Rev. Franklin Graham Explains Why Obama is Protecting Islam

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by Jason DeWitt | Top Right News

Rev. Franklin Graham appeared with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News to discuss Obama’s Orwellian word games, including his refusal to identify the 21 beheaded Christians as “Christians,” instead, referring to them as “citizens” and “innocents;” and also the total whitewashing of Islam at his “extremism summit.”

Rev. Graham, who runs the international relief organization Samaritan’s Purse, told Van Susteren that Obama is refusing to “accept and understand the evil that is in front of him.”

“The president is ignoring the fact that these are Islamic extremists,” Rev. Graham told Greta. “And they are bent on destroying the West. They’ve already said they want the flag of Islam to fly over the White House.”

On Tuesday, a stunned Rev. Graham wrote on Facebook (via Matthew Burke), “I am perplexed as to why our President will not acknowledge the truth and call Islamic extremism what it is.”

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Graham told Greta that Obama’s whole life has been influenced by Islam, including his upbringing, which is the reason why he’s defending Islam at all costs.

“The president, his entire life — his whole influence has been Islam,” he reminded Greta. “His mother was married to a Muslim. His father was a Muslim. Then she married a man from Indonesia. He was raised in Indonesia. Went to Islamic schools. (His mother) was a Muslim.

Obama has infamously declared on several occasions, to the shock of many Americans, that America is not a Christian nation, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It has disturbed millions of Americans that their own president is intent on spreading this false message throughout the world.

“So his whole life, his experiences have been surrounded by Islam. He only knows Islam. And, he’s given a pass to Islam. He’s refusing to accept and understand the evil that is in front of him,” Rev. Graham asserted.

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  • jm

    He is a musslime? Really? DUH, go figure. Mr. Graham You are 6.5 years behind the rest of the country knowing that. That is why everyone needs to write their reps. and demand he, his appointees and their appointees with all their policies must be immediately removed, detained and sorted out after new election. This fool and all that work for or with him are lawless, infiltrators and treasonous towards our country.

    • good luck with that, Jm. It’s too late. It’s over. Prepare for eternity.

      • anoman

        lol. “Eternity”…you mean the big nothing that happens after we die?

        • David Geffeney

          I take it you are certain, so there is no need to encourage opening up to ideas of the beyond. I suppose the obvious question is “how do you know”?

          • anoman

            If you want to make a claim about something, then cough up evidence in support of it. My position is the default one, I don’t need to “prove” anything because it’s simply everything we’ve observed scientifically. I’ve decided to face reality. Santa claus isn’t real and an eternity in bliss with a skydaddy isn’t either, get over it.

            And I ALWAYS encourage discussion and the opening up of ideas…bring them on. Do you have any evidence for an afterlife?

          • Jane Myer

            Watch the movie “God’s Not Dead” and “Heaven Is For Real”

          • anoman

            Already did, they were the most pathetic movies ever. Not only was it horrible acting, but there was zero evidence.

            Watch COSMOS, it’ll blow you away as you face the reality that we are insignificant creatures inhabiting a rock that’s spinning around an average sized star. I’m just as disappointed as you when faced with the prospect that “this is it”, that there’s no skydaddy who loves me and no eternal yum yums waiting for me.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            So I guess your saying science is never wrong?

          • Guest

            They once thought the world wasn’t round.

          • yardoe

            That’s the muslims that think that.

          • anoman

            Like the writers of the Bible. But now we know it is.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Wrong. The bible teaches the earth as it is. Way before man figured it out.

          • anoman

            No it doesn’t. It teaches that there is a “firmament” which is basically a dome. They thought it was a flat disc with a big “dome” over us. And then in other places it contradicts that idea and portrays earth as a flat square with “corners”…you may say “oh it’s just symbolic” but no really, if they really were enlightened by God why not just get it right instead of using blatantly inapplicable “symbolism”?

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Isiah 40:22. Job 26:10. 2 of the older books in the bible

          • anoman

            Thanks for confirming what I said.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            The evidence for Christianity is The Person of Jesus Christ and The Bible. You need to do your research. For a person to believe all creation exists by accident is according to scripture a fool. Science says everything goes from order to chaos. macro evolution goes from chaos to order. Have you ever observed chaos going to order without inteligence. The answer is no.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            An example of evolution as the origin of life would be to throw plastic, metal, rubber etc. into a barn and expecting a brand new automobile to assemble itself in a hundred, thousand or say a million years. This will never happen without an intelligent being doing the assembly , not to mention who made the material. You won’t find a automobile, what will happen is the material will erode, be blown away etc. Thus confirming science that everything in the universe goes from order to chaos. So intelligence had to create the universe. Common sense and science

          • anoman

            This is a great narrative showcasing your misunderstanding of how evolution works, but it doesn’t actually make evolution any less true.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Nice pics, just not reality. No fossil records support this, rather the fossil record supports Biblical claims that God made each after their own kind. They also support biblical account of world wide flood with mass graves of whole animal buried together. We also have fish fossils on the highest mountains in the world. How did they get their?

          • Paul MacKay

            Another example of evolution is if you throw a bucket of milk under your porch for a month in the summer new life will emerge. No tinkering required. All the things you described are inanimate objects. Their chemical compositions will indeed change if left alone for a hundred years. Have you never heard of rust or decay?

          • quinton holzbaugh

            What is that . Makes no sense. Do you not understand what I am saying. Life is way too complicated for evolution. It is just impossible, like the example I gave. If you think that everything in this world is by chance, then I don;t know what is to tell you. Lets see we just happen to have food to eat, water to drink, eyes to see, ears to hear , taste buds, digestive system, reproductive organs( Male and female), sun light , oxygen,intelligence, hair to cover our heads, skin to protect our bodies, hands to do what we need to, feet and legs to walk. If you took away just your thumb, we wouldn’t be able to do alot of things. Omg I could go on forever even before we get to the animal kingdom. You guys have more faith then me. Easy for me to see God’s hand on this world, quit the imagination to believe it all magically appeared without an intelligent Creator. Nuts

          • anoman

            No it isn’t “too complicated” for evolution. I love how you point out all the “wonders” and positive aspects of life as though somehow that’s proof of order, but everything you described is a development of our evolutionary past for survival. How about all the bad design? A good designer would have made our back bone in the middle of our back, not the back of it, which is why we all have so much back pain so frequently. Or how about our eyes? There are FAR better ones in the animal kingdom than ours, ours are pretty mediocre and so many of us end up needing glasses. And then why on earth did God put an entertainment complex (men’s G spot) right smack in a sewage system?

            You’re arguing from a perspective of “what seems”, but science has shown time and time again that what SEEMS to be the case at first glance isn’t really that way at all. It LOOKS like the sun is going around us, but instead we are going around the sun…it even SEEMS like we are perfectly still and yet we are moving at a tremendous orbiting speed. You see what you want to see. No one said anything “magically” appeared…there are powerful laws of nature at work.

