‘I’m Done!’: Talk Host Storms Off Set After Heated Discussion Over Michael Sam’s Kiss With Boyfriend

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A Texas talk show host stormed off set Tuesday after a heated discussion was ignited when she expressed disapproval of coverage showing Michael Sam kissing his boyfriend.

“Can we just agree that this was an opportunity to make news?” KTXD-TV’s “The Broadcast” host Amy Kushnir asked.

“He has every right to do what he wants, that’s not my issue,” she added. “I just don’t want it in my face.”

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“Well, then maybe you don’t need to see romantic comedies or when people kiss on television,” one of the co-hosts shot back.

“Why does she not have the right to say what she means without being slandered?” another co-host countered.

Moments later, Kushnir gathered her belongings and stormed off the set.

“I’m done,” she said.

(H/T: Mediaite)

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  • Lou Ann Choates

    I don’t care to see some of the almost naked women and girls on TV, in magazines and movies. If she has a problem with 2 men kissing on TV she can change the channel like I can do for the nudity. Wonder how she would have reacted to 2 women kissing? Gays have been on this earth since the beginning of time. Build a bridge and get over it!!

    • Tabitha Dowling

      Gays have not been on this earth since the beginning of time. Humans for thousands of years understood that a man and a woman belong together. Nature understands this. Why do you feel the need to support an unnatural sexual perversion? The sexualization of modern human is horrendous. Homosexuals have been known to push their sexuality not just on adults, but children as well forcing them to become sexualized and in some cases, a new gender in order to “freely practice” their sexual perversion. I suggest you “get over” the fact that even nature is against you. You’re nothing more than an ill informed sheeple from the left. Society a couple hundred years ago thought it was okay for a 14 year old to marry a 42 year old. In Islam society, it’s okay to marry off a 9 year old child. Just because a society says it’s okay, doesn’t mean it is.

      • Bob Rtarp

        homosexuality has been here since the beginning. its in the animal kingdom as well. the great apes have homosexuals, are they just following along with the program set by humans?

        • PT10

          Animals do a lot of things humans wouldn’t. If you wish to compare yourself to an animal who has no reasoning capabilities, go ahead…the rest of us will continue to be logical….and even the great apes procreate with females or that species would have died out. The fact that someone witnessed apes being animals doesn’t mean it’s natural or normal for humans. Give that a rest…it’s getting old.

          • Bob Rtarp

            apes cant reason ? really? evolution has us all descended from them. Are you going to ride the train to crazytown and tell me you don’t accept that evolution is a fact because your evil book of nonsense tells you so?

          • PT10

            Yep, Bob…evolution is crap, just like what you play in daily.

          • Bob Rtarp

            there is a genius for ya . evolution is crap. im done with this asshat.

          • DrSmitty42

            I believe in evolution yet still see sodomy as disgusting. The two beliefs are not mutually exclusive.

          • Lee Ames

            Do you like it when you wife/girlfriend gives you a blow job? Do you like to go down on her? Sodomy, as it applies to old out dated laws, is not just anal sex but oral sex as well. I knew a young soldier who was charged with sodomy, he allowed his mistress to give him a blow job, that he admitted to. LOL Under UCMJ, that is called sodomy. I think Virginia just did away with their sodomy laws. Also, some women like to have anal sex from their man.

          • DrSmitty42

            I think you take my point that we are talking about anal sex. If all we have to argue is semantics, that isn’t worth anyone’s time. I think anal sex between a man and a woman is just as perverse and slightly less dangerous as it pertains to public health.

          • Marisha1622

            Even though a lot of people think anal sex is okay, I still find it disgusting. Poop comes out of there for heavens sake. I find it unhealthy as there is more bacteria in the anus/rectum compared to the vagina. And don’t forget about anal fissures, that sounds like it would hurt Just not very healthy.

          • Lee Ames

            Evolution is real, baby. Just look at how the homosapien brain has evolved. We do not naturally fly, and yet, today we fly out into space. this is due to our brain having evolved. Viruses are another example of evolution. Evolution is not just about man evolving from apes, but about Survival of the fittest.

        • Marisha1622

          Humans and Dolphins are the only animals who enjoy sex outside of reproduction. Humans are the only ones who are creative with it. When animals exhibit homosexual behaviour it is not for sexual stimulation, most of the time it is for something far from what we think. I have female guinea pigs who would try to mount the other females when she is in heat, that is her way of showing dominance, nothing sexual at all. Human homosexuals on the other hand chose to be gay because they prefer the opposite sex. In nature it is ingrained in every animal that it’s survival as a species depends on reproduction, which means copulation between male and female. We all know same sex couples cannot reproduce naturally. There are animals who will exhibit aberrant behaviour, that is not the norm, and usually means there is something wrong with the animal. Homosexuals are no different, it is not natural for a human, not for reproduction. It is all sexual for homosexuals. It was always considered a sexual deviation, until they changed it to sexual orientation. They are doing the same thing for pedophiles by the way, it has become a slippery slope.

          • Bob Rtarp

            wrong. bilobo apes have sex all day just for fun and with members of the same sex. please know what your talking about before making false statements.

          • W900A

            They also lick their butts and eat poop.

          • Dana F. Davis

            And their children, too, I think.

          • Marisha1622

            Forgive me, this must be new. You are correct, dolphins and the “Bonobos” are the only animals,aside from humans, who enjoy sex outside of the female reproductive cycle. Still does not change my point, nice try though. But next time if you;’re gonna try to shame someone,spell the name right as not to embarrass yourself. The bonobos do engage in same gender sexual behaviour, but not because of love, or they’re attracted to each other, for the most part it is their way of showing dominance among males. Unless you believe that homosexuals are trying toshow dominance with each other like monkeys, you should know what YOURE talking about before making false statements. I mean you can’t even be bothered to spell the name of the monkey right.

          • Lolly

            please provide links to the scientific papers that PROVE that the apes are having sex all day just for fun with members of the same sex. Please make sure you provide documentation for your “assertions.” Just stating it as fact is not enough to make anyone change their minds.

          • PT10

            Marisha….don’t get too logical. These perverts have a problem with that.

          • Lee Ames

            You do know that sometime two male dolphins will take (force) a female dolphin to be their “sex toy” all the while keeping other male dolphins away from her. And the science is still out on whether or not people are born gay. We all do start off as female. But if hermaphrodites can be born with both genders, what is to say that people can be born feeling like they are of one gender “inside” but their outside display the opposite gender? I only had to take one semester of biology so that is outside my area but I know enough to understand that in nature, anything is possible.

          • Marisha1622

            Thats why I said humans and dolphins are the only ones who enjoy sex, dolphins go one step higher by using sex as a way of saying hi. As far as hermaphrodites and such, they always show an outward physical manifestation. It could be plausible to assume that since all eggs are female, so it may happen that gay people have more female hormones, but sadly that has been debunked a long time ago. Homosexual men don’t necessarily have higher female hormones. Hence they need hormone/testosterone injections during a sex change procedure.And how would you explain lesbians, based on this theory. The only way to explain homosexuality would have something to do with their brain, so this would be more neurological. I don’t think gay people are born with it though, I believe that the predisposition can be hereditary, but even that is hazy. There has been a case of twins separated at birth where one became gay and the other was straight. I believe the environment has a lot to do with a person being gay also, aside from psychological.

        • W900A

          I think the animal kingdom baloney is people misinterpreting behavior as sexuality instead of dominance. Natural selection removes any genetic drivers for same sex attraction within a couple generations. They just don’t reproduce. This is behavior not genetic. Just because you get the urge doesn’t mean you should act on it.

        • Dana F. Davis

          I have to tell ya – I don’t think I really want to watch great gay apes kiss, either.

        • D. Zortea

          Great apes throw poo! Do you?

      • sniper74

        You clearly have never heard of Rome and what happened in the bath houses. Clearly you need to start reading up on history and I don’t mean the books you get when you are in school. Homosexuality is just frowned upon because thats what our Church wants us to believe. But when you have Priests sexually abusing little boys and the church covering it up, just goes to show that its common.

        • PT10

          Murder, rape, drug use is also common. Your point?

      • Lee Ames

        Actually, homosexuality does exist in nature and not just with the Homosapians. I will not insult you by doing the research for you, but most nature shows actually have recorded such acts. And for some, sex has more to do with pleasure, not procreation, so some people do what feels good for them and others. And all homosexuals came from heterosexual couples. And the heterosexual people can be just as perverse, look at the number of teachers who have sex with their students. And as for 14 year olds marring young back in the day, you have to take into account the average life expectancy was about 50 years. And christian society is not without its faults when dealing with the females, at least back in the time when the bible was suppose to be written about.

      • Janet Wojo

        Humans are not the only species to show homosexual behaviors. Practically every animal species has evidence of homosexual behavior. Including but not limited to horses, giraffes, dolphins, penguins, birds, goats, dogs, elephants, chimpanzees, owls, chickens, mallards, emus, etc. So your statement “nature understands this (woman and man belong together) is incorrect.” Yet humans are the only animal species that is bashed, bullied and ridiculed.
        I have been surrounded by heterosexual people my whole life, and I am who I am. I would not “choose” to live a lifestyle where haters like you are all over the place, but I am who I am and the God I pray to said “judge not.”
        Most pedophiles are heterosexual men, that is a fact….so your statement “homosexuals….push their sexuality….on children” is invalid.
        You my friend are an epic failure.
        In the 1950’s and 1960’s, blacks were singled out, ridiculed, beaten, denied rights, etc. Those people that did this now look like fools, much like how you and all the fellow haters will look in the years to come. Love is love. Like Lou Ann said, build a bridge and get over it.

        • W900A

          Sorry, if you have sex with the same gender, adult or not.. it is homosexual behavior. And behavior is the entire crux of the whole thing. I dare you to prove genetically someone is homosexual and has no control over what they do. If a male adult has sex with a male juvenile, they are a homosexual rapist. Any other variation in definition is a lie.

          • Lee Ames

            And what of a female adult having sex with a male juvenile or have you not seen the news stories about female teachers having sex with their male students? Sexual deviant behavior is not just limited to the homosexual.

          • Janet Wojo

            Modern science has proven sexual preference is not a choice. But instead of believing myself and science, I’ll believe hypocrites who want to pray the gay away. LOL too funny

          • cody

            So you say that u want proof of homosexual being genetic? I’ll simply ask this, when did u choose to be heterosexual? The exact time because this is a decision no one would forget with it being such a huge life altering choice.

    • DrSmitty42

      Serial killers and rapists have been on this earth since the beginning of time, doesn’t mean that all of us will agree with that “morality”. There is a small, yet resolute, segment of the population that will always see sodomy as vile and disgusting. The real problem is that this was aired on ESPN, which does not have any sexual or radical connotation. People feel safe letting their children watch. Now, we have to explain to our kids (whether they were ready or not) that there are certain people out there, as a function of their epigenetic disease, who engage in sexually repulsive behavior.

      • Bob Rtarp

        you’ve never had anal sex? I bet your either lying or cant find a woman willing to try it. 🙂 I personally think is overrated but a lot of women seem to enjoy it.

        • PT10

          No Bob…not everyone, especially women, are interested in damaging their rectum or wants to play in fecal matter. You might think so, but it’s not the truth.

          • Bob Rtarp

            really? it seems to be mainstream. maybe you should get out more.

          • PT10

            You and I swim in different “streams.” Mine’s cleaner.

          • Bob Rtarp

            is that so? you ever heard of aids, syphilis , herpes, warts , gonorrhea …….. you get those from vaginas ya know.

          • PT10

            Bob…not if you’re monogamous and stay out of the poop chute. Homos have the majority of these diseases Bob…and the newest one, bacterial meningitis…. have fun Bob. I’ll see ya in the ER. LOL

          • W900A

            Anal sex is very risky behavior.

          • DrSmitty42

            I’m so glad you brought up STDs! There are far more homosexuals spreading STDs and even more disturbing is the fact they are spreading it to women who do not suspect they engage in homosexual behavior.

          • Lee Ames

            That would make them bi-sexual not homosexual. And most people in the swinging life style (and you may be surprise who all do partake in it), get tested regularly and or practice safe sex.

          • DrSmitty42

            Either way, you take my point that they are involved with homosexual acts, i.e. sodomy. We aren’t arguing semantics.

          • DrSmitty42

            Stupidity like honey boo boo is mainstream too. Doesn’t mean I want it in my life.

          • Lee Ames

            I stay away from reality TV myself…. LOL

          • Lolly

            Bob–I agree with PT10. It isn’t something I want to even try. I enjoy all the regular ways JUST fine. Just because something is mainstream (whatEVER that something may be–not just sex related) doesn’t mean it is acceptable behavior, does it? That argument won’t fly when logic is applied.

      • Janet Wojo

        All I saw was a kiss and hug in celebration. Holy hell did they have sex on ESPN??? Love is love. Haters will hate. Keep thumping your bibles, bigots

        • PT10

          A hug and sloppy kiss between 2 men means they are plugging each other’s rectums. The majority hates that scenario and we sure don’t want that for our children. You filthy homo bigot. ; )

          • Janet Wojo

            they plugged each other’s rectums on ESPN?!?!? Now I can see the anger. Thank your mom for me being homo, hater

        • W900A

          Of couse.. disagree and get called a bigot. Not the same as race. Unless someone tells your or shows you, their sexual preference is not apparent. For race or ethnicity it is. Some people think certain activities are abhorrent and dirty. If you want to show you aren’t a bigot, go get a cat turd out of the litter box and eat it and post the link here. Otherwise stop labeling people who have different beliefs then you. Regardless of your belief system, you are accountable for the choices you make. You can discount others beliefs but what if you are wrong and they are right? Forever is more then you can fathom and do you really want to risk the consequences?

          • Janet Wojo

            with the love I’ve found, I’ll risk anything – but it’s my risk. so all you straight people who think gays will destroy the sanctity of marriage and life build your pedestals for Liz Taylor, Larry Kind, Britney Spears, John Edwards, those who have truly showed how they value marriage, and keep condemning Ellen and Portia. The Bible is fiction, written by man, translated hundreds of times and FLAWED!!! Hypocrites you are, for judging anyone you do not know based on something that is none of your business.

        • DrSmitty42

          Kids understand when they see a man and a woman kiss. They don’t understand two men kissing. It is disgusting and unacceptable to those living their lives in a moral, family-centric manner. Love is love, just as sodomy is vile and perverse.

        • DrSmitty42

          Try again; I am not basing my belief on anything the bible says. Janet, are you really trying to tell me that I am not entitled to my own version of morality? I am not authorized to expose my children to certain values and teach them that other values are wrong? We aren’t even talking about blasting homosexuals into the moon or any such insanity; we are talking about my right to not be exposed to things I deem to be detrimental to my own family values. These include rape, murder, incest, homosexuality, beastiality, battery, etc etc. Not everyone fits into your bible thumper mold, some of us merely choose to limit our exposure to things we deem to be perverse and negative. You see love, but I see two people with a genetic disease expressing it as sexual perversion. You have every right to exist and support these people, and I have every right to disagree with their version of morality and that is OK! To say any less is bigoted. You cannot railroad society into your own version of morality, no matter how many recordings you make or how many attempts at public shaming. I am happy, proud and excited to embrace traditional family values.

    • Bob Rtarp

      not the point. in America we have the right to express our opinions without being fined for it. The thought police need to go.

      • ToddAwesome

        In America private companies have the right to chastise/fine/fire their employees.

        • Rob

          They have to choice, its a business move because we have become p*ssy’s afraid to offend liberals that support them.

          • ToddAwesome

            Well, that’s essentially my point. The NFL as a private company must do what’s best for them, which in this case means fining it’s players that spoke out against what they saw on ESPN. ‘Murica!

        • Bob Rtarp

          Tired of the race card being thrown around constantly because we have a black president. I don’t dislike him because he is black I dislike him because he has reneged on every campaign promise he made. He is now a corporate puppet just like the rest of them.
          The basketball team owner was in his home and was illegally wiretapped it should never have been an issue. Whats next? are we going to be monitored 24/7 for our thoughts and speech? I have pretty harsh things to say about our govt. does that mean the cops should come to arrest me as an enemy combatant? If you think it isn’t going to happen your living in a dream world. NDAA buddy.

          • ToddAwesome

            No, your freedom of speech is actually protected against the government. So, be as harsh as you want!

          • Bob Rtarp

            just you wait and see. they are testing the waters.

          • Noloser

            You wish! When the government of any country can use it’s various departments to monitor it’s citizens, dictate which words it can use or cannot use, can use the GPS on a private cell phone to follow you, then it can do anything it wants UNTIL THE PEOPLE stand up and say NO

          • Bob Rtarp

            brainwashed liberals are worse than brainwashed conservatives . the liberals want to just give up the constitution and bill of rights.

          • Lolly

            What I thought was the most funny was the blonde girl on the far left continually saying that the naysayers were “racist.” They were racist? Bwahahahaha! Firstly, that term is incorrect as all humans are of the same race. We just have different nations of genetic origin. And, secondly, being against homosexuality is not “racist.” It made me laugh cos she kept saying it over and over again. And P.S. Bob, what do the letters NDAA represent?

