BREAKING: ISIS Just Responded to the San Bernardino Shooting with This Chilling Message

by Brian Hayes | Top Right News

ISIS extremists are celebrating the mass shooting in San Bernardino hours after the massacre, praising Three Lions — an apparent refrence to three shooters — and creating the hashtag #America_Burning as police hunted for as many as three shooters.

The chilling messages came amidst unconfirmed reports of a “Middle Eastern male” who may have been partially responsible for the carnage.

Vocativ discovered the ISIS posts on web forums where confirmed ISIS extremists frequently share information.

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Translation:

Three lions made us proud. They are still alive,” one ISIS adherent tweeted after the shootings at Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, but prior to the subsequent killing of two of the assailants — one male, one female — after their Black Yukon SUV was cornered, and a wild gunfight ensued.

After the Paris attacks, confirmed ISIS accounts praised “Lions” as well. But ISIS also took explicit credit for those attacks. They have not done so with San Bernadino.

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California streets are full with soldiers with heavy weapons. The Unites States is burning #America_Burning #Takbir” “God is great and he the one to be praised for that,” another supporter posted.

This is hell with god’s will.” In reference to the shooting, another ISIS supporter posted on Twitter, “God is the greatest. May god spread fear in the homes of the Crusaders.”

There is as of this hour no official report on the identity of the shooters, one of whom is reportedly dead, and another on the run, according to San Bernadino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan.

However several reports from those listening to police scanner and one on the scene referenced “Middle Eastern males,” with one specific name popping up in at least 22 Tweets:

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“Middle eastern male, beard, camo shorts and a headset..,”according to eyewitnesses.

“The San Diego Tribune reported:

 Riverside police dispatchers have broadcast a general advisory that the suspects involved in the shootings in San Bernardino may have fled in a black GMC Yukon, heading northbound on Waterman Avenue, roughly 40 minutes ago.

The broadcast indicated there were unconfirmed reports the suspects were male and of Middle Eastern origin, “armed with AK-47s and wearing body armor.”

The broadcast was part of a region-wide alert issued by the San Bernardino Police Department.

UPDATE: REPORT CONFIRMED (7:02pm PT ): Law enforcement officials have identified “Syed Farook” as one of the suspected shooters who attacked a center for the disabled in San Bernardino, California, according to NBC News. (Farook photo supplied below)

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UPDATE #2: Two assailants, Syed Farook, and his wife Tasheed Malik, were killed. Farook’s brother was also detained by the FBI, who has not given any details on his potential involvement. However none of this was known at the time of the ISIS tweets…giving more credence to the possibility that Farook was an agent of, or working with ISIS or a related organzation.

This is a developing story.


  • jhk

    ” BREAKING: 12 Dead in Attack on Disabled Center in CA… Gunmen ‘at Large’… Democrats Hit NRA”.. I put this blood squarely where it belongs… in Obama’s hands!

    • snookie calhoun

      Fuck you’re a sheeple. “scream mindless redirect, wash rinse repeat”

    • Jennifer Kozelka

      AMEN JHK!!! Anyone who stands behind the sign with a gun and a big red line across the front of it have enabled these terrorist to target unsuspecting trusting Americans. Demoncrats have American blood on their hands… they led the lambs to the slaughter and their response is more slaughter with more gun controls. ITS INSANITY!

      • MeToo99

        These idiot liberals cannot and will not even admit that these terrorists were middle eastern. Why? What good does hiding the truth do? Why the lies and distortion and the blame on the NRA? Democrats you are fools and I am starting to believe pure evil.

        • lwainscot

          Oh, they don’t want to profile anyone. I could cause discrimination. BooHoo

          • MeToo99

            Oh they want to profile everyone, as long as they can incorrectly profile everyone as a white, conservative, Christian, with an axe to grind with Planned Parenthood.

          • ob_one1963

            That’s because white Christians don’t arbitrarily kill people and we have the rule of law in this country that most people respect.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Yes white Christians have never arbitrarily killed people. I am sure their has been no news recently of this happening and we could never do a quick google search for happening in the past. The KKK and timothy McVeigh or the planned parent hood shooter were never a thing and left liberal media is just throwing lies!

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          • Logic101

            Christians would never burn a cross and McVeigh was far from Christian..do you read much ?

          • Dylan Linzer

            So the KKK is not a christian organization? You should prolly call them up and let them know!

          • Logic101

            Give me their #, I know you have it on speed dial.

          • Dylan Linzer

            lame

          • Joe Mansell

            Are you dumb. Kkk killed people arbitrarily, so did Timothy McVeigh , and other home grown causcasion terrorist dude. Let’s not be idiotic

          • stillwild1111

            The Klan was founded by Democrats and all of the members were Democrats. The difference, Dylan and John, is that the KKK is so past tense, and McVeigh didn’t kill people because of their religion, but out of revenge. Try to stay in the current century.
            The common denominator for the school or theater shooters is drugs. There is a BIG difference. The very nature of Islam is evil, and their entire goal is to wipe out all religions and races other than their own. Yes, I have a total hate-on for muzzies and Barry.

          • Doomarang McDaniel

            well seeing how the crusaders killed off opposing religions for around 800 years Christians and Catholics have just as much blood on their hands if not more…and no the kkk is not past thence you faggot…they just attacked blacks at that fucking “Donald Drunk” rally!

          • stillwild1111

            The Klan is not as prevalent as they once were and maybe only a handful exist. Mostly, they are skinhead nazi-types and not your true white christian-type racists, so the KKK of the 20th century is not the same as the wannabe’s of today. (Do your homework.)
            Again, just like the typical liberal you can’t just reply with facts or a comment, you have to resort to name calling and vulgarity. Are all of you related?

          • Nancy Toney

            The Klan isn’t the only White Supremacist group that exists. Visit the ACLU or the NAACP, they have several hundred names of groups that do just as much damage as the KKK. Whit supremacy runs the gamut from your backyard chicken fighting redneck to your skinhead who focuses on anti Semitism to your wall street exec who uses their power to keep people of color from being able to afford/obtain homes/restructures our economy or helps to facilitate restructuring and zoning to keep people of color down.

            Don’t even act like it’s not true. If you were to enter prison with any tattoo that signified that you belonged to any of the groups that are known as being White supremacist, including the dying KKK, you would be put on a list of gang members and watched like a hawk.

          • Nancy Toney

            Apparently they think that only White Christians are good Christians. Every other Christian isn’t as good as white Christians. The Christians have so much blood on their hands just as much as the Muslims do. And not only that but present day Christians have blood on their hands but they are too cowardly to show it. They like to put on their white hoods and ride around hurting people rather than show their faces. Or they like to pay people to pass ordinances or laws that allow people to discriminate based on sexual orientation. Or they support false information being spread to the masses that will incite the killing of an abortion clinic worker/supporter/patient or bystander. But don’t ask them to admit to it, they like for people to “think” they are too good. The shooting at the Black church sure didn’t create much of a stir in the Christian community but let it happen in an all White church by a Muslim. When the shooting occurred in the Black church using the rebel flag the White Christians got all up in arms “taking away their flag that represents their heritage not hate”. Bull crap. The only thing those White Christians cared about was that they could still fly their racist flag and pretend it was hate. IDK who they were trying to pretend to, we all know it’s a racist symbol of hate and intolerance and murder.

          • Jacob

            800 years ago there were no Protestant evangelicals. Soldiers who fought in the Crusades lived in fiefdoms that were controlled by a King. These Kings were at odds with the Popes and used the Crusades to gain popularity with Rome. Martin Luther opposed Rome for many reasons but collectively the overarching reason was their centralized power- which he found at odds with his own study of scriptures. God is not a puppeteer, and while history is rife with folks doing bad things in the name of God / religion, it still doesn’t mean that God isn’t real.