            We had to work to survive as a species, this planet was clearly not made for us. Cancer and viruses and auto immune diseases abound…

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Well read the bible then. Do I have to explain everything to you. You seen to know what it says, so do I have to explain the reason’s for sickness, death etc. We do not live in a perfect world anymore, but it will be restored. This has nothing to do with evolution, but with the fall of mankind. You keep side tracking the issue’s. It is too complicated for evolution. So your so smart, where did everything come from. Where did food evolve from, the air, the water, the tree, the stars, fire , rocks. the sun, moon.

          • anoman

            I love how you keep asking questions even though you know the answers.

          • Paul MacKay

            I’ll note you cite the Bible as proof of the existence of God. Ummm…that’s a book. Written by men. It’s no more proof of God then a Stephen King book is proof of Werewolfs. You are aware that the Bible today is pretty much a completely different book then the bible someone would have read 600 years ago right? Or even the old book, which is in parts supposed to be a word for word copy of the Torah has very little in common with the Torah in many places. Meaning the word of “god” was changed by man.

            But live your life in a manner that makes you happy. As Oliver Wendell Holmes said “your right to swing your fist ends where another mans nose begins.” Please remember that if you ever should go to the ballet box and vote for something because it’s biblical law.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            I will and that’s your opinion. Many historical scholars disagree with you. Like I told the other 2 on here. We shall see. We could debate untill the end of time and not agree. More manuscripts for the authenicity of the Word of God than any other piece of literature in history. Yet your more willing to believe them than the bible. I disagree with the bible being changed and being written by men. Will ljust end it here, but your beliefs are harder to believe than mine. Just read what world renown atheists or shall I say former one , had to say about his life long journey for truth about God and evolution(Anthony Flew). But I guess you have done more research than him and are way smarter. Good luck

          • Paul MacKay

            If your premise begins and ends with the bible having any validity as being the word of God then I suppose it’s possible to find some truth. The records of the bible date back some few thousand years, and that’s great! It proves that some man at some point wrote down the tribal stories of what their culture claims is the word of God. It does nothing to prove the existence of nor the validity of the Abrahamic god. There’s also commonality in cultures not rooted in the flood spoken of in the bible. The story of Jesus is almost a carbon copy of the Egyptian god Horus.

            Just because a story is old doesn’t make it true. And we’ll just agree to disagree. My “belief” is that there likely was some sort of undefined higher power that was there before the big bang. Because there must have been something. To say how and when creation happened is a bit of a leap of logic and faith. If the defence is “because it’s in the bible!” well then you’re discounting all of human history that occurred outside of the middle east or before 5775 years ago. And I hate to tell you, but the world if billions of years old. You have to deny proven facts to think otherwise but I can no more convince you of that then I can a member of ISIS that what they are up to is evil.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            No one has seen or heard from these false teachers of false religions after they die. People encounter the Risen Christ every day. So we are either all crazy people for say the last 2 thousands years or maybe we are sane and telling the truth. People from all walks of life and countries all over the world have testimonies. So Paul you can believe we are nuts or maybe we are not.

          • Paul MacKay

            No one has heard of these religions after they die? Hinduism predates Christ by 1750 years and still has a billion followers. Judaism obviously predates Christianity, your messiah himself followed that faith as you well know, Confusanism predates the Christian faith as well. To say nothing of the various theories that have been lost in the sands of time.

            When you get down to it, Christianity as it is practiced today is a younger religion then Islam. Modern Christianity is rooted in the philosophy of a 15th century Germanic monk.

            So to say the current Christian belief system is 2000 years old is a stretch. The book of Revelations so popular with the fire and brimstone set wasn’t considered to be biblical canon until the 4th century. How odd is it that the book that supposedly foretells the end of times was patched on to the “unchanging word of god” several centuries after the fact.

            I’ll not deny you or anyone else your faith and whatever gives you comfort however if that faith gets in the way of fact based science and the quest for further understanding then it becomes a societal problem. And you can’t deny that people are fighting tooth and nail to not have scientific theory taught in schools. Which is quite insane.

            But hey, Copernicus was branded a heretic. Cecco d’Ascoli was burned alive for daring to suggest he could calculate past days by reading the earth’s movements among the stars. Christians have a long recorded history of being against any science that may disprove the notion that the planet was created in six days 5775 years ago.

            Now it’s been empirically proven that the planet is billions of years old the theories start to become more and more bizarre. Believe as you will but there’s no reason faith and science can’t go hand in hand to an extent. As long as one is willing to believe that the bible is a bunch of parables and not to be taken literally.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            I do agree with you that the earth has been around more than 6000 years, but not mankind. Not gonna go into details but The book of Genesis is worded in a way that suggests that is correct

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Also, where do think most of the educational systems in America came from? They never use to teach evolution in the educational system. Around 1900 , about 80 percent of the universities where church based. They started colleges like Harvard to educate people for the ministry. How America has changed.

          • anoman

            It’s really not too hard to imagine why Christianity might be wrong along with all of the other major religions with millions of fathers claiming to also have it figured out.

            Imagine this: Genomic evidence confirms that there couldn’t have been a literal Adam and Eve, therefore no garden, no talking snake and no sin. If there’s no such thing as sin then there’s no need for a savior.

            It’s that simple really.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Funny. Just incorrect. Your grasping at straws. Ya sure looks like sin doesn’t exist. The human heart has sin nature at birth. Just watch any 3 year old child for a day. We don’t have to teach people to be they way they are. On the contrary how many millions of lives have been changed by this Jesus who doesn’t exist? Your talking areas you know nothing about. Jesus isn’t religion, He is Creator of the universe. You can’t understand Gospel and Word of God , without Person of the Holy Spirit. He is called the Spirit of Truth. You greatly error in your thinking. The stuff we are talking about , you have to be spiritually alive to see. Just keep arguing, we know the Truth. It’s kinda like having a conversation with a baby in his or hers momma’s womb and trying to explain the natural world.

          • anoman

            It’s not funny, it’s reality and it’s glaring you right in the face. Think about it, if there was no Adam and Eve (and there was not, i assure you) then there’s no sin… You don’t need to be Christian to have morals…if we went by the Bible women would have to be silent in church and wear a head covering and owning slaves would be perfectly okay…

          • quinton holzbaugh

            no Adam and Eve, just blob and blobette.

          • anoman

            That’s not evidence.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            You make no sense at all. What are you talking about. Get something concrete and then we can have a debate. Your wrong and I guess you will just have to find out when He comes back. Gonna be a sad day for people like you. Its not a matter of evidence, you just chose not to believe.

          • anoman

            Ah yes, such a SAD day for people like me. You keep betting on your eternity with your skydaddy, but it won’t make it any more real.

          • anoman

            Science is not a philosophical answer to a question where it could get it “right” or “wrong”, it’s just a process of trying to find out what’s true and real…I’m sure the invention of television wasn’t a perfect process. During that process MANY mistakes and errors will be made but eventually you edge closer to the truth with more research. Science is willing to change based on new evidence. Is your religion willing to change based on new evidence?

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Prove the bible wrong. People have tried and failed . They even devoted their life to destroying it. The bible is Truth with a capitol T. Science is sometimes wrong, because people are not perfect and all knowing like Allmight God. They keep saying the bible isn;t true because of this and that and evidence keeps proving their theories wrong. We can debate all day, but I guess we will find out. For your sake, you better be right, but I know your not.