        • PT10

          They shouldn’t have the right to fire someone because they have an opinion or a belief and freely say so. That’s discriminatory no matter how you look at it.

      • patrick.

        Saying religion is evil, but saying the thought police need to go… That’s the pot calling the kettle black. In other words you’re a hypocrite.

        • Bob Rtarp

          no not at all. I have the right to express my opinion on evil as I see it. I don’t think gays re a problem and I don’t care if I see them kiss. I do support your right to say you don’t like it. you get it.

          • patrick.

            So it’s ok for you to tell someone’s beliefs they are evil and wrong, but on the same hand tell them the thought police need to go? Can’t have it both ways, you have the right to express your opinion, just as religious followers have the right to their beliefs.

          • Bob Rtarp

            amalekites

          • Bob Rtarp

            cant tell you evil bible stories, website censors it. LOL

    • Eric Briscoe

      No

    • Rob

      No one cares about the gay issue, its the fact that we express that do not want to SEE it. Its okay for YOU to make ME watch something “gay” but its NOT okay for me to express my dislike for it?
      I smoke pot, therefor you MUST not protest because I had a joint on TV.
      I have tattoo’s, you better not say a thing
      I go to church, HOW DARE I MENTION THIS TO ANYONE

      • Bob Rtarp

        well don’t go to church , religion is evil nonsense.

    • PT10

      Homos have been here, child molesters have been here, people who like sex with animals have been here…the point is we’ll never like it. Get over it.

  • Kelly Hyer Thomas

    The 2 women on each end are completely ridiculous… Everyone has a right to like or dislike whatever they want and they were being rude and harassing the 2 women in the middle… This is still America we still have our Freedom…. I DO NOT have to like everything out there!! I CAN disagree!!

    • diamondryder

      Completely agree. However, you do not have a right to play football or to work for the employer you choose or to represent any institution you choose. That is up to the league, employer or institution whether or not you play or work for them. Your words have consequences and if you represent an employer or league they may end up facing the consequences of your words. If you want zero consequences for your views and voiced opinions, work for yourself where you can manage the loss and gains resulting from your voiced opinions yourself or find a job with tenure, the only kind of job with protected free speech by the employer. When you work for someone else, your views can impact their bottom line profits so yes they can and should be able to penalize or fire you if you are damaging their product or name with your voiced opinions. If you have no employer or sponsors, you can say whatever you like and the consequences can only hurt you. Freedom of speech means that you are free from government intervention, oppression or penalty. It does not mean you can hurt your employer and the employer has to look the other way while they lose customers and it is up to the employer to judge if your words are hurting or helping them. The employer has rights also. The NFL has a right to protect their brand. Notice I said “THEIR” brand because the NFL does not belong to YOU. ESPN does not belong to you unless you own 50.1% of ESPN. No one is forcing those players to play football who have been penalized for their opinions. They can leave the league and tweet all they like about their views with no penalty from government. No rights have been trampled on. Don’t like the NFL or NCAA actions against views of their players? Stop being a customer of the NFL and NCAA. Don’t watch. Don’t go to games. Don’t buy the t-shirts.

      • Mike Fletchall

        Ummm….you are wrong regarding “If you want zero consequences for your views and voiced opinions, work for yourself”

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/06/colorado-baker-gay-ruling-_n_4401050.html

        • diamondryder

          You cut off the rest of my sentence there. I didn’t say working for yourself would result in zero consequences. If you read the entire sentence, I pointed out that you get to deal with the consequences yourself if you work for yourself. I did not say it eliminates consequences entirely. I meant that you don’t get consequences from any employer if you work for yourself. Truth is that you still have an employer when you work for yourself, your customers. What I should have stated for people like you who can’t understand the meaning behind a statement without having your hand held is that if you want to express your views without penalty from an employer, then work for yourself and you can deal with the consequences. The only truly consequence-free career for your speech is a tenured position in academia. So don’t cut my sentence in half next time.

          • Mike Fletchall

            {holds diamondryder’s hand}

            And my point is that judges are telling business owners (self employed people) that they can not have an opinion if it offends someone. If you would follow the link, you would see.

            {lets go of diamondryder’s hand and gets some hand sanitizer}

          • Jibryne Karter

            Business owners are not being aggressive enough in court then. I have never lost a court case and I always speak my mind, without fear. If you don’t like it? GET OVER IT! If I however piss people off and say STUPID things like many people here have and on that show… expect you may be hated and or even get hit. You have a right and I do too… just expect if you say something to stupid you might get a good a** whooping by someone with a big attitude !

          • diamondryder

            I am an American that understands our Constitution and our origin as a nation. I also understand that corporations are just people with rights protected by the same Constitution. I am a huge proponent of protecting the Constitution and our rights to freedom of speech, freedom of religion and property rights, as well as all other God given rights protected by our Constitution. They are all sacred to me. But some of these arguments presented here ignore private property rights and some of these arguments twist free speech rights into something they are not. You don’t have the right to free speech in my home. READ THAT AGAIN. YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH IN MY HOME. Get it yet? I can remove you from my home if I don’t like your speech and I can even declare the reason for removing you from my home is because of your speech. I have that right because of private property rights. You can go to your home and say what you like all day. You can even go outside in public and say what you like all day so long as you are not threatening anybody with your speech. But you can’t do it in MY home. You can’t do it in MY business. You can’t do it on my private property period unless I allow it. Get it yet? Is it finally reaching your little mind? The owners of the NFL have private property rights too. When they became rich, they didn’t lose those rights and you need to stop trampling on their rights to private property. I do understand what the intentions were of our founders as I have studied it intensively. Stop admitting you have no rebuttal for the facts I have presented and this debate does matter to a lot of people here Jibryne. Go to another webpage if you don’t like the conversation.

          • Jibryne Karter

            You are pretty darn ignorant then. You are attacking me personally instead of getting a point across. You have not made any points worth debating.

            I find you to be offensive and childish. You know the constitution eh? Your a lawyer? Give me a break.
            You are not worth any future replies. You put things in caps and yell , you call me stupid and you do not make your points without trying to “insult” me. That means you have no point and have lost this argument. You keep saying you have a point then bs and lie and simply attack me instead of making valid arguments. That is a totally common agenda for an extremist who can’t debate. You don’t like what I said? Don’t come back to this website yourself then… Oh wow! yup… said it back to ya! 😉 I am not going anywhere, however, comments to you, I won’t make any more. You are to ignorant to have a coherent debate with. Any debater would say you have poor skills in debating and clearly you have no understanding of the constitution. Maybe you should leave that up to the supreme court and lawyers instead of acting like you know squat about the law.

            This conversation is over, I don’t like wasting time debating with people who insult others as a way to try to make a point and fail in the process.

            Don’t spit on my cupcake and tell me it’s frosting dear, you are so full of bs any person with half a brain can tell your an idiot. I just hope one day you talk publically that way and you see what people will do.

            “Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining!” Judge Judy

          • diamondryder

            ….you called me nuts long time ago so eat your hypocritical statement, accusing me of personal attacks. You lost the argument hence your ridiculous assault attempt above. I’m laughing at how angry you are and all the personal attacks are pure entertainment because I can feel the anger seeping through your keyboard. Laughing out loud at this clown. You lost the argument cupcake. Put your tail between your sissy legs and crawl home to mommy. Plain and simple, stop trying to deprive American citizens of private property rights protected by the Constitution, jerk.

        • Catchance

          Excellent point… thank you.

        • horseradish

          Yes. The Colorado bakery was privately owned and the stupid judge said they lost a lawsuit because two perverts wanted a wedding cake

          • Sarah Branson

            So even working for yourself you have no rights and better conform. Go figure. The Bullies start from the Top down or hasn’t anyone noticed.

      • KaimiKalihi

        under the equal employment opportunity act – you do have the right to be employed if qualified and can NOT be discriminated on or by race, religion, gender or sexual preferences. That means your employer can’t discriminate against your religious or personal views. So guess what you’re wrong. Civil suits for employers depriving people of their civil rights have been tried and litigated successfully for years in favor of the employee.

        • diamondryder

          You are stretching the equal employment opportunity act beyond its meaning. First, you do NOT have a right to be employed. Where is that right found in the Bill of Rights? You have a right to pursue employment only. So you are wrong bucko. Second, these football players are not being discriminated against for their religion. You are spinning.

          • Jibryne Karter

            Actually, he is right and you are totally nuts

          • Jibryne Karter

            And this has nothing to do with at will employment so knock off the BS!

        • Matthew Dale Papke

          that sounds like a good lawsuit to file. Hell it could be a class action now.

        • My Two Cents

          He cannot be discriminated against based on his behavior unless the same standards would apply to everyone. When is the last time you saw a heterosexual player passionately kiss his partner after being drafted?

          • Brian Patrick Wennerberg

            If you have watched the whole draft for the past few years you would realize it happens all the time. And by the way I am a heterosexual male. Jackass

        • John Ely

          Being gay is not currently protected. You can’t sexually harrass anyone or discriminate on the basis of gender, but you can discriminate against gay people as gay people in the workplace.

          • Steven Druzynski

            But then they all cry boycott and there goes your business….they have you all hostage…and no one see’s this!

          • Sharon

            Oh yes we see it.. we see it.. and we are angry !! What can we do ? that is the question.. its being crammed down our throats but like Sarah above said.. I will follow only God’s Word… and His Word says that homosexuality is an abomination.. period… The End.

          • Sarah Branson

            No one deserves to be discriminated against. But all those who disagree with the immorality that is being shoved in everyone’s faces now. Is that if we don’t like Immoral crap and voice it. Then it is okay to berate and belittle or even discriminate against us. Until we conform to the wrongs of the entire world. Well, God tells us to not follow the ways of the world and by God I will only follow his will for me. No one will change my mind.

          • Brian Patrick Wennerberg

            No you can’t you dumb f—

        • Guest

          Right, so my white male heterosexual preferences shouldn’t be a reason for my dismissal either! Expressing that it makes me my stomach turn to see two men, or two women doing something un-natural and offensive to me as a vital male shouldn’t be subject to discrimination against me either! I put up with racial slurs from Mexicans while working in Restaurants and Cabinet Shops for 35 years, we even had one black man at a union shop I worked at, who was paid more than me to do nothing as skilled as I did! I am sick of the double standard of race and genders, or perverted genders. Sticks and stones! I have my right to FREE speech as much as any of you dark skinned or gay individuals! If you are a lazy, pervert parasite it is my right to say it anywhere I want without worrying about corporate repercussions!

          • B. thom

            Tell it like it is… I am an American Indian and while I have never felt discriminated against as an adult, I have witnessed reverse discrimination and it is sickening.

          • Jibryne Karter

            LOL!!! No… just worry about sounding very stupid…. *thumbs up* Way to go!!!!

        • Trem33er

          You ad others missed his point – diamondryder is right. Can’t understand why you people don’t get it.

          • Chris

            The truth is that you morons want to discriminate against the rights of the owners of private companies. You consider only the rights of the football players/employees. They have rights. So do the Fking owners of the company they work for and neither is more or less deserving of having their rights protected than the other. You only protect one private citizen’s rights and you trample on the other’s. I believe in protecting constitutionally protected rights of both and the right to free speech is important as is the right to private property of the owners of the NFL. You guys are trampling on people’s rights to private property when you say they are now allowed to control their property and who can represent their company and the NFL has a brand and a league to protect. The right to free speech means freedom from govt. penalty. It does not mean you have a right to damage a private company you are employed by with your damaging actions or speech as you represent that company. The players are not being discriminated against. That is the same as the race card. You avoid the argument with your childish finger pointing because you do not understand private property rights as an amateur blogger on the internet. Diamondryder is correct.

          • Chris

            THIS is exactly why democracy always fails and why we are NOT a fking democracy we are a Constitutional Republic instead where the many are not allowed to trample on the rights of the minority, the minority being rich owners of private companies in this case. You don’t have to like it but they have rights too. And I agree it was disgusting what Sam did on TV and we don’t appreciate ESPN airing it on TV. Pull your head out of your asses Americans. You so easily ready to trample on private property rights? Let’s see if I can come work at your private business and say whatever I want in your business, at your front door yelling at your neighbors and customers about my views and when you want to remove me from your business and property I will gladly inform you of your hypocrisy. Read a history book FFS.

          • Chris

            I call you all “little commy dictators” for your mob rule reactions to this. You only want to protect the rights you like even tho the right to free speech was not hindered in this case. The players still have their Twitter accounts do they not? The players can still tweet again can they not? The govt didn’t make them stop did they? Exactly. Retarded voters on both sides and Bush/Obama is the result.

        • Annette H.

          Under Pennsylvania Employment law – all employees are considered ‘At will’ meaning that they can be terminated with reason or for no reason at all unless they’re under contract. Your boss doesn’t like you? Bye! Your boss doesn’t want women on his shift? Bye girly! Just ask me.

      • Jibryne Karter

        interesting… you define freedom of speech as if you were a lawyer. What field are you in? Your very presumptuous to think you understand the full intentions of our ancestors when they wrote that document. Great job for using your argument to give the power to the corporations. I am glad people like me have the ability to speak against people like you and say your totally NUTS.

        Get on a real debate on something that matters. This is a stupid topic. There are people that die for our country every day and you waste your time with this bs?

  • Kim

    That wasn’t the point of the disagreement. If a person is allowed to
    express their emotions by a spontaneous kiss then another person is just
    as politically correct in expressing their emotional reaction to said
    kiss. We have to “build bridges” to get over the double standards set
    forth in society. Either it is OK to express yourself or it isn’t pick
    one and stick with it.

  • Steve Cobb

    Susy is right and these other women have their heads screwed on wrong and are morally corrupt and should understand that this subject is sick! Here is the other thing the owner of the clippers only said black and not something else and oh lest we forget the women who gave it to the press is being charged with extortion and yet she is getting patted on the back and she is getting all the attention, and she is a Felon. Michael Sam should keep his kissing the same sex behind closed doors. It is not publicly accepted by the majority of people.

    • Lee Ames

      It use to not be publicly accepted for an interracial couple to kiss in public. So, we either ban all people from PDAs or accept everyone’s natural right to show affection in public. That is what freedom is about. I do not agree with the asshats from Westboro Baptist Church protesting military funerals, but I will still defend their right to do so because WE can not nor should should we allow, to pick and choose which freedoms and personal liberties that others may have. Freedoms and personal liberties are for ALL humans regardless of how you or I may personally feel about that person or group of people. No one kissing infringes on anyone’s right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. It only affects you based on YOUR OWN belief system. After all, do you like it when people tell you to keep your beliefs to yourself and in private?

      • PT10

        If you are male, you are certainly “free” to give your homo pal a sloppy kiss in public. We are also “free” to warn our children you are sick and to run when they witness this. We are “free” to warn them of bad people like this and WE WILL.

        • Lee Ames

          What makes them bad? Or is that just YOUR opinion? Because I have met a lot of BAD heterosexual people.

          • adam1972

            Because it is a sexual preference/lifestyle that is considered bad as well as polygamy, pedophilia, necrophilia … the list goes on. But ultimately an OPINION. It’s like an butthole, EVERYONE has one, except they don’t go forcing it on everyone’s face to sniff.
            If you want to be homosexual; FINE. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. Don’t loop it on ESPN ad nauseam and call it a “Victory” and FORCE everyone to call it NORMAL on a threat of hounding them for eternity as haters/racists/homophobes.

          • Lee Ames

            “Don’t loop it on ESPN ad nauseam ” That would be the fault of the media, not the two people who kissed. And the science is still out on whether or not people are born gay or not. To me, it doesn’t matter, they are still human beings who deserve to be treated with the same amount of equality as you and I unless they infringe on the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of others. Kissing in public does not infringe on anyone’s rights, just their individual belief system. As for polygamy, if anyone wants that big of a headache, more power to them. LOL

          • adam1972

            Agreed completely. The issue folks are having is that what you just stated is UNTRUE. We are being FORCED to accept it as a norm. We are being forced to approve of it or we’re racist homophobes. That is the issue here. I believe you and PT10 are in agreement as well since he does refer to himself as having the ability to inform whatever his beliefs are… but realistically.. IF he started telling his kids that being gay is bad.. guaranteed that the moment his kids say it publicly at school he would have child welfare at his house for hate speech.

          • Lee Ames

            The believe that being homosexual is bad is based on nothing more than personal beliefs. And that is fine although I do not agree with raising children to hate based solely on ones beliefs. But that is my opinion. But, just as with first interracial kiss on TV (Star Trek: TOS) the more main stream it becomes, the less the media will focus on it and the sooner we can get back to debating the real evils of political parties. Did you know that in the early days of film, before they became “talkies”, I believe it was W.D. Griffin that wanted to get a close up of a kiss and the camera man quit in disgust because that was considered immoral at that time. Now we just about have complete nudity on TV. LOL Change is the only constant in the universe.