          • a red blooded American

            Dont argue with him.hes racist.let him live with his ignorance.he deserves it

          • Dylan Linzer

            You do know that democrats and republicans switch views awhile ago right? Do you really think any republicans would vote for Abe Lincoln today? You did leave out the planned parent hood shooter. McVeigh was still a white christian and he was trying to start a race war.

          • stillwild1111

            Yes, I do know about the change in views and morals between the political parties, but that doesn’t mean that today’s Republicans are racists who want to hunt down blacks and Jews. Quite the opposite.
            Abortion clinic shooters are mentally disturbed and are killing out of hate or anger, not religion. It doesn’t matter what McVeigh was, he still blew up the Murray Bldg out of revenge or retaliation. Why are we still talking about 20th century events?

          • Dylan Linzer

            so do you think other terrorist are not mentally disturbed?

          • Nancy Toney

            No. They are radicalized. Religion makes people do things that make them seem mentally disturbed. Talking to people who aren’t there is considered a symptom of a mental condition but if you talk to God then it’s totally sane. Islamic terrorists are just as “sane” as the preacher who is on his knees asking God to make something happen for himself or someone else. They are just as sane as those who actually think that a virgin became pregnant by a god and had a man god baby who died then came back to life and will come back again….. Being mentally disturbed is another term for a person with a clear psychological illness in which a doctor can identify and treat. Religious beliefs have yet to be placed into the DSM as a psychological disorder. But if you ask me, personally…..they should be.

            Most followers of any religious cult or belief aren’t truly mentally disturbed. They are either indoctrinated or they are grown up and taught that is how they should believe and they aren’t the kind of person to question it. Flocks of sheep will do anything their shepherd asks of them.

          • Nancy Toney

            Did it ever occur to you that people don’t follow their political party, that we join the party that best fits our personal views. I don’t care what the liberals or the democrats do or believe or stand for. I only care what I stand for. I’m not going to agree with everything they say or do, but the majority of MY VIEWS are liberal therefore I join the party that most closely fits my ideals. Stop acting like life is either liberal or conservative. If you need a party to conform to then you are a fake person. Just like those who feel lost without religion. Use your mind and make up your own ideals about society, you don’t have to be told or conform.

            You think that just because I support something like LGBTQ rights that I must do it to follow the pack. It could be that I’ve ALWAYS supported gays because I never had any reason to think that a person shouldn’t be able to sleep with or marry another age appropriate human being if it makes the two of them happy. Just like I’m not going to support Islam or respect it because it hurts women and it’s violent. I’m also not going to support or respect Christianity because it hurts women, it promotes an unnatural view of the human body and sexuality, and it is anti science. Not to mention, I just can’t believe in a god. But I don’t put down other religions because their members don’t happen to be gigantic douche bags like Christians and Muslims are. Excuse me for actually being a person who is registered a liberal, but also not fitting into your mold of someone who supports Islam.

          • Nancy Toney

            None of the members of THAT democratic party are allowed in our democratic party today. As if KKK members would align themselves with LGBTQ supporters or a Black president. They are now known as…AHEM…the TEA PARTY and the GOP. You don’t like Muslims or Obama because you are a racist and a bigot. I dislike Muslims because I dislike the RELIGION since it’s dangerous and nonsensical to kill people because your made up sky daddy tells you to. As for Obama, we can smell a racist.

            The common denominator for mass murders committed by white people not affiliated with Islamic terror is mental illness. It’s NOT drugs.

          • ob_one1963

            Apples and oranges Joe. Thanks for calling me dumb too. Reminds me I have to pick up where I left off reading Democracy in America. Thanks!

          • Nancy Toney

            Democracy in America sounds like a book written by an angry White person. Smells like racist teabagger bullsh*t to me.

          • ob_one1963

            HAHA, now you’re toying with us Nancy. A simple google check would reveal that Democracy in America was written in the 1830’s by a French intellect, Alexis de Toqueville. If you are in fact not toying with me/us, this is a very telling indictment of our educational system in this country.
            Try this. http://www.gradesaver.com/democracy-in-america

          • Nancy Toney

            Like I care when the book was written. Does it matter? No.

          • ob_one1963

            Ummmm yes it does. YOU intoned that above.

          • George

            Are we really gonna play the race card

          • a red blooded American

            Your a coward and racist punk bitch.Im indian…get your scum ass out of our lands.

          • Dylan Linzer

            I think you are full of shit

          • a red blooded American

            Well your a racist piece of shit and i just hope and pray that all of the victims were liberals

          • Dylan Linzer

            I think it is racist to act like a native American to try to make your point of nonsense but I guess this is why you will never get why people probably call you a racist. I know you want to call other people racist very much but maybe the reason people call you a racist is because you actually are a racist.

          • a red blooded American

            That’s your ignorant ass kind.May it annoy the Hell out if you

          • a red blooded American

            That’s your tough shit problem, not mine

          • Nancy Toney

            The KKK and White Supremacy organizations are strongly Christian. Mostly Protestant. W.A.S.P. White Anglo Saxon Protestant. Gotta fight for your Christian heritage! Your White Christian heritage that is!

          • john_willow

            You are a screwball with a total hate-on for Obama, and of course, for Muslims.

          • ob_one1963

            Everyone’s 10 feet tall behind a keyboard eh John? You sure seem to know me well. Just remember, never “assume.”

          • stillwild1111

            Can’t you come up with another phrase or is that the best you’ve got?

          • Nancy Toney

            Uhm….I freaking love Obama.

          • jhk

            Attention… Attention…. Attention… Okay, now that I have everyone’s attention.. please excuse Nancy Toney, for she is mentally ill and cannot grasp the concepts being talked about here… God bless her…

          • Nancy Toney

            Except for the Christians who have murdered LGBTQ people, harassed students for being LGBT until they committed suicide, Warren Jeffs, faith healing parents who allowed their children to die of treatable illnesses because they thought Jesus would cure a bacterial infection priests who caused children to develop PTSD from molestation….etc….etc. No, you don’t go around “blowing up” people or spraying people with bullets and yelling “Praise Jebus” while you do it because in the Bible that’s now how your religion works. You do it in a sneaky way because you are hypocrites who want to “look righteous” while being able to be horrible people behind closed doors. I dislike both Christianity and Islam equally. That’s one reason, aside from the fact that I don’t believe in fairy tales, that I’m an Atheist. I’m tired of the both of you, Judeo Christian religions are a plague.

            Don’t get on your high and mighty soap box and do the “Christians are so much better” speech. You aren’t. You are just a different kind of evil. You don’t even respect the rule of law unless it adheres to your religious beliefs. You would support a form of sharia law based on Christian beliefs if you could lobby enough politicians to pass them. You (Christians) don’t support my right to an abortion even though the 9th and 14th amendments of the Constitution, a piece of paper Christians cling to as much as the Bible because they only know the 2nd amendment, has been decided by a majority of our honorable Supreme Court justices grants me that right. Why? Oh, it’s murder, it’s against “God”. Well, respect the law, Christians. It’s not “legally” murder, remember you respect the rule of law, and the rule of law says abortion is NOT murder. So see, you are a hypocrite, and you are always complaining about the law. The law doesn’t make Christians “good people” the law FORCES Christians to not be as bad as they would be if we didn’t have laws.