          • anoman

            Do you know what day God supposedly created the sun? The writers of the Bible knew that we were orbiting the sun they never would have wrote such a ridiculous account that has no bearing with reality.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Dude, what are you talking about. What does that have to do with anything. That proves or affects nothing.

          • anoman

            If you weren’t so blinded by wanting to believe what you want to believe you’d realize how stupid it is that the Biblical account says the sun and moon were created on the 4th day. D’oh, it is totally illogical.

          • Kelly Prince

            While I did watch COSMOS I found nothing in it to in anyway disprove God, if anything it confirmed my beliefs. I’m sorry you took something different out of it. Being insulting and mocking others belief’s then saying you’re always encouraging discussion and opening of ideas shows exactly how close minded you really are. It’s very clear you don’t want to have a real discussion, just mockery of something you don’t understand. Have a nice day and hopefully one day you’ll stop with the childish antics.

          • anoman

            There’s no such thing as “disproving” God. There will always be room for “God” if you want because it’s an unfalsifiable concept, but if you want the claim that “there is a God” to hold any water then you have to present evidence and define it. If I wanted to claim that leprechauns do exist then the burden of proof is on me — it’s the same thing. I’m urging everyone to stop believing in fairytales for adults. Why do people think that when they are controverted that it somehow equates to an “attack on faith”? Is facing the reality that people die tragic deaths an attack on “life”? I see it as facing reality.

            I’d love to have a real discussion, but I doubt you would, because you might have to face some inconvenient thoughts about our actual place in this world.

          • yardoe

            So anoman, just how did you get here? The big boom? Even science has come to the conclusion that there is a supreme being. Get over yourself. It makes you look really stupid.

          • anoman

            First off, unlike you, I admit that I don’t have all the answers, and in science we’re okay with saying “I don’t know”, as well as acknowledging what we do know. We aren’t quite sure how life got started. We do have overwhelming evidence for evolution, which explains how “I got here” and there is great evidence for the big bang. And no, science hasn’t “come to the conclusion that there is a supreme being”, that’s the conclusion you have come to because it’s something you want to be true, despite no evidence. Science doesn’t care about our wants or desires, it just keeps looking for the truth, it’s the constant search for truth. If imagining an even more complex “God” who can’t be explained is the only conceivably rational answer for a complex universe, then it’s clear you haven’t really contemplated the whole matter.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            If there is evidence for evolution, where is one fossil that shows a species evolving from one species to another. They do not exist. Species only evolve thru the process known as micro evolution , that is within their own kind. For Macro evolution to be true as the origin of life, you need species evolving from one kind to another. Darwin said the fossil records would confirm or disprove his beliefs. They disproved it so far as we have not found one, outside of 4 or 5 hoaxes. There should be trillions of them.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Many of the great scientists in history have been creationists.

          • anoman

            Yes they do, they are EVERYWHERE. And there is no distinction between “Macro” and “Micro” evolution…one is your hair growing right now, the other is when you realize you need a hair cut. Just because you can’t observe macroevolution doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Even if we didn’t have ANY fossil record whatsoever we would still be able to know that evolution is real just from unraveling the genome. The same DNA evidence used in a criminal investigation to bring justice to a criminal, or to find out who is the father or mother of a child is the VERY SAME evidence by we can see our connection with the rest of the aimal kingdom.

            You simply don’t understand evolution. I used to not either until i finally decided to find out how it actually works.

          • winkda1

            1.5% of dna is what keeps us from living in trees and picking lice off each other? Well if dna explained it all, then there should be no question in the existence of God,no question of what in that 1.5% allowed us to evolve to the point of even a spoken language! Haven’t heard it anoman,have you? Maybe now that you and your scientists’ have found out,” how it actually works”can you let the rest of us in on it?

          • anoman

            So many different animals have evolved traits far beyond our abilities. Look at flight, for instance. Our eyes are terrible compared to so many in the animal kingdom, and that’s because they were initially evolved for water, but evolution couldn’t start over, it had to work with what it had.

            There are a lot of mysteries surrounding our evolution and the rapid development of our brains. So what would you have me to, sit here and pretend like your religion would that science has got it all figured out, or would you prefer the intellectually honest route of “we haven’t gotten it all figured out yet”?

            A part of me tells me, you really aren’t interested in answers, just answers that already appease the confirmation bias you’re looking for.

            Science approaches questions different than religion does. Religion pretends to have all the answers, science is willing to change based on new information.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            They are not everywhere. Who have you been listening too. There are no intermediate species required by Macro evolution. Those 2 are of the same species. 2 can breed 2 different species of dogs . Say a hound dog and poodle and get a hybrid dog. Try breeding a dog and a fish. A dog and bird. That is micro evolution, where you have variations within species. We know God loves variety, just look around you.

          • anoman

            I’m so glad you’re in touch with God’s emotions and what he loves.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Honda Accord and Honda Civics share the majority of parts, but I have never seen a Accord evolve into a Civic. What that proves is that they have a common designer, just like Honda.

          • Eric

            Fairly certain cars aren’t living creatures…

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Eric, that is just dumb. The point is just because you have similiar parts doesn’t mean something evolved, but that they have a common designer.

          • Eric

            Never mind the fact that multiple people design the same car.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Lol. You lack understanding. Evolution as the origin of life is one of the most comical ideas of man in all of history. If you can’t figure that out, just open your eyes and look around you. Sit down close all your books on evolution and ask God to enlighten you to the Truth.Whether a group of engineers at honda or one engineer at honda designed both models is irrelevant. The God head is one God with 3 persons on a side note. The point is that just because an ape and a human have many of the same parts does not mean evolution but a common designer.

          • Eric

            Actually, the most comical ideas of man are coming from your blabbering at the moment.

            You’re either a decent troll or a very dumb person.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Sorry , I thought this was an article by a christian man. A troll would be someone like a atheist going to a christian site and changing the topic and going off on their beliefs. I guess your a very smart person. Hail to your creator, would you like me too name him campell or prego or lipton? At aleast I don’t go on sites about evolution and pretending to be one of them. Believe what you want. All I can say is we will see who is right someday.

          • Eric

            I don’t remember ever saying the atheist in question wasn’t being a troll, but with even him / her being a troll, you’re still the worst one here.

            You are the one who equated evolution “not being true” with cars, remember? That’s a pretty stupid thing to say, regardless of what your faith may be.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Do us both a favor and quit replying to my posts. As I recall your the one following me, not the other way around. I came on here to read an article about Islam. Your fellow Evolutionist is the one who starting slaming christians and our faith. I was defending my faith. You called me the troll. Get it straight, I said nothing to you or went to none of the web pages you endorse. As far as me comparing cars to evolution, that is absurd. What I did was give an analogy as to how absurd it is for complex life to assemble itself without intelligence. It would be infinitely easier for that to happen, than for what you believe to be to happen by chance. So you don’t agree with the bible and christianity, than quit trolling christian sites. I think what you believe is dumb and you think likewise to my beliefs, so go somewhere else and take your fellow trolls with you.