          • adam1972

            Personal beliefs are what defines a person. A religious person has every right to believe the Bible and teach their young it is wrong. Not HATE as you put it, and normally that’s exactly how it’s referred to from those that don’t agree. To disagree is to hate. THAT in and of itself is disingenuous and deceitful meant to end a discussion because now the person has to defend their “Hate”.
            When you teach a child that homosexuality is wrong it does not automagically infer hate. It means the child understands that it is wrong but to treat the person with respect as it is their choice to live in that manner.
            You can’t begin to compare the first interracial kiss to this.. You’d have every pedophile from here to the U.K waiting for their first go at it. Race is Race.. Homosexuality is a lifestyle. 2 Different things. Completely Different.
            You are also trying to bring a sexual lifestyle and align it in terms of decency; with a kiss….. Apples and Oranges. Keep them in their own separate departments..

          • Lee Ames

            ” A religious person has every right to believe the Bible and teach their young it is wrong. Not HATE as you put it” You are correct, my friend. I will not say hate in that context. But where race and life style (using your words there) are the same is the fact that PEOPLE are being treated as second class citizens, and that is wrong. And you missed the point, the first interracial kiss was a big deal. It happen when the civil rights movement was going on. Hell, even today we still have people who are against interracial pairings. So two guys kissed in public. Big deal. Once the novelty of it wares off, it will go by the wayside just as the first interracial kiss did. Once again, where race and the homosexual community come together is that people are being treated less than, and no one should be treated less than. Everyone should be treated equally, regardless of who and/or what they are. So long as they do not infringe on the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of others. Your idea of decency is based on your own personal belief system. Nothing wrong with that, that is your belief from the environment you were brought up in. But treating ANYONE with less than equality is wrong. My sense of decency does not come from any one mythical belief system, but from the fact and common sense that ALL people are and should be treated equally so long as they do not infringe on the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of others. In time, this will all blow over and in 40 years from now we will be looking back on this day as we now look back on the days of the civil rights movement. Equality is not just about race or gender but about ALL humans.

          • adam1972

            You can’t equate civil rights to sexual preference. 2 different things. Only common bond is a struggle of some type. This is the most common way of trying to legitimize Homosexuality as a “Norm” to be accepted into the mainstream.. By using false arguments. Don’t get me wrong, in NONE of my arguments have I EVER stated that they should be treated any differently than I expect to be treated for being Hetero. Like I’ve said they have a right to do as they wish. They should just stop using false arguments to try and force people into agreeing with it. It’s at the point now where people are getting fined for having an opinion against it.. fired, quitting, being demonized as haters. 1984 coming to a life near you!

          • Lee Ames

            And do some people not demonized the homosexual community? Civil rights, while back in the day was about race equality, the same principles apply to EVERYONE regardless of their sexual orientation. You say it is a life style, ok, I’ll buy that. Lets take a look at other life styles. Are you familiar with the biker community? Most MCs are the same in the fact that that women are POs, Property of. Now, most people, who don’t understand that community, would say that is sexist, wrong. But within the biker community it is accepted and for the most part, the women who are a part of it accept it willingly. Be advised I am not talking about the 1% MCs like the Hells Angels, some of their activities do infringe upon the rights of others. But the point is, just because someone doesn’t understand the life style someone has chosen, if you want to believe that being gay is a choice, does not make it wrong or bad. Determining if a life style is good or bad is based on one’s beliefs in which they received from the environment they were raised in. If you and I had been born and raised on the other side of the world, our views and beliefs would not be the same as they are right now. And as for what others believe, I personally do not have any issues with as I encourage free speech. I may not always agree with it but I will not help silence it by any means. No, I do not agree with someone losing their job over something they said but at the same time, I also believe it depends on the whole situation. Another words, each event should be treated separately. I personally would take issue with someone who would make racists remarks while at the same time owning a franchise that has people of different cultures and races within that franchise making him money hand over fist. But that is me personally in that one event.

          • adam1972

            Actually there isn’t a walk of life that isn’t Demonized by someone… Christians, Baptists, Atheists…. You name it. Guaranteed there will always be someone in a group that as soon as you inform them of who/what you are; someone will give you that look. So no. I do agree that there may be persecution from their families, it’s internal and easy to start pointing fingers at a family member. Society as a whole is too far gone to even care anymore. There are gay characters in almost every type of movie, cartoon, play… No one cares anymore. The only times people care is when they will have to share a berthing, bathroom with someone who is gay.. But that is to be expected since they are attracted to the same sex. You would expect that from a woman with a man in the room or a man with a woman in the room.
            All of this now has become a POLITICAL issue. The only ones egging this thing on is folks that want to change the U.S by causing conflict and separation within it’s citizenry. Why do you think they now push for ignoring immigration laws and push Hate Crimes/Homosexuality(the whole thing where you have to now walk on eggshells or you are evil../Multiculturalism/Equality (Pay Equality, Unions and such.. Statist qualities)… At least there was one Democrat that let out the secret out of Ego.. –>
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp

            There is so much more to all this you see about gays and racism on tv.. There is a movement to change the U.S by the party that had always been shunned due to it’s Statist/Socialist/Communist ideas.. They have now become the Democrat Party and have begun to use the media to manipulate the citizens with massive doses of reverse psychology. Folks are so into their music and reality TV that they don’t even realize it. How could their heroes lie to them.
            Examples:
            http://bit.ly/cronymedia1
            http://bit.ly/cronymedia2

            Folks are so pissed and afraid of each other no one even pays attention anymore.

      • Donald Lane

        The issue is not that the guy is gay or he kissed his boyfriend. It has to do with the Libral intolerance of anyone who doesnt agree with the homosexual lifestyle and doesnt want it thrown in their face. Liberals only believe in freedom of speech if you agree with them. The minute you disagree you become an uneducated racist hillbilly or bigot. The only defense they have left. For some reason liberals cannot just understand everyone will not agree with them.

        • Carolyn Wheeler

          You are absolutely correct.

        • Ascencion Gomez

          True…if the guy had dropped and prayed that would have created a different issue…of liberal intolerance…

      • Carolyn Wheeler

        Westboro Baptist is an entirely different thing, they are denigrating the memory of someone who died to give you the freedom to express your beliefs. Has nothing to do with PDA.

        • Lee Ames

          You missed the point I made. The point is EVERYONE has the right to personal freedoms and liberties and that we can not pick and choose who gets what freedoms and personal liberties. ALL humans have the natural right to be who they are WITHOUT prosecution from others, SO LONG as they do not infringe on the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of others. Once again, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM BUT YOU MUST RESPECT THEIR NATURAL RIGHT TO BE! I disagree with a lot of people on this board but that does not give me the right to want to silence them or to keep them from practicing their natural right of free speech. All man kind is created equally. Whether or not their environment allows them to be equal is a different matter. In our society, we allow everyone to be who they are SO LONG as they do not infringe on the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of others. Two people kissing does not infringe on anyone’s rights, just their own personal beliefs.

          • Catchance

            Sorry… two people kissing spontaneously in celebration (as Dork #1 in the video kept saying) is one thing. Two men kissing in public in a deliberate action to provoke and push an agenda is quite another.

          • Lee Ames

            I believe the media showing and reshowing had more to do with that than the two who kissed did. After all, did they show anyone else kissing?

          • PissOFF uWANKER

            ” ALL humans have the natural right to be who they are WITHOUT prosecution from others” Oh really now? I know of a few Pedophiles Of whom I turned in and got prison time ,one being my own brother in-law saying the same thing. They too want the world to respect them and their preferences just as the perverts at NAMBLA who spout off the same drivel.
            I have more respect for the Gays I have known who WILL say they chose the lifestyle then those who keep saying their “Born that way” for if they told the truth, all those endorsements from Att&t to Pepsi etc. would go bye bye.

          • Lee Ames

            What part of “SO LONG as they do not infringe on the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of others.” did you not understand? What do pedophiles? That’s right, they infringe upon the rights of others by FORCING themselves upon someone else who is not of the age of consent. This is wrong.

      • Ascencion Gomez

        It used to be unacceptable for most any couple to kiss in public…especially tonguing. Some things are left behind closed doors, not to mention kids watch this stuff… Next we’ll see an S&M football players drafted and bullwhip his gay lover or female lover… Explain that to your kids or grandkids…

      • Deborah Greenlee Dannheim

        Homosexual behavior is not “natural” affection. Romans 1

        • Lee Ames

          And that is from your book that YOU choose to believe in. It does not speak for all of us nor does it dictate the lives of all of us. As an infidel myself, I do not need a religion to understand that dishonesty and killing are wrong.

          • Dan Heizinger

            No, you philosophical moron. If you think dishonesty and killing are wrong, fine, but don’t try to force that belief on me when i murder someone close to you. Understand how retarded your view is? And by the way, as most godless philosophers have argued, there is no right or wrong on atheism, so if you want to be an atheist, embrace it all. Nothing wrong with sodomy. But also nothing wrong with hanging them.

          • Lee Ames

            So, there you go stereotyping someone you know nothing about. I do believe in right and wrong. Dishonesty and murder are wrong. Helping your fellow man when there are down is right. Love is right. Just because I do not believe as you think I should does not make me a bad person. I believe in treating everyone equally, because that is the right and moral thing to do. I really do not have anything against any religion be it christianity mythology or Norse mythology. They all serve to explain how we should get along with one another as well as give us hope. I have not judged anyone here except to make the statement that there is a double standard when it comes to one group of people to another group of people. My belief is everyone has the natural right to be treated equally and with respect. And you may want to brush up on your debating etiquette as it is in bad taste to name call. Remember, argue the issue (subject) not the person.

          • Dan Heizinger

            You have failed to justify anything you just said. If you do not subscribe to some form of deity, you simply cannot hold that there are such things as rights, or things we ‘should’ do on a moral basis. You need only ask the patron saints of atheism, men like Nietzsche. Without God, anything is permitted.

          • Lee Ames

            Where is that at that says in order for me to believe in morality that I have to believe in any deity or someone else’s philosophy? Once again, just because I do not believe in any mythological being does not mean I do not know or understand right from wrong. I love my daughter and grandkids. So, I guess that means I understand what unconditional love is. I understand that taking something that is not mine is wrong. I would have thought that to be a universal maxim. I have a mind, I think for myself, no need to have someone else or mythical deity to think for me. But I do attempt to keep an open mind to new ideas. And once again, you have this false belief that I should be subject to some sort of norm that has been the status quo for a long time. I choose to be my own person, not who you think I should be or believe. I consider myself a human being. Nothing more more, nothing less.

          • Dan Heizinger

            You’re just ignorant. You do not know philosophy. I’ll say it again, without God, there is no right and wrong. You are deluding yourself in believing that they are real. You’re obeying chemicals in your brain, morally neutral agents no different from copper or sodium. You can say its wrong to steal all you like, but you cannot justify that statement in any way whatsoever. Your comments are laughable. Universal maxim? Determined by what? Your mind. How convenient it just happens to be your mind that gets it right, instead of Adolf Hitler’s mind. You are indeed a human being, but on your own worldview, that entitles you to no more ‘rights’ as would a lion being a lion, or a moth being a moth. You’re just a biological accident who lives to die, with no purpose other than that determined by nature, to reproduce. You seem to think you’re smarter than the world’s leading philosophers. lol, you’re just a dumb internet atheist.

          • Lee Ames

            “You do not know philosophy” You may want to research Kant. While I do not hold to all of his ideas, I do agree to some extent in the Universal maxim. We all are products of our environments. If you had been born and raised in Iraq, do you really think you would have christian beliefs? No, you would not. You would have been raise to believe in Islam and think that all Americans are infidels. Hitler was a product of his environment, just as you are and I am. We learn how to interact with others. We learn right and wrong. Do you really believe that people in hate groups such as the Klan, were born to hate others different from themselves or were they raised to hate others? Products of their environment. And I never said I was entitled to any more rights than you, just the same ones as you. LOL And are we not all a biological accident living to die? And not everyone, gay or straight, was born with the ability to reproduce. Some women are born with issues as are some men. Reproduction does not determine who we are. What we do in and with our lives, determine who we are. And while you may disagree with my existence, I am sure there are quite a few people who are grateful that I was around. But I am nothing more than a human being, no different from you or anyone else. We all bleed, we all breath, and we all will die. I just believe in attempting to make life here a little better for those I can. Everyone deserve to be happy living this short life we have.

          • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

            If you`re a Christian, I want nothing to do with it or Christianity! God is love, and you are one angry person!

          • John Ely

            You aren’t very bright, are you? None of what you say makes sense.

      • KaimiKalihi

        you just proved the talk host’s (who walked off) point. You’ll defend the right of the Westboro Church to protest a funeral but you seem to not believe that this young woman and many others express their opinion of the “kiss”. She expressed her opinion opposite of the current media or social wave and was attacked & branded bigoted and racist. Sexual preferences is not a race category – her objections were twofold that this was an agenda driven opportunistic contrived news story and that people still have a right to disagree. The have the right to disagree with her and that her ideals can equally be expressed without fear of reprimand, verbal attack, insults and to be treated with the same respect that the other side demands. If you believe the Sams’ side has the right to say and do you have to also agree that the opposite side has the right to say and do in
        turn other you’re a liar and hypocrite.

        • Lee Ames

          Where at did I say anything about the TV host? I just mentioned that there is a double standard. I actually encourage people to speak their minds.

      • Dan Heizinger

        Interracial couples can have kids. When you and Barry have a baby, let us know.

        • Lee Ames

          Whose Barry? I do not think I know her. And using the argument that sex is only for having babies is a weak one as sex can also be very pleasurable. People can have sex just for the fun of it. Just go to Adult Friend Finder and you will see hundred thousands of people looking for others to have fun sex with. And if you were up to date on science, you would understand that babies can be born in a lab now or that women, not men, carry the all the genes they need to make a baby. It has to do with that whole X and Y chromosome thing in the DNA. Gotta love that science! LOL

          • Dan Heizinger

            And so you reveal what a sick, amoral person you are. You think its okay to grow people in laboratories. Is that natural in any way? Listen, sex is intended for reproduction. I know you’d like to think that nature works so you can have a good time, but it doesn’t. The only reason sex is pleasurable, is to encourage you to multiply your genes. Go on the internet, you’ll find hundreds of sites dedicated to bestiality and child porn, all in the name of ‘pleasure’. People like you make me sick. Decadent, disgusting. You’re no different from a heroin addict in your pursuit of worldly pleasures.

          • Lee Ames

            And that is your opinion. I guess when you can’t debate properly, you have to attack the person instead. I guess you didn’t pass your communications class in college did you? And yes, I believe using science is ok to better man kind. And I also believe that having sex with other CONSENTING ( that means: give permission for something to happen.) ADULTS is ok because sex is one of the best natural highs one can have. And you have to admit, you feel a lot better after a good orgasm, don’t you? LOL And child porn is once again, infringing on the rights of others and children can not give consent to such activities. But unfortunately it can be found on the net just as anything else can be found. Like, what a free thinker is:
            Freethought or free thought is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic,
            reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, or other dogmas.

          • Guest

            I love your replies! Not once have I read a comment of your, where you`re putting someone down!

          • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

            Dan, you need to invest in a little anger management therapy! Most people that hate certain groups, usually, end up being the one`s that are engaging in these “Homosexual” activities! You need to check yourself!
            “You/we create, what we defend against”

      • Catchance

        Seems to me that those who do not like a public spectacle of homosexuals kissing ARE being told to keep their beliefs to themselves.

    • Charles Ray Hileman

      So it’s okay to be a racist if the person accusing you is a felon, you have your head screwed on wrong. The owner has the “Good Ole Boy Mentality” that has pleged this country for years, and Racism exist on both sides of the fence, but to justify what he said by making excuses is another sign of what is wrong with this world.

      • Robin Renee

        You haven’t been paying attention then Charles. They all knew Sterling was racist. He was sued and had to pay out money in the early 2000s. It was public knowledge. The NAACP even admitted that they knew his stance. As long as they were getting paid, they overlooked it. The green overcame the racism. Hypocrites.

        • Ascencion Gomez

          Can you site the suit and payout that occurred in the early 2000’s. I see he bought the team in 2000. Was sued in the 1990’s for housing discrimination but he was acquitted of those allegations. The green has always overcome racism. Why do you think Jackie Robinson was invited to play in the major league… why do you think the NBA which was mainly white in the 1950’s is predominately black in the 2000’s? It’s called GREEN!!! Donald Sterling is a produce of his era…the man is 80 years old…are you telling me you’re surprised a person born 80 years ago would say something like this in the privacy of his home? I’ve watch elected politicians say worse on TV and in public knowing they are being recorded.