          • George

            Everyone’s equal to their own opinion and my opinion is you sound like a hater

          • stillwild1111

            She only hates Christians and those who don’t subscribe to her immoral, self-centered, “all about me”, selfish lifestyle. If you don’t support the gay movement, the killing of babies, the idea that there is no God, and to each his own. If you’re not of the “I want to do it and I want to do it now. I don’t care who it inconveniences.” club, then Yes, she absolutely hates you.
            In other words, she hates anyone who is good and she flocks to those who have already lost their soul.

          • Nancy Toney

            Yeah, if you aren’t willing to come to my orgy and participate in the grab bag sex toy assignment (whichis full of totally non sexual items found oround the house” and then find ways to shove them in your orifices, then you are on the wrong side of Baby Jesus.

          • ob_one1963

            Seems to me you’re on the soapbox Nancy and you have either experienced or had some pretty bad encounters in the past. Your blanket condemnation of Christianity is quite sad really. And your comments regarding our Constitution proves you are slightly more in the dark regarding the foundation of our country than you may lead yourself to believe. How you entwine abortion into this conversation is simply baffling, except I would surmise that you have more than likely been on the giving end of one and have some pretty deep seated emotions involved.
            With regards to the Supreme Court, you and I could debate that over gallons of coffee. What I will say is essentially since the 50’s, a majority of SCOTUS rulings have traveled away from Natural Law, which is the founders basis of the Constitution.
            It’s all fine and dandy to pick and choose examples that suit ones need. However, we are in a fight of epic proportions that most people just cannot grasp nor fathom. There IS good and evil on this planet. Most of us choose good for we know what evil is. Evil brings misery, heartbreak. Goodness is humankind brings along with it faith in one another, trust, committed relationships, strong families, strong communities. I could go on but you see my point.
            I wish you well Nancy. I truly hope and yes, pray, that you and people like you will take some time, sit back, close your eyes, and think about how blessed we are to live in a country that really, truthfully, while not perfect, is the best country on the face of Gods creation.
            Have a truly blessed day.

          • Dylan Linzer

            But we can make a blanket condemnation of Muslims right?

          • Nancy Toney

            Bad encounters? Yeah, I was abducted by christians. WTH. Newsflash, a LOT of people don’t like Christians. You guys are gigantic douches. I am in my 30’s, been an Atheist all of my life, I am actually a Laveyan Satanist by personal philosophy (which are Atheists btw not Satanists) and you can pray all you want but I’ve always been non religious, I love being non religious and I wouldn’t want to be religious. And if I happened to ever wake up one day and want to waste my time on a religion, I’d probably just be a Witch and worship nature. So, in the words of Marilyn Manson…”Why would I want to spend an enternity with a bunch of assholes?”. I don’t even like you and I don’t even know you. To spend eternity with you would be worse than “Hell”. I don’t want to be a Christian, never, ever, ever, ever. End of story. I’m a geologist, married to a geologist and Atheist, what a conversation that would be trying to defend some biblical flood that never happened to my spouse who would be looking at me like I needed a padded cell. How embarrassing to my entire field of study.

          • jhk

            You really like to talk don’t you? Probably have no one to talk to, so you spew your hate and ignorance all over the Internet. Your posts are too long and too boring to interest me into reading them! How many times are you going to repeat yourself? You hate ‘White Christians’… we get it… we DON’T CARE!

          • Nancy Toney

            Mostly I just hate the bible beaters, just so happens they all tend to be white morons who hang out on tea bagger sites. And you are so much fun to mess with. You really take your shit seriously.

          • jhk

            Ahhh.. that explains a lot, doesn’t it? I will give you a pass then, because I know you really cannot help it.. poor thing!

          • ob_one1963

            Hate is a seriously evil word Nancy. How about strongly dislike?

          • Jacob

            I support your right to an abortion, now that have a good idea of the kind of child you would be rearing.

          • Nancy Toney

            What’s that? One that won’t harass a gay child to the point they commit suicide. Why thank you, I’m so proud to be contributing to the betterment of society. Somebody has to.

          • Richard Casey

            We still like you and will pray for your soul. Sorry some forms of religion are not what they should be, a true believer in Christ knows those issue you have are wrong also but that will not make us Atheist, we still have Hope!

          • boll ocks

            please don’t pray for me as that is a waste of time and it is also the mark of a mentally deficent person. Thanks.

          • Nancy Toney

            Praying for someone = feeling good about doing nothing for them.

          • Nancy Toney

            Why don’t you do something meaningful like pay my car payment for me? What the hell good am I going to get from you praying for me? Thanks a lot!

          • Doomarang McDaniel

            Well technically yea you’ve killed for about 800 years….Galileo was beaten nearly to death and spent the rest of his life imprisoned because White Christians didn’t want to admit that the earth wasn’t the center of the universe…#shutupandreadabook!

          • Nancy Toney

            Also they didn’t want to admit the Earth was round, but that is a totally different subject. In fact, White Christians like the ones found on these sites believes the Earth does revolve only around them. They pine away hoping, literally that Jesus will come back, murder everyone that is his follower and usher them into heaven to leave the rest of us Heathen to walk to the Earth. Sounds like a good deal, any way I can help bring around the second coming of christ? I’m all willing to help barring it doesn’t require me to actually harm another person or living thing. But, it seems the sins of the flesh are all that is required any more so….orgy at my place! Bring a dish.

          • ob_one1963

            Not how it will work Nance dear. You are talking sins rather than condemnation to purgatory. It is quite different.

          • Nancy Toney

            Just pointing out that it’s only Catholics who believe in Purgatory and my Baptist family members would tell you that you’re going to HELL anyway for not being a Baptist and being a born again sinner baptized in a creek or river. So, really, I’m just the Atheist in the corner pointing out how not even Christians can get on the same page. So…you Catholics, you aren’t even real Christians and you are going to hell anyway, good thing you drink that devils juice “wine” because it will make your trip to Hell a lot more tolerable. HAHAHA oh I love pointing out how Baptists think Catholics are going to hell. Really, it’s freaking hilarious to see the two go at it.

          • Nancy Toney

            White Christians are usually assholes. Are you saying Black Christians are different though? Do they arbitrarily kill people? What makes White Christians so special? Do I smell a little bit of the ole KKK here?

          • ob_one1963

            I don’t respond to hypotheticals. Nice try…

          • Christopher

            One Name… Timothy McVeigh now shut the hell up!

          • Christopher

            One name Timothy McVeigh now shut the hell up!

          • Nancy Toney

            I’m white and would love to profile white conservative christians along side of the islamic terrorists. You are both dangerous people and your messiahs are essentially the same, just with a different name. To phrase it so it’s easy for you to understand, the Muslims are doing what your people did during the Crusades. It’s not funny when YOU happen to the on the sharp end of the sword now. If you ask me, the world would be a lot better off if Christians and Muslims became “spiritually but non religious”. But, whatever. Thanks to your ancestors who were Christian your sister religion of Islam has an axe to grind for all of humanity, and us who are Atheist are sitting over here going “Glad I’m not a part of either one of those crazy moronic groups”. I just hope that on one side some crazy Christian nut job doesn’t decide to donate all of their money to a lobby group to stop us from being able to gamble, see exposed boobies at the girly show or get an abortion and on the other end of the spectrum I’m hoping that the next death metal concert I attend some Muslim nut job doesn’t march in and kill us all. Thanks religion……it’s really beginning to make life on Earth miserable for us adults who don’t even participate in your fairy tales.

          • accorn

            You seriously need to study history since the crusades started in response to Muslims attacking a Christian kingdom. Just like – while modern Hindus can also be violent in response to Muslim aggression, the modern war started by Muslims attacking a Hindu temple (aka

            Gujarat communal riots). If you want to be anti religion that is fine but your just not speaking facts.