          • Eric

            Why should I quit replying to your posts? Can you not handle simple discussion? Are you so weak in your faith that you can only “defend it” when others do not reply to you? You did come here to read an article about Islam, but you made a post about evolution, which has nothing to do with the article at all. You do realize that your first post on this article was REPLYING to someone else… right? You followed someone else, and it had nothing to do with the article about Islam, which you “came to read”.

            No, what’s “absurd” about your (terrible) analogy is that you tried to equate a completely man made thing (read: not life), called a car, with a complex living thing (read: not a car). “Honda Accord and Honda Civic share many of the same parts, but I’ve never seen an Accord evolve into a Civic.” Right… because they’re cars… not living things. Never mind the fact that cars HAVE actually evolved in their design as humans got BETTER at designing them. Or… do you not know that Model Ts really aren’t in high usage anymore?

            No, I agree with the Bible and Christianity just fine. What your wasted grey matter can’t seem to even PRETEND to fathom is that God, in his infinite wisdom and ability (unlike yours) could have created one set of creatures, threw it out, created another, threw it out, etc, etc.

            It makes little sense, scientifically or spiritually, for so many animals on this planet to be so similar, without bringing evolution into the equation. It also makes little sense, spiritually, for God to create mankind in his image yet be so fragile. Period. It makes zero sense for, being made in God’s image, for us to have eyes that are so terrible compared to other species, ears that are so terrible compared to other species, spines that are in terrible locations, bones that can break easily, terrible lung capacity, etc, etc.

            Evolution, especially if you bring theism into the discussion, does not / is not “random chance” if you even have the faintest understanding of the idea that “God has a plan”. God can, quite easily, have a plan set forth that perhaps understanding evolution, science AND theism can bring us all closer to knowing God because we can potentially know far more about him in the future.

            I don’t think your beliefs are dumb, YOU though, you are dumb.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Once again you are side tracking and distorting your reply’s. First off as far as the Civic and Accord go, the point was in reference to the pics by your fellow evolutionists with a pic of a human baby and I believe it was a chimp. He said since they have many similiar parts, that evolution is the answer. My response with the automobile analogy is that designers often use many of the same parts for different design’s. You calling anyone dumb is funny. You need to examine yourself. You can;t even read a post and understand any kind of argument.You lack logic and common sense is why I asked you to quit sending me reply’s . A chimp ( your ancestor) would be a better debate. You say your a christian and have no problem with the bible, yet you discard God’s creation account where he said he created each animal after their kind. He said he created man from the dust of the earth not chimps. Your no more christian than Obama, yet you like to say you are when it suites your agenda. You also think you know more than He does in the way he designed certain features for different creatures. The answer to unperfect creation is the fall of man. So what part of the bible do you actually believe? You support these people who come on here unprovoked and trash the Savior and His people and then turn around and say that is what you believe. Really, makes zero sense. I didn’t bring up this debate, your buddy did. Just go back and see when he started and what he said. Your both idiots. So why respond to me , when I think your an idiot and don’t have a clue at what your talking about. Go read some literature by someone like Flu who spent his whole life defending what you believe and came to the conclusion it was just not possible. At least he was humble enough and smart enough to change his views after looking at the science that you seem to think contracts my views. Dumb

          • Eric

            Once again, you’re a Grade A idiot.

            Your “point” about the cars is idiotic… because they are cars. Man made. No life. No way they can change without outside help. Multiple designers. Multiple ways multiple people can make them different. Your analogy fails, miserably, because they are inanimate objects. Period. It doesn’t matter if they have similar parts. It doesn’t matter what the other person said in terms of similar parts means evolution is the answer. You’re trying to compare INANIMATE OBJECTS to living things. That is why you’re an idiot and that is why your analogy is idiotic.

            It’s hilarious you keep tagging others as “idiots” when you have no grasp of simple concepts of “your” and “you’re” yet you think you’re intelligent enough to debate something as deep and intellectual as evolution, let alone faith.

            I don’t “discard” God’s creation account at all, but what I do is understand that we don’t always interpret the Bible correctly, nor do we always understand it, and that’s a proven fact. Hundreds of years ago everything was answered with “it’s His will” if no one knew what something was. Hundreds of years ago (and even today) people believed that the Earth and the universe is only 6,000 years old. That’s completely impossible based on everything we know about how light travels. Are you seriously suggesting that not only evolution is wrong, but so is astronomy? Are you seriously suggesting that not only is evolution wrong, but so is the concept of space and time?

            Really?

            Really?

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Some things in the bible you can interpret differently , the creation account is pretty clear. As for the analogy , it is not mine. But I understood what the person was saying when they made. The person who made it is respected scholar and doubt you hold nothing as far as intelligence to this man. Your missing the point of the analogy, just like another analogy that I quoted about cars. I can give you one about dropping number papers out of an airplane in regard to things like Dna, but it would be outside your ability to understand. Jesus use to tell parables to explain the Kingdom of God, because people just couldn’t get it. If He were to tell you one today, you would be calling Him an idiot. Just a waste of time, because your set on your views and can’t handle the Truth. Enough about what I believe, you seem to think your so smart, so why don’t you start from the beginning and tell me how all this got here. Please don’t use generic terms. Their are proven laws of science that contradict the possibilities of Macro evolution as the Origin of life. Do you think Anthony flew is an idiot too? He said that the more we know about science, the more it points to intelligent design.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Genesis 1:21 God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves according to their kind and every winged bird according to their kind. 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds- livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds. And it was so Gen 1:26 Let Us make man in our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth. Gen 1:27 Made them male and female. Sorry I don’t see a hint of evolution here. No chemical soup bowl. And this is what we observe today. They keep producing after their kind.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Disorder can never produce order through any kind of random process

          • Eric

            Once again, you really are completely wasting the grey matter that God gave you.

            I’m not missing the point of the analogy in the least because a faulty analogy has no point… because it’s faulty.

            You’re so dense I’m surprised you haven’t caused a pandemic of stupid around you that would be broadcasted on the news.

            I’m not, in any form, saying evolution is the only answer (unlike you who is stating creation is the only answer). Use whatever randomized airplane DNA analogy you want (I already know that one, by the way), it doesn’t do a thing to diffuse my point. This is my point:

            Science (evolution) and theology (creationism) do not need to be, nor are they logically, mutually exclusive.

            “Random papers…” is meaningless you moron, it’s a meaningless analogy when I am saying God created beings and we, as insignificant humans, are learning more about said creation through the idea of evolution.

            In terms simple enough for you to understand:

            God wants us to learn more about him so our relationship with him can be stronger. We as humans are often attracted to a carrot on a stick. Guess what evolution is?