          • Robin Renee

            That’s the key… ‘privacy of his own home’. Yet he didn’t have privacy in his own home did he? They are using what he said in private. The others speak it publicly. (i.e. Al Sharpton, Eric Holder, Jay Z, Oprah, etc) You have your facts wrong though. I see a suit of wrongful termination that was dismissed. Baylor was the name, the year was 2009. In 2006, the Department of Justice brought housing-discrimination charges against Sterling for allegedly refusing to rent to African-Americans at his Los Angeles residential complexes. The suit was settled 3 years later with a $2.75 million, with Sterling avoiding an admission of liability. Sterling acquired the Clippers in 1981 for $12.5 million, and as of 2014, the team is valued at $575 million. He has been doing things wrong for years. Just google his name. Well… if you can overlook because of the ‘green’ don’t be crying now!!!

          • Ascencion Gomez

            Robin you need to up your medication. I wasn’t challenging you in a condescending way. I was asking for your evidence…I’ve looked and what I’ve found are court settlements..which really don’t mean a lot with respect to what really happen. People make allegations, people sue and people settle because it’s cheaper to settle. Billionaires are targets for big monetary payouts. Also, for some reason the NAACP along with Sterlings’ liberal ties…have a different point of view regarding his racist profiles of the past. Personally, I believe all people speaking in their own home shouldn’t be judged by how they act or what they say.

          • Robin Renee

            I wasn’t being ‘condescending’. I don’t take meds…. but if you go back and read what you wrote in the beginning… you sort of come off as condescending. They have a different point of view because he is white. Had another black man did it… we wouldn’t be hearing this. I was just responding to your reply to me… if you took it as condescending…. then maybe you’re reading too much into typed words.

          • Ascencion Gomez

            Okay, snippy or defensive use smile buttons, just kidding… I don’t disagree with your assertion regarding the double standard. In fact, I believe that was the line I was attempting to follow. I’m the black guy in the middle of my profile pic…and I’m not so thin skinned not to realize what the man was ineptly tiring to say in a politically correct world. Heck, I still do in the privacy of my home and sometimes in my car. I don’t consider myself to be a racist…I’m a product of the era I grew up in…I take back the need comment 🙂 too.

          • Ascencion Gomez

            Sorry, I wasn’t trying to be condescending… actually I was echoing your point. I think it’s more of being frustrated with the racist crap…

  • Rob

    Clearly shows the double standards liberals have.

  • avallliere

    I agree – I don’t care what they do but not in my face. I don’t like PDA’s from anyone either. I think it absolutely ridiculous that this country stands for all the issues this has brought about – I wish they had just stayed in the closet – now this issue is just one more issue that is taking up so much time and money and for what???? My opinion –

  • Marianne Salt

    Being Gay is not a Race! People come on. The difference from ESPN showing couples hug & kiss after the super bowl is a wide spectrum of athletes in celebration. This was a platform to push an agenda. Michael Sams was picked second to last in the overall draft. They had a camera in his room? Tell me another draft day where that has happened. I don’t care if he is gay that’s his deal…stop trying to make it mine!

    • Lee Ames

      Like neither political party pushes their own agendas…. I guess Rosa Parks was pushing her agenda by refusing to sit in the back of the bus. How dare her push her beliefs on us that we should treat ALL humans equally….

      • AerosmithNirvana

        ::applause::

      • W900A

        Not the same thing. PDA is a choice. He chose to do a full kiss that was more in a romantic mode then a celebratory mode. If you watch through the clips 99% of them are just high 5’s with their buddy and hugging there Mom and Dad, occasionally girlfriends. This is completely a for show moment in your face. They want a private life.. well keep it private. They want his sexual preference to be irrelevant to the sport but yet they jam it in everyones face. Gay is not the same as race and it is offensive to those who are truly minorities. You have to tell or show someone your sexual preference, as a minority it is apparent without you doing anything. The fact that if you don’t like it and say something about it, you come under attack and labeled as something to shut you up is pretty telling. This is the sort of thing the Stassi did.

        • Lee Ames

          “Gay is not the same as race” you are correct, but gays have just as much right to personal liberties as you and I have. They are humans just like you and I are.

          • W900A

            The difference is one is behavior and the other is physical attributes which are unchangeable. You can exercise self control on when you do certain behaviors, race is unchangeable and apparent. Trying to piggy back behavior onto ethnic background is disingenuous. Choices have consequences.

          • Lee Ames

            Science is still out on whether or not someone can be born gay. I am of the theory that if hermaphrodites can be born with the sex organs of both genders that it may also be possible for someone to be born with the feeling of being one gender on the inside but having the opposite gender on the outside. But I am an IT major not a biology major so at best, my theory is just an educational guess but according to my biology proff, could be possible. In any case, they are still human beings and have all the same rights to equality and personal liberties as you or I do. ALL humans should be treated equally.

          • Dan Heizinger

            “ALL humans should be treated equally.” Ah, the Leninist view. of course

          • Lee Ames

            Are you familiar with the Declaration of Independence? Are men are created equal and all that? And equality for all is a very American thing.

          • Dan Heizinger

            You do realize that this was in a context. Originally, women could not vote. Liberals really cannot appeal to the Founders on this issue. They castrated homosexuals. Jefferson personally campaigned for their castration.

          • Lee Ames

            And Jefferson also owned slaves, so…. And we have evolved since the 18th century, intellectually speaking. ALL PEOPLE are created equal. And I stand by my idea that equality is for ALL humans. You or I do not have to be friends with all of them, but we should treat everyone equally.

          • Dan Heizinger

            And what does that mean? My point to you is that the Founders talked of equality because we were all created in the image of GOD (whom you deny). But they did not include African slaves in that equation. Nor did they see the right to vote as having ANYTHING to do with equality, which is why many people including white men with no property, were prevented from voting. You continually change the definition of equality to mean something different. Equality in 100 years time may look NOTHING like the kind of equality you support. Did you support the equality preached by Karl Marx?

          • Lee Ames

            I was not around when Karl Marx was preaching all of that. And of course words and phrases change their meaning over time. But, as I said before we have evolved since the 18th century, and freedom and equality is for ALL humans, whether or not you like them to have it or not. Equality, something natural for ALL….

          • Dan Heizinger

            so why not redistribute wealth to everyone equally. Why not just allow polygamy?

          • Aaron Miles Davis

            LOL dude starts with the wealth redistribution talking points… How do we get from a kiss on television to talking about God, socialism, AIDS, etc…. LOL and way to study the conservative media playbook btw… have fun fondling rush, ann, bill, hannity, and becks figurative balls for the rest of your living days… I think people need to find some impartial news sources beyond Fox… and MSNBC for that matter (yes there are crazy libs too)

          • kfoste

            You are correct Dan and denying God is a mistake I don’t wish to make! When man makes the laws you get hate, greed and a messed up sense of values!

          • Ryan Miskin

            And when god makes the rules you get plagues, revenge killings, incest (think how Lot and his daughters started a new tribe of people, or how it all started with Adam and Eve), and genocide.

          • DrSmitty42

            Are Downs babies considered “normal”? Nope, because they aren’t! Now, that shouldn’t be grounds for abuse, but we should certainly not just let them live like a normal functioning adult. This kind of stunt clearly proves they aren’t.

          • W Dawes

            It is “equal under the law”. Social Justice Equality gives the assumption that everyone gets everything equally, and you don’t.

          • Sarah Branson

            Until you disagree with what ever today’s agenda is.

          • Ryan Miskin

            Unless you were a slave, then you were merely 3/5ths a person.

          • kfoste

            The jury is not out God tells us that He hates sodomy so how is the jury still out? I don’t give a rip about science it is whatever man wants it to be!

          • Lee Ames

            And that is YOUR belief, and as such, you have the natural right to such beliefs. But, thankfully, we do not allow personal mythical beliefs to dictate our laws. Blue laws and sharia law are wrong. Science can be proven using experiments and math.

          • kfoste

            Soon all people will see if God is a myth or not! I am very sorry for those who would rather rely on mans ideas!

          • Sarah Branson

            I read the last Chapter it says God Wins…

          • Ryan Miskin

            I wouldn’t hold your breath on that one.

          • Lolly

            Blue laws? like no buying clothes or alcohol on Sunday? Those blue laws? Or is there some other kind of blue law of which I am not aware?

          • adoremeorelse

            A parent can hate anything he wants, but it doesn’t change how children feel and act. A GOOD parent accepts his children regardless of what’s done with private parts. A selfish parent expects his children to be what he tells them to be all the time. Your daddy doesn’t seem like such a loving guy if you ask me.

          • Sharon

            a good parent expects obediance to teaching that is for that child’s own good as well…. love the child of course but direct that child in a way that is healthy and natural rather than unhealthy and unnatural.

          • Ryan Miskin

            Please tell me you’re not really this stupid.

          • Sharon

            I guess you are saying God who made us is stupid???? What is stupid is using the waste evacuation location that God gave us as a sex area…. What this is .. is unhealthy and unnatural and frankly… GROSS

          • John Ely

            I think you are right. You are born straight or gay. Who chooses either? Do you remember a moment when you said to yourself; “Well self, which is it? Dudes or chicks?” It just is how you are made.

          • DrSmitty42

            It’s quite clear a significant portion of homosexuals are born with certain physical attributes, which would indicate a genetic (more likely epigenetic) influence on their development in utero. The hypocrisy for me is seeing idiots driving gigantic trucks and SUVs and buying cheap plastic crap from walmart rant and rave about homosexuals, when likely exposure to pollutants caused the homosexual phenotype to begin with. Of course, like any disease, it is not “normal” and should not be promoted to children as such.

          • Sarah Branson

            Yes, we should all be treated with respect. The issue is when I no longer have a right to speak my view. Now I am pissed that I have been told to shut up if I disagree with anything.

          • Ascencion Gomez

            So suck face off camera…kids are watching. …

          • Trem33er

            Yeah, God forbid kids see affection and compassion.

          • Ascencion Gomez

            I’m assuming you are ignorant to the numerous teenagers who’ve watch these unchecked signs of affection and some how have managed to misinterpret them as the catalysis to increase the number of teen pregnancies. Not to mention increasing teenager abortions…

          • Trem33er

            I don’t think seeing two adults kissing has led to teenage pregnancy. That’s crazy talk. Now if you want to bring up Miley Cyrus, the Kardashians and others in their league, I would agree with you.. What do you define as “unchecked signs of affection”?

          • Sarah Branson

            It is not affection and compassion when it is just being used as a bully tactic.

          • Trem33er

            I agree, Sarah. The Benham Brothers and Kushnir are bullies. The Benham Brothers espouse hate and should have been kicked off HGTV. All this “attack on Christian values” shouting is focused on the wrong issues. Don’t be an idiot and defend people like the Benham idiots.

          • Sharon

            No they are not bullies they have the same beliefs that GOD has spoken in his word… They are not espousing hate.. they are speaking TRUTH with love. There is a difference… a HUGE difference.

          • Trem33er

            You are obviously very misinformed. They espouse hate and then lack the balls to admit it. Pitiful

          • Sharon

            Love and affection…. wow.. watching two men act in a way abhorrent to God and most of mankind as well.. that is not love and affection.. it is sin.

          • Trem33er

            You people are scary and hypocritical. Keep hatin’ and making the world intolerable. Very backwards.

          • Dan Heizinger

            Pedophiles are humans too

          • Guest

            There you talking about yourself again…..lol …you little pedophile 🙂

          • Trenton Hansen

            When was the last time you saw ESPN broadcast a recruit kissing his wife or girlfriend like that after being drafted?

          • My Two Cents

            Um, never? But then maybe they aren’t trying to make a political statement.

          • Lee Ames

            That’s the status quo and not “news worthy” nor will it generate ratings. But two people of the same gender kissing, now you have a story…. Until it too becomes mainstream.

          • moovova

            “They are humans just like you and I are.”

            Human maybe. But, they’re broken human beings….suffering from a birth defect. The natural reproductive capabilities shared by a male and female pair does not exist for a gay couple. Evolution (Mother Nature, whatever) has ensured a gay couple will be unable to reproduce as a result of their pairing. Gay couples are evolutionary/biological deadends.

            I don’t hold that against them. They have every right to live life to it’s fullest. But, don’t hold it against me if I disagree with their “in your face” method of trying to make the world accept them.

            HOWEVER…IF gay males ever grow ovaries and fallopian tubes in their rectum, or females become able to ejaculate semen from their clitorus…we’ll re-open this discussion.

          • Lee Ames

            Actually, women have the all the genes to make a baby themselves, with a little from science, but men do not. It is that whole X and Y gene thing with the DNA. You should watch Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman. Science, gotta love it. Besides, sex is not just for having children anymore. You can have sex just for the pleasure of it. And it is good for you as well.

          • Dan Heizinger

            Tell that to the millions dead from AIDS

          • Lee Ames

            You do know that heterosexual people can get HIV/AIDS as well, correct?

          • Dan Heizinger

            Yes. Usually those who are deviant and degenerate.

          • Lee Ames

            Man, you are good with those blanket statements…. But you did say “Usually” so I guess even you know that not everyone who has HIV is a deviant.

          • Dan Heizinger

            No, many were the victims of homosexual blood transfusions, and bisexual men who were engaging in sodomy behind the backs of their female lovers. I think we’d both agree those were innocent victims of this insidious disease, but you are foolish if you deny that AIDS was a disease spread by sexual promiscuity primarily.

          • Lee Ames

            Most social diseases are spread by sexual promiscuity. That is what condoms are for. LOL

          • W Dawes

            some were from blood transfusions

          • Aaron Miles Davis

            Lee dont get dragged down with these homophobic nut jobs… if they want to complain about seeing two dudes kiss… they have the freedom to change the damn channel… seriously how much sex, violence, language is on the tube, and people are going to hate on two guys kissing a couple of times? Furthermore when a persons argument is HIV is caused solely by gays – they have already lost their credibility… Hope you have a good day Lee 😉

          • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

            Aaron I agree! Especially Dan….he`s one angry person…I feel sorry for him!

          • DrSmitty42

            Usually as a result of exposure to a homosexual. Many women are infected by men they think are straight.

          • DrSmitty42

            Recent research indicates a clear role for the Y chromosome and that it is vital to genetic health of the species.

          • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

            Obviously, you have no gay friends, neighbors, Sons, Daughter, Aunts, Uncles, and so on! If you had, then, and only then would you be able to understand what`s it`s like to be Gay, or have a gay child. The Gay people I know, are financially secure, emotionally stable, care for and adore their Mothers, pay their taxes, and contribute/donate time & money to the less fortunate.
            What about you, aside from complaining about people you really don`t know, what are you doing to help make this world a better place?!?

          • mike

            YES THEY R HUMANS BUT DOES KIDS GOT TO WATCH EM SWAPPING SPIT?

          • Lee Ames

            Do you kids see heterosexual couples swap spit?

          • Dan Heizinger

            Most of those couples haven’t tasted feces

          • Lee Ames

            Are you 100% sure about that? You seem to know a lot about the personal sex habits of people you have not met. How is that? On you on Adult Friend Finder too?

          • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

            Dan the “Manly” man`s profile is probably on http://www.loveyourfeces.com

          • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

            Tell me Dan, what does it taste like! You seen to be the expert …lol

          • DrSmitty42

            Yes, because that is normal and accepted. A child’s first reaction to two men kissing is repulsion. You can’t argue with that kind of pure, knee-jerk reaction with all the sociological research or bleeding hearts in the world.

          • PT10

            Only animals are capable of having sex from behind. That’s why this behavior was long considered bestiality because human males cannot do it any other way with another male.

          • PT10

            Lee, pedophiles and rapists also are humans and if society is going to turn “behaviors” into “rights, then these people also have rights to personal liberties they find enjoyable, such as raping and molesting children. Homos have the liberty to practice their vile acts in private. If they don’t they may be humiliated and degraded which is our right. I personally think anyone who behaves this way is subhuman. So sue me Lee. LOL

          • Lee Ames

            You have not been paying attention, my friend. Pedophiles and rapists infringe on the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of others. And that is wrong. Unlike a homosexual person who just wants to be accepted for who they are and NOT have to hide in the shadows anymore, no one should be treated as a 2nd class citizen. So long as they do not infringe on the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of others. And as for two people kissing, that is much better to see than to see them butcher one another. Make love not war. It s much more fun to make love (or just have hot, nasty sex) LOL

          • PT10

            And who makes you the authority on who deserves “rights” and who doesn’t….my friend. Some women enjoy being raped and many pedophiles claim children enjoy it also. Once, again, who gets to make the distinction? It matters not what a person wants. It matters what the majority find acceptable and we will never find homosexuality an acceptable behavior. I’m sure rapists and pedophiles would also love to be “accepted” but the greater society makes the distinction for all children. No sex regardless of how you feel about it. Two men plugging the poop hole is NOT sex and if you think so, I have no desire to be your “friend.” LOL

          • Lee Ames

            I do not know any women who enjoys being raped against their will and young children are not old enough to give consent. My beliefs as a free thinker is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness so long as one does not infringe on these same rights of others. Rape and pedophilia both infringe upon the rights of others. Is that really so hard to understand? So if you want to sit at home, watch Sponge Bob, play HALO and smoke a joint, go for it cause you ain’t bothering anyone. But when you take from someone without permission, then you are infringing on the rights of others and that is wrong. So as for two (or more) consenting adults (consent means with permission) having sex in a manner that pleases all involved, it does not affect me in the least nor should it you. But we both are getting off point here, no one (until they prove otherwise) should be treated as a 2nd class citizen. That is wrong. Everyone deserves to be treated equally no matter who they are so long (can you guess what I am about to say? LOL) as they do not infringe on the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness of others. That means those pedophiles are wrong for forcing themselves on young children who can not give consent nor understand what is happening to them except that they are being violated. WHY? Because the pedophiles are infringing on the rights of the children they violate.