          • ob_one1963

            Thanks Accorn, I was going to appraise Ms. Toney of that FACT…. You beat me to it…

          • Nancy Toney

            I don’t care who did what first. You both can take your made up fairy tales and go shove them. You are both a bunch of children fighting over lies.

          • Logic101

            Of course, you have stated, facts don’t matter to you.

          • Doomarang McDaniel

            you are an idiot…it not your fault your parents probably taught u that along with millions of other “WHITE” lies… the roman empire has been responsible for murdering any one who opposed Jesus Mary or the bible… this is 300 years before the crusaders and right after the death of Jesus! Read a book! They contentiously murdering opposers for 800 years they did not spare kids, women, elderly or the disabled…if you did not convert you were tortured to death…because they believed it was a righteous death as long as no blood split. please dont join any religious groups without learning their history first…SMH #uneducatedChristians

          • Byron Shutt

            WOW……you just showed stupid on so many levels. Your History is really out of whack……but progressive rewriting of history does NOT make it fact.

          • Nancy Toney

            Progressives re writing history? That’s crazy talk.

          • Nancy Toney

            They refuse to admit that Christiantiy spread across Europe and that Pagans were beheaded and burned for being evil. They also refuse to admit that when Christians came to North America they called Natives “devils” and did the same to them in various ways. They also fail to admit that the slaves that White ancestors bought (some racist will chime in that it was the Africans who sold them, therefore it’s not AS racist) crushed their non Christian religions when they were purchased and were taught the ways of Christians. White Christians were afraid of Voodoo magic and only in certain parts of one area of our nation does Voodoo even still exist in the few people who still carry the tradition even though it’s been watered down by Chrisitan influences. They killed many cultures by their “expansions” and continue to do so through spreading the word of Jesus to people who are living in regiions without food or water and dying of aids. Praying isn’t going to help any of those people, science and money will. But Christians, in their infinite moronic wisdom think that a bible will solve the problem of a woman who’s child is starving to death every day because of lack of resources for nutrition.

          • Logic101

            Then get your self-righteous but over there and help..oh wait, if it doesn’t benefit you..its not worth your time, I can use you as a bad example of humans.

          • Nancy Toney

            I don’t care what it started over. Christians and Muslims are ruining the world because they are more concerned with their made up sky daddy than reality.

          • George

            Are you over educated on books and none in common sense perhaps

          • Nancy Toney

            Over educated on books? Yet you cling to a book with no author that claims snakes talk and virgins can become pregnant without a sperm. Common sense? How stupid you are.

          • George

            You believe what you want I’ll believe what I want I really don’t give two shits on your beliefs or opinions I won’t preach to you you don’t preach to me if it comes to it and we are both on the battle field together I’ll still fight for your rights as you will for mine

          • Scout

            Lady, you’re out of it with respect to the Crusades. (We) have been on the sharp end of it since old Mo (pbuh) decided to spread Islam by force. Have you never looked at the maps? Have you any idea about the Reconquista? RE-Conquista. The Mozlems started expanding violently and were met with force. How else to turn aside jihadis? Reason? Pfft! Islam started way down in Saudi Arabia, so explain how they ended up conquering most of Spain, with the fault still being Christian. You can’t. Not in a month of Sundays. The ignorance is appalling. As to the rest, While you’re ‘hoping’ for shit, the many folks are actively opposing the Jihadis. Hope we win, because while Christians will ruefully tolerate atheism -and titties, gambling, beer, and abortions- the Muslims will just fucking kill you. If you’re interested in what life looks like for ‘people of the book’ (not atheists, of course, y’all are just killed outright) take a look at the Pact of Umar. — You are parroting Obama’s views on the Crusades, whether you know it or not. You are basically saying that Christians started it and here is our just dessert, but this map would persuade someone who was willing to learn… Those are offensive battles pressed by the Mozlems AFTER the death of big Mo (pbuh). You’re obviously entitled to spew any ignorance you please, but on the off chance that you’re interested in knowing what you’re talking about…

          • Nancy Toney

            Like Christians are any better than Muslims. Christians killed all of the Pagans. You burned the sacred tree that the Nordic peoples worshiped. Ever wonder why Norway has historically burned churches. To your made up hell with both your stupid religions. Islam and Christianity are cancers on the planet. It’d be nice if Muslims just stuck with fighting Christians but noooo just like Christians “tolerate” but hate Atheists, Wiccans, Buddhists and anyone else that’s not Christian, inside you love it when something negative happens to them/us. Muslims are just taking it one step farther into crazy territory and making negative things happen to those they hate. It makes you no better than they are because in your hearts many of you are just a bunch of judgemental old hateful assholes.

          • Scout

            That’s right, darlin’…change the subject. Shift and squirm and dance all you like. Feel free to continue to enjoy the protection of a Christian defense while also kicking your defenders in the balls. You’re a free rider drawing your cultural welfare check. Meanwhile, you know better than to try that mouth anywhere else. Outside the umbrella provided to you by the Christian defense, you’re cold meat… and you know it.

          • MeToo99

            Clearly you do not know what the Crusades were about. Perhaps you should find out. The rest of your post is just ridiculous. Your entire post was hateful and bigoted against Christians, all the while calling Christians hateful. Fact is, I do not care if you are atheist, but you seem to care whether someone else is Christian. Interesting how you paint everyone with the same brush. Too bad you cannot even see your own hateful hypocrisy. Please, do not elaborate further. Intolerance and hate is the hallmark of most whiny atheists.

          • stillwild1111

            If you actually Knew history, you might have a chance of making a semi-decent point but you just sound ignorant. I’m sorry that you choose to believe in a sinful world rather than a loving and faithful God, but that’s your choice. I will pray for you and then I will forget all about you, though Jesus will not.
            Christians are nothing like muslims and you cannot give one single, true example of how we are the same. Since America started rejecting God, the values and morals of people have rapidly gone downhill and they’re still plummeting. Do you think our society is better today than we were in the 30’s, 50’s, 70’s, 90’s. It gets worse as time passes but today it’s the worst it’s ever been.
            We are already Sodom and Gomorrah.

          • boll ocks

            full retard just happened

          • Byron Shutt

            Your mirror….again.

          • Nancy Toney

            Funny, I made all A’s in history both in high school and in college. Of course, it’s actual HISTORY, not curriculum that some pearl clutching blue hair with a cross up her ass decided should be taught. “It’s not real history if it’s not the history that conforms to MY beliefs or MY religious ideals about the world”. Pfft, you people are what makes life sadly hilarious. Jokes on you. Sodom and Gomorrah? Isn’t that where people got together enjoyed anal sex? So when does this party get started? Sounds like a good time. And this time we have condoms! Wooo hooo the possibilities.

          • ob_one1963

            “Funny, I made all A’s in history both in high school and in college.” That’s the rub Nancy. It’s the history you were taught. Colleges and to a major degree secondary education, are cesspools that are home to socialist educators poisoning young fertile minds such as yours with half truths and opinions.

            ” Isn’t that where people got together enjoyed anal sex and in general just some freaky sexy shit going down? So when does this party get started? Sounds like a good time. And this time we have condoms! Wooo hooo the possibilities.”

            Have you ever been in a serious relationship? Ever endured the pain of your “lover” cheating on you? Or do you engage in sex because you enjoy the odd tool satisfying your carnal desires? You use sex as a tool which in of itself is evil simply because you do not know the other individual. Like I said in my previous post, likely you have had an abortion, or 2 or 3, use abortion as a form of contraception, and don’t value a relationship with another human being, hence your first reaction is to tear down those who do value those things. I would be willing to bet you view married couples with disdain and disgust. Iwould also be willing to be divorce has been present pretty much throughout your life, hence your desire to procreate with anything on two legs and a penis, although by the way you talk, I’m sure the odd mixed sex orgy is in the mix periodically also.

