OUTRAGE: Obama Equates Christianity With ISIS at Prayer Breakfast (Video)

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by Brooke Bosca | Top Right News

In the aftermath of a barbaric Islamic State murder of a Jordanian pilot, Barack Obama this morning lashed out at….CHRISTIANS?

That’s exactly what happened at the Annual Prayer Breakfast at the White House. The President used his warped version of the Crusades to bash Christians. He also blamed slavery and Jim Crow laws on Christians? Seriously?

Yep, this really was spoken by a sitting U.S. president:

“Humanity has been grappling with these questions throughout human history. Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place.Remember that during the Crusades and Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. And our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.”

Muslims began the slave trade in Africa — and still enslave people today. ISIS is enslaving Yazidi Christians in Iraq and Syria. Slavery ended here in 1865, and it was a devout Christian, William Wilberforce who began the abolitionist movement that ended slavery in the UK and US.

The Crusades were a direct response to Islamic jihad.

ISIS — today — is selling as sex slaves, crucifying and burying alive Christian children in the name of Islam.

They even cited the specific section of the Quran in justifying the burning alive of the Jordanian pilot. Yet Obama refuses to even call the Islamic State “Muslim extremists” or even “Islamic.”

Let’s recap: this is Barack Obama’s response to Islamic State terrorists burnung a Jordanian pilot alive in a cage:

  1. Invite Muslim Brotherhood leaders to a secret White House meeting, banning press and photographers from the event.
  2. Blame Christians.

Is this the Twilight Zone?


  • Nemesis_Nexus

    I have only one question, if he made this comment about ANY other religion would we even be hearing about it? He was right about the Crusades and here’s something else christians have done – The Burning Times and the Salem Witch Trials. You can get all uppity about it if you want to but it won’t change the facts as they are. As per his comparing the past to the present I find it reprehensible, doing so takes any and ALL responsibility OFF of ISIS for what they are doing and saying that people need to just stfu about it! In this regard I could NOT care less what christians may or may not have done in the past – it sure as HELL does not give ANYONE the right to emulate those behaviors NOW or for anyone else to EXCUSE it because of what someone else did!

    • Larry Lynn

      Bravo! Well said. You beat me to the punch. The key is behaviors. It is sad that any person would find such behaviors acceptable.

    • Rob

      We have grown, Obama has not.

      • Mike Wheels

        no. youve gone ignorant

    • James Berry

      I am by no means a fan of Obama. There have been, and continue to this day, atrocities being carried out in the name of all religions. Every religious person will challenge any other religious person if the two do not believe in the same god or gods. That challenge may be subtle or as we’ve seen escalating more and more, in ways that are costing lives. It’s all elementary school bravado type stuff with my dad(god) can beat up your dad(god).

      To me, religion is a safety net for most. They can look to their religion’s “bible” and interpret it to mean any outcome they truly desire. Don’t agree homosexuality? Let me find a verse that backs my stance up. Don’t believe in eating meat? Here, i’ll find you a verse that backs my point up. Don’t believe in interracial marriage? Let me show you a verse that states it as an abomination. People(in general) have always, and likely will always, look to some form of religion to justify their means to an end. That is a shame because within most every person there is the capacity to treat others with compassion and love. It is an innate ability, but far too many bastardize this by putting ‘qualifications’ on it.

      I hate no one for their personal choice in religion. I trust those that aren’t bound by religious beliefs more. Not one religion has not had moments of “In the name of God” atrocities in their history.

      • Hotsawse

        Show me examples of the terrorist acts you see today from Baptists, Pentecostals, Buddhists, Catholics, any other religious group you can name.

        You can’t, they do not exist. Or if you do it’s some tiny fringe cult group.

        Compare that to the atrocities, beheadings, burnings, murders being committed in the name of Islam RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES in the world right now.

        If you are trying to make a comparison, you have failed. Miserably.

        • Jack Savage

          christian the trustees… Countries like Rwanda,Uganda,, Kosovo, and the Central African Republic. Those are not in response to Islam…but ANYONE who does not agree with their ideology. Respond a service member, who is a Christian, and has served in all three areas.

        • James Berry

          So you are saying that i can only show terroristic acts by qualifying it as a tiny fringe cult group? Don’t all religions start as tiny fringe cult groups? Are you saying that because a small percentage of a certain religion is terroristic in their beliefs that that particular should not be held responsible for any depravities that this small percentage is committing?

        • Eric

          If you are trying to sound intelligent, you have failed.

          Not miserably, but on a gargantuan level.

        • Lennart Denninger

          Buddhists are killign muslims in Sri Lanka.
          Christian terrorists attack abortion centers in the USA. (4,700 incidents since 1995).

          http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/17/world/asia/sri-lanka-aluthgama-violence/

      • Poncho and Lefty

        Loving thy enemy is not “innate”, but a proclamation and command from Jesus Christ!

        • Kyle McHattie

          It is innate unless you are a sociopath. Every species on the planet demonstrates empathy to one degree or another. Jesus, if he ever existed, is just one example (and according to the stories, a very good one). Men wrote the bible, over a long period and after translating and retranslating it and editing it many times. Men put the rules in the “bible” and “Quran” and other holy texts, in place. Men have been defining morality since we evolved into this species. And unless “god” personally told you what is right and wrong, you have been deciding your ethics on your own or based on the moral code of men for your entire life.

        • James Berry

          I take no commands from gods or religions. I also said nothing about loving my enemy. I said people have the innate ability for compassion and love.

          • Pag

            Agreed! Well until said empathy is stamped out by hateful parents, and teachings that is.

      • Shirl

        Your view is so sad

        • James Berry

          Yet it is my view. I guess you’ll just have to get over it.

      • auggie

        So, you don’t trust “those people” who have any kind of religious beliefs, because they’re apparently so much more likely to go on atrocious killing sprees. That tends to get qualified as “hate” in other contexts in today’s world, doesn’t it? There is no question that some people read what they want into holy books, out of context, to justify their own desires. But it is foolish to deny that many of their beliefs were derived OUT of the text, not merely read into it. Holy texts often say things that cut against popular trends or personal desires; they involve dying to self and selfish desires, including the selfish desire to be liked at all cost and to enable harmful activies in the name of “love.”

        • James Berry

          “There is no question that some people read what they want”

          That is quoted from your reply to me. Show me where i said i don’t trust those people in my original comment.

        • Pag

          By the same token your statement that “Holy texts often say things that cut against popular trends or personal desires”, should mean that only practitioners of a given faith should be subject to these religious laws. I hope you recognize to believe otherwise is a very theocratic and totalitarian view which flies in the face of personal liberty and freedom?

      • Kevin

        Just one question, and I’m being sincere about this. What other religion, other than Christianity, warns humanity about the end of the ages, or the end of the world as we know it? And with Christianity, the believer wants ALL humanity to go to heaven, and be spared from going to hell. It’s really a choice we all have to make before we die.

        • Lennart Denninger

          Almost every religion has its own end times story.
          Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, etc. etc.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_time

          Did you ask this question out of true curiosity?
          Or did you want to make a point about how christianity would be different from other religions while in reality it really isn’t?

        • Mark

          “the believer wants ALL humanity to go to heaven, and be spared from going to hell.”

          Unless you don’t believe, then you are going to burn in an eternal flame.

      • Kevin

        Just one question, and I’m being sincere about this. What other religion, other than Christianity, warns humanity about the end of the ages, or the end of the world as we know it? And with Christianity, the believer wants ALL humanity to go to heaven, and be spared from going to hell. It’s really a choice we all have to make before we die, and we all will die one day. I don’t know who you trust in for your daily survival, but I choose to trust in Jesus Christ, for my daily survival, and my soul, for eternity. And just an add-on question, in your statement “within most every person there is the capacity to treat others with compassion and love”. The question is, where did the words “compassion and love” originate from, and out of all the religions, which one speaks of them the most?