          • PT10

            Ahhh Lee, you don’t work for a psychologist. There are women out there who do enjoy being raped against their will. It’s a turn on for them. What you don’t understand Lee is there are people who believe that some children actually enjoy sexual encounters with adults and it is these sick bastards that will try to change things just as the crazy homos are doing. I will continue to treat homosexuals as second class citizens because their behavior is second class. You’re not listening where pedophiles are concerned Lee. There are those who believe children enjoy and some children even learn to love their abusers. You’re so naive.

          • Lee Ames

            I do know that some women enjoy rape fantasies but I still do not know of any who enjoy it against their will. But what would I know, right? I guess I have not met as many women as you have in all of my travels. And I didn’t say that pedophiles say that children enjoy it. I did say that young children do not understand what is happening to them while they are being violated. Homosexuals are not the same as rapists and pedophiles. Homosexuals, believe in consensual sex. That means they person they are with gives permission to also engage in sex. Nothing wrong with that. And while I do not agree with you wanting to treat people who have did you no harm as 2nd class citizens, I respect your right to YOUR belief. It does not mean I agree with it but I will defend to the death your right to believe in such. That is freedom.

          • DrSmitty42

            Murders are human. Thieves are human. I disagree with their morality. Doesn’t mean they have any right to tell the rest of us they are “normal”.

          • Lee Ames

            When you are no longer afraid of free thinkers and when you learn how to debate like a rational person. We will talk. You are just being silly now and that makes me wonder if that Dr in front of your name is just a handle. I say that because I would hope someone with an actual PH.D would know how to debate and state their argument better. But for the record, if some did commit murder or steal from someone, it goes back to, are you ready for this AGAIN? They infringed on the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of others. So your statement “Murders are human. Thieves are human. I disagree with their morality.
            Doesn’t mean they have any right to tell the rest of us they are
            “normal”.” does not really make any sense. But thanks for playing.

          • DrSmitty42

            I encourage free thinking, which is why I feel so adamant about our right to resist the normalization of sodomy. You’re actually working against yourself by flocking with the mainstream on that point, friend. I don’t think you understand: when ESPN airs a kiss between two men, what is a child’s first reaction? “EEWWW GROSS! Dad, why are two men kissing?” They’ve just infringed upon my right to raise my children in a moral way. It has been proven time and again homosexual behavior spreads STDs far faster than heterosexual behavior, so if you want to take the approach of “it doesn’t hurt anyone”, you are also wrong. There is a large percentage of men engaged in this deviant behavior, who happen to be married. Those men carry STDs home to their wives. We can go on and on and on, but the fact is, you have to respect my version of morality as much as I have to respect yours. You have every right to see homosexuality as normal behavior and I have every right to see it as deviant, disgusting, and a sign of epigenetic disease. Gays are no longer persecuted, but that isn’t enough for your crowd. You won’t stop until everyone thinks your way, and that is just as troubling as lynching gay people. Now the shoe is on the other foot, we see just how tolerant GLAAD people are. In my opinion, they are more bigoted than any christian evangelist.

          • DrSmitty42

            Besides, even if is isn’t criminal to be homosexual, it is not normal. Just as a downs syndrome baby or an autistic child is not normal. We as a society do not have any responsibility to revolve around pathology as normal.

          • John

            It depends upon what litmus test you are using. I use God’s laws as my litmus test under which people have NO right to practice homosexuality. People do Not have this liberty. It is a falsehood of man. Exactly the opposite is true. That is why man’s laws were modeled after God’s laws. Now, we are destroying the very laws and morality upon which our nation and society were successfully built and flourished. Not only do people NOT have a right to practice homosexuality, they are to pay the ultimate price for this type of behavior – sin! Man is wrong! “There is a way that seems right to a man but, it leads to death.” This and what is being done to our children MUST be stopped NOW or we will truly be “In the Hands of an Angry God. Your ideological position and others with this same position are what is fundamentally destroying our society and nation!

      • JohnWayne

        lol you have to be kidding me right? Your comparing slavery to homosexuality? Nice try. It was another leftist staged event so they could
        yet again turn the world upside down. Try to convince the world just
        how “Noooormal” being gay is and to trap and destroy conservatives. The Dolphin player that spoke out is now being forced against his will to accept views he does not believe
        or he will lose his job. This is not freedom my friend…it’s called
        tyranny. What if the shoe were on the other foot. We’ll it was.
        People were aloud to burn Tim Tbow down yet you didn’t see an outcry or
        Religions reeducation camps for players did you? Interesting how the
        left sense of freedom and fairness works.

    • Freedomrequiresresponsibility

      Like when the ship returned after the military finally approved being gay in the military. The one girl brought video cameras and an entourage to clap and make it seem like a big thing, the other girl wanted a romantic kiss from her girl…..not the News Clip she was greeted with. I’ll bet those two aren’t together anymore…….

      NFL, goodbye……I started boycotting when you started preaching against the Second Amendment, this garbage just puts the nail in your coffin…….

      • DrSmitty42

        Exactly. First the second amendment discrimination and now the total abandonment of not just neutrality, but family values and decency. I like watching NCAA football, anyway. More chance for exciting plays.

    • JohnWayne

      Your exactly right. It was another lefist staged event so they could yet again turn the world upside down. Try to convince the world just how “Noooormal” being gay is and to trap and destroy conservatives. The Dolphon player that spoke out is now being forced against his will to accept views he does not believe
      or he will lose his job. This is not freedom my friend…it’s called
      tyranny. What if the shoe were on the other foot. We’ll it was.
      People were aloud to burn Tim Tbow down yet you didn’t see an outcry or
      Religions reeducation camps for players did you? Interesting how the
      left sense of freedom and fairness works.

      • Ryan Miskin

        If you don’t understand the fundamental difference between being gay and choosing to be of a certain religion, then you’re hopeless to even try to argue with.

        • Sharon

          You are the one who doesn’t understand. We are all tempted to sin.. and those who are tempted to act immorally with someone of their own sex are supposed to resist just as someone who is tempted to cheat on their spouse. Sin is a shameful thing, not something to celebrate. Sin is a CHOICE! Just as living according to God’s Law is a choice. Then there are the consequences …. of choosing sin. In this upside down world we are being FORCED to accept and not say one word when an abomination is acted out in front of our eyes!!!

          • Ryan Miskin

            Sharon, what you don’t understand is that the Bible is just a book made by men, nothing more. Just like every other religious text. Religion was created as a means to control people, and as you can tell it’s doing a number on you. So when your argument says “living according to god’s law”, that has no weight in a real argument, only among people who share the same religious ideology as you and nod their brainwashed head to whatever you’re babbling about.

            If you think that being gay is a choice, and a choice that people would CHOOSE to make, then you’re insane. Why would someone choose to be looked down on by people, be made fun of, be bullied in school, be denied equal rights as their straight counterparts, etc.? Why would you CHOOSE to live a life filled with obstacles if you’re really attracted to the opposite sex? Did you CHOOSE to like the opposite sex? No. It’s natural, your sexual attraction to one sex or the other is NOT a choice. To think otherwise is utterly moronic and close-minded (not uncommon coming from ANY religious person).

            Also, you can say whatever you want, but when you broadcast your opinion for millions of people to see, don’t be surprised when your words are not enjoyed by everyone. But I get it. Judging from your confederate flag avatar, you’re probably a republican from the south who has been in a heavily religious house and had a circle of religious friends their whole life. And judging by your name you could be older as well (I’m 28 and have never known a single Sharon), so it’s hard to break the ideas that you’ve held so close your entire life.

            Also, if you want to preach sin and the Bible so much, take a deeper look as to what’s in your sacred Bible. Lots of hate, lots of (condoned) killing, and lots of rules that I’d bet you don’t follow or even try to follow. Didn’t god say to “love thy neighbor”? Was there an asterisk there that said “except for gays”? Doesn’t the Bible also say you are not to judge, all sin is equal, and that god loves everyone? So when you’re wearing mixed fabrics, or your husband shaves his beard, you’re sinning just as equally as the gays you despise.

        • Susan Miller

          Bottom line is NOBODY KNOWS where homosexuality begins. That is why there is no argument. It is all opinion created thru perception and to expect people who don’t line up w/certain groups opinions to conform is tyranny. THE END. This article appeared in SOLUS CHRISTUS and is worth the read.

    • Brandon Lewis

      thank you I am so sick of people saying you hate me because I’m gay? You’re racist!… obviously people do not know the definition of racism

    • B. thom

      Amen!!

    • Jibryne Karter

      About time someone made a good comment on here. Who cares if he is gay and who cares if someone does care? Grow up and get over it. I thought this was about sports not politics and religion? Wow!

  • Phoenix Rising

    Put your big girl panties on and change the frickin’ channel if you don’t like seeing people kissing (just gay people, lets be honest here) and want to shelter your kids from the real world and make them bigots like you. You showed your children that you’re an unprofessional, immature, bratty wannabe princess by taking your “toys” and storming out of the sandbox as soon as you realized you’re unable to defend your bigoted attitude. Ugh. I hope you didn’t go back – the show is better without you.

    • Beedogs

      15 years ago gays were considered abhorrent and their practices medically unsound. Even after the HIV and Hepatitis outbreaks, somehow homosexuality has become the new “in” thing for liberals. TV shows are loaded with gays at higher than they exist in the real world. The KKGay radicals ruin businesses and people who do not agree with the gay lifestyle. Now you DEMAND that we want to see men kissing each other?
      Liberals, the American Taliban, demanding everyone agree with them or else.

    • PT10

      We love being bigots when the subject is homoism.

    • PT10

      We want to keep our kids healthy and homosexual activity does not allow that to happen. Put your big girl panties on start working 24-7 to pay for all the disease this behavior propagates since you find it acceptable. Yes, I’m a bigot and proud of it when it comes to this deadly immoral behavior.

  • kenan0101

    You have to like it or you will be sent to re-education camps, this is, after all, the time of Obama.

  • Beedogs

    Liberals only tolerate freedom of speech when others agree with them. The KKGay is the American version of the Taliban.

    • KansasGirl

      Brilliant – KKGay.

    • MSGran

      Love that….KKGay…gonna have to start using that one, if it’s ok w/u!

  • David Hamm

    The Blond on the Left is an IDIOT!

    • serriekue

      AMEN ! Since when is gay a race. What a an nimrod.

  • BillyBob

    nothing hates like filthy, disgusting homoNazis

  • Bob Rtarp

    Tired of the race card being thrown around constantly because we have a black president. I don’t dislike him because he is black I dislike him because he has reneged on every campaign promise he made. He is a corporate puppet just like the rest of them.
    The basketball team owner was in his home and was illegally wiretapped it should never have been an issue. Whats next? are we going to be monitored 24/7 for our thoughts and speech? I have pretty harsh things to say about our govt. does that mean the cops should come to arrest me as an enemy combatant? If you think it isn’t going to happen your living in a dream world. NDAA look it up, our wonderful president signed it and the fought for the right to indefinitely detain americans with no due process after the courts found it unconstitutional.

  • PT10

    It’s called “insensitivity training” and I refuse to comply. I will never become insensitive watching two men or two women give each other a sloppy kiss, celebratory or otherwise and you can stick your “sensitivity training” where the sun don’t shine. It’s sick and always will be.

    • Lee Ames

      And that is YOUR opinion. And not all opinions are the same but like assholes, everyone has one. Thank you for practicing your freedom of speech that I have spent a quarter of my life defending for you. You are welcome.

      • PT10

        Cry me a river Lee. I have relatives in the service too.

        • Lee Ames

          Please thank them for their service for me.

  • Dave Coberly

    Whats really bad in this whole indoctrination movement is the fact that they call those who are speaking out against the airing of Michael Sams kiss as “Racist”. It has nothing to do with race and we are not “Homophobes”. Phobia is a fear of something and we do not have a fear of the gay lifestyle, we feel that it’s immoral. Secondly as others have pointed out this is still America and we still have the right to express out opinion. Tebo gets bashed and Sam is the poster child for freedom of expression? I’m not seeing it that way.

    • PT10

      I personally have a fear of any effort to indoctrinate a behavior that kills. That behavior should be feared because it causes lots of health issues and then early death. No one in their right mind would attempt to promote it as anything but dangerous.

      • Guest

        What behavior? Homosexuality causes health issues and an early death? Your are an ignorant F-tard.

        • PT10

          Tell that to the doctors I work for. LOL

    • Marisha1622

      I agree, I would not call my aversion for the gay lifestyle as homophobia, it is a wrong term. It would be more accurate to call it homoaversion or homogrossness 🙂 I am in no way afraid of their disgusting lifestyle. Oh homedisgusted would be a good word too. All mean the same…the whole dang thing is gross!

      • Dan Heizinger

        By contextual definition, phobias are listed in various sychiatric journals. Funnily enough, homophobia is not listed because its not a thing. Its made up.

        • Marisha1622

          Even better, I’m going to make up my own word then, homophobia just doesn’t cut it for me 🙂 Homogetthatgrossshitoutofmyface

      • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

        That`s because your head is stuck in the bedroom, and you`re not willing to see that gay people have relationships beyond “the sheets”! It`s not all about sex! The sex is what you heterosexuals are fixated on……not reality! I fear a person with misguided perceptions far more than a homosexual!

        • Marisha1622

          Oh yeah, forgot about the parties, drugs, alcohol, depression, emotional turmoil, confusion, warped thinking, irrational behaviour, STD’s, anal fissures, suicide and empty relationships. It’s just a destructive lifestyle all around, so I really don’t care what you’re talking about. It’s unnatural, and a sexual deviation. And you speak as if heterosexual people are the abnormal ones, proves the warped thinking right there.

          • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

            You have so much hate in your heart, IMO, you sound like you`re coming from your own negative experience (s), and projecting them onto others. The majority of your comments are so ridded with hate & venom…. it`s obvious you`ve been emotionally abused by someone close to you! Reread your comments, and spend some time reflecting, and try to do some inner work (release the negativity)……you`re like a locomotive with no end in sight!

          • Marisha1622

            What you call hate and venom, is what I call reality. Go ahead and tell me that none of that happens. I forgot to add orgies, pedophelia, older gay men preying on young pre-pubescent boys. Harvey Milk was a child molester. It doesn’t take much research. The gay population is very low but kinda funny how most cases of anal fissures are on homosexual men. You know why, because ur anus is not meant to be used for intercourse. BTW you can thank your hero Dan Savage for my negative opinion of homosexual activists. He is a vile and disgusting man. If all homosexuals are like him, you guys are not going to go far, because he incites hate. He doesn’t want to be respected or accepted, he wants to pick a fight. A lot of people will take him up on that too.

            I’m done with you, you’ve been getting personal from the get go, when you know nothing of me nor did I ever get personal on you. So go play in the middle of the street somewhere.

  • Samoht Sartaig

    Kushnir as Eric Cartman: “Screw you guys, I’m going home!”

  • Kenneth R. Travitz

    I’m sure I’ll be labeled “homophobic” for my comment. Truth is two
    men , two women kissing feeling each other off makes my stomach churn.
    They say these people are”Gay”. Why take a word that was meant to
    express joy, happiness and warmheartedness and pervert it ? They were
    referred to as “Queer” til the last part of the 1900’s. Queer, meaning
    odd, strange, different, out of place. As far as being normal people
    being called “homophobic”, It occurs to me the queer ones are actually
    “Hetero-phobic”. Now as for kissing and groping each other in
    public it’s to provoke the normal people to comment. As a citizen of a
    country that says cursing, pornography, and flag burning are freedoms of
    speech I’m being told to speak out against homosexuality is forbidden, or racist!!! Laws can be and are wrong when they uplift perverted morality
    and shoved down the throats of decent people. The Bible tells us in the
    end times wrong will be seen as right and right will be seen as wrong.
    People , take a close look around you, that day and age has arrived.

    • Bob Rtarp

      please leave that evil book of nonsense out of the argument it dumbs it down.

      • Kenneth R. Travitz

        Once again someone wishes to censor my freedom of speech. Thank you Bob for proving my point. Have a blessed day, Sir.

        • Bob Rtarp

          nobody tried to censor you, I am judging you and expressing my opinion on your evil beliefs.

          • PT10

            And you are free to do so Bob. See how easy that is. LOL

          • Bob Rtarp

            yes and that is the point.

          • PT10

            Rant on Bob. We still find you disgusting.

      • Beedogs

        Liberals sure hate freedom of speech.

      • PT10

        Bob, there’s nothing dumber than a homo.

        • Bob Rtarp

          actually homos are very intelligent, compassionate people.