            “You have been guilty of impaling Pagans, raping children in Catholic churches” So my neighbor robs a bank, we’re all guilty? My neighbor murders someone, we’re all guilty? Your line of thought is beyond comprehension.

            “You are guilty of breeding killers who kill abortion doctors.” Ummm, no. This is truly delusional. However, since most believe life begins at conception, I personally view abortion as murder in the womb, and quite frankly, murder of the innocent and defenseless, which is the worst type of murder.

            and yet spreading your legs to have an orgasm with someone other than your opposite sex spouse is an atrocity.” As said above, if you ever have the ability to fall in love, it’s more than sex. It’s finding that person you can truly lean on. When you find that person, you remain faithful to that person. What you are describing is totally inaccurate. The Ten Commandments dictate to Christians how to conduct themselves thus ensuring an orderly society to live in. I know I’m asking a lot, but why don’t you read the Ten Commandments and just pick out 2 or 3 and think how better off society would be if a majority followed those? Such as, though shalt not kill. Though shall honor thy Mother and Father. Though shall not steal. Though shall not covet thy neighbors wife.

          • Byron Shutt

            You ‘adults’ not engaging in religion are the perpetrators of the biggest myths of all. And the results are abortion and poverty of the soul.

          • Nancy Toney

            I don’t believe in fairy tales. I stopped doing that when I realized the tooth fairy and Santa wasn’t real.

          • Byron Shutt

            So you are an atheist? You must be in the uber genius level considering it is impossible for you to know even 1% of man’s total knowledge and I would guess humankind knows less than 1% of Universal knowledge YET YOU, knowing nothing of the rest of the 99.99%, are sure there isn’t a God? Amazing

          • Nancy Toney

            The reason that people who hate Atheists pitifully attempt to mock us by calling us a “genius” is because quite literally our group is FULL of geniuses. I’m smart but I am no a genius. But I can proudly say that I’m personally philosophically sharing ideals with people like Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson. So you think you are making me feel belittled, but in fact, I am not impressed by your simple minded put downs. I’ve heard them all and they become cute over time. While you may go to “heaven” with all the morons out there who think the Earth is 4 thousand years old or who ban their children from expanding their artistic expression by labeling a rock band “satanic”, I’ll be chilling in some after life/alternatie dimension with sinners. And who are sinners? Certainly not people who go to prison for atrocious crimes because they ask baby jesus for forgiveness. No, I’ll be sharing some cocktails with self proclaimed Atheists like Bill Nye who’s life mission is to help people LEARN, or Isaac Asimov who’s only sin was writing science fiction novels. Gosh, don’t make me feel so stupid to be in the company of some of the most intelligent and amazing people that we’ve ever known. Have fun in Heaven with child molesting priests and Jeffrey Dahmer who were “forgiven”, I hope Heaven has zoning for sex offenders and murderers.

          • Scout

            Science gets it wrong, too… its part of the process, in case you missed that while gazing into your intellectual mirror.

          • Nancy Toney

            I’m not sure what science has to do with Islamic terrorists. I am quite sure though, that if those Islamic terroriss were a bit more “scientific” and a lot less religious they’d at least recognize that strapping bombs to their body and blowing themselves up along with others will NOT actually result in them going to their made up Heaven and receiving seven virgins.

            This must be a post that tries to lump Atheists with scientists as if all Atheists are Biologists or scientists. Please, start asking me how Humans evolved from Monkeys or something utterly non scientific to try to stump me. LMFAO.

          • MeToo99

            Wow. For someone who rambles on and on about how enlightened and brilliant you are, you certainly are judgmental. Why are you so worried about what other people believe in? You want to judge all religion by the actions of a few zealots. Yet, you do not want all atheists judged by the hateful actions of a few. You are very hateful and negative. You have a giant chip on your shoulder. You think you and your “circle” are so smart, and yet not smart enough to see that your entire post is a judgmental, rude, and whiny accusation. Since you mentioned it, who hates atheists? I do not care if you are atheist, yet you seem to care that other people may be religious. If you really are as respectful and diverse as you think you are, you would be far less judgmental and a little more tolerant.

          • Nancy Toney

            If you are unaware, what other people BELIEVE IN is the total reason that we’re being blown up by Islamic terrorists. What other people BELIEVE IN can be so dangerous that it causes the rest of us to suffer. Or maybe you mean that I should ONLY be concerned with what other people who aren’t Christians believe in. Because none of you Christians seem to have any problem condemning Muslims for their beliefs, it’s only an issue when a person condemns you for your beliefs as well. As is all mono theistic religions, a big bunch of hypocrisy.

            Atheists don’t do anything to society by just being a non believer. Please, tell me how my non belief in some supreme being has harmed ANYBODY? How exactly does a non belief in a god harm you? It doesn’t. Atheists aren’t a religious group, we have no rules and we don’t go around deciding that Atheists should or shouldn’t support this or that. Stop acting like we do. It’s totally made up and not even based on facts.

          • MeToo99

            You are a nasty, vicious, person. For some odd reason, you think being an atheist is some sort of badge of honor. Who cares? You keep telling me I do, but I could not care less what you believe or do not believe in. The problem with you is that you simply cannot just let others have a belief in God. You need to make your non-belief your giant soap box, telling believers all about how you don’t believe, and somewhere in your crowded mind that makes you better than the believers. Nobody cares. As for condemning Muslims. I am now and will continue to condemn the radicalized, murderous, terrorist Muslims. Oddly, you seem to be okay with their terrorism because somewhere in your liberal mind you think this will exempt you from their wrath. It won’t. But if it makes you feel better, because like a good liberal you are a coward first, keep blaming Christians. You know they won’t behead you and all your friends.

          • ob_one1963

            Please explain for us rubes how life has become more miserable for “you adults.” Exactly what “freedoms” has Christianity denied you of? In case you haven’t heard, abortion is legal, gay marriage is legal, you’re not forced to do anything, include work, you’re not forced to carry nor own a firearm, which you admitingly do (which does give me pause to wonder why, since if your life is such a utopia, why do you feel the need to own a firearm? Or would it be because of the policies of this current and previous socialist administrations that give the common criminal more rights than it’s law abiding citizens?)

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        • Adam Lee

          The law enforcement just released one suspects name from according to NBC news and it’s Middle East origins. Where do suppose the people got their weapons from if they turnout to be ISIS terrorists?

          • Dylan Linzer

            From a gun show perhaps

          • Logic101

            Wrong , I’d say an alley or maybe Fast and Furious.

          • boll ocks

            you have never been in an ally apparently

          • Nancy Toney

            I have been in alleys I did not find gun dealers, pipe bombs or planned parenthood selling fetus parts. I did see a bunch of trash and some used needles. What alley do you visit?

          • Logic101

            The one down the street from your house.

          • stillwild1111

            Highly unlikely

          • boll ocks

            highly stupid

          • stillwild1111

            You sure are. CA has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Their guns were purchased illegally.

          • ob_one1963

            It is a myth that one can walk into a gun show and walk out with an armload of weaponry. In Minnesota, you can purchase at a gun show and walk out with a firearm. No different than a firearms store. But here’s the rub that the media will not tell you. People selling firearms at a gun show have to have what’s called an FFL, which is a federal firearms license. I someone sells a firearm to someone who has not completed a background check first, and then does not call the ATF prior to the sale to run the firearm, the seller and purchasers name and location, they are subjecting themselves to a felony firearms trafficking charge.
            Purchasing stolen firearms and the ability to purchase a gun at a gun show without a background check is a myth folks.