        • James Berry

          I’ve no idea if you are an expert on all religions or not, but for this conversation i’ll assume you are. I myself am not an expert on all, or any, religions. But that really doesn’t matter if you or i am not. You see, i believe in no religion. I am free to choose that just as you are free to choose your path. However, if you are the expert on all religions, then you likely know that Christianity is taken from many different religions before it. Many, if not most, of the stories in the old testament were told long before Jesus and Christianity came about.

          That said, my comment was on the fact that all religions, past and present, have committed dire misdealing to others not inclined to believe as they would have them to believe.

          • Pag

            Hear hear!!!

      • Eddie Clark

        I have no argument for what you believe or disbelieve as you are a man and no man is an island and neither am I.

    • Ray Liptak

      Hundreds to thousands of years ago respectively. We get it religion is bad…unless it’s islam then we’re Islamophobes.

    • mwattackdog

      1. The “Crusades” were several hundred years ago… get over it.
      2. Slavery in the US was abolished 150 years ago… get over it.
      3. Muslims are continuing to “Crusade (Jihad)” against non-muslims to this day.
      4. Muslims continue to enslave non-muslims to this day.

      what is wrong with that picture?

      • The Truth

        What’s wrong is we haven’t wiped out the Muslims yet.

        • Eric Bazinet

          thank you

        • sierra

          What’s wrong is we haven’t wiped out organised religion and poverty yet.

          • Dave

            What’s wrong is we haven’t wiped out Obama and his minions yet.

        • Pag

          What is wrong is there are so many Fascists masquerading as Conservative purveyors of Liberty.

      • Pag

        What’s wrong is the common thread. Abrahamic Religions have proven to be the bane of mankind….I dont care what you call it. Judaism Islam Christianity…All have the same roots in a divisive monotheistic authoritarian crock of crap.

        • Ferrari fan

          Abraham had nothing at all to do with Islam.

          • Pag

            Really? Judaism states Abraham was going to sacrifice Issac…Islam claims it was Ishmael. This is very basic. But I understand reading non sanctioned books can be confusing.

          • stephaniepolitigal

            It was Abraham’s son Ishmael that did not want to follow God. Not Abraham. Ishmael was cast out.

          • Lynda Gilbert Esparza

            No, no, no. God promised to make a great nation from Ishmael’s descendants as well. God told Hagar that Ishmael would be against everybody and everybody would be against him and that he will spend his life being at odds with his brothers. It was Sarah who cast out Ishmael and Hagar because she would not allow him to share in her sons inheritance. One could make the arguement that things happened exactly how God ordained……..sermon over, stepping away from the pulpit

          • Kurt McDonald

            None of it happened. The bible is a book filled with bullshit stories, only to be believed if you’re a complete moron. Moron

          • stephaniepolitigal

            I’m the moron?

          • Pag

            You just made my point. Islam claims it was Ismael that was on the rock with the promise not Issac. Just the opposite of what the Torah says. My pointing this out does not make me an expert in either. However this fact is so basic that I would expect someone as devout as yourself to know.

          • Joe Marsico

            Yes he did, read cronicals
            He had a child with his servant lady because Serra could not bare children. Serra had a child forty years later and this was the start of Judaism.

        • Christ Lives

          Pag, you didn’t read the New Testament did you? What you are spouting is the words of the ignorant who claim to be authoritarian regarding a subject. In reality you are just puking out hatred and saying that it’s Christians fault you have hate. The New Testament REPLACES the Old Testament laws and turns them to grace.

          • Pag

            I am not blaming Christians I am just saying they are equally horrific belief systems. Again feel free to subject yourself to it all you want. I chose not to.

          • Eric

            Then why do Christians who follow the New Testament bomb abortion clinics?

          • Robert Jines

            Eric, where in the New Testament does anyone teach to do any violence to another or yourself? Nowhere, rather it teaches to love your neighbor as yourself, to pray for your enemy and turn the other cheek. It does imply to allow for self defense against a threat, but even this is advised against.
            You are simply a hate filled bigot who manipulates tragic aberrations that defy the rule, to color all religions the same.
            Islam has always taught violence, and therefore violence is a feature of Islam. This is why they quote the Quran when doing their evil, and the abortion clinic bombers never quoted any New Testament passage to justify their wickedness.

          • Eric

            Wow… what an absolutely cliched response.

            So… in order to be “religious terrorism” you have to quote scripture? Please. If you’re going to try and have a discussion, at least try and pretend to make it an intelligent one from your end.

            I’m a “hate filled bigot”? You know ZERO about me, and you are completely ignorant to what terrorism or what religions have done in the past / present.

            It doesn’t have to say anywhere in the Bible that it’s okay to blow up a school, but if someone is a Christian, claims they are doing it for God… that’s Christian terrorism.

          • Robert Jines

            Eric, I know enough about you, based on your comment. I know about the poor quality of your education, and your lack of any recognition of false arguments.
            By your own logic, any American would be considered supportive of government drone attacks on civilians, just because we are Americans. That’s called “guilt by association”, which is a poor argument by any standard.
            Just because someone claims to be something, or just because someone or some entity makes the claim of association, does not qualify as a valid claim.
            There are no christian teachings that remotely come close to advocating such violence. So any such incidence is an aberration, a unnatural act of defiance against church teaching.
            You have no valid argument, and in trying to debunk my assertions, you prove how inept yours are.

          • tigertatzen

            By your logic, every claim you’ve made regarding the character and moral integrity of people you don’t even know is then also invalid.

            You can spout scripture until you’re blue in the face, but you’re directly violating your own edicts left and right by judging, ridiculing and labeling other people simply because they do not agree with you.

            Perhaps you should revisit the passage that warns against the peril of people in glass houses throwing stones.

          • Elviin

            It is interesting that religion apologists use this argument quite often when something bad happens: where in the XY book does anyone teach…

            On the other hand when something good happens then there are plenty of verses, citations in his XY book to endorse this action of goodness.

            We should finally realise there is not absolute morality, or code of conduct which is transcendent over centuries. These books are interesting insight in the legal processes of those ancient times and we should know about it. But the context, the environment, the population is entirely different and some religious people are not able to get it. For the trees (verses) they are not able to see the forest (the spirit). It boils down to the textual and contextual interpretations of the XY book. The contextual interpretation is harder, because one has to know a lot to get the spirit, the aim, the purpose the author was working with.

          • Robert Jines

            Well, elviin, that’s because there ARE great things that happen because the New Testament teaches the moral ideas behind them. What obligation does the church have to accept responsibility for things that happen in its name that it DOESNT teach?
            If I was taught to do X, and I choose rather to do Y instead, my teacher is culpable?
            Ha! Good luck with that.
            You “truth” that there is no absolute truth is self defeating.

          • Elviin

            “You “truth” that there is no absolute truth is self defeating.”

            That is not a correct way to understand my point. I stated that there is NO absolute morality. Let’s say it is oxymoron, something we can not base our arguments upon because it is utter nonsense. Morality is dynamical process of changing consensus, which depends on the populations, environments who use it. What was good, is now bad, what was bad is now horrible, atrocious act.

          • Robert Jines

            Elviin, truth in a sense, is morality, and your subjective assumtion that “morality is a dynamic process of changing concensus” belies a fundamental misunderstanding of morality and truth.
            Abuse of another, for instance- rape, is always wrong, regardless how much time changes opinion and culture.
            It is in transcendent moral codes established on the truths in Mosaic law, for example, that elevated western civilization to a status of freedom from open abuses like rape. If civilization deteriorates because the rejection of such law, and rape becomes the normative policy, that doesn’t change the nature of the abuse, nor does it add any value to it.

          • Twila

            Jesus did nothing but good for the people he went about Healing and teaching he told them what was good and what was bad.You are the one who decides what path you take. The Bible say”s you are to serve no other god but him.All Jesus want”s is for the people to Serve him.so many have turned there face from him and that is why so many bad things are happening in the world now.God allow:s these thing”s to happen to wake up his people .We all need to fall on are knee”s and cry out to him to Save are Nation.