          • PT10

            It’s not very intelligent to play in the rectum. We teach our young children not to do that and to wash after using the bathroom. Your definition of intelligence is lacking in judgement.

          • Bob Rtarp

            lesbians don’t play in the rectum. are they ok?

          • PT10

            Lesbians are man-haters and they do play in the rectum. Ask a psychologist… LOL

          • Bob Rtarp

            no they don’t , they have vaginas. do you know any lesbians? I know quite a few and they aren’t man haters (like that means anything) and they don’t like anal sex. maybe some do but there are plenty of heterosexuals who like anal sex as well.
            So what. your just a bit dumb and a bit mean, doesn’t surprise me as you claim to follow that book of evil.

          • PT10

            Yes, I do… I know plenty. I work for a psychologist.

          • Lee Ames

            If you go to Adult Friend Finder, you will see a lot of heterosexual people who like anal sex. Because some people believe in sex for pleasure and whatever feels good, do it! Don’t you feel better after a good orgasm? And sex is a great way to lose weight, is good for the heart, and just plain feels good.

          • PT10

            Orgasms don’t emanate from the rectum. Only the vagina can be sexually stimulated and becomes lubricated prior to sex. The rectum does not. It was meant only for one purpose and that was defecation. Sex does not involve a part of our digestive system. Just because there are certain females who allow themselves to be sodomized, it doesn’t mean it’s healthy or normal.

        • Lee Ames

          You do understand that you are a homo too, correct? You Homosapien, you. LOL

          • PT10

            Homosexual and homosapien are two different things….silly person.

          • Lee Ames

            You are right, but you just said “homo”…. LOL How was I suppose to know what syntax you were using.

          • PT10

            Homo is what we all call the pervs and you know it.

    • Lee Ames

      But we can not have laws based on your personal mythical beliefs. Blue laws and Sharia laws are one of the same, laws based on a religious belief. Some people like to shove religious beliefs down the throats of others, and history has proven that time and time again. And people have been predicting the end of the earth for centuries and yet we are still here. I guess if a planet killing meteor was to collide with Earth, some people would say it is some god’s will…. When it is just nature as the Earth has been hit by them before. LOL

      • Robin Renee

        Sharia and Blue laws are NOT one in the same. Blue laws is that alcohol cannot be sold on a certain day, Sharia goes into more depraved depth. Never compare the two.

        • Lee Ames

          Some of these laws still restrict the ability to buy cars, groceries, office
          supplies and housewares among other things. Though most of these laws have been relaxed or repealed in most states, they are still strictly enforced in some other states. Some states still prohibit hunting in various degrees on Sundays. Blue laws may also prohibit retail activity on days other than Sunday. In Massachusetts, Rhode Island,
          and Maine, for example, blue laws dating to the Puritans
          of the 17th century still prohibit most retail stores, including grocery
          stores, from opening on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

  • merelyashadow

    He’s a football player. Why is his sexual preference even at issue? Why do we have to know this? What benefit is it for anyone to have to know about it? Same with the heteros. Why do we have to know anything about their sexual lives, one way or another? Wish they’d keep it to themselves and just play football.

    • SkyBill40

      Exactly. I don’t care about which side of the “fence” you stand on. Play the game. That’s all. Keep your sexual preference stuff where it belongs – AT HOME. It’s great that Michael Sam came out and everything and he’s free to live without hiding any longer, but the media spectacle that went along with it was totally unnecessary.

      • PT10

        I don’t believe a man and woman should have to hide their sexuality. Our society exists because of sexual contact between men and women, not two women or two men. A kiss between a male and female is the norm. Children see their parents do it all the time. They don’t see the abnormal, filthy acts that people of the same sex force on us. Hence, the difference.

        • SkyBill40

          My point is that it doesn’t need to be aired on live TV and that had Michael Sam not made his announcement, this never would have aired in the first place as it would not have been newsworthy. As it is, Sam is lucky to have been drafted at all seeing that his combine figures were terrible and that’s what teams are more interested in: HIS ABILITY TO PLAY THE GAME.

          And while some of society is all about acceptance of those who favor sexual practices outside of what’s been long seen as the norm, that doesn’t mean that everyone wants to see it. Again, it’s great he’s made his choice to live free and I accept him for who he chooses to be… but that doesn’t mean I want to watch it.

      • Lee Ames

        Then the blame is on the media not the couple who was kissing.

        • alaskan59

          Actually a good point! (Don’t get me wrong, I do not side with the LBGT community for the most part,) They were celebrating & the cameras rolled, for sensationalism..

        • lvmyshiba@yahoo.com Denise Ear

          Bingo!!

    • Les K

      For the record, I’m just stating why it’s an issue, not that I agree with it. (I didn’t want to see it.)

      It is an issue the same way it’s an issue about women moving up in business. It’s a glass ceiling. There is some idiotic idea that just because a person is gay they can’t succeed, so every time one of them does something someone considers significant, they run with it and make a big deal out of it.

      Honestly, getting picked 249th on the 7th round to me who is not a sports person is not all that impressive. Were he #1 on the first day? Maybe. But this is not impressive to me.

    • W900A

      If you hold a press conference that you are heterosexual and only have sex with the opposite gender, the kkgay will attack you and call you a bigot. Because you made a public statement out of it, they will think you are mocking them. Why do they feel like they need to tell everyone?

  • disqus_GYXQ8Ms8Zk

    Good for the two women sitting in the middle for standing up for their morals and how everything has gotten so one sided in society today thanks to liberal media jacking everything around and not showing the true news on most everything shown.

  • PT10

    Football programming will no longer be allowed in our home. Even my husband said he’s done watching it.

    • 1972patriot

      That is how it is done. Shut down every vehicle the left uses to transport their ideology by not watching, attending or supporting them in any way. Identify and starve them.

  • Patti Nevin

    she should go to Fox News or to the 700 club!

  • ltb01

    Like most liberals, I don’t think the ditsy blond knows what “racist” means. NOT APPROVING OF HOMOSEXUALITY DOES NOT MAKE YOU RACIST.

    • Noneedtoknow

      That caught my ear right away as well…. I felt brain cells commit suicide…

    • Lee Ames

      No, but it still make you a bigot. And being a bigot is about hating someone or a group of people who you deem are too different from you. Hatred is hatred, no matter who it is against and that is wrong. ALL humans, regardless of who they are or who they love, have the natural right to be treated equally. Yes, you have the right not to agree with them. I do not agree with the asshats from Westboro Baptist Church protesting military funerals but I will defend to the death their right to continue to do so. We can not pick and choose personal liberties and freedoms for any person or group of people. That is not what a free society should be doing. Just because YOUR belief system says something is immoral does not make it immoral. Some people enjoy sex for the pleasure, but some people believe sex is only for having children. And yet, both groups are correct. My thing is that we have a double standard in that, as per the current status quo, heterosexual couples kissing in public is ok, but not a homosexual couple. This is based only on personal beliefs and how one was brought up. If someone was brought up in a strict religious environment, they will have a different opinion than someone who was allowed to think more freely and for themselves.

      • PT10

        ” Just because YOUR belief system says something is immoral does not make it immoral.”

        So…… who gets to decide what “belief system” we ALL should follow so that we can all be on the same page?? What is someone’s “belief system” allows for rape of a wife? If that’s this person’s “belief system” who are you to tell them they are moral or immoral? That’s why we have a higher power and don’t rely on mere mortals to make those decisions for us because we’d all have our own “belief system” according to how we wished to live. Being homosexual is not a personal belief. It’s a belief based on God’s laws, not some mere mortal man. There’s a big difference.

        • Lee Ames

          Does raping someone infringe on someone’s right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?

          • PT10

            Not if they enjoy it. Some women enjoy being “raped” so who gets to differentiate between those who enjoy it and those whose rights are being infringed upon. Rape is rape and should not be condoned, even if there are a few who may enjoy it. Homosexuality is still sick and perverted regardless of those who believe it is not.

          • jmdsc1 .

            YES Lee Ames: rapists DO infringe on the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of their victims and their families.

      • PT10

        Hey Lee…what do you say about pedophiles?? Should we love them and treat them equally because they have the right to “love” children? Hatred is hatred right??? Isn’t that what you said. In other words, we shouldn’t “hate” anything. I wonder if pedophiles have a “belief system” that we should respect and honor. I don’t have to agree but I do have to treat them equally…right??? LOL You’re a piece of work or very immature.

        • kikz2

          i’ll add stone cold killers to that list well, PT10.

        • Dan Heizinger

          Dont try to reason with nutty libs

          • Lee Ames

            I do not belong to any political party. I am a freethinker: A
            philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth
            should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather
            than authority, tradition, or other dogmas.

        • Lee Ames

          Do pedophiles infringe on the rights of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of others?

          • jmdsc1 .

            YES Lee Ames: pedophiles DO infringe on the rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of their victims and their families.

          • Lee Ames

            Then that is your answer. Anyone who infringes on the rights of others is in the wrong. Not to hard to understand, is it.

          • jmdsc1 .

            The difference is that a rapist or pedophile commits a crime. Expressing ones thoughts is not a crime (or at least not a written one). If someone feels that their rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is infringed by another’s words, then I submit that the problem lies within the “offended” ones psyche and is their own problem. In other words: time to pull on your big girl panties and move on!

      • kikz2

        In a ‘free society’…………’bigotry’ as you call it, is a personal issue/problem unless, and only if, it violates standing laws of civil rights, property rights, or persons. End of discussion, grow the FU.

        However, I am old school, and you don’t bother people when they’re putting people in the ground. WB nutters should’ve been arrested en masse for being a public nuisance, and violating the freedom of association and assembly rights of funeral attendees. special interest politics and it’s obnoxious and intrusive display does not trump the natural right to be left alone while performing burial rites for loved ones.

        • Lee Ames

          And I agree with you about the WBC as I am a veteran, but people in a free society, we can not pick and chose who gets to have certain rights and who doesn’t. If we stop one group from practicing their natural rights of free speech (or any natural freedoms we all have) then where do we draw the line? Should we ban people from protesting against giving big corporations subsidies? Should we ban people from protesting against big government? Where do we draw the line?

      • Dan Heizinger

        “they will have a different opinion than someone who was allowed to think more freely and for themselves.” You mean someone indoctrinated by pedophile teachers and left wing media personalities. Yeah, that’s thinking for yourself. You do realize every civilization has developed a natural aversion to homosex. It takes indoctrination to make it normal, which is why it is only considered normal in about 15% of the world’s nations.

  • Brian Sprouse

    That stupid twit doesn’t even know the difference between homophobia and racism.

  • Denise Van de Loo

    Those women on each end were bullies, plain and simple!

  • ron44

    Homophobe is a made up word used by the PC police and racism is not even close to this in any way..private conversations are private..no one needs to watch sexual exploitation media.

  • pamela alston

    what utter crap…im with the ladies in the middle…..we are losing all our rights,cannot do free speech any more…without being labelled a racist…

  • Greg B

    As Christian’s people are trying to raise their children by the word in the bible. When children see adults doing what the bible says is a sin, that causes confusion. As Christian parents, it is our fundamental right to restrict what our children are exposed to, but ESPN took that right away. No one watching ESPN would have thought that this is what they would have seen, as this is a sports channel. I am not saying that the kiss was right or wrong, I’m saying that in the bible homosexuality is a sin. It is not up to anyone to judge ANYONE, we all have our own sin to worry about and these women were not judging Michael Sam but they were being judged for expressing their beliefs. I completely understand where these women were coming from in defending their beliefs. Neither one of the women, who are voicing their dislike of showing the kiss, came off as being hateful or judgmental, they just expressed that they didn’t want to see it, and were attacked by people who cannot let others have their own opinion without trying to force their own opinions down everyone’s throat. The one thing my eyes have been opened to is that there are two types of people in this world, those who believe that everyone has their right to their own opinion and the ability to voice their opinion, and then there are those who have their opinion, and believe that anyone whose opinion doesn’t match their opinion, is wrong and therefore they think they must change the mind, or ridicule the person for their opinion.

  • Carolyn Wheeler

    I don’t watch them for this reason, if one has an opinion that person believes she is right and they should all nod their heads in unison. Doesn’t matter if one is right and the other is wrong, who should decide. All they do is sit up there and argue.

  • dan3333333333

    The women on the left (in white) is the only problem that I can see!

  • Scott Corrigan

    She missed a great opportunity to say, “Well, if anything goes, then what’s the big deal about Tebow taking a knee?”

  • Pete Cox

    I shouldn’t have to explain to my 12yr old why they are kissing.He does that in his home,Fine.I don’t want it in MY home on MY tv.You have Your RIGHT to think it’s Normal but in MY home it’s NOT normal for two men to kiss.My whole problem with the GAY MAFIA is them FORCING their view on my belief,and I’m not religious,I’m just a person with a different view.And Gay ISN’T a race.People need to pull out a dictionary.Just sayin!

  • Leonard Earl Rose

    Liberal censorship,it’s real and it’s disgusting! The liberals say it,and to them it becomes true,but not to me!

  • william

    oh the joy to be able to take the two outside ones and slam their heads together

  • kikz2

    outta my face….. so simple. 🙂 gold clap. personal choice. i think the older lady should’ve joined her.

    the two stepford’s are yammering racism? i know this is no mensa panel.. but come on y’all……. eyeroll….

  • greatgrandmasue

    Was the left side blond was a porn star?

  • Jo Anymouse

    LGBT keeps asking that “what goes on in the bedroom” should NOT impact their rights to jobs, housing, etc. All others are asking is to “keep it in the bedroom” and NOT make a spectacle out of every incident or moment !!
    If you think that kiss was bad on TV, wait until the season starts !!!
    Sam will complain he was blocked below the belt because he is gay !
    Centers will complain of being groped by QBs!
    Cheerleaders attire will definitely change! Rainbow colors, of course! Or male cheerleaders with large packages!

    This is just the beginning of the end of football as we know it!

    • PT10

      And that’s exactly why were done with it….

    • Lee Ames

      Please tell me my future now oh wise one….. LOL

  • greatgrandmasue

    I agree. Too much gay sex on TV these days. Every channel. Every sitcom. Boring. Don’t like it flashed in my living room without the chance to X it off the TV.

  • HarryTheCat

    I can’t believe how the NFL Network, ESPN and others were breathlessly awaiting that “magical moment” when Michael Sam would (finally) be drafted by some team. If you watched these networks you’d think they were awaiting the selection of a new Pope or the birth of an heir to the throne. Please, folks. The guy is a late 7th round draft choice, and his chances of making the team are slim to none. His only claim to fame is his deviant lifestyle choice. He’s about as capable of playing in the NFL as I would be to be to pilot the first manned flight to Mars. At least his fifteen minutes of fame will be up soon and we won’t have to witness any more of this in-your-face nonsense.

  • KaimiKalihi

    classic example of intolerance of liberal thinking when a person has the absolute right to disagree or not prefer to think like the other. The double triple standard is over board obvious and yes ESPN, this was an opportunity to make news. Sam’s says his preference was private but them proceeds to make it public and opportunistic. Guess what, based on his size and stats of his college career (not one season) but career he was already projected to in the 5th round. A real story that ESPN isn’t doing is about the Eagles signing an undrafted player Villanueva who spent 3 years in the armed forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s a news worthy story.

  • Arlene P. Jones

    This is why the group of women needs a Black Face to tell them point blank–IT IS NOT RACIST TO BE HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT TWO MEN KISSING! Why did the dumbest one in the bunch get to make anyone walk off the set? She wouldn’t know racism if it walked up and slapped her!

    • pamdix

      The point isn’t that he’s black, the point is that he used this moment to show the world that he was gay. He used it to promote himself, otherwise he would have just been another mediocre player. The woman is tired, just like a lot of us, of having the gay agenda drooled over on TV, the papers, and the internet. Do you go up to anyone and ask them first question, “Are you gay?” No, you don’t. But they introduce themselves that way like it’s who they are. If that’s all they are, I pity them.

  • winadams

    I don’t want to see it either and I don’t mind saying that. Don’t care who does or does not like it.

  • mike

    its getting so if u dont believe what they want u t0 believe in u racist,im sick of the whole dang bunch of em!i still got freedom of speach ,i think?i sgree with Marianne keep your business to u self

  • Matthew Carter Sandlin

    Like it or not. A large portion of poeple just don’t believe or condone in same sex couples. The more soical media insists on craming it down our collective throats the worse the opinions of same sex couples will get. So get it over it. They are entitled to thier beliefs just like same sex couples. News flash, I may not like you for a multitude of reasons, my right. I dont’ have to think the way you do. I don’t have to support how you think. And if you can insist on shoving your moralistic views down my throat, I can shove my GOD faithed based moralistic opinon down yours.

  • mike

    im also done with waisting my time and money with football!!!