          • George

            Exactly. Spoken with true knowledge not media corrupted knowledge thank you

          • Scout

            less than 2% of gun crimes are committed with weapons purchased at gun shows…

          • George

            Exactly of you were going to do a crime with a gun why would you want a registered one

          • Nancy Toney

            Ok. And? I don’t care if the crimes come from gun show weapons or pawn shop weapons. If your child was murdered at random by a shooter would you feel less angry that the gun was purchased at a gun show or at a pawn shop

          • Scout

            You’re running in circles or out of step with current calls for gun control, Ma’am. We already have background checks at pawn shops. Mandated. The only reason there IS a loophole for gun shows is because the Fed can’t process them in a timely manner. If one of my (expert marksman) daughters were gunned down, I’d be devastated. I’d mourn. I’d probably cling to the others like melted cheese. I’d probably take revenge in some way and then accept the punishment for it. What I wouldn’t do is go to the range and blame everyone there for her death, which is what the American knee-jerk reaction amounts to. Why don’t you go spend a little time at one of the rental ranges… those are typically good folks who wouldn’t harm a soul except in self-defense.

          • Dylan Linzer

            If you are actually putting up shop in a gun show but individuals can sell to each other

          • stillwild1111

            No American is going to sell anything to a damn muzzie. There is still a record of the original purchase on file and a FFL, so that seller better have a good bill of sale regarding to whom it was privately sold. Can’t have guns in CA.

          • Nancy Toney

            Uhm you can’t discriminate against Muslims. If I owned a gun store and the person legally checked out I’d have to sell them the gun or else it’d be bad business. Good luck with gun stores putting up signs stating “We dont’ sell to “muzzies””. LMFAO just see how long the ACLU takes to slap you with a lawsuit.

          • ob_one1963

            In some states, yes they can Dylan. That is a private sale. However, once again, we have an exercise in ignorance. Do you think I would sell a firearm to you right now? Not a chance. I would sell one to someone I have known for quite some time, and I would also file the appropriate paperwork to show the firearm has been legally transferred. Otherwise, not doing so is considered a “straw sale” which we are now finding out that it is very possible the SB shooters did to get their hands on the guns they used. Here’s the other thing. I sell you a gun, you commit a crime, you are arrested, serial number taken off of gun and it shows it’s registered to me. I am now faces charges as an accomplice.
            See this is the issue. The socialists love to perpetrate these lies. And those who don’t know believe them. The laws are on the books, many are rarely enforced. Felon in possession of a firearm. Most states that carries 1 year in jail. Yet it’s used as a bargaining chip rather than the law being enforced. Pathetic.

          • Nancy Toney

            I would never, ever buy a firearm from someone personally nor sell it. Not even family. I want one brand new that is mine, and will be mine, period. And I don’t want another person touching my weapon, ever.

          • ob_one1963

            You own firearms so you have done just that Nancy. What will it be? Yeesh.
            As for handling your weapon… what’s the issue with that? How did you receive proper training on that particular caliber? How did you learn to dis-assemble and clean your firearm? Have you ever actually fired your guns? I personally have trained quite a few people in responsible ownership and use of firearms. I think you would be quite surprised if you sat through one of my sessions, based on your assumptions of most firearms owners on this page.

          • ob_one1963
          • ob_one1963

            Hopefully some of you will take the time to not only watch this video but share it. It proves we have the laws in place, but people in consistent denial just want more legislation.

            https://www.facebook.com/NationalRifleAssociation/videos/vb.22561081832/10153859461221833/?type=2&theater

          • Dylan Linzer

            except the numbers of shootings have not really changed while Bush was in office….

          • Nancy Toney

            Yeah excuse me for thinking that it’s insane to have a semi auto weapon that can hold enough bullets in a mag to mow down a small school bus full of children without reloading. They sure aren’t going to be used for hunting. And IDK about you, but I can defend myself with one shot from my .22 rimfire, my .45 S&W or my single shot shot gun. Don’t blow that smoke up our asses about how we NEED to be able to continue with the status quo. If you think you need those types of guns you either are 1. not efficient at firing a weapon for personal safety and think with a magazine full maybe one bullet will hit or 2. think that your home will be invaded by an army. or 3 you plan to kill several humans or 4. you think we’ll have a civil war and the over 60 percent of fat Americans can somehow make it one day in a war without keeling over from cardiac arrest. All I need is ONE bullet. And that’s all you or anybody else needs too if you know what the hell you are doing. Because we all know you don’t hunt deer with a tactical rifle. Screw the NRA and screw all the gun nuts who bastardize the second amendment for your personal joy. You are the reason gun reform is coming.

          • ob_one1963

            You are correct Nancy. All you do need is one shot. And one shot out of a slingshot can accomplish the same thing. By your statement, I can tell you have never experienced shooting a moving target. I can also tell that even though you tout the fact you own a .22 and .45, you don’t carry. I can also tell that you have not received the proper training in doing such. I can also tell by your assumption that we are all fat (something that has been refuted by myself and others in this debate) and somehow are “itching to pull the trigger on anything that moves” that we’re gun nuts looking for an easy target. My question to you would be this; why do you own firearms? And since you know so much about “tactical firearms” which gun and caliber did Patton say was the most important element in winning World War II?

          • ob_one1963

            Very ambiguous statement Dylan. Define individuals. Dealer to dealer? Owner to owner? Either way, read my comment on gun transfers and straw sales.

          • Nancy Toney

            No, that isn’t a myth. I attended a gun show once, and I am embarrassed to say that. And you could buy a gun there, and walk away with the gun. I’m not anti gun. I own them. But uh the reality is guns are way too easy to get and there are guns we simply DO NOT need to own and there are mentally disturbed people who do not need a gun at all. Then again we can’t even get insurance to cover the cost of a psychiatrist to treat people for their ilnesses correctly so we can kiss ever having any sort of reform that identifies crazies and keeps guns out of their hands.

          • ob_one1963

            What state did you attend the gun show? Please re-read what I posted above. I can personally walk into a gun show, show my conceal carry license which permits me to purchase a firearm as long as my permit is valid and current, fill out the paperwork, have the FFL call the ATF (this is a federal, not state requirement) then pay for the firearm and walk out of the gun show with it. This is no different than purchasing at a pawn shop, gun store, sporting goods store. IF you witnessed anything other, those people have committed a crime, more than likely a felony.

          • Scout

            less than 2% of gun crimes are committed with guns purchased at gun shows. -National Institute of Justice, the research arm of the U.S. Department of Justice

          • Nancy Toney

            If that were true, what difference does it make to the people who are alive today missing their loved ones, children even, because a nut mowed them down with a gun?

          • Scout

            What do you mean, what difference does it make? Have we outlawed driving because of people missing their loved ones -children even- who were mowed down in traffic? The rule of law is based on addressing objective reality. The fact is, legally owned guns take fewer lives than blunt instruments like baseball bats and hammers. Are you proposing to outlaw those? No, you’re not. Your “solution” would not prevent shootings. It wouldn’t prevent criminals -who BY DEFINITION don’t obey laws- from acquiring and using guns. Your “solution,” applied in France, surely didn’t prevent terrorists from getting and using guns. Your “solution,” applied in the UK has led to a truly staggering number of knife crimes. So let’s examine exactly what your “solution” would do, shall we? Ultimately your “solution” will escalate to total confiscation. Law-abiding citizens will choose to rebel or to comply. Eventual compliance (enforced by people with guns, by the way) comes about. Then the only folks with firepower are the non-law-abiding residents and the government, leaving the average person -who wasn’t about to use their gun in anything besides self-defense in the first place- with no effective means to resist those criminals (or the government, for that matter). Then what? At that point you’ll have destroyed the Bill of Rights, murdered countless gun owners who chose to resist, and STILL not have solved the problem.