          • Chris
          • Robert Jines

            Chris, your source is a horrendous, unauthoritative, its bias is blatant, and it’s assertions and conclusions are, quite frankly, fraudulent and contrived.
            You might as well stand on a street corner with your crayola-decorated cardboard sign. You would still have the same credibility.

          • fed-up

            hed fit right in with you crazy assholes, thats for sure.

          • Rob Cahill

            Robert where in the new testament does it say hate gay people? It doesn’t but it suits your agenda to cherry pick that piece and bring it forward.

          • Robert Jines

            Cahill, nowhere in the New Testament does it advocate any hate for anyone. Rather it condemns the act of homosexual relations as sinful, as it does the act of theft, or any other act one feels the inclination towards.
            Those who abuse the name of Christ to spread hatred of persons are not christian. We are taught to love the sinner, not the sin.
            The media loves to pick out the slime to boost ratings, and this is no exception.

          • Rob Cahill

            Nor does it mention anything about Homosexuality. The verses commonly thrown out to counter this are about Prostitution and nothing to do with Homosexuality. “Those who abuse the name of Christ to spread hatred of persons are not christian.” Sadly that doesn’t leave very many Christians. And as for we are taught to love the sinner not the sin? You mean the sins in the same book teaching you these things? How can you not see how obviously man made to control the masses your superstitions are??

          • Robert Jines

            Cahill, the verses you pretend to know, don’t contain things they do in your mind, because they convict you of what you already know is offensive to your Maker, the One who loves you and crafted you with great care, from parents who were male and female.
            It is in this proof that nature itself proclaims that abhorrent act of homosexual sex, yet you reject both God and his nature that plainly teach you these things.
            Much joy and fulfillment, that are from God for you, that respect Him, are there for you, if you would only listen, repent, and turn to Him.
            I too have other sins in my human nature that I stumble with constantly. I am no better than anyone. But you have to let down you pride and begin to seek that nagging feeling called a conscience.

          • Chuck_Key

            Rob:
            Romans 1:27: “And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

            Lev. 18:22: “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination”

            Lev 20:13: “If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

          • Pierre

            Matthew 5:17-18: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

            Who’s cherry picking now?

          • Xerocky

            Not going to heaven= Earthly hate? No. Not really.

          • fed-up

            “The New Testament REPLACES the Old Testament laws and turns them to grace.” – you

            youre contradicting yourself with this post now. if the new testament is supposed to replace the old testament laws, then how can the new testament say “keep the old laws or be punished”?

            you, these religions, and anyone who follows them with such a blind obediance to BRONZE AGE morality are what is wrong with this world.
            I thought christians were supposed to strive to be christ-like, all ive ever seen are self righteous hateful bigots who want to scare people into servitude.

          • Chuck_Key

            This is crap. Disagreeing with somebody or not condoning what they do is not HATE! But libtards twist anything they disagree with into hatred for what they are or do. Maybe libs can’t disagree with somebody without hating them, but not everybody is that stupid.

          • Jason Larmour

            If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.” – Luke 14:26

            “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

          • Robert Jines

            Jason, ahh, the “great”work of the reformers, putting a text of long forgotten idioms from a long dead language in the hands of everyone to interpret as they please…what could go wrong?
            The key is in the context. You cannot take passages out of context to prove the opposite of what the text is saying. “Hate” is a translators attempt at grasping the severity of the believers need to despise that which is temporal and fleeting, and we all are here but for a short time. The point is to focus on God, that even your most beloved of family or friends could work to pull you away from God.
            God says to honor your father and mother, and love your neighbor as yourself, but you must put God first and seek his kingdom first. It is THEN that God shows us HOW to relate to others properly.
            The meaning of the “division” Christ brings, is between the lovers of sin from the lovers of God. An example of this division would be those who use the church to slander and spread hate, from those who proclaim the true message of loving repentance, even among members of the same household.

          • Jason Larmour

            Ahh that bible doesn’t mean what it says when it disagrees with the message I want to preach.

          • Robert Jines

            No, the bible, in context, is in full agreement as the word of God.
            The word of Jason is something else entirely, as it is a message of a creation with his own selfish agenda.

          • Jason Larmour

            The bible never contradicts itself?

          • Robert Jines

            The inspiration within the bible doesn’t contradict itself. It is the word of God through human hands, so naturally the hands of men will make errors, misspellings, grammatical arrangements, even a few interpolations, but taken as a whole work, compared to any other work of antiquity, it has been delivered to us with remarkable uniformity and consistentcy, and is far better attested to than any other document.

          • Jason Larmour

            What an eloquent way to say when it’s something shitty, man, when it’s awesome god.

            Genesis? God’s word?
            attested and true?

          • AbolishAdultImaginaryFriend

            Where in the new Testament does it condemn slavery?

          • Pierre

            That’s funny because if you read the new testament, Jesus says in Matthew 5:17: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. ”
            So in fact what he’s saying is that the Old Testament is just as important as everything else he is teaching. No cherry picking allowed here.

          • Robert Jines

            Jesus is the fulfillment of the law, as the law before him was imperfect, in exercise and understanding. That is why Jesus spared the prostitute from those seeking to stone her.
            Jesus, being the final and perfect sacrifice, said he desires mercy, not sacrifice.
            Quit trying to explain doctrine above your comprehension.

          • Jason Larmour

            No it’s simple God sacrificed himself to himself to save you from himself.

          • sapereaudeprime

            Islam has NOT always taught violence. At the time of the Crusades, Islam was more peaceful than Christianity. Read your history before venturing your opinion. The problem with Islam today is centered entirely in the Wahhabi sect of the Salafists, and we support them indirectly by buying oil from Saudi Arabia, whose hundreds of Wahhabi “princes” hand our money over to ISIS terrorists and nihilists.

          • Robert Jines

            No, actually your understanding of history is atrocious, and quite probably biased by a stupid professor, which populate much of academia today.
            Look at the qur’an, and it’s own testimony. There ends the debate.
            There are many passages that promote violence, forced submission, jizya, war tactics, beheadings, hitting of women, polygamy, et cetera. Mohammed was a warlord that taught carnality and conquest, and practiced both in excess. Almost every land that Christianity converted by evangelization, had been conquered and forced to convert or submit by the sword. It took the Church hundreds of years to respond militarily, beginning with the crusades under pope Urban II in the 11 th century.
            So perhaps you might want to pick up a history book, one written before the progressive corruption of textbooks this last century.

          • xpatYankeeCurmudgeon

            Ignorance on parade:

            “Islam has NOT always taught violence. At the time of the Crusades, Islam was more peaceful than Christianity.”

          • Xerocky

            Who does that? How many? Compared to Islamic terrorism, it almost never happens. STFU already.

          • Eric

            Wow… what a strong, well thought out and factually filled rebuttal. Impressive.

            “It almost never happens”. Does that somehow make it NOT terrorism then, because it “almost never happens”?

          • Xerocky

            It doesn’t mean anything, outside of the fact that a) the bible doesn’t tell anybody to do anything like that, unlike the coran ( I spelled it wrong on purpose as a show of disrespect) and b) as compared to Islamic terror it truly does almost never happen. It’s a lone nut thing, but in this case it’s for real. If there were 20k abortion clinic bombers hanging out in the middle of the desert burning abortion dr.s alive, you’d have a point. However, there aren’t and you, and the president, don’t have a point.

            If your relatives were being burned alive, would you appreciate the most powerful man in the world changing the subject by citing the actions of a very few lone nutcases? No. So don’t be an a hole.

          • Eric

            The Bible doesn’t have to tell someone to be a terrorist… do you not understand that?

            And, you didn’t answer the very simple question. Are you truly (and idiotically) stating that because it “almost never happens” that it’s NOT terrorism?