  • DanaLanders

    I agree 1,0000% with that female host. It DOES NOT NEED TO BE SHOVED IN OUR FACES ALL THE TIME!!!!! For those of us with morals, such behavior is sinful and just plain wrong! For those of you who have no morals, I pity you on Judgement Day…

  • Dan Heizinger

    Unfortunately, all people who still have morals must be attacked 24/7

  • Amy

    The two on each end represent the fall of the United States…..they have been brainwashed into thinking whatever a person does is acceptable, and we all need to be ok with it. That gal on the far left……..oh brother……what an airhead. If I had been sitting there, it would have been all I could do to have kept from shoving her off her chair. I’m with the two gals in the middle. I’m sick of it too, and I’m tired of people not being able to express how they feel and being persecuted for it if it offends someone.

    • mark radcliff

      Notice the article didn’t give the names of the other 2 co-hosts…? I would like to slam the one who did the slandering.

  • Tamara Glass Maddux

    Someone needs to explain to everyone that this is still a country where
    free speech is accepted and that not everyone’s opinion is the same. No
    one’s opinion is right or wrong. How can she sit there and badger the
    lady to the point she felt she had no option but to leave? Real class
    there lady!!!

  • missionkarate

    All these posts are missing the point. The host has the right to voice her opinion. If you do or don’t agree is also your right. If you want to disagree, go ahead. But, attacking a person when they say something against a race or a lifestyle is BS. If you want to argue, so talk to a brick.

  • John Ely

    Why is any expression of affection between gay couples “in your face”? The people that say that would not object in the slightest if Johnny Manziel kissed a girl when he was drafted. “In your face” is screwing your girl on camera, or parading down the street with a feather duster in your ass while carrying a flashing “GAY PRIDE” sign.

    And it is slander to criticize her opinion? The one expressed her opinion, and the other gave her opinion of the opinion. What is slanderous about that?

    • jmdsc1 .

      In your face is the obvious live coverage of a 7th round draft choice. No other 7th rounders were covered. Are you trying to say he was being covered for any other reason than his choice of sexuality?

      • fairmindedindc

        It was covered because it’s historic. People would have said it was “in your face” if he was drafted in the first round too. It doesn’t matter the circumstance, bigoted people are going to complain.

        • jmdsc1 .

          Newsflash – he is not the first man to choose a homosexual lifestyle and play in the NFL. He is the first that decided to make it everyone else’s business. That is the only reason it was covered, which in itself makes the entire reporting scenario bigoted. As long as you are going to call others bigoted, look in the mirror.

          • fairmindedindc

            Newsflash – He was the first openly gay person to ever be drafted into a major American sports league. It was historic. THAT is why it was covered by the news media. There is nothing bigoted about that, and to suggest otherwise absurd. As for needing a mirror, I think you are in far greater need of one than I.

  • Dana F. Davis

    I don’t want to watch kiss; my wife doesn’t want to see them kiss. My father, my mother, my in laws – none of them want to see them kiss. In short, stay out of my living room!

  • Dana F. Davis

    Well first of all neither one of of these old gay broads should be dressed like that. They’re just not all that. And taking on granny, that’s a serious mistake. You know, hetero males are starting to get really tired of all this pseudo “love because media pays me” air-headedness, too.

  • jmdsc1 .

    oh let’s be honest here people. This was NOTHING but a shock-in-your-face moment for ESPN. Never do 7th round draft choices get live TV coverage, they rarely get mentioned except for on the final listing. This was nothing less than a way to make people angry and for the ones that liked it, it was a new improved reason to be intolerant of people that feel that it wasn’t right.

    BTW – unless the LGBT has been declared a race (last time I checked it hadn’t), let’s stop calling people racist for disagreeing with them.

    • fairmindedindc

      Are you really that dim? Of course the coverage was there because he is the first openly gay person drafted by a pro team. The fact that it was a 7th round pick is irrelevant. So ESPN was naturally there and MS was naturally overwhelmed, as many other young men are, at being drafted. He cried and kissed loved ones as many other young men have. So what’s the problem? What’s unusual? Oh, that’s right, gay people are supposed to pretend to be straight and conform their behavior so not to make some straight people uncomfortable. Well, guess what, those days are rapidly ending. You don’t like it? To, —ing bad.

      But you you are right, “racist” is the wrong term. Try bigoted, ignorant, homophobes. Glad we cleared that up.

      • PT10

        LOL

  • kevinh5

    Right, so my white male heterosexual preferences shouldn’t be a reason for my dismissal either! Expressing that it makes my stomach turn to see two men, or two women doing something un-natural and offensive to me as a vital male shouldn’t be subject to discrimination against me either! I put up with racial slurs from Mexicans while working in Restaurants and Cabinet Shops for 35 years, we even had one black man at a union shop I worked at, who was paid more than me to do nothing as skilled as I did (union token)! I am sick of the double standard of race, and genders, or perverted genders. Sticks and stones! I have my right to FREE speech as much as any of you dark skinned, feminist, or gay individuals! If you are a lazy, pervert parasite it is my right to say it anywhere I want without worrying about corporate repercussions!

    • fairmindedindc

      So you have the right to spew your ignorant bigoted trash, but a business doesn’t have the right to react to that behavior? Sorry, but they do have the right to react and fire you if they want.

      • Guest

        What do you think affirmative action has been to White Heterosexual Males for as long as it has been in existence; but a license to spew bigoted things about white males, and exclude them from work because racism, feminism, and the rest the isms?
        I have the right to free speech and to protect myself from so called minorities or even religious fanatics in the work place, the same as anyone else! I am now a minority in Southern California. Where are the bleeding heart liberals with my affirmative action!
        Were you in my shoes working in Kitchens and Cabinet sweat shops listening to conniving gays, women, and bark skins constantly calling me repulsive things for 20 years of my working life? Shut your pie hole unless you walked in my shoes! Sticks and stones!

      • kevinh5

        What do you think affirmative action has been to White Heterosexual Males for as long as it has been in existence; but a license to spew bigoted things about white males, and exclude them from work because racism, feminism, and the rest the isms?
        I have the right to free speech and to protect myself from so called minorities or even religious fanatics in the work place, the same as anyone else! I am now a minority in Southern California. Where are the bleeding heart liberals with my affirmative action!
        Were you in my shoes working in Kitchens and Cabinet sweat shops listening to conniving gays, women, and dark skins constantly calling me repulsive things for 20 years of my working life? Shut your pie hole unless you walked in my shoes!
        Sticks and stones, words didn’t detour me!

      • kevinh5

        What do you think affirmative action has been to White Heterosexual Males for as long as it has been in existence; but a license to spew bigoted things about white males, and exclude them from work because racism, feminism, and the rest the isms?
        I have the right to free speech and to protect myself from so called minorities, or even religious fanatics in the work place; the same as anyone else! I am now a minority in Southern California. Where are the bleeding heart liberals with my affirmative action!
        Were you in my shoes working in Kitchens and Cabinet sweat shops listening to conniving gays, women, and dark skins constantly calling me repulsive things for 20 years of my working life? Shut your pie hole unless you walked in my shoes! Sticks and stones, and words never detoured me!
        This is about destroying free speech by the left so that only the left have the right to define what the society thinks!

      • PT10

        When businesses can only hire queers and they’re sick all the time, they will change their tune.

  • Sabo Jeff

    I have stopped watching and that appears to be the whole idea by the leftists. Get them all to quit watching and then they have no input any longer. Just like folks feel they have no voice in government any longer as neither party represents them so they quit voting.

  • David Triana

    This “discussion” only happens in america. Not happening in saudi I guarantee it. We are the ONLY country where this is an ISSUE. And Yes, This is one of the many reason they hate us.

  • 2Texayn

    Amy is absolutely Correct. The issue is not whether or not Sam has the right to be provocative or not. However, salacious, capricious reporting is irresponsible during hours when families are likely watching TV. At least a couple of the younger women on “The Broadcast” appear to be victims of the dumbed down educational system Carl Sagan spoke about.

  • Dale Cannada

    Bye

  • Soul Harvester05

    Why the hell does it matter to you Amy Kushnir? If you dont like it change the freaking channel. Im a completely straight man, with a fiancee I love, because that’s what I enjoy. You don’t see me throwing a fit about someone elses personal preference? I’m sure there are tons of people that can’t stand seeing Amy Kushnir’s dumb, gaudy, completely fake ass on tv, and i’m sure they change the channel and move on with their lives. Get over it, you just can’t accept that your opinion doesn’t govern the lives of other people that have different views than you.

  • adoremeorelse

    That’s just as racist? Over-use of the “R” word again.

  • John Grey

    Who wants to see two men kiss? It is discussing to anyone who has normal feelings and anyone who says different is just suppressing his own natural feelings to make himself feel good in the eyes of liberalism, or because he thinks it’s “cool.”

  • fairmindedindc

    Of course ESPN was there because he is the first openly gay person drafted by a pro team. That is big news in our sports-obsessed society. The fact that it was a 7th round pick is irrelevant. So ESPN was naturally there and MS was naturally overwhelmed, as many other young men are, at being drafted. He cried and kissed a loved one as many other young men have in every draft. So what’s the problem? What’s unusual? Oh, that’s right, he’s gay. Gay people are supposed to pretend to be straight and conform their behavior so not to make some straight people uncomfortable. Well, guess what, those days are rapidly ending. You don’t like it? To, —ing bad.

    • Sean McMahon

      People are not only over it but sick of it.

      • fairmindedindc

        Well, guess what, gay people and right-thinking, fair-minded, straights are sick of the discrimination and repression that gay people have suffered for hundreds of years.

        If you or your child had to grow up as a gay person, you would understand how unfair, hurtful, and difficult it is. You would want yourself or your child to be treated equally.

        Try and show some empathy and understanding before being so harsh and judgemental.

        • PT10

          Boo hoo….Queer people don’t have to suffer humiliation/repression by simply keeping their mouths shut about their nasty behavior. We don’t want to hear about it and if we have to, you will hear how we feel about it. We don’t grow up homosexual. We grow up to be adult males or females and we choose our sexual behavior. I would expect to be treated harshly by a majority who finds my behavior immoral and disgusting if I chose to tell people about my sick behavior.. No empathy here. You choose your behavior. I judge it harshly.

          • fairmindedindc

            Your ignorance and hate clearly knows no bounds. How sad and pathetic.

          • PT10

            Your ignorance of the workings of the human anatomy and hatred for all that is normal and healthy knows no bounds. How sad and pathetic for you and any children you may influence.

          • fairmindedindc

            LOL, you are even stupider than I first believed.

            Gay people don’t give a damn what you “think” about them, they care about that the law treats them equally, so your ignorant comments about human anatomy are irrelevant. Do you really think we make laws based on sexual positions and activities consenting adults enjoy? Really, are you f’ing serious? LOL Don’t you realize that a decent percentage of heterosexuals do basically everything that gay people do? Hello? Not that what people do sexually matters one wit to public policy, and public policy is all gay people really care about. We know we can’t change the ignorant views of people like you.

            As for the influence of gay people on children, the only thing gay people care about in that regard is to let children know that they are accepted and loved regardless of the their sexual orientation. That is opposed to the typical judgmental, ignorant, repressive conservative Christian view.

            And btw, I don’t “hate” what you might call “normal,” I am not the one who is trying to force people to live according to my views and morals. That would be you and people like you.

          • PT10

            Don’t you realize that anyone who allows that behavior will suffer health consequences regardless of what you choose to label them by, you silly little homosexual? Don’t you know that children who are raised with a mother and father will very quickly understand the dangers of such a vile behavior because we will make sure they do, you silly little homosexual? Don’t you know that children are smart enough to know they are neither homo or hetero but can make their own decisions regarding what sexual acts they will engage in in the future and it will not define them as who they are but what they do, you silly little homosexual? Nature decides normal, not any human you silly little homosexual.

          • fairmindedindc

            I’m sorry you are one of many who are ignorant of the facts regarding people with a homosexual orientation.

            Nothing is inherently “unhealthy” about being gay. Of course certain sexual activities carry more health risks than others, but that my dear is true regardless of the orientation of the participants, and if you haven’t checked the statistics, heterosexuals participate in anal and oral sex in high numbers.

            As for drug and psychological issues related to being gay, again this is not attributable to the state of being gay, but rather the repression, stress, and general negative issues that gay people have to deal with from the heterosexual community and specifically from people like you. I have no such problems and neither do my friends. It’s the pastor’s son who likes the alter boy, and the Christian school teacher’s daughter who likes little Suzy next door that end up having the problems, because they are often treated like dirt in their own churches and families.

            You ignorant, condescending comments not withstanding, studies and real world observation and experience tell us that children do indeed have in ingrained sexual orientation. That is why at a certain age, little Bobby and Joey suddenly find little girls to be really interesting rather than earlier when those same little girls were just kind of annoying. No one has to, nor could they, “teach” the boys to have romantic interest in the girls, it just happens. The same is true with gay kids. It happened to me.

            Please refrain from being so hateful and judgmental, especially about things you are so misinformed about.

          • peasporridgehot
          • fairmindedindc

            It’s truly pointless to have anything close to a dialogue with people like you, because 1. You are ignorant of facts, 2. You have a completely closed mind, 3. When confronted with truth that proves you wrong, you ignore it and change to attach on another front, 4. You demonstrate little ability to think in a critical, and/or logical manner.

            Your post of health statistics doesn’t disprove my points from my last post, but you seem to be blind to this or perhaps to stupid to realize your “rebuttal” is worthless.

            See if you can understand this: Two healthy adult men who are homosexual have sex. They are no more likely to get an STD then are heterosexuals. One’s orientation, and sexual acts – if handled properly – , in and of themselves do not create disease. Don’t forget, in Africa, HIV is mostly a heterosexual issue. Viruses don’t know what orientation a person is.

          • peasporridgehot
          • Dan

            That gay rights activists have done these kinds of things is wrong, obviously, but your attributing it to the entire gay community is just ridiculous. It’s like you’re arguing that black people should have to sit at the back of the bus because a couple of black panthers showed up to intimidate voters, or for that matter that small government conservatives are evil because Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building. Every ideology has its crazy people who take things too far. You people just cling to these stories of gay rights activists who crossed the line because you can’t produce a single rational argument against the *actual* goals and views of the gay rights movement.

          • peasporridgehot

            Wow, way to go, spewing a whole lot of nonsense and ridiculousness into the conversation. I said absolutely NONE of what you’re attesting, which means there is nothing to respond to.

          • Dan

            You keep thinking that.

          • Dan

            No, you did not specifically say those things. You do, however seem intent on arguing against gay rights by pointing to cases where people who support gay rights have taken things too far. You’ve also taken the enlightened position of explaining what people who are not you “actually” think and want. So basically your arguments involve changing the subject and creating strawmen to knock down.

          • peasporridgehot

            Oh that you could actually read your words with an objective viewpoint. The strawman, my friend, is apparently your area of expertise.

          • Dan

            Yes, it would seem that I have a greater understanding of logical fallacies, else I would assume you’d actually make specific reference to some of mine, rather than simply claiming they exist.

          • fairmindedindc

            Dan,
            If a small hotel owner didn’t want to rent a room to an interracial couple because of his beliefs from the Bible, are you saying that that couple is wrong to sue because of discrimination? There are many things that ignorant, bigoted business owners could discriminate on the basis of, while claiming its because of their religious faith. Are the people subject to such discrimination supposed to just shut up and take it?

            My goodness, some conservative Christians get “outraged” because they are simply told they can’t say Merry Christmas to customers. Talk about over sensitivity.

            Thankfully, I agree with your overall point that it is wrong to tar a whole group based on the actions of a few.

          • Dan

            I think there’s sort of a distinction to be made between discrimination that actually creates problems for people and discrimination that is merely offensive. As a gay man I don’t think I’d really want a wedding cake made by somebody who thinks homosexuality is a sin – suing the baker who refuses to isn’t about being deprived of something, it’s just suing because the baker has an offensive belief. I obviously don’t agree with the baker’s views, but trying to drive people out of business merely for holding those views makes the gay rights movement look petty and does nobody any good.

          • fairmindedindc

            In a sense I agree with you, but I do believe the principals are worth fighting for. If I were those gay customers, I don’t think I would just look the other way and let these folks get away with that type of discrimination.

          • Dan

            It’s sort of a gray area to me, really. I just tend to err on the side of diplomacy.

          • fairmindedindc

            I’m sorry that your friends lost their business, but the fact remains that businesses that serve the public cannot discriminate portions of the public they don’t like or approve of. It’s that simple. No one is forcing your friends to change their views; they can believe whatever they want as individuals, but the business cannot discriminate. If your friends don’t want to marry someone of the same gender, they don’t have to. You are conflating “individual” rights with the public responsibilities of a business. They are two totally different things. If not, then the owners of the lunch counters in the south never would have had to serve blacks or at least interracial couples. Try and get past your anger and dislike of gay people and think a bit more objectively.

        • peasporridgehot

          Like you show empathy and understanding for my friends whose lives were destroyed by gays? That wasn’t unfair, hurtful, and difficult? They were treated equally? Where is the empathy and understanding for my friends? You are a complete hypocrite and liar.

  • Brad Short

    They need to tell that bitch on the left to shut the hell up. She’s completely rude, and apparently she doesn’t own a dictionary.