          • quinton holzbaugh

            That’s all Eric. I disagree, its faulty in your mind. You have no defense for anything other than the default that people are stupid or wasting grey matter. So let me ask you this. If a chimp and a human have 90 percent of the same parts , is it because of evolution or is it possible that they have a common designer? You said you believed the bible and you don’t discard the creation account. So tell me where evolution is anywhere in the creation account. You also have no response to the world renown atheist who because of his life study of science admitted evolution was impossible and that intelligent design was the only possible explanation. So give me something of substance beside 3rd grade name calling how I am wasting the brain God gave me. I qouted to you God’s creation account. So you can;t have it both ways. Either you need to say you don;t believe the bible or macro evolution.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            You have nothing of substance to say to back up your beliefs. I asked you to explain to me actually how we got our origins and you have no response. All you can do is say your wrong and you have nothing to refute it with. Explain the process. Something

          • anoman

            Let’s leave out the false premise of using a non-living creature. Just the fact that you think evolution would cause an Accord to evolve into a Civic is not how evolution works. It’s equivalent to you telling me that an elephant can’t turn into a dog…OF COURSE IT CAN’T. You don’t understand how evolution works so it’s easy for it to not make sense in your mind. Evolution isn’t about certain animals we see today evolving into other animals we also see today, what we are seeing is a bunch of animals that all followed a completely different evolutionary course and developed traits independently suited for their particular environment. We are all the survivors and it’s a giant tree.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Wow didn’t realize how smart you are. This may be the end of Christianity as we know it. So many great proofs and responses. I would like to thank the great bowl of chemical soup for you and your friends. Anthony Flew would be turning over in his grave. He can rest in peace now, knowing that he didn’t waste most of his life on nonsense and that he must have been brain damaged to have changed his mind latter in life. Congrats

          • yardoe

            LOL LOL Oh you of so many words so you think you look intelligent. Evolution? Then you do believe in the big boom. I’ll pray for you anoman,

          • W. Scott Smith

            People from the philosophical framework that is atheism will never acknowledge a creator…goes against their arrogant assurance that such a thing as creator or god just can’t exist. In the end, their belief is no more valid than a religious person’s belief as far as being provable.

          • anoman

            WRONG. In science we have to be open to being wrong. It’s based on evidence, truth, reality, integrity, intellectual honesty. If you want to postulate a deity than prove their existence. You have no problem with acknowledging that Zeus and Thor and Poseidon and Ra are probably not real… By the same rational basis by which you dismiss all other gods but the one you think is real, is the very same basis by which i discount yours as well.

          • frgough

            Excellent. Your first assignment is to list all the problems with the theory of evolution with a mind open to the possibility the entire theory is wrong.

          • anoman

            Scientists have tried doing that for decades, but most finally stopped after noticing that it underpins all of biology and advancement in medicine. In fact, nothing would make any sense if evolution weren’t true.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Actually everything makes sense without evolution. Just read the Book of life. Evolution answers nothing. Evolution is a joke. I’m done trying to teach you the Truth. We will just see. You make all your claims, but I know the Truth, so good luck with your theories, they won’t do you any good when He comes back.

          • Eric

            From reading all your replies, and as someone who believes in Christ myself, you’re actually the saddest one here.

            You ever think, possibly even pretend to fathom, that God is / was / will be the one who made evolution happen? You do realize science and religion are not mutually exclusive, yes?

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Because that’s not what His Word teaches. What is sad is people who say they believe in Christ but are ignorant of His Word or pick and choose what parts they want to believe. Are you saved? Because God gives us the Holy Spirit and He will not teach you evolution. Your just upset because your little evolution theories are not correct.

          • Eric

            You’re beyond any sort of actual discussion. If you truly think the way you’re typing, I’m sorry that God did not bestow upon you a better mind, though you seem to be wasting what he has given you.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Too funny, that fact is when you have been redeemed you think differently than unredeemed people. Well read the book of Romans and see what kind of mind God has given you and your friends on here. I know I am right. Doesn’t take a Harvard grad or a rocket science to figure it out. Just common sense.

          • Eric

            Read Romans.

            You’re still wasting the brain God gave you.

          • anoman

            “I know I’m right”

            Ahh, the ignorance of certainty.

          • anoman

            How do you know the Bible is the Word of God? Do you believe it or do you have verification for it? If so, what is this verification that you’re privy to? Clearly you have some SPECIAL insight none of use have access to!

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Prophecy separates the Bible from the man made religions. God says He is the only one who knows the future. The Bible is 100 percent accurate on the future.

          • anoman

            Is that why it got so many prophecies dead wrong and unfulfilled? God couldn’t even find Adam in the garden but he’s supposed to know everything and be omnipotent and omniscient and omnipresent?

          • puglianana

            Anoman – you sound like a very bitter person. I don’t agree with you at all. I have listen to other (well known) atheists debate with famous Christians and the atheists never win. The Bible says that a man that says there is no God, is a “FOOL”.

          • anoman

            Nah I’m not bitter at all, but it is amusing watching people like you lose your mind after learning that Santa For Adults isn’t real.

          • puglianana

            You are so delusional – You just ruin your case that God doesn’t exist by saying you don’t have to see something to believe in it. It is called Faith. You are the one who has lost their mind. One day you will bow and cry out to God for mercy and HE will say, I never knew you, He will cast you into hell and you will burn forever. You know what, that is sad, because of your foolish mentality. You sir are a very hollow and without any sense at all. God is in Heaven laughing, knowing your day is coming and at your foolishness.

          • anoman

            Delusional? lol, the irony!

          • Doug McKinney

            HaHaHa. But Where did the gases for the “big bang come from? Who made the earth and stars for all this ahh oh junk to rest on? The ah Oh like Humans, Plants and animals? Why are Humans the controlling species instead of whales or Elephants? They are much larger and fairly intelligent! Did YOU REALLY evolve from an ape? Then if Apes evolve why are there STILL APES? If it was all a big bang then how did the millions of different strands of DNA come about? IF it was a big bang why don’t you share DNA with monkeys? IF ALL life came from the water why can’t I go underwater and re-form my “gills” and breath like so called ancestors. So when science quits dodging the REAL issues maybe we can have a discussion, Until then I can only watch you squirm with your fantasy. When Atheists acquire a little “common sense” we MAY be able to hold discussion. Until that time I can only deem you UN-equipped to hold discussions that require actual thought and reason. Good – day

          • anoman

            I love all your questions! But you’re not asking them because you actually want answers, you’re asking them rhetorically so that you can pretend you have other ‘answers” that you couldn’t possibly have.

            Real scientists ask those questions as well, and they asked many of them in the past too. But they want real answers, you’re interested in whatever answer you want to be true, but that’s not how knowledge happens! It happens through intellectual honesty, something you’re not willing to have.

          • Lee Alfred Herzog

            Of all that one question if you have the answers. Who is God’s God where did he come from nnhowndidnhe come into exsistance. I go by my life with what can be proven. Science has proven God is not needed to have a universe. Gods are just ideas of man and hlwhat the world is.

          • anoman

            This is his argument at its core:

          • Paul MacKay

            Actually for the most part we do share DNA with baboons. It’s only a 3% difference. Closer then tigers and cougars. Would you deny that those two animals are closely related genetically? To answer your question about gills and why you can’t reform them…well evolutionary change takes millions of years. It’s pretty easy to understand why you can’t grow them over the course of a single generation.

            In terms of what happened before the big bang, well that’s always going to be the question isn’t it. But that there probably was something before the big bang has very little to do with the theory that a carpenters son from Bethlahem was the son of god here to redeem us from sin does it?