            Only “a hole” I see here is you, with your inability to use facts, have any idea what terrorism is and your terrible “logic”. I’m not arguing that how the President spun the subject was right, I’m arguing that there has been and still is Christian terrorism that isn’t “over a hundred years ago”.

          • Xerocky

            The only people who refuse to call terrorism terrorism are you and Obama, dumb dumb.

            Who’s the one who called Ft. Hood “workplace violence’? Not I.

            Project much?

            Lot’s of Christian terror? Bullshit. A few lone wolves…perhaps. At best. It’s like comparing a raisin to a field of watermelons. And, add to that…where exactly did I even say that an abortion bomber didn’t commit an act of terror? Where did I say that Eric? I’m not the one who’s shy of calling terror terror, yr buddy Obama is.

          • Eric

            What terrorism am I refusing to call terrorism? Please, point out where i said something isn’t terrorism.

            Did I call Ft. Hood “workplace violence” and don’t know it?

            What am I projecting exactly?

            …how dumb are you? Like, seriously? And when did Obama become my “buddy”? I don’t remember voting for him, or hanging out with him, or borrowing money from him, weird how we’re “buddies” though.

          • Xerocky

            Listen pimple brain, I’m not sure what you’re doing here if you’re not defending what Obama wrongfully said about the crusades and Christianity in regards people taking exception to how often he seems to say that ISIS aren’t Islamic. Ok? That’s what all the hub bub is all about.

            By saying “Then why do Christians who follow the New Testament bomb abortion clinics?”
            you ID yourself as someone who’s taking Obama’s side in all of this utter and complete nonsense. Fine, you think Ft. Hood was terrorism good on you. But what’s the point of conflating the world wide plague of Islamic terror and whatever modern Christians may or may not be doing?

          • Eric

            “Pimple brain”? Woah, watch with the language, there’s children present. (that’s sarcasm… I’m laughing at your “name calling”)

            Of course you’re not sure what I’m doing here, because you can’t comprehend simple sentences it seems.

            I’ve made very little to no comments about what Obama said. Not everything Obama said has been factual. What I HAVE been commenting on (if you knew how to read) is when people say things that fall in the lines of “Christians used to do this” such as “New replaces Old Testament”. People who follow the New Testament (or just in general call themselves Christian) still can do terrible things.

            I’m not taking anyone’s side, I’m just pointing out that when people say things along the lines of “this doesn’t happen anymore”, they are flat wrong.

            Learn to read.

          • Jon Weiss

            Apparently you have never read the New Testament.

            Matthew 7:16
            “By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?”

            Just because a person “claims” to be A Christian, or more aptly just because they are assumed to be Christian by the media, does not mean they are a true follower of Christ. On the other hand Muslims, in the Quran are directed to commit violence. I am a Christian, I do not advocate the bombing of anyone for their personal acts, although I would not object to Jesus doing to an abortion clinic what he did to the money changers, who corrupted the use of the Synagog, in fact those who run abortion clinics have much in common with the money changers, since both subvert the word of God, in pursuit of a fast buck.

          • Chuck_Key

            Eric, they DON’T! There are Christians and there are “Christians.” People like the Westboro Baptist Church belong to the latter; they use the name of Christ while doing Satan’s work. Those who live for God won’t do such things. We WILL protect our families even if we have to kill to do it (a last resort!), but we don’t take vengeance on those we disagree with.

          • Holly

            Have you read the Quran? Because if you haven’t then what you are spouting is the words of the ignorant who claim to be authoritarian regarding a subject. In reality you are just puking out hatred.

          • Mucho Obammo!

            Christ Lives, you didn’t read the Quran did you? What you are spouting is the words of the ignorant who claim to be authoritarian regarding a subject. In reality you are just puking out hatred and saying that it’s Muslim’s fault you have hate. The Quran REPLACES the New Testament laws and turns them to grace.

          • judit gherghiteanu

            you mean, Koran turns Old and New Testament to a strategy how the whole world have to submit themselves to Koran, otherwise they will be killed…go and spray your bullshit somewhere else, where people can not read that Koran.

          • Xerocky

            / you are the one who hasn’t read the koran

          • Robert Jines

            The Quran replaces nothing.
            The islamic faith is as void of grace and inspiration as a can of beans, but it produces a similar gas.
            If there were anything valid to the prophet Mohammed, he would have not been such a carnal and violent pervert. His Quran is a political tract that teaches violence and the forceful subjugation of innocents.
            Therefore, the only thing the Quran replaces is the previous cult of human degradation and depravity, which it immediately took up the mantle of, and proceeded to use to abuse others with.

          • Rob Cahill

            Unless of course the particular content in the OT suits your agenda right?

          • WolfgangDS

            Someone needs to read Matthew 5:17-18.

          • Mr. Satanicat

            What you are spouting is the words of the ignorant who claim to be authoritarian regarding a subject. The Bible is not true, and any single rational person agrees with that. Stop puking out hatred just because you believe in a single God, you have no evidence, and your arrogance is astounding.

          • wingsnlv

            18:27 Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men;and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king’s son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.

          • rdouma

            Matthew 5:17-18:

            “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished”

          • actualfacts

            well looks like you didn’t read the bible yourself, “christ lives” stop talking out of your ass cause jesus himself said he wasn’t replacing the old laws but enforcing them (matt 5:17-19)

          • MAGS

            And the Qur’an replaces the new testament.

          • Robert Jines

            The Quran is blasphemy, the memoirs of a pedophile and adulterer.

          • Mez12

            have you read the NT? No where in there does it say the old laws of the OT are to be replaced with the NT. In fact, Jesus specifically states that he did not come to replace the old laws.

          • Plato Thelapdog

            Wrong…… read your bible jesus did not come to change the old laws.
            Context
            Jesus Fulfills the Law
            17″Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18″For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…
            Cross References
            Matthew 7:12
            So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

            Romans 3:31
            Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

            And if this what you say… then why all the hate on gay’s and stuff in the old testament. Then forget the 10 commandments ? Your an typical Christian… you will make your faith FIT into the society you’re part of. True be told, if you followed the bible like the Muslims the Koran you would be no better.

          • Robert Jines

            Playdoh, you have no ability for proper biblical exegesis.
            Jesus is the fulfillment of the law, which means the old law was imperfect. It was misunderstood and misapplied. This is exemplified in his teaching about the sabbath, whether it was made for man, or man made for the sabbath, when the authorities questioned his motives for curing on the sabbath. Himself being the final sacrifice,
            Jesus said he desires mercy, not sacrifice in observance of his law.
            It’s not what you know that hurts you, it’s what you THINK you know.

          • corporatematt

            Matthew 10:34 “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”

          • Pag

            I have read many books including the bible. You seem to be focusing on one book.

          • Chuck_Key

            The OT DOES NOT replace the NT. Where did you get such a ridiculous idea? It *complements* it. It’s the *fulfillment* of the OT prophesies. If the OT was done away with, we have no 10 Commandments.
            I suggest you read the Bible through and compare texts.
            Besides, there is only a tiny handful of OT prophesies not yet fulfilled. When they *are* fulfilled, Christ will return…but the Bible in toto stands.

        • Xerocky

          Except you don’t know WTF yr talking about, because you weren’t around during the Roman Empire I’m guessing?

          • A Norwegian

            And you do? You do realize the bible that we have today was put together from stories that many christian froups had in their local churches? And eventually were brought together for the meeting in Nicea some three-hundred years after Jesus’s death. You cannot take information from one source from olden times and discard what others are saying, thats not how facts work.

          • Xerocky

            Regardless, man’s violence toward his fellow man didn’t start with Christianity, or Judaism, and I know this by a cursory reading of the history of the Roman Empire, among many many others. So your 2 bit criticisms of how the bible was complied are still somewhat meaningless, due to the simple fact that places…like Norway for example, became much much less violent once they willingly accepted Christ. Now that Islam is moving to Oslo, of course rapes and violence is way up.