  • NYCBullDog

    Here she is showing off her “family values”. Hypocritical hag. http://goo.gl/Z0tX5J

    • Ferrish Thefish

      And did she broadcast these things to children? Sure, her behavior in that picture is pretty disgusting. But when I conceived my children by having sex with my wife, that was even more disgusting behavior (we don’t have pics or vids, so just take my word for it). Does that mean I am not allowed to criticize people for drinking or cursing in front of my children, just because I have had sex with my wife in the past? (not in front of children, btw). Inappropriate behaviors are held to a different metric when they are in front of children, and it’s not even remotely hypocritical to treat them as such.

  • PT10

    Children grow up to be adults who make dangerous and immoral decisions. I would want my children to live and be healthy and normal. I taught mine right. They know you people are sick and crazy.

  • PT10

    No….people are people (male or female). Sexual habits are behaviors. He should pretend to be normal so children won’t have to witness his perversion and parents won’t have to explain to their children there are crazy people in this world to be wary of. It will never end. We will just make sure our children remain very afraid of you freaks.

  • kevinh5

    This is about destroying free speech by the left so that only the left have the right to define what the society thinks!
    What do you think affirmative action has been to White Heterosexual Males for as long as it has been in existence; but a license to spew bigoted things about white males, and exclude them from work because racism, feminism, and the rest the isms?
    I have the right to free speech and to protect myself from so called minorities, or even religious fanatics in the work place; the same as anyone else! I am now a minority in Southern California. Where are the bleeding heart liberals with my affirmative action!
    Were you in my shoes working in Kitchens and Cabinet sweat shops listening to conniving gays, women, and dark skins constantly calling me repulsive things for 20 years of my working life? Shut your pie hole unless you walked in my shoes! Sticks and stones, and words never detoured me!
    If you want to make a display in public you then you should be ready for the wrath of public opinion form both sides, but as you can see here the left thinks it is their exclusive right! I applaud this woman for standing up for traditional values and morals!

  • Shawna Brewer

    What ever,

    The two women in the middle are closet racists…. Justifying Donald Sterlings comments.which are unjustifiable in his.home.or.in public… For one it shows that racism still exists, and that homophobia is at the root of this conversation.

    Drafts picks usually.celebrate with their model girlfriends or wives or mothers… etc.

    Their whole line.of.well I dont want to see it is bullshit. If Michael Sam wouldve kissed a girlfriend, no one.would have said.shit or blinked an eye.

    He shouldnt have got drafted so low and it was a first for sports and humanity in the United States in the NFL…

    Of course it should be televised…

    • PT10

      Homos are not a race and a person has the right to say whatever they want in their home, good or bad. Racism will always exist because there will always be someone who judges people for what they can’t help (skin color/race) but the fear of people who promote evil is certainly a good thing, no matter what colorful term you choose to describe them by. Godly, normal people will always be shocked to see 2 men or 2 women committing sexual acts together because the majority do not want this for their children…and your parents don’t want it for you but I can tell you’re a rebellious little irate homosexual. LOL

  • Steven Druzynski

    I guess they classified me as a racist for not posting my comment against seeing a football star kissing his guy friend, so since I am against it I have no right to post my opinion….as a veteran I am sic of what these (special interest groups) have become in our society and how easily you are brainwashed!
    What if they began saying we should be ok with a sexual relationship with an animal? There are countries that allow it and that it will be taught in your kids schools……the reaction you will have is the exact reaxtion you had to gays back 30 years ago so do you see my point?

    • fairmindedindc

      Why can’t you allow all Americans to the same rights you enjoy? Why do you feel that some consenting adult citizens need to be repressed and denigrated for doing the same things that other citizens do all the time without issue? You don’t have to agree or like what everyone else does, and you are free to voice your opinion, but you need to realize that others have the right to react to your publicly stated opinions and actions.

      Your comparison of consenting adult people with animals is insulting and absurd. Animals are not people and they cannot consent. It was ignorant to even suggest such a thing.

      The right wing bigots just refuse to accept the notion that all Americans should be treated equally.

      • PT10

        No “American” has to treat anyone equal, especially those “Americans” who behave like disgusting animals.

        • fairmindedindc

          People have to obey the law or suffer the consequences. Now that the law is finally changing to support equality of ALL, people will indeed have to treat others equally or pay the price.

          What’s disgusting is the ignorance and hate perpetuated by people like you.

          • PT10

            No law will ever tell me I have to accept the behavior these people engage in. I can avoid them as much as I want. I will gladly pay whatever price I have to to continue to avoid them. Equality will only come when all people accept this behavior as normal and that will NEVER happen. I will always hate this behavior and you or no one else will ever make me say different. What’s disgusting is this behavior and those who find it normal. If you are one, you are disgusting. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. I dare you to try to punish me. LOL

          • fairmindedindc

            You do as you please, and if you break the law you will suffer the consequences. Gay people don’t care what your personal views are, the care about being treated equally under the law.

          • PT10

            Break the law….as in telling you I think your behavior is disgusting?? LOL That’s my right and no one can take that from me. My personal views, not my actions, are what queers despise. Avoiding you is not against the law and I’m betting never will be because forced acceptance and association would never be able to be enforced. Rant on….

          • fairmindedindc

            Voicing your opinion is not breaking the law.

          • Dan

            Yes, of course “queers” despise you. You hate us for no reason you can logically explain, and you go out of your way to tell us this as much as possible. By all means avoid us. And while you’re at it, stop trying to have the government impose your views on our lives.

          • peasporridgehot

            WRONG. They care about SPECIAL rights, and they care about INDOCTRINATING our children so they don’t have to feel so guilty about the lifestyle they KNOW is wrong.
            http://clashdaily.com/2013/04/lesbo-admits-gay-agenda-is-to-radically-redefineeliminate-marriage/

          • fairmindedindc

            Wake up and watch the news. Gay people want and are getting the right to marry which will make them equal under the law. Period. If you and the other ignorant, bigoted, hateful people don’t like it, well, that’s to f’ing bad. And just because you found one person who may want something that is off the wall, doesn’t mean that represents what the millions of other gay people want.

          • peasporridgehot

            “If you and the other ignorant, bigoted, hateful people don’t like it, well, that’s to f’ing bad.”
            Thought you were leaving the name-calling to me.

          • fairmindedindc

            Ah, yes, I did say that….well, sorry, my emotions got the best of me. My bad.

            Of course that doesn’t change the fact that those labels do apply to you.

      • peasporridgehot

        Ok, so let me get this straight….so, my friends, who used to have a bakery, but made the “mistake” of “offending” a lesbian couple by refusing to bake a cake for their wedding (which was ILLEGAL in our state, BTW)….and who, by the way, had never been refused service by my friends in the past….so, because this “couple” was offended by the refusal of my friends to bake their cake…not their refusal to SERVE them, mind you, but to bake a specific cake, which they DISAGREED with…..so then, when the gay community sent them hate mail daily for months, threatened my friends with rape and death, threatened their children with death, spread vicious lies about them, threatened their suppliers until their suppliers would no longer do business with them, eventually putting them out of business…so, then, these friends, who were minding their own business, and running their own business the way they saw fit to run it, didn’t have the right to enjoy running their business…but the gay community had the right to threaten them and put them out of business…right? Is that what you’re saying? Is that the “react to your publicly stated opinions and actions” that you’re talking about here? Is this the “treated equally” thing you’re talking about? Really, please do enlighten us, since you’re so fairminded.

        • fairmindedindc

          I believe I am very fair minded, and I hope you find my response to be so.

          I believe there are two primary issues in the story above: 1. A business refusing to provide a service to a customer based on religious beliefs, and 2. reaction by some people to that refusal of service.

          In brief my response is as follows:

          1. It is rightfully against the law for a business that serves the general public to discriminate against a group of customers because of the religious faith of the business owners. If this were not the case, then religious faith could be used to justify ignoring all sorts of anti-discrimination laws, and actually many other laws as well. For example, not many years ago some white “Christians” believed the bible spoke against inter-racial marriage. By the reasoning of your friends, those folks should have been able to refuse to provide wedding cakes, hotel rooms, a hall, a reception caterer etc. to such a couple. This would be wrong, and that is why it is unlawful. There are many more examples that can demonstrate why we cannot and should not run a fair and efficient society in such a manner. In your friend’s case it doesn’t matter that they served them in other capacities because owners don’t get to pick and chose who and when it’s okay to discriminate against.

          2. The reaction to the discriminatory actions was varied. I totally abhor violence and the threats of violence. It’s outrageous and should be prosecuted if possible. I also totally oppose intimidation and the use of profanity etc. to harass people all of that is totally unacceptable. I do support boycotts, letters to the editor of papers, one-on-one dialogue, and lawsuits. While I actually feel bad that your friend’s had to endure a lot of awful behavior by some bad actors in the gay community (not the entire gay community btw), and I feel bad that they lost their business, I also have to feel bad for the millions of gay people who have been murdered, or assaulted, or harassed, taunted, bullied, ostracized, fired, and generally discriminated against by hateful individuals and sometimes society in general.

          Finally, equality is coming for gay Americans. It’s very unfortunate that anyone has to deal with lawsuits, or boycotts etc., but please know that none of that would be necessary if gay people were simply treated equally.

          • peasporridgehot

            In response:

            Point #1: Your reasoning is so faulty it would take more time than I have to respond. I will say only this: These people had been customers of my friends for years; they had never refused them service, and they were not refusing them service in this case; they would have made anything but a wedding cake. Had they baked a wedding cake for these folks, they would have violated their moral conscience. But I don’t expect you to understand that. Also, I know for a fact that my friends were SINGLED OUT, BECAUSE they knew where they stood and wanted to make an example of them. There are THREE bakeries within TWO miles who would have gladly baked them a wedding cake. NO REASON for this to have happened.

            Point #2: “I totally abhor violence and the threats of violence.” “..please know that none of that would be necessary if gay people were simply treated equally.” In your estimation, violence was necessary against my friends. You’re a liar.

          • fairmindedindc

            I will leave the name-calling to you and will rather focus on trying once again to explain my position and why I disagree with you.

            1. Your claim that my reasoning is faulty is fairly worthless without evidence.

            2. You attribute great weight to the fact that the gay couple was previously served, but it was only the wedding cake that was withheld. My original comment stands, to wit: “In your friend’s case it doesn’t matter that they served them in other capacities because owners don’t get to pick and chose who and when it’s okay to discriminate against.” A racist hotel operator doesn’t get to deny a hotel room to an interracial couple because he allowed them to buy a magazine in the gift shop. It’s clear as day, for those not willfully blind to the logic and facts.

            3. I don’t doubt that they may have been “singled out,” but that doesn’t matter. If an interracial couple is aware of a racist hotel owner, and the couple is committed to fighting discrimination, then they should be applauded for “standing up for their rights,” not be condemned.

            The bottom line in both 2 and 3 above is that your friends do not have the right to deny service on a discriminatory basis even if they claim it’s because of their religious faith. I already explained that if this were not the case, our society would be rife with people making such claims to avoid compliance with a myriad of laws, and that is untenable to society. Again, this should be very clear.

            4. You totally twisted my intention in the last paragraph. You seem to have taken your queue from Fox “News” in that you misleadingly edited my statement. Early in my post I make it clear I oppose violence, threats of violence, physical and many other forms of harassment, and many forms of intimidation. I support boycotts, letter’s to the editor, lawsuits etc. That was crystal clear. My final paragraph I state:

            “It’s very unfortunate that anyone has to deal with lawsuits, or boycotts etc., but please know that none of THAT would be necessary if gay people were simply treated equally.”

            The word “THAT” modifies “lawsuits, or boycotts etc….” it clearly does not pertain to any of the activities that I stated that I oppose. The only thing I would change is that I would delete “etc.” at the end so as to not give you the tiniest of opportunity to distort my obviously clear meaning.

            If you do post a response, please try to constrain the name calling but do try to be logical, factual, on-point, and civil.

  • Sarah Branson

    Their are using Media to shove there agenda down peoples throats and we all better conform to the mainstream. If not we are penalized at berated. Congratulations to the host that walked off. I commend her. I guess that is what we need to do now if we are being berated. Just walk away. Round of applause for standing up for what you believe.

    • fairmindedindc

      Awe, poor you, you actually have to face the reality that everyone doesn’t think, act, feel, and look exactly like you. Awe,…you poor thing. How can you possibly survive being “forced” to watch two guys kiss. Wow, the burdens you bear are so great. And on top of that, you may actually be criticized for voicing an opinion that all Americans should not be treated equally. How dare anyone take issue with you! You should be allowed to support discrimination and repression without anyone disagreeing with you.

      You are right, the only thing to do is to get in a huff and take your toys and go home and whine and cry about the terrible persecution you are feeling. Poor, poor baby….

  • Robo

    Homosexuality is not a race.

  • Toni Marcum Frech

    If a business fires you or fines you because of what you said privately or off work hours, I relly hope you look for the rule book and make sure it says they can do that. If not, take their a**es to court! As for the two bimbos on the ends, they obviously have no moral values and are liberal idiots so I’m glad one of the ones with a brain walked off.

  • Ryan Miskin

    Bottom line, freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. Freedom of speech simply means you will not be jailed, short of making serious threats to people. If whatever you say makes your employer look bad, then they have every right to fine you for your actions or flat out fire you to not associate their business with your views that YOU decided to make public via social media.
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    • PT10

      Ryan, since when does being gainfully employed give employer’s the right to monitor our thoughts and comments simply because they may not align with the company’s? This is pure indoctrination at it’s worst. The Gaystapo is at it again.

      • Ryan Miskin

        They’re not monitoring your thoughts, they’re simply responding to something that the “employeee” decided to openly share with the public via social media. That was HIS choice to do. He was not reprimanded for something he said to a teammate at dinner. This was a comment that HE decided to make PUBLIC on PURPOSE. Grasp that concept now, or is it still over your head?

        • PT10

          Oh Ryan….you’re a sarcastic little sucker. That’s the point Ryan. This is a free country (or supposed to be). If you can’t take your beliefs public, you might as well be dead. All the queers do it and the rest of us have to like it. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Can you grasp that concept or is it still over your head?

    • PT10

      Ryan, how does a belief that homosexuality is sick, disgusting and immoral make your employer look bad….unless your employer is a sick, disgusting and immoral homo.

      • Ryan Miskin

        Is this a serious question? Why do you think employers and TV station at times have to say things like “The beliefs and opinions of _____ ______ are not shared by our company”? It’s to cover their ass because when you are hired by someone you are representing the company, in this case as a player you represent the the team you play for and partially the league. EVERY player has a clause in their contract that says action can be taken if their is conduct detrimental to the team, and you see that exercised ALL the time. I follow the NBA pretty regularly and it happens every year where people are sat for a while, or suspended for a while, for “conduct detrimental to the team.”

        This is no different.

        • PT10

          He wasn’t out on the football field. He was home. Your employer doesn’t own you 24-7. You have a right to your opinions and beliefs and you have a right to voice them off the job.

          • Ryan Miskin

            He does have a right to opinions and beliefs at home. The issue that you are for some reason not grasping is that he didn’t keep them at home, he broadcasted them across the world (literally) via his twitter account. He didn’t nudge his mom and say “ew, gross.” He took the time to make sure everyone knew how he felt. For some reason you’re not getting that.

  • Annette H.

    Where did they find the ninny who thinks sexuality is a race? And next time, the walker should stand her ground! The smug expressions on the two at either end were maddening. FYI, these are the races recognized by science: Oriental, Negroid, and Occidental. Everyone falls under one or a combination of those three. Deal with it and focus more on the Human Race; we’re probably all mutts at this point.

    • Annette H.

      P.S. – our country is the U.S.A. – not America. Let’s stop identifying ourselves by the continent.

  • Jibryne Karter

    Im glad that women walked off. I didn’t like what she had to say and she couldn’t take the heat. Next time, either stick to your guns or don’t open your mouth if you can’t take the pressure.

  • FL gal

    The bigot couldn’t take the heat so she got out of the kitchen. If you’re damned determined to be a stupid homophobe at least own it. Know what I, a straight southern white female am sick of seeing? Women that have been discriminated against all their lives (we still make 65% of a man’s salary) show hatred for another class of the discriminated. “I just don’t want to see it. I have 2 boys.” Come on Karma! Do your thing!

    • Terri DeBruler

      that’s bull …… they have proven women make 85 cents on a dollar to men ( MIN ) many women now make more than men…. WOMEN leave work to care for families, to have children etc…..

  • sick of all of this

    the one on the left needed to have been booted not the one that made perfect sense! the one on the end is trying to make a name for herself by being politically correct. she is the type i hate that wants to cram this down our throats. the only 2 i care to see on this show is the one that left and the older women that was appalud we couldn’t say our opinion!

  • The only thing I hear is the girl on the left … “Its racist toward homosexuals” … Clearly she has no idea what racist means. Who cares about anything else…

  • Darlene Radler Formanek

    I do not think all that kissing by ANYONE should be on public display…

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