          • stillwild1111

            Not possible. Dealers at gun shows still have to perform background checks. CA has the strictest gun laws in the country. You can’t purchase long guns, especially assault type rifles in another state and bring them across state lines without going through a dealer. No private citizen is going to sell guns to a damn muzzie. I doubt they even have gun shows in CA.

          • blue_persuasion

            Obama. He’s ALL about arming muzzie terrorists.

          • Nancy Toney

            As of now they weren’t ISIS terrorists unless we find a link. I wouldn’t be surprised if we do, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were just radicalized. It isn’t as if all white supremacists who have beat up or terrorized a Black person were directly affiliated with one of the known hate groups either. But they were Islamic terrorists who are sympathetic to Isis. The man was a US citizen and just like redneck Joe from Alamaba walks into a gun store and can purchase an arsenal, so can Mr. Mohammad the Muslim terrorist. All it takes is to be a US citizen without a felony. So, thank you NRA and stupid rednecks who can’t see two inches in front of their noses, you don’t get to have your cake and eat it too. Have a problem with US home grown terrorists who are Middle Eastern ancestry who are terrorists buying guns? Then support gun reform to keep certain guns out of the hands of all people. Newsflash, redneck Joe can also radicalize and become an ISIS supporter. We do have “white” people who convert. Some US citizens have moved to the Middle East and they clearly are not of Middle Eastern origin.

          • ob_one1963

            Nancy, you are incorrect, again. You DO NOT have to be a citizen to purchase a firearm. You DO have to complete a state issued background check, the dealer MUST call the BATF prior to the sale and register the firearm sale with them over the phone and give them all of the data from the form you just filled out. Most states have a waiting period. All states require a background check. This is federal law. In Minnesota, one has to complete a pre-purchase registration with their county. If they pass, they are issued a permit to purchase. They then go to the firearms store, fill out the federal form, purchase the firearm, and they can leave with it. California, you purchase 1st, then unless things have changed, you wait 2 weeks and can go pick it up.
            If people in this country truly knew of all the regulations and laws regarding firearms, they would be astonished.

          • stillwild1111

            Nancy – Their guns were purchased illegally. Background checks would have done no good anyway. Oh, and what about those pipe bombs? How long of a waiting period should there be for those?
            BTW, California is one of the strictest states in the country concerning guns, so how’s your NRA and redneck theory panning out there? They can’t legally go out of state and purchase assault rifles, period. They can’t purchase any firearms and bring them back into CA. They probably got them through Barry & Holder’s Fast & Furious illegal deal…

          • Nancy Toney

            I’m pretty sure you fashion pipe bombs. Then again I don’t buy pipe bombs or have ever wanted to own or use a pipe bomb. However if you can purchase a a freaking PIPE BOMB I wouldn’t be surprised. Gun reform is over due.

          • stillwild1111

            That’s just a retarded statement. There is NOWHERE that sells pipe bombs. They are illegal. You are really delusional on so many levels.

            I hope that one day you are caught in the middle of a crime where someone has a gun and you are scared for your life. What would you do if a conservative person also happened to be there, armed, and was able to either wound or kill the criminal OR disarm him and hold him until the police get there? Would you spit in his face and tell him you’d rather have been left alone and taken your chances with the nut job, or would you thank him for potentially saving your life?

            I happen to be very well trained, how and where is no ones business, but there are many women and men who are more than capable of handling a situation even though they look like regular people in street clothes, so keep your stupid comments to yourself. One of those people that you so easily insult and accuse of being incompetent might just save your ungrateful ass one day.

          • Nancy Toney

            Oh you don’t have to be a citizen. Well, don’t blame me, I support gun reform. Maybe you should too!

          • ob_one1963

            Which psycho are you referring to? If it’s the one I am thinking of, please don’t reply until you know your facts.

          • Scout

            OR…

          • Scout

            But really, …

          • boll ocks

            memes are so cool, you are a retard

          • stillwild1111

            No comeback, huh? Just name-calling. Real mature. Typical liberal tactics. No facts, no answers, no brains.

          • Nancy Toney

            I hope that wasn’t or me. Because I really don’t live to check these messages or “comeback”. IDGAF if you like what I say or if it makes sense to you. I just like being a mega bitch when I’m bored.

          • stillwild1111

            You must always be bored. Why are people like you always so pissed and angry at people who choose to believe in God when we really don’t care if you don’t.

          • Nancy Toney

            Why are Christians always trying to stick their religion in places it doesn’t belong? The answer to that question will also be the answer to your questions.

          • Byron Shutt

            Your mirror shows the real tard.

          • Nancy Toney

            Jeffrey Dahmer had a refrigerator full of them. Not to defend Muslims here but, when was the last time a Muslim cased out pretty young women, abducted them, then had sex with their dead bodies for days? We white people do some really messed up shit too. And don’t get me started on Albert fish and his belt made of human nipples or Gacy and his pension for having sex wit homeless gay boys and then murdering them and burying them under his house to which they started smelling after their bodies became congealed in the dirt.

            Oh what was that, Columbine was a few white boys. Children murdered by a white boy who just walked into the school and murdered them. Gosh, where’s the outrage White people? A boy made a video tape about how girls didn’t want to date him, then sprayed them at a party with bullets before killing himself. This is terrorism too. What’s that though? They are white, they aren’t Muslim. So…it’s not as bad. If you ask me the fucker holding the head up is as atrocious as someone shooting my mother or my child at a movie theater because th thinks he’s the freaking Joker. Or shooting Dimebag Darrel during a show plus a few fans because….why? Nobody knows. White people….always down playing our crimes. Have any of you fine upstanding Christian patriots asked where these murderers obtained their guns? They were US citizens just like the shooter in Cali. It ONLY matters to you that non whites cannot buy guns. Whites can own an arsenal and it’s perfectly normal nevertheless that over the last 15 years it’s been WHITE PEOPLE who have done nearly ALL of our mass shootings. One Musilm terrorist commits a mass shooting and it’s different? The only difference is motive but the outcome and the ease of purchasing weapons was the same.

          • Scout

            Ok, first of all, I guess your answer is “1991.”
            Next, you do understand that terrorism, to be considered terrorism, has to be politically motivated, right?
            Finally, Muslims can be White, Black, Brown… Muslims are people who follow the religion named Islam. — Every single one of those white criminals you mentioned have been punished (or are awaiting trial, hoping a Liberal judge will let them off). This isn’t an issue of race. How you GOT to race is rather mysterious.

          • Scout

            Fast – n – Furious

          • Nancy Toney

            Uhm….the male was a US citizen. So….anywhere. Because if you have a pulse you can buy a gun in the good ole USA.

          • ob_one1963

            Wrong. Simply wrong.

        • BobF50

          Starting? It’s generations now that have no sense of right and wrong which is what evil exist for. The ignorance of the people who think you can legislate morals instead of enforce them are the power of ISIS and other forms evil takes.

          • mdburke

            “think you can legislate morals instead of enforce them” don’t know what you mean by this? to legislate means to pass laws regarding something, how can you enforce something that isn’t a law? all of you who are pigeon holing these shooters before you know who they are or what motivated them are a big part of what is misguiding our country and causing more of this senseless violence. DAESHE will win when you start giving them credit for shit they had nothing to do with.