          • Pag

            What about the Roman Empire? Are you trying to say that Constantine didn’t adopt Christianity in an effort to preserve the Empire? That under his direction the Council at Nicia didn’t exclude all writings that were Gnostic in nature or supported women’s equality in the Church? That all those excluded texts weren’t systematically destroyed in an effort to solidify control of the people through the formation of the Roman Catholic Church?

          • Xerocky

            No idiot. I’m saying that they were outrageously cruel to the people they subjugated during the multi god period.

          • Pag

            Based on how many times you have resorted to ad hominem as a basis of argument I suspect you are not very comfortable with your beliefs.

          • Xerocky

            I don’t believe in much of anything. That doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t rather live in a Christian nation rather than pretty much any other, including a mostly agnostic or atheist one.

            They’re just better people to live around. I’m sick of everyone calling them terrorists. They’re not, and for the most part neither is their church. I’d rather talk about the actual modern world.

          • Pag

            Oh I see you want to ignore history…

          • Xerocky

            No, you do. You’re the one who’s ignoring history, and distorting the present.

            “I am not blaming Christians I am just saying they are equally horrific belief systems”

            No, no way.

            http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/12/31/islamic-india-the-biggest-holocaust-in-world-history-whitewashed-from-history-books/

            take a good look.

          • Pag

            Is that it? “no, you do.”? How old are you? Really…How old?

          • Xerocky

            It’s a fact, look at the rest of what I’ve posted…look at the link. Can’t you read?

            one more time…take a good look. And after you do that, answer this: why do you engage in false equivocation? And why? Who are you sticking up for exactly? Do you really think Christianity is as bad as Islam? You’re a loon then.

          • Pag

            Your link had nothing to do with what we were discussing. And that was originally the origination of Islam, Judaism and subsequently Christianity. But you skipped ahead a few thousand years and started talking about the Roman Empire. I merely shifted gears and commented on the Romans as well.

            And yes they are one in the same. They worship the same singular monotheistic god. They simply disagree on who are the chosen ones and who should be recognized as a prophet or messiah and what said gods rules for living are. To that end they have all three at sometime imposed those beliefs on others by torture, genocide, ethnic cleansing via rape and murder of women, etc, etc, etc…Hell even the Mormons slaughtered over 100 settlers from Arkansas in the Utah Territory in the massacre at Mountain Meadows.

            Really it looks like you are only siding with them just to oppose the President.

          • Xerocky

            One more time Pag, I only mentioned the Roman Empire because you started with this point:

            “Abrahamic Religions have proven to be the bane of mankind….I dont care what you call it. Judaism Islam Christianity…All have the same roots in a divisive monotheistic authoritarian crock of crap.”

            NO. That’s incorrect. The bane of mankind is human nature. Slaughter predates the religions that you seem to hate so much. Has nothing to do with the religions. Christianity and to some degree Judaism have made an attempt to ameliorate that nature that few others have been as successful with. But really, we’re kidding ourselves if we think anything ever will. It’s immutable. That said. Islam, despite it’s commonalities has been particularly slow in the uptake of this thing that the West likes to call the ‘modern world’. That’s simply a fact.

      • Eric

        The National Liberation Front of Tripura has been going on since 1989 in India and they make / sell porn to finance themselves.

        The Norway Bombings in 2011 by Anders Behring Breivik.

        The Centennial Olympic Park Bombing in 1996.

        Seriously… can you not use Google?

      • freelancerz

        Christians nowadays are bad Christians.

        • Xerocky

          But Muslims have been evil since day one.

      • CantHandleTheTruth

        Christianity is STILL being used to persecute people. Otherwise Gay Marriage would be accepted in all 50 states and women would be treated far better than they currently are in the US. Own up to your history and admit that ALL religions continue to wrong people and should be ended.

      • stop2wonder

        Jesus was crucified 2000 years ago… get over it.

        See how that works?

      • up your ass

        yeah the holocaust was over 50 years ago get over it, the nazis where over 50 years ago so lets forget they even existed…you sir are an ignorant bag of cells

      • Code Monkey

        Christian groups in the U.S. have been actively persecuting gays to this day. Should we “get over” that as well? Christians have been actively killing abortion doctors in the name of “life”. Should we “get over” that too?

        The stupidity and hypocrisy of the fringe nutjob Christians makes me want to vomit. Go peddle your hateful religion elsewhere.

      • Darren Laudat

        an christians are saying an doing idiotic stuff in name of god not as bad as muslims but still

    • Steve Roberts

      Correction!! Obama is NOT EVEN CLOSE to being “Right” on the Crusades! If it were NOT for the Crusades, there WOULD BE NO CHRISTIANITY ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET! Keep in mind this one FACT: Christianity became the largest religion in the Middle East until a man named Mohammed made a new religion in 7th Century, One in which included as one of its teachings was to “Convert by the sword”! Islam has NEVER stopped its thirst for power, domination and blood since!

    • Aaron

      You need to do more research on what prompted the Crusades. You also need to understand that for a short time only, some bands of the Crusaders were committing violent acts and those were quickly condemned by the Pope and Church during that time.

    • Evan

      The fact is, Christianity moved passed committing the same atrocities of the past. However, Obama obviously is a sympathizer. He refuses to even call the Taliban a terrorist group and traded five suspected terrorists for Bowe Berghdal (sp), whose own platoon said he deserted. Most of which have recently been reported to have been returning to the battlefield.

      • Eric

        Christianity has moved passed violence of the past?

        Seriously… is it that hard to Google “Christian terrorism”?

    • Michael Ramsey

      Typical! You do realize that your speaking of the distant past while true in part, it happened long ago. MOSLEM terrorists have been doing this kinda of sick, evil & barbaric crap for 1400 + years! The worst part is they continue to not only do it but, get away with it still today! Can you seriously expect people to accept this crap?

    • Bob Fiorito

      You are wrong that Obama was right and you also don’t seem to know that the crusades were WARS against the Islamic Terrorist of that time 1000 years ago. Obama attempts to use this narrative to down play the Radical Islamic Terrorists of OUR TIME (TODAY).

    • Robert Jines

      Nemesis, Obama was WRONG about the crusades. If you were unbiased and knew anything about the actual history of Islam, you wouldn’t even have the audacity to make such an asinine statement.
      Pope Urban II called for the crusades after CENTURIES of islamic violence, aggression, and literal conquest. The crusades were a defensive response after many lands had been violently conquered by the Islamic sword, and many religious pilgrimages to the holy land were raided by Moslems. The Church showed great restraint.
      While it is true some participants late in the crusades committed unjust violence of their own, this cannot be characterized as what the Holy See called for. Some nobles sought personal gain and power, and that had nothing to do with their religion.

    • Pacos Tacos

      I doubt the authenticity of their Christianity if they were burning or killing in the name of Christ as Christ does not call for this anywhere in the New Testament. No where does the New Testament call for killing a non-believer. The Koran does. Huge difference.

    • michael

      the President went on to say this (shocker the sensationalist headline grabbing article did not mention this) We see ISIL, a brutal, vicious death cult that, in the name of religion, carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism — terrorizing religious minorities like the Yezidis, subjecting women to rape as a weapon of war, and claiming the mantle of religious authority for such actions.

  • Y2U

    Someone doesn’t know their history very well. But then that’s not a surprise.

    http://www.clayjones.net/2014/04/the-truth-about-the-crusades/

  • Xerocky

    Yeah, bring up hundreds of years ago, that’ll stop them from BURNING PEOPLE ALIVE YOU F”N IDIOT

    • Teelo

      What?

      • Bob Smith

        He’s saying what happened hundreds and hundreds of years ago is irrelevant to the current issue at hand. The entire speech was politician talk. Obama provides no solution or answer to anything ever.

      • Xerocky

        What what? Do you live in a cave?

    • Teelo

      Are you upset that our military has been sent to bomb ISIS military targets in Syria and Iraq? Are you upset that we are aiding the Kurds in the ground war? Are you upset that we are doubling our efforts as of yesterday? Are you upset that we are now aiding Jordan as well?

