IF This Foster Chump Tackles The Elderly Man, Knowing He’s Got A Gun …. THEN, He COULD Wait UNTIL The Gentleman Proceeded To Initiate His “Crime” Just As Well … And Then Be A REAL Hero … IT DOES Look Like The Foster Chump Wanted ‘Hero-Status’ At An Everyday ‘Low-Price’ … LOL !!!

  • kaleo1428

    Under Florida law the concealed carry weapon must be concealed…..NOT seen. Both are wrong.

    • eirenne

      not quite what the law reads, you may want to recheck that.

    • Gary Hall

      Wrong, dumb-dumb. Since you don’t carry, don’t worry about it. Those that ARE licenced receive training to understand the laws (as you have NOT).

      • EL VERDUGO

        Florida Open Carry Law

        790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—

        (1) Except
        as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for
        any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or
        electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a
        person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1),
        and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to
        briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another
        person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or
        threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

        (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:

        (a) A self-defense chemical spray.
        clear as daylight
        (b) A
        nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric
        weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.

        (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

        • Gary Hall

          Exactly.

    • EL VERDUGO

      Florida Open Carry Law

      790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—

      (1) Except
      as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for
      any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or
      electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a
      person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1),
      and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to
      briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another
      person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or
      threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

      (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:

      (a) A self-defense chemical spray.

      (b) A
      nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric
      weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.

      (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

  • William Stevens

    Its very difficult for liberals to understand why someone may have a concealed gun permit. They never venture into reality very much so credibility does not exist for them. They only perform as the Marching Morons in this new Millineium.

    • Gary Vincent

      Yes they are nothing more than mindless automatons that do and say what their leaders like Pelosi, Reid, and Obama say they cant think for themselves or have their own arguments for or against anything.

  • fx-tech

    What a maroon!!! I would have loved to see that guy getting handcuffed, all full of himself.. Probably thought he’d be on the evening news as a hero. No, mow he’s a joke…

  • Justanaveragejoeinmd

    Hope the assailant gets to be Bubba’s b!tch.

  • Gary Vincent

    Sue him for every penny he has or ever will have.

  • Randy Osman

    Ronnie,so what if he pulled it out at his car ,thats not against the law 2nd adm. any body can carry open.unless your not a US citizen.

  • jupakos79

    See something, say something. Way to encourage idiots to act stupud.

  • EL VERDUGO

    Florida Open Carry Law

    790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—

    (1) Except
    as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for
    any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or
    electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a
    person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1),
    and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to
    briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another
    person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or
    threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

    (2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:

    (a) A self-defense chemical spray.

    (b) A
    nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric
    weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.

    (3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

    many are soooooooo wrong

  • Josh Gilman

    The guy is an idiot – he could have been a retired cop.

  • Sam Massengill

    Sue all of those involved ….

  • kaleo1428

    If a cop were to see your weapon or if you printed you would be cuffed. If you think exposing your weapon is cool you need to rethink why you carry.

    • BDW

      The language changed from “intentionally fails to conceal the handgun” to “intentionally displays the handgun in plain view of another person in a public place.”

  • Dale Patterson

    The lesson here is, or should be, don’t wait to get out of your vehicle to conceal your weapon… Do it while you’re still in the vehicle out of clear sight of others… Otherwise, it’s not really concealed, is it?…

  • BDW

    he is really lucky that he wasnt shot…..some carry a backup…..

  • Dandydanderoo

    Idiot. Educate yourself!

  • Tex

    What a douche bag, leftist. They’re all the same.

  • Charlie Ireland

    The Saying—if you see something say something– not attack the person.

  • Mike Rarey

    Liberals are not just ignorant; they’re wilfully ignorant.

  • w_r

    Hmm now that’s a Damn shame Florida doesn’t have similar laws to new York cause if they did than every person to touch that man’s pistol without their own pistol permit would be arrested!!

  • PavePusher

    Fuck-wit Foster should only be allowed in public if accompanied by adult supervision.

  • Constitutional Brat

    “lawful gun owners” Unfortunately we have to make this distinction in America. If we were constitutional any citizen of the United States is lawful while carrying a gun!

  • The overages delusional school yard bully should have been charged with assault upon an elderly person and theft of a firearm as well. Afterall, what he actually did was a strong arm robbery. This idiot Foster got off too lightly if you view this incident on realistic terms.

  • Cnychu

    It’s really a great shame that stupidity isn’t painful.

  • Vance Freeman

    isn’t this kidnapping also???

    • Syberlink

      You would have to move him from one location to another, I think.

  • jharrison

    There is the potential for a major civil suit. If he had been able to reach his weapon it would have been a justifiable homicide (aka self defense.)

  • Michelle Wells

    That’s what happens when stupid people carry their guns in public! just because you have an open carry license doesn’t mean you should! And he had it partially hidden! Idiot!

    • William Stevens

      Do you really know why he needs a carry license? Do you really have enough facts to make statements like you did? Problem with these Yahoo articles is they never give you enough facts so be very careful.

    • BuddyLuv

      Michelle, you may want to read the article again. The gun was partially hidden because he actually had a CCW, not an open carry. In your rush to paint the victim as an idiot and stupid, you succeeded in exposing yourself as such.

  • Hefailed

    I’m not in favor of people being tackled unless absolutely necessary, but given the number of incidents of idiots going into schools, movie theaters, parking lots, etc, and opening up on people or their ex-wife, ex-husband, ex-boss, ex-doctor, ex-lawyer, I think perhaps the more prudent way to have handled this would be to call 911 and let the police deal with it. I mean, come on – if you see somebody in the parking lot tucking a weapon under his shirt, are you going to assume he has a CCW permit or that he’s a cop? I sure hope not.

  • Emerodie

    I love how nobody makes any comments about the child that almost got taken down with them when Foster tackled him. Standing beside him at 9 seconds into the video, and at 1:09-1:12 running to hide behind the middle anti theft scanner.
    Probably another reason why he got arrested, endangering the nearby minors who could have been hit if the weapon discharged during the scuffle.

  • Jayburgener

    I can’t help but think of this comparison , the left and especially this administration want everyone to believe that ALL guns should be taken away it seems. A small group of crazy people use guns wrong and therefore we must ban guns.
    But we have a larger percentage of radical muslims ( percentages here. How many muslims versus how many of them are radical jihadists , compared to how many legal law abiding gun owners versus the number of people who use them for murdering innocent people )
    Who do these horrific acts of violence in the name of some prophet. Yet this admin wants you to believe it’s just a small percentage of bad peoplewho are MIS-using the name of Islam .
    Which i agree the people who are twisted and sick are the problem.
    But my point here is why they don’t apply the same standard to legal gun owners.
    After all there is no difference to me. You don’t ban muslims because of the crazy ones.mjustlike they shouldn’t ban guns because a small percentage of psychotic people use them to do harm.

  • Lecia Tallman

    STUPIDITY OF THE LIBERAL IGNORANCE…..

  • notbuttkissinlib

    Should get him for kidnapping also since he unlawfully restrained the guy.

  • Republicans Are-idiots

    Another self righteous racist republican, guns for everyone, except black people

    • doornazi

      WHO SAID BLACKS CAN NOT HAVE GUNS????

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