          • winkda1

            All ancient civilizations have some story’s of being visited by “Gods” from the heavens,eerily similar is a return. I was baptized Catholic and believe in God,that is my faith. Freewill is instilled by God, (in my faith) and you are exercising yours. You may believe religion is an outdated concept that has been around since the beginning of time, and you may be right…But what if your wrong?
            /

          • anoman

            If I’m wrong then God will know that I used the brain he gave me and he’ll let me into heaven. But all the people who pretend to “know” God exists are just lying to themselves and will probably not be let into heaven.

          • winkda1

            So you are basing your whole argument on a meme,what would a scientist say about that? What would be your view on the ancients having similar stories? If you put so much faith in science,you know that before the break up of the continents all people lived on one continent. Now explain how existence of God evolved..or more so to fit your line of thinking,why the existence of God didn’t evolve?

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Your heart is the problem.

          • anoman

            Your unwillingness to employ intellectual honesty is your problem. You aren’t special, you aren’t “awake”, you aren’t “one of the few”, you aren’t enlightened, you aren’t an investigator, you just have internet access.

          • quinton holzbaugh

            Go to any uncivilized tribe or country. What do they do. They worship all kinds of gods. It is only the countries and people who have had this stuff taught to them , that believe this. God said he put eternity in the hearts of man. You have just been deceived by the educational system. Hardly anyone believed this until the late 1700’s and early 1800’s

          • anoman

            The more primitive and uneducated the society, the more religion. It’s because it is easier to make up a narrative in order to explain the complexity around us than to actually understand how it works through science education. The ancients “knew” that thunder and lightning just “HAD TO BE” Thor and Zeus, but we know now that it’s just a purely naturalistic process. Rain gods were required to explain rain, and when there was a drought, well, it must mean they are angry and need another sacrifice to be appeased.

            Religion is fading in the educated west while it is thriving in the third world, there’s a reason for that, it’s lack of education.

          • Tom Leist

            I do not believe in athiests, therefor they do not exist.

          • anoman

            Thanks for showcasing that believing something doesn’t make it true!

          • Michael Calderon

            Atheists and their arguments are always so dumb. “I dont need to prove my claims but you do” is basically what every atheist says. Who cares if you don’t believe in an afterlife. You can go about being pessimistic your whole life but some people like to have hope of an afterlife so why shut it down? You can’t disprove an afterlife anymore than anyone can prove it.

          • Paul MacKay

            Just for the record I’m not an atheist, agnostic is the proper term (and yes, there is a big difference) but I think the common atheist position is more accurately described as ” Scientific facts can be proven, God cannot.” . That’s actually quite a logical conclusion. There is no proof whatsoever that god exists. There is also no proof it doesn’t either. I’m of the position that there must have been something before the big bang. What it was, who really knows?

          • anoman

            Well that’s just called intellectual honesty right there…something these skydaddy lovers just don’t know how to employ.

          • bobfairlane

            “Why shut it down”? Because religious bigots use their hell fables to scare people into joining their cults, and enacting legislation to suit religious dogmatists, and installing your jesus barns and other garbage in our cities.

          • Lee Alfred Herzog

            As a straight atheist I’m fine with your view Michael but the only problem is when people force their religion onto others like gays are evil and the end of the world as we know it (Christian view). This is a country bound by no religion so let’s keep it that way n stop forcing bigot laws

          • puglianana

            You believe you need air to breathe, don’t you. You can’t see it, but, yet you believe in it. You make no sense. Anoman

          • anoman

            One doesn’t have to “see” something in order to verify its existence. That’s why science is so powerful, it’s a way to verify if something is real or not and not just an idea of something in our head. Science is a tool to keep us from fooling ourselves and each other.

          • Paul MacKay

            You also can’t see electrons without the aid of a powerful microscope. Yet they exist. The exact chemical composition of air has been proven. It’s :

            N2 — 78.084%, O2 — 20.9476%, Ar — 0.934%,CO2 — 0.0314%,Ne — 0.001818%,CH4 — 0.0002%,He — 0.000524%,Kr — 0.000114%, H2 — 0.00005%,Xe — 0.0000087%,O3 — 0.000007%, NO2 — 0.000002%, I2 — 0.000001%,CO — trace,NH3 — trace.

            Some things are too small to see.

        • Ray Sosebee

          You’re in for a very rude awakening!

          • anoman

            Aww. You didn’t get the memo. Science doesn’t care about your beliefs.

          • Doug McKinney

            As Christianity has no desire to witness any more of your fables. Most religions have joined you already and yall don’t even know it. They teach a false God and a Jesus that would have nothing to do with MOST of today’s “Christianity.” You just continue along with your worship of science and Satans other tools to deceive this world. As far a a surprise upon resurrection a LOT of people are going to be VERY surprised at what they encounter.
            But OF you continue your hatred of God and the Gospel you will receive the warmest welcome you can imagine. However it’s not as most prescribe today ( an everlasting burning of the body). You will be burned to ashes and be cast under the feet of TRUE believers.
            i notice you prescription makes fun of this worlds problems. So there is NO Child abuse? NO MURDER? NO TERRORISM?
            Well there is NO immortal soul either but that does not stop Christ from dealing with this world.

            So no Christ is not concerned with the narrow minded science because hey HE INVENTED SCIENCE as well as everything else!!

          • anoman

            Get off your computer, disconnect your internet, throw away your cell phone and stop going to the doctor and start praying, because trusting in science is “worshiping” it and we shouldn’t worship science!

          • Winston Null

            Of course you realize Jesus did not terrorize people with threats of hell? Dont you know that? People should apply their beliefs to themself and their own families.

          • chopper

            You mean science, the newest religion? How many scientists are pulling theories out of thin air like ” Global Warming” only to find out they are wrong? It is just new theories with different ways of testing them. Still only theories passed off as facts though. We won’t and can’t know until we are dead and gone….

          • anoman

            Science isn’t religion because it’s not a belief in something, it’s a system of finding out what’s true. It’s why you have internet right now, it’s why you have cars, cellphones, clean water, everything we have today is because of science, otherwise we’d still be in caves. Man-made “Global Warming” through emissions is a scientific fact, not a “conspiracy theory”, and it threatens our children.

            Please read this article, it showcases the problem with science denialism in our country. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-science-is-so-hard-to-believe/2015/02/12/2ff8f064-b0a0-11e4-886b-c22184f27c35_story.html

          • Eddie Fowler

            Science didn’t fix your blindness. Consider this … there a only 5 basic principles of science upon which all scientific disciplines are based on. They are: Time, Force, Action, Space, and Matter. Isn’t it interesting they are found in the 1st Book, 1st chapter, 1st verse of the Bible – In the beginning (time) GOD (force) created (action) the heavens (space), and the earth (matter).

          • Lee Alfred Herzog

            Eddie it’s amazing what you can pick and choose from a 2,000 year old mythology. If you want to take things one way I’ll go another.

            How can God plan your whole life out and know every second of it. Yet you have free will. Can’t have both

            The bible is Swiss cheese with all the holes. Religions are nothing but man made ideas from whmadam was young, dumb, and disn’t know what the sky was.