      The President has taken action with regard to ISIS. I’m not sure how you are trying to connect these two sentences about religion in general to your perceived inaction to the terrorists in the Middle East right now.

      • Xerocky

        Dumb dumb, I’m addressing his idiotic comments at the prayer meeting where he scolded Christians for looking down on ISIS.

        To be sure, there is no modern connection between the ‘horrors’ of Christianity and what ISIS are doing AS WE SPEAK.

        As per the article that I commented on you sock puppet. Get a brain.

        What I’m ‘upset’ about is that if it weren’t for the fact that we withdrew from Iraq (we’re still in Germany and Japan?) ISIS wouldn’t be a problem at all and Obama wouldn’t have to wage a TEPID war against them.

  • Janet Dillon

    The next Isis Commander in Chief? Comparing Christian acts of the past to Isis acts of today to justify what they are doing is beyond reprehensible. He is truly not an American.

    • Duane Gerrard

      We can only hope he is the next commander in chief of ISIS , they will be bankrupt in about a year and their terror will cease.

    • Michael Ramsey

      Barry should really learn some real not revisionist history before he opens his suck hole!

      • Spreken

        ‘Christian world’… Too bad other people live here also.

  • Carl Welday

    Yes, there were horrible things done during the Crusades. But the Crusades were about protecting the Christian faith, not about obliterating all of humanity that doesn’t think the way you do (ISIS, Hitler, etc.).

    Witch burning was done in the name of Christianity, but we learned from it and realized the wrong that was being done.
    To compare any religion to what ISIS is doing is pure stupidity.

    • You’re Just Stupid

      Wait…did you even read what you wrote?

    • Teelo

      Why do you insist that Christian ancestors were so much better than a modern day middle eastern group that “fights for their religion”? They burned people alive then too. Christianity isn’t special, nor does it get a special exemption just because it’s Christianity. Jeez man, re-read what you wrote. It’s like you’re trying to delude yourself into thinking westerners are inherently better because of their religion. This isn’t just about ISIS, it’s about Islam too. Horrible atrocities have been perpetuated in nearly all religions, and once again- Christianity is no exception.

    • Eric

      If we learned from witch burning… why are there Christians still bombing abortion clinics?

    • Gnoxy

      So your saying that we need to let ISIS burn people till they learn as Christianity did?!?

      • Carl Welday

        That is not what I said. You are reading into what I wrote something that I never said. I think you are trying to provoke me into saying something that
        I will not. You still cannot compare ISIS to Christianity and the Crusades. The Crusades were about the Catholics freeing their people from the tyranny of the Islams that had taken over their country by killing, raping and enslaving the Catholic people. The Crusades stopped long ago, but the Islams are still killing raping and enslaving anyone that is not, or will not, become one of them.
        This is the last I will say on this subject to you.

  • Dontbefooled

    When people murder in the name of Christ they are definitely NOT Christians. Good Muslims, however, can murder in the name of their god. Chew on that.

    • John O’Brien

      Well considering the bible has god commanding people to murder innocent women and children and the unborn I would have to disagree with you about murder in the name of your god.

      • SlamminJammin

        If you really had understood the Bible, they were never truly innocent. Sounds like you might be fooled.

        • John O’Brien

          How can an infant be worth of death by the sword? You are one sick puppy if you can justify the MURDER of children.

          • DonP727

            Do you mean all those aborted babies which Obama supports? Or the hundreds buried alive by the Jihadis?

          • Rocky

            Do you have evidence that Obama has ever aborted a fetus from his womb?

      • JesusFreak

        I would like to point out that God only does that in the Old Testament, which took place 2015+ years ago. Humanity and the world were very different back then. Yes, it happened, but that was under certain conditions and during that era. And yeah, SlamminJammin, they were never truly innocent. But now, after Jesus came to the Earth, God calls for peace and love to convert people. Please understand the context before you start judging things.

        • John O’Brien

          Sorry but excusing a murdering deity because it happened a long time ago doesn’t work. Your god commanded babies to be dashed upon the rocks and for swords to be thrust into pregnant women. There is nothing that excuses that behavior. Not time, not “it was different back than”. If you honestly think that is ok you have some serious mental problems and should seek immediate help.

    • Aaron

      I LOOOOOOVE how Christians can justify their actions with the Old Testament. but when a bad verse comes along it’s all “that’s just the Old Testament, it doesn’t matter”. Hypocrites.

  • mtin

    Slavery was done in the name of profit. Namely the profit for the black man who sold his own brother and sister as slaves. It’s funny how you never hear black people say that they hate their ansisters for doing that very thing that they hate the white man for doing. I’m not saying slavery was right, far from it. But it would be nice to hear a black person actually admit that if it wasn’t for them, slavery in the US wouldn’t have happened.

    • Wiggle D

      It still would have happened, but probably not at the price of African natives.

    • Lorens Goro

      Right on point!

    • Aaron

      I don’t even know where to start. I sincerely don’t. That paragraph is so filled with stupid that it hurt to read.

      I’ll muscle through though.

      1. Indeed. And it was justified by Christians as okay becasue the Bible does in fact say that Slavery is all good. Which was the point being made.
      2. So you’re completely forgetting that in order to make money on something that someone has to buy something. Slaves weren’t bought by people who did it so that they could give money to some black guy. Also, they wouldn’t hate their ancestors becasue they would have been taken as slaves by rival tribes. Which increased after Europeans started buying more slaves.
      3. It absolutely would still have. To a lesser and more expensive scale. But the idea that slavery only worked becasue there were black people willing to enslave other black people is completely ignoring that white people could have just forced them to do it. Somewhat like how Russians forced Aleuts to hunt for them by taking their families hostage.

      • mtin

        First. point to where the bible says slavery is OK.

        Second, There was barter between the white men and the black tribes that had taken other blacks into slavery. So yes there was profit to be made by trading the black slaves for other goods that the white men had.That’s a fact from history.

        And Thrid, White men didn’t start abducting the black people from Africa until they found out that they could do it only after they saw it being done by the African tribes that they came across. When the white men got to Africa, they weren’t thinking of taking the black men as slaves. It wasn’t until they were introduced that they started to do it on their own. They already had indentured white people that they had to take care of by law. And when they were introduced to black slaves, they realized that the blacks weren’t protected by any law. So they switched from protected white slaves to unprotected black slaves.

  • Jon Weiss

    What a jackass! He has to reach back to a time before the U.S. was even a nation to find examples of atrocities which Islam has been committing since its inception and continues to do today. Again, like his policy on most issues a true example of a very weak and sad excuse for a leader.

  • akansan

    NO. NO. and NO. Then is not now. You cannot equate what happened centuries ago to now. It is illogical thinking. We are not on a high horse you are enabling terrorists President Obama, period. Regarding slavery, this country put an end to it. AN END TO IT. We lost husbands, sons, brothers, PUTTING AN END TO IT. What part of the USA PUT AN END TO SLAVERY do you NOT UNDERSTAND!?!

    • Eric

      Okay, let’s not look centuries ago, how about… oh I dunno… the 2000s?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura

      • akansan

        So you think it is alright for the President of the USA to tell Christians in the USA to not get their panties in a bunch of ISIS because of something Christians in India are participating in today? That my friend is why most Conservatives want to be a sovereign nation versus a one world government. Are their Christians in the USA, his citizens and his audience, killing people? Why give ISIS a pass, you’re just like Christians instead of holding them up to the world’s evolution? Why insult Christians at all? Why start the fight between Christians and Liberals? Any sane person knows with those comments there will be one. Why does our President keep starting fights?

        • Eric

          Yes, there are Christians in the USA killing people.

          Dr. George Tiller, murdered in 2009.
          Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, 2008.
          Multiple acts of arson and bombings from 2000 – 2013.

          Perhaps one of the reasons Christians are being “insulted” now is because, in all honesty, they are facing some of the persecution others have faced. Is it right to specifically go after one group or another? No. But it is right for every one to be equal, and unfortunately there hasn’t been a very long list of equality under the American Christian banner.

          • akansan

            That is a person. Not a group such as ISIS. There is NO comparison.

          • Eric

            You’re an idiot. Never mind that your question was “Are their Christians in the USA, his citizens and his audience, killing people?”

            You asked if there were Christians, not Christian groups. Tiller’s murderer, multiple arsons and bombings equate to Christians, y’know… plural?

        • Eric

          Yes, there are Christians killing people in the USA, as recently as 2008, as well as bombings / arson as recently as 2013.

    • Lynda Gilbert Esparza

      This country freed the slaves I agree with you on that, it’s what the civil war was all about. I’m going to type IN ALL CAPS NOW. If you think the USA put an end to slavery you are sadly mistaken. Slavery continues to this day right here in the good ol USA. Have you not heard about the human trafficking that goes on. Let me be clear people in this country are still being held in bondage. I’m not speaking metaphorically either. Literally

      • akansan

        I do not disagree but President Obama’s comments were specifically about slavery prior to the civil war.

  • Stan Graiewski

    I hate to say this but I firm;ly believe O Bama is blatantly trying to take over and destroy our country as well as the Free World.

  • Judy Kirkham-Beville

    A lot of abominations have been done by men in the name of whatever god they worshipped. Today, we need a leader who recognizes the evil that is ISIS, and this man isn’t that leader. I hope we make it til 2017, but I have my doubts. That is just MY opinion, no need to get knickers in a twist.

  • Jeremy Cole

    What the president should be doing instead of his historic smoke and mirror trick is focusing on the current threat to the United States and its citizens. Islam is responsible for nearly 100% of the current terror threat. I don’t want to hear a skewed history lesson, I want to hear how we are utilizing real time intelligence to prevent further incidents in the future. You say we shouldn’t focus on one group, well profiling is simply utilizing known statistical facts… Has anyone else noticed that this president takes every opportunity to bash Christianity and defend Islam. When he speaks of evil acts by Christians its as a whole but with Islam is radicals hijacking the religion.

  • bigsurprise

    I cannot believe our president equated the crusades and slavery in this day and age….I BELIEVE all of the world and society has evolved way beyond that…..except for these Muslims, who still want Sharia law and from those people of that land and religion… spring terrorists and ISIS. I am NOT happy with our President and how he is addressing this…..or taking the rights We The People away, and our governmental checks and balances and ordaining he will dictate to allow ILLEGAL immigrants to stay here…..All our government has done is tell these people in no uncertain terms , that they are allowed to break that BIG law that protects our country from invaders….and so we have 1 1/2 million invaders here now…..WHILE enforcing We The People to obey the laws…… WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK , and we want ia well functioning government back again !!!! N O W !

  • momofidtwins

    You all do know that someone else makes these speeches for him? I’m sure this is an old video and he made this speech at a less volatile time. It would not be appropriate for him to say it during recent events. Someone is just posting it and talking about it now. He isn’t saying that what ISIS is doing is validated. He’s just helping put things into perspective, that’s all.

    • Ferrari fan

      someone else may have written the speech but he is still the puppet repeating them. and what kind of perspective is there? “It’s ok they are behaving like animals now because Christians were brutal hundreds of years ago”?? “Oh well Johnny did it before so it must be ok for me to do it” great logic. then again, you might have been sarcastic.

  • Ed Woodson

    Imagine being one of the people who are proud that they voted for this idiot twice. Sadly, they think they did the right thing.

    • Mike Gore

      I voted for him twice. I also watched the entire 25 minute speech, so it was very easy to see how the chicken heads took 3 seconds out of context to use as clickbait. Good job on being ignorantly gullible.

      • Ed Woodson

        You voted for him twice, and you’re calling me gullible? Ron White wrote an entire book about you.

  • Smalter

    I’m pretty sure he’s 100% right. I really wish we could have more presidents (and people as well) who can see that Christians have both bad and good, just like every other religion ever. Although, I feel like in a more perfect society, religion wouldn’t be a deciding factor on elected world leaders

    • Michael Ramsey

      Quit drinking the sheeple-aid!

    • DonP727

      Maybe somewhat right but totally out of proportion. It is the Christians building hospitals, schools and orphanages. Christians spread the faith through love and service. Muslims came through the same area spreading murder, rape and pillage which they still do today.

  • LA McDermott

    unbelievable – what he doesn’t remember in his history was that the Muslims invaded Christian countries to force them to practice Islam – does he forget Spain and Portugal> In 1095 Pope Urban II proclaimed the First Crusadewith the stated goal of restoring Christian access to holy places in and near Jerusalem. The key word is restoring – the Mulims took over the Christian sites. Some historians see the Crusades as part of a purely defensive war against Islamic conquest .

    • retired_geek

      Well at least in the day of the Crusades, the Muslims only took over the lands holy to Christians. ISIS has developed a habit of destroying them.

    • Aaron

      No. There’s some debate about why they were called. But this is not one of them. The most likely reason is that the Byzantines pressured Urban 2 to help them take back some lands form Muslims. It had nothing to do with Jerusalem. It unfortunatly spiraled into a crusade when Byzantium probably just wanted mercenaries.

  • realitycheck

    To many people going about claiming to be Christians, just because I go and stand in my carport, doesn’t make me a car. To many people trying to discern spiritual things from a natural mind…it is a impossibility. Any religion that teaches hatred is a false and vain religion!

    • Wiggle D

      “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” – Gandhi

  • Bryan Shaddix

    He is absolutely wrong to bring this up in this way, this is not the 9th century anymore. He is so anti American it is scary.

  • Mike Wheels

    the truth hurts dont it?

  • Christian Wilson

    You people are sick…you’d say anything to make a black president look bad.

    • Ferrari fan

      it’s sad that you have seen and heard all that he has done and still believe any criticism is because he is black. wake up, please.

      • Christian Wilson

        take your GOP filters off and you will see the light

      • Christian Wilson

        take your GOP filters off and you will see the light

    • retired_geek

      For years anytime you said something critical of Israel, the country, you were accused of anti-Semitism. It now appears that any criticism of our black president brands you a raciest. No matter how legitimate your words are.

  • Christ Lives

    The difference is this. The Bible says NOT to murder while the Koran says TO murder those who don’t follow it.

    • Christ Lives

      Furthermore, people who fail to follow the instructions written in the Bible DO NOT invalidate that message, in the same way that a person baking a cake and doesn’t follow the recipe creating a disgusting mess does not make that recipe wrong.

    • Mike Gore

      Deuteronomy 13:6 “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.”

  • Eric Bazinet

    I can’t believe this guy is actually in office. He clearly does not like America.

  • Robert P

    He speaks of the Crusades and the Inquisition in comparison to what is happening today in the world….WTF?? This is the year 2015 !!!! I’d like to think we are far more civilized today now that our knowledge has greatly evolved from theory to more of a fact based ideology. The Crusades happened from 1095-1251, they ended nearly 1000 years ago!! The Inquisition began in the 1250’s and was abolished in the early 1800’s, it mostly took place over 500 years ago!! Christians stopped persecuting witches long ago but, these people refuse to evolve

  • best9rfan

    You CANNOT justify burning someone alive from ANY book, NONE whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • andybaumbackusb

    What’s wrong is the common thread

  • PixelPusher777

    So this is the wisdom of the great American president?…’Don’t blame them for doing what you once did.’ He sounds like a child. A person who once beat his wife, STILL HAS THE RIGHT to tell another man not to beat his wife. Never reach back to the past to excuse the present.

  • Mike Gore

    My grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, “If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.” Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- “Don’t ever smoke. Please don’t put your family through what your grandfather put us through.” I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because this article gave me cancer anyways.

  • Matthew Duncan

    He’s not wrong. He simply stated some facts that are relevant to the topic.