            We now know ideas of how life started and the universe. There is no God in the equasion that deals with reality just all the gods of mythology.

          • Christopher White

            humans go thru a period of calling.not “finding”. if you SHUT UP,you may hear. probably not,you have all the answers

          • fivefatcats

            I’ve never heard it put this way but I love it and am going to copy/paste your words.
            IMHO – to the rest of you: believe what you want – and I’ll do the same.

          • chopper

            Science is most certainly beliefs that are just that, beliefs until they can or cannot be proven. Evolution has not been proven, the missing link is still missing. In the 1970’s Jimmy Carter told us that we were going to be living on a frozen tundra by the year 2000, which is why my first car was a Ford Pinto. It is called cycles. You can also find proof that big oil was behind 9/11 if you look in the right place. I was taught of 9 planets in school. I took statistics in college, I know how numbers can be maneuvered into what it is that you want to prove. You believe in science, others believe in God. The fact of the matter is that we don’t know it all, and it is a debate that can never be won or lost because the answers are simply not there. You look at your statistics, or Star Trek if you believe that is what the future holds, and let others look at the Bible. Either way, we won’t know until it is too late to come back here to post the answer.

          • anoman

            Wrong. Science has predictive power which attests to the fact that it isn’t just a set of ideas with no bearing on reality. Science is simply the process of figuring out what is true, it creates airplanes, cellphones, internet, electricity, clean water…faith and prayer on the other hand do absolutely nothing except for give some comfort for the believer that they are going to inherit a wonderful paradise afterlife and eat yumyums for all eternity with skydaddy. It’s called: too good to be true. Ever heard of that? I don’t need to believe in evolution, I accept it. I don’t need to believe that the earth is round and that we go around the sun and that we aren’t the center of the universe, all I have to do is accept it. Believing something doesn’t make it true. There is no such thing as a “missing link” that needs to be found, and the fact that you think there is shows what a rudimentary understanding you have of evolution. YOU are a missing link, I’m a missing link, every animal alive today is one of the links to their evolutionary past. We’ve unraveled the genome, we are primates and we are one of the great apes, homo sapiens.

            You can scream, plug your ears and throw a tantrum, but it doesn’t change reality.

          • Lee Alfred Herzog

            Anoman I’m a atheist and I agree with everything you said minus the global warming dealio. Just by saying Washington post I know it is a far left idea. As a independent I enjoy seeing things on both sides that others cant. The earth is changing because it is changing. Unless you can cap off all the leaks around earth that are letting gasses out of the earths crust and things still change then we can talk. “Global warming” or now “climate change” is a money scam for all involved that’s it nothing more.

          • anoman

            Actually, if you look at the data you’ll change your mind. I was a denier too until I looked at the data and realized that a vast majority of scientists have no doubt that we are increasing global warming through man made emissions.

          • Christopher White

            “I was a denier too until I inserted my head up my ass and sukd real good on jugears purplelips junk’,said thejzzstain

          • Laura Gray

            Anoman, If I am wrong and there is nothing at the end, what have I lost? If you are wrong and there is Heaven and Hell at the end, what have you lost?

          • anoman

            That’s pascal’s wager, and it basically winds up meaning that we should worship every religion’s god “just in case” it’s right. To be honest, one doesn’t really have to be certain about whether or not there is a God to be an atheist, just that it compares quite nicely with the werewolf question.

          • Winston Null

            You know you just come off hateful anoman? That is the most unattractive thing about Atheists is how hollow they look and hateful they speak. I am sure you resent a society you feel infringes on your personal non belief. I am a Christian and believe it or not I do not want a Christian government or Nation. We are a beautiful nation and I have no doubt graced by the love of God. I truly believe in the principle of free will. You should not be made to feel as a lesser citizen for non belief and most of these Pius People are not more worthy of the bill of rights either

          • anoman

            Are you coming across hateful when you inform your children that Santa Claus isn’t real?

          • anoman

            And don’t forget your meds!

          • Winston Null

            And that pompous attitude is right on par with Muslims. Worry about setting your self on a the path of righteousness.

    • Minerva

      Ha ha, funny, smart butt. Glad to hear you are in the know, however, Reverend Graham is in no way BEHIND the rest of the country in his observations. He is in fact speaking to the millions of people who DON’T know what is actually happening right now because they are in deep denial. You may know all that he knows but the reverend has the clout that many people will listen to.

      • yardoe

        Minerva, do you have to be so hostile to other people. It really isn’t pretty.

        • William Rogan

          perhaps if jm didn’t present a post declaring Reverend Graham to be behind the times and stupid , then Minerva wouldn’t have given the response.

          • yardoe

            Oh, so just blame it on someone else? True liberal attitude. Blame the other guy. Now thats funny.

      • Don Pearce

        What makes you Think they will Listen to e Reverend? Most them are the Ones that put if in Office! They know exactly what is going on! They want it to Happen!

        • rsolid

          Don, Christians need a strong leader right now. Franklin is that man. We need someone to boldly speak for us as it is our teaching to resist evil but be Christ like in doing so. I do agree with you , it will do little to change things as most of Washington left God behind years ago !! These are troubling times for sure.

    • Leslie Napolitano

      I’m pretty sure he knew it long before you did. Don’t be disrespectful.

    • William Rogan

      @ jm , Reverend Graham never stated what President Obama believes in , he only responded to the question addressed. Reverend Graham is far more understanding of the ‘complexity’ of the POTUS than most of the general population.
      The President claims to be a Christian. However , that is ONLY for political purposes as to meet his ambitions. It’s beyond evident that our President doesn’t have a relationship with Jesus Christ as he hasn’t been raised in a Christian environment nor was he cultivated in one in J. Wright’s ‘church’.
      The President lacks the courage to face the obvious Truth.. His own father was wrong

  • Dev

    America by definition is not a Christian nation, it is a nation where all religions can be free. I appreciate what the president is doing, take religion out of the equation, they are still murderers that deserve to be punished.

    • Steve Revill

      You can’t take religion out of the equation when their assault is based on religion.

      • Dev

        Why can’t we simply look at them as murderers? Who cares why they do it, we just need to stop them.

        • Howard Wright

          Because their “religion” is the reason why and we don’t go after people because of their “faith”. Since we can’t stop them without getting to the core of the cause, we’ll just be in an endless quagmire. So has the world for over 14 centuries.

          • Dev

            I get what you’re saying but Islam isn’t going to just go away. I just think we spend too much time worrying why we are at war with these terrorists and not enough time hunting them down and stoping them. America has the power to destoy these people, why can’t we use it?

        • yardoe

          Because they are here and growing in population right here in the USA. It is a cancer that must be cut out.

    • ray

      Except the fact that this equation of yours is formulated by religion. Without Islam this “equation” (reads problem) seizes to exist.

    • James Berry

      I am by no means a religious person. I dislike it when people try to define the U.S. by a religion, or for that matter, any country. It would be almost impossible to have a country of any size be populated by a willing citizenship that follows one religion.

      That said, religion can not be taken out of the equation, because those doing the killing are making it the focal point. When someone kills in the name of a god, then that can not be whitewashed.

      • anoman

        Religion is the problem. It can be mild or it can be extreme, but make no mistake, it’s a cancer of the mind. It makes people feel “special”, “important” and privy to some imaginary information no one else has. People will even die for their ridiculous “beliefs” because it makes them feel like they are legitimizing it.

    • woooyb

      that is why we are close to the end i would say. just my opinion. im ready to go are you?

      • anoman

        When do you plan on heading off to the big nothing?

        • yardoe

          I think you are afraid of believers, otherwise you would have nothing to say. Where there is hate there is pain underneath….hope you heal soon.

          • anoman

            I think you are afraid of unbelievers, otherwise you would have nothing to say. Where there is hate there is pain underneath….hope you heal soon.

  • Vince Stagbaugh

    No doubt Obama has been given promises by wealthy, powerful Muslms in the Middle East that if he facilitates the rise the of Islam within American borders that he will be set for life, with his own island, unlimited funds and security.

    • Judylynn

      He’s looking forward to the 72 virgins, I say, I hope he sees them very soon !

      • cassie1655

        Yes, but for NObama, those 72 virgins would all be men!

        • GuyBB

          Who ever promised them HUMAN virgins?
          Sheep, pigs, or dogs would most certainly be an ironic twist of their twisted faith. 🙂

          • yardoe

            I vote for the pigs.

    • Marianne

      I think you’re right, he’s in it for the rewards that he’ll get I don’t think he’s thinking of Virgins and he wants his own golf course on top of everything else they give hm…

  • Howard Wright

    Worse than we thought. I knew all this in 2007 when I READ HIS BOOKS! It’s not like he’s even covered it up, but people were/are just too much in denial or too stupid to see the obvious.

    • Jane Dunn

      I call him a quranpig there going to hit us keep your guns close … truthandaction.org..look see

    • ConservativeBabyKL

      I saw it as well in 07/08 and have been screaming and yelling at family friends and strangers since . We live amongst IDIOT collaborators.

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  • lakefire

    For all accounts the flag of Islam does fly over the White House, why can people not see that????

  • ross mcglockness

    he forgot the part about obama being an ignorant FKG DCK, too.

  • Patricia

    Many of us who have read his books and knew who his mentors were knew this in the beginning. Also, a brave and patriotic man, Mr. Dinesh D’Souza has brought the facts about him out and made them public in his two books,and movies.” 2016: Obama’s America” and “America: Imagine a World Without Her.” I recommend both of these to all thinking Americans who are wondering what is happening to our homeland.

  • Random

    This president is a complete idiot

  • Cedric Ian Anthony

    Those maps you see where Christians are highly or even lethally persecuted.. they have never had U.S.A as having a problem.. perhaps its time we wake up and smell the Ovomit and realize that it is starting to happen.

  • Otter58701

    So impeach him NOW!

  • Judy Kirkham-Beville

    As long as the citizens can defend themselves, we will.

  • Dean

    Sadly, all that is needed to stop him is to file articles of impeachment – he would be forced to present his birth certificate and if proven no eligible to be president, then every action is voided and he and all of his appointees are dismissed. Biden would not be eligible to assume office as he is guilty of treason by supporting someone who is inelligible. If he’s legitimate, he wouldn’t be hiding this information and he hasn’t told the truth yet. Now, who can we find in the senate to file impeachment articles that has balls…. speaking of balls, if we could get him a blow job we would have no problem impeaching him

  • no_figment

    Proverbs 22:6 Raise up a child in the way he should go . . .

    • William Rogan

      Exactly right . That’s the same verse which came to mind when the President first took office and showed a ton of partiality to islam while downing Christianity. The early learning years of his life have influenced his train of thought and beliefs as an adult. But it’s no excuse as the President won’t open his eyes and ears to the overwhelming Truth which is right before him. Thus, he coddles islam.
      Christianity is just something to use for his political ambitions. There’s no club membership in Jesus Christ for just wearing a cross or hanging out with the Reverend Wrights of this world.

      • no_figment

        This was my feeling from the moment I first began to understand how little he was saying that spoke to what it means to be an American. When he spoke of “fundamentally changing America,” and the crowds began to chant the “Yes, we can!” I harkened back to listening to the radio in the 1940’s.

  • bobfairlane

    The “christian nation” crap is just the white-jew version of jihad.

  • Jim Robinson

    All one has to remember is “we will fundamentally change this country”.

  • Jim Machen

    Its about time a Christian Leader spoke out with the Truth. Obama needs to be Impeached Immediately. I for one am tired of his buying time for our enemy to gain ground, build the Bomb, and infiltrate our country further. Lookout!!! Be prepared. The End is near. The only answer is Jesus Christ.

  • robin

    Just like before WWII nobody was paying any attention to what Hitler was doing, and so it is now. There is no way to get the blind to see, only in hind sight, and then they will try an rewrite history. When the Christians are all gone, and they will be, the Bible tells use what will happen. See if science get that right.

  • phil

    anoman, is lost and can not posssibly see anything Godly. Don’t try and talk to him, he is blind to the truth. The Bible tells us not to throw your pearls to the swine to trample. He will receive his judgement. It is amazing to watch these worldly people beileve all the lies that are being fed to them, while refusing to believe the logical and obvious. Amazing! They are ignorant as the Bible says, “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools”.

  • joão cezar

    The Truth shall set you free…

  • Lee Alfred Herzog

    He is a grade A socialist. Spread the wealth bring in the poor under educated not so smart people in masses and give them money. This man is sick to the core. Good article only thing I have to say is yes this is not a Christian nation. Never was never will be. This is a country bound by no religion and to say it’s a ChristIan country just goes to show ignorance is alive n well.

    This is a country free from the enslavement of a mythology like Judaism Christianity and islam.

  • Buypass

    The Democrat party is 100% behind BO. So what does that tell us about them?
    A few are allowed off the reservation to cover their butt, then it’s lockstep to
    tyranny again.

  • Tom Teters

    Speak the word Reverend !! Praise Be

  • Doug Indeap

    DeWitt repeats the lie oft-heard in the conservative blogosphere. President Obama did not, as he asserts, declare that America is not a Christian nation. Rather, he stated that whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation. Big difference.

    Moreover, contrary to Graham’s gripe, President Obama has explained why he rejects the shortsighted impulse when fighting these terrorists to also unnecessarily treat an entire religion and hundreds of millions of its adherents as our enemies just like the terrorists. That would serve, if anything, only to tighten any ties between Islam and terrorism and thereby aid the terrorists. The President wisely steers clear of such foolishness.

  • blutooth

    Obama..IS EVIL..and a THREAT to AMERICA!

  • martinm

    No sense arguing with people who will not accept the truth. Apply Matthew 10:14.

  • Cliff Gridley

    Americans take freedom for granted, they elected this fool and because of that they will learn somebody has to pay for it, it won’t be long now..

  • xprocowboy

    his religion not only condones anything done to further the spread of it’s insidious evil but encourages it, to them, nothing is off limits as to spreading what they call the true faith, I am sure the father of lies is proud of his son obama

  • CA Grandma

    he is an expert at playing ostrich. It’s about the only thing he is an expert in.

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