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  • Bob Fiorito

    Why did the Crusades Happen? They were wars to fight the Islamic Terrorist of that time 1000 years ago. And Obama tries to use those to rationalize and excuse the Islam Terrorist of our time, TODAY!

    http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_did_the_Crusades_happen_when_they_did

  • Bob Fiorito

    A more thorough explanations of the crusades that Obama felt He could use to reflect the evil of the Radical Islamic Terrorist (ISIS) at the prayer breakfast. Obama does think we are STUPID.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

    • jackblack

      Yes, He does think Americans are stupid because 1/4 Americans are retarded.

  • Guest

    the best is if we, humans, let religions in the church, synagoge, mosque, and even without holly buildings and let life be based on work, love, science, swap of information.

  • Guest

    the best is if we, humans, let religions in the church, synagoge, mosque, and even without holly buildings and let life be based on work, love, science, law of the field, swap of information.

  • judit gherghiteanu

    the best is if we, humans, let religions in the church, synagoge, mosque, and even only at home and let life be based on work, love, science, law of the field, swap of information.

  • Xerocky

    You know, there’s really nothing quite like hearing know nothings make these kind of comparisons, when ISIS are burying children alive, beheading children, crucifying children…I’m trying to think of anything at any time in history that’s worse than what they’re doing right now and I’m drawing a blank.

    That it’s his instinct to try to turn the tables and turn on the guilt for Christians is very very telling of his basic mindset.

  • Mike

    he was right in everything he said. if you think otherwise you’re ignorant and should do some research in the crusades.

  • Petal pusher

    President Barack Obama used the occasion of the National Prayer Breakfast to once again defend Islam. (Talk about chutzpah!) He did it using a tactic he has used before, but never so boldly.

    Speaking before an event sponsored by an organization which professes “that Jesus transcends all forms of government and belief,” Obama lectured his audience, saying “… people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” citing “the Crusades and the Inquisition … slavery and Jim Crow.”

    Obama’s historical references have absolutely no relevance to today’s fight against radical Islam — except that the Islamists are still fighting the Crusades!

    As usual the president used a few truths to create a distorted narrative. For example, it is true that some Christians claimed to find a biblical basis for the institution of slavery.

    But what Obama failed to mention was that Christian reformers like William Wilberforce led the charge in explaining why one man owning another man was an affront to the entire message of the Christian gospel — that all are made in the image of God and deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.

    The president also failed to mention that some of the most efficient slave traders over the centuries have been Muslims, a slave trade that continues to this very day.

    Wherever Christianity spread over the centuries, it tended to bring with it better treatment for women, respect for minorities, religious liberty and what we generally refer to as progress. The reason for this is that the central figure of Christianity, Jesus Christ, said nothing in his ministry that could in any way justify bigotry or the mass murder of those who did not accept him.

    Christ rejected spreading the faith by the sword, even rebuking Peter, one of his disciples, who attempted to prevent Christ’s arrest. As the president surely knows given his time in an Islamic school in Indonesia, Muhammad had no such qualms. He was, in fact, a warrior and actually led armies to spread the Islamic faith.

    There is plenty of material in the teachings of Muhammad that provides theological support for the kind of terrorism and extremism we are seeing all over the world. One can find ample quotes by historians and renowned leaders to this affect, including Winston Churchill, who wrote about the “dreadful curses of Mohammedanism.”

    Of course, who can be surprised that the president would choose a Christian prayer breakfast to launch into a review of the worst aspects of Christian history.

    Just a few weeks ago, Ayatollah Khamenei, in the wake of murderous attacks in Paris, released a letter to the youth of Europe and America urging them to ignore the news, study the Koran and convert to Islam.

    Sadly, given Obama’s record and past statements, I had no expectation that the president would, at a Christian prayer service, defend the teachings and values of Judeo-Christian civilization. True to form, he lambasted Christian history while defending present day Islam.

    By the way, the theme of today’s National Prayer Breakfast was “Remembering the Armenian Genocide of 1915” — the slaughter of more than one million Christians committed by Muslims.

  • Trip Planning Mom

    People can try to blame the crusades on Christians if they want to, but they are looking at all wrong. It had nothing to do with Christianity. It had everything to do with what men THOUGHT was the right thing to do according to their opinion of what God wanted. Even they did not have an understanding. God is not about division, He is about unity. The crusades were about division.

    • Trip Planning Mom

      You have it all wrong Mr. President. Are you not paying attention that Christians are being held captive and murdered? That hardly says that ISIS and Christians are the same.

  • Joshua Hege

    Well facts are facts, and facts don’t particularly care about your opinion.

  • Chris

    Awesome. Nice to have a president who is willing to talk about the christianity like the poison it is on this planet. Christianity and islam are both death cults, its just one is way better at it today than the other.

  • michael

    uhhh when did he equate chrstinaity with isis?? And if you are saying wars and terrible atrocities were never done in the name of christ then you are either in complete denial of our worlds history or purposefully ignorant. Either way he did not say anything that is not 100 percent correct. In our own country we still KKK members quoting the bible to justify their hatred Hell, the nazis did the same thing.

  • michael

    the President went on to say this (shocker your sensationalist headline grabbing article did not mention this) We see ISIL, a brutal, vicious death cult that, in the name of religion, carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism — terrorizing religious minorities like the Yezidis, subjecting women to rape as a weapon of war, and claiming the mantle of religious authority for such actions.

  • Delirium

    Religion…

  • biblebasher

    I love the stupidity here. All religions are not the same, but they do all share at least one facet: they are all incredibly statistically unlikely to be true.

  • frocktorpox

    Whoever wrote this article clearly can’t read english, and can’t use her ears. The comparison was to Christian behavior 500 years ago. It’s also true: Christians did horrible things back then. In fact, they’d been doing horrible things for the 1500 years prior (such as destroying the library of alexandria). The exact words used is that Christ was used as a justification for bad things in recent times, such as slavery – not the words “Christ was used”. In other words, religion is dangerous when politicized. That’s just as true today as ever.

  • kyfarmer

    Ban all religions, especially Christianity and Islam.

  • John Deere

    If obama would have been in place of power during the Inquisition, slavery wouldn’t it have been smart to stop it before it got started? Is he saying it is ok that we do nothing now because of the past? He is a incoherent bumbling dangerous fool at best.

  • pixeltrance

    The King James version of the New Testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the Church of England.

    There were (and still are) no original texts to translate. The oldest manuscripts we have were written down hundreds of years after the last apostle died. There are over 8,000 of these old manuscripts, with no two alike.

    The king James translators used none of these, anyway. Instead, they edited previous translations to create a version their king and Parliament would approve.

    So, 21st Century Christians believe the “Word of God” is a book edited in the 17th Century from 16th Century translations of 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th Century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st Century.

    That’s not faith. That’s insanity.

  • jsteele

    you are really ignorant, but i guess deep down you all are fully aware of that.

  • Kraig Metzinger

    Religion should never be used to justify the death of others but it has happened many times and continues today.

  • Pluto Animus

    In places like Virginia, for hundreds of years, White Christians owned black people as slaves.

    Only someone who hates Jesus would ever dare to acknowledge this undeniable historical fact.

    Someone like me.

  • JED

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/06/1362650/-Obama-must-be-lurking-on-DailyKos?detail=email# Scroll down to read the entire speech rather than an “out of context” excerpt that serves to distort.

  • Sharon Day

    Is it any wonder Obama would say something like that. His wife just this week said “Black girls rock”. Now I am white. If I said Black instead of Afarican American, boy would I be in trouble. This isn’t our land any way. We stole it from the Indians. And when I say we, I mean people from England, France and a couple of other countries. The French taught the Indians to scalp. God has said that Jerusalem will not fall. So there will be many Christians there for many years to come. The Muslims think they have it but they don’t in the end. Amen and God bless.
    Sharon D

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  • Chuck_Key

    The Crusades were wars against invading Islam! THEY were the aggressors…but libtards love twisting or redefining words to say what they narrow-mindedly think.

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