          • Nancy Toney

            No, we actually do know right from wrong. We know it’s just as wrong to judge people and base our laws on nomadic dessert dwelling fables in the Bible than it is to base our laws on nomadic dessert dwelling fables that exist in the Koran. You have an idea that generations now like Islam but hate Christians. No, we hate illogically basing our laws on religion and we hate people who are brainwashing both Christian followers and Islamic followers to perform hateful acts or speech that incite fear and cause death in our populations. Just because us younger generations are jumping to defend Christians when you put down our close friends and family who are LGBTQ doesn’t mean that we love Islam any more than you. We don’t. The time has came that Islam is now the perpetrator when in the Crusades, the Christians were. And we’re dealing with that, we should be dealing with it with more force, but either way, don’t expect us to take your side, we’re about done with Christianity as we have known it all together. In the USA we’re finally starting to move away from Christianity to go to spiritual but not religious, liberally Christian or Atheist. We’re catching up with Europe.

          • ob_one1963

            Nancy, I have no idea how old you are nor your relationship status or your educational background, all important in this discussion. I would “recommend” that you go out and purchase a book titled “The 5,000 year leap.” It is quite apparent with your comment above that you have a glaring lack of knowledge on the foundation of our country and it’s basis for our laws. I am not trying to pick a fight with you. I am not calling you ignorant as ignorance comes from wilfull refusal to examine facts. What I am trying to tell you is you are making comments that are factually untrue and you’re leaving yourself wide open to someone dismantling you in debate.

          • Scout

            “We” lmao. Still wrong about the Crusades, ma’am. Our laws, as an anthropologist will tell you, evolved out of the great traditions. Those traditions weren’t planned, but rather incorporated simple truisms which supported the growth and development of a successful society. Societies are typically unstable when murderers aren’t punished (thou shalt not kill). Likewise when lineage is destabilized through adultery (thou shalt not bang thy neighbor’s wife). Jewish and Islamic proscriptions against pork prevented their adherents from dying of trichinosis… While much doctrine was added later -probably as a way to simply control people- the underlying basis of most laws derived from the Abrahamic traditions (as well as the Hindi) are sound determinants of success for a society.

          • Nancy Toney

            Traditions are great, personally. Your traditions isn’t mine. You don’t want to traditionally eat something, don’t. That’s where traditions start and end, in your personal life. Period. We don’t base laws on traditions no matter how many of you get a hard on for thinking our founders took the bible and created our nation based on that bullshit. Most were agnostic.

          • Scout

            Hey, almost genius lady… if a person has a tradition, its a habit. When a people has a habit, its a tradition. We all agreed to use the same language. – My comment wasn’t about our founders, per se, who based their notions of law on the English Common system. I clearly illustrated that I was talking about the origins of society, and how religion and law were intertwined. Had there been no prohibition against pork, there likely would have been no stable society in southwest asia. Had there been no restrictions on mating habits of the married, inbreeding would likely have prevented that society from surviving. (If you bang your neighbor’s wife, there is little damage in the long run, until the offspring of that bang session ends up procreating with your other child -a half brother or sister- and squirting out a child with birth defects…) The BASIC laws that most societies have are the direct result of OUR -you can’t dodge what your ancestors did, sister- great traditions.

          • stillwild1111

            HA! Europe is falling apart!!! They are under muzzie genocide. Hey, why don’t you move there? You are still believing a lie about the Crusades. Well, that’s fine – Satan does that to weak minded people. But, you can check the history books for actual facts if you don’t want to believe people of faith.

          • Nancy Toney

            I would love to live in a European nation. Guess what? To live in one you have to actually either be a refugee which I am not OR PROVE to them that they NEED your services. They don’t just let you move like the USA does. And that is why some Euro nations are, and will always be better than we are. But then again, do you know what Europe consists of? Can you find the region on a map? Conservatives are highly lacking in geographical skills, including social geography.

            Imagine that, dumbass conservatives have no idea that Europe has better and more stringent immigration standards than we do. It’s just that Europe is an asshole where it needs to be, not across the board. People need to take shelter…NOT A PROBLEM. People want to just move and have babies and live off of the government….TOTAL PROBLEM. You actually have something in common with them in that one respect. Doesn’t it make you feel all icky?

          • Scout

            Satanical influence aside, you really just made Trump’s argument… feeling icky?

          • MeToo99

            Which European nations “are and have always been better than America”? You keep telling us how brilliant you are, although your posts indicate otherwise. But, if that is actually true, then I am certain there is at least ONE European country (that is better than the USA) that would be lucky to have your genius. Look around, and don’t forget to say good bye.
            I would think your dimwitted, half-baked response would make you feel all icky, but I think you enjoy yourself. How nice it must be to be so clueless that you don’t even know you are clueless.

          • Logic101

            Ignorance is bliss.

          • ayeinfidel2

            True that Nancy, My folks were in Canada a few yrs back and they said a lot of churches are being closed down and used as night clubs. Yes! Atheism is fast becoming a major force in Europe. Not to be a contrarian, the muslims are taking Europe over and i believe in about 20 yrs, it will be the dumbinant religion there.
            BTW Judaism is the root of the fairy tales, xianity and islam are its OFFSPRING, same story different actors.That is why they are called Abrahamic religions.. If any of you so called chosen of God read the buybull in its entirety, you’d become atheists. Where do you you guys think the muslims got their stoning, butchering people stories and all their funny views on homosexuality, dropping their seed on the ground was a sin,, menstruation, masturbation, women are inferior to men from? the holy buybull! You suckas, tithing and buying Rolexes to con men, the pastors, rabbis, imams KNOW they are taking you for a ride. If they believed in what they preach, they wouldn’t break the laws, supposedly divulged by GOD and written by uneducated desert dwellers, they were probably high on sacred Mushrooms. Am I kidding? HELL NO!
            Scout, i just read a few paragraphs down where you state that the Hindus got their ideas from the jews. Not really son, the Hammurabi code is not Hindu. it is Babylonian, Remember Iraq? the country we bombed into the stone age (without provocation?)
            BTW, the reason we are experiencing problems with the muslims is because we invaded Iraq, They are avenging the destruction’s of their mother lands and killing of innocent Middle Eastern peoples, How would we feel if we were invaded/attacked into submission and lost our liberty to invaders? The same thing these so called Terrorists are doing in the name of their religion. They have to hang on to something, just like the jews and xians..POOR THINGS!
            Blessed are the Ignorant. Afraid of going to hell? I am not! If heaven will be filled with ignorant bigots like some of these posters here, I don’t want to go there.

          • Nancy Toney

            There are many issues that present day western countries are into issues with Middle Eastern people. Politically yes it’s about literally raping the resources. However on the subject of ISIS it’s purely religious propaganda and brainwashing. Any nation who’s natural reserves get raped and the people never see a dime has every reason to be mad. This is religious. And this is a conservative site, all they care about is that they are muslim.

            So my point is that 1. Not all liberals like Islam and not all of us are afraid to call them Islamic terrorists or call out the fact that it’s religiously motivated. And that 2. we cannot refuse to acknowledge that Christians do the same things and have been for centuries but they do them in ways in which they can fly under the radar. For every gay teen who has hanged themselves because a Christian bully led them to do it, that’s just as bad as an Islamic terrorist shooting a person for being an infidel.

          • Logic101

            If you know right from wrong, the question being begged to be answered is, then why do YOU do wrong ?

          • ob_one1963

            We are raised with morals. No government nor entity can instill morals. We are in moral decay simply because the family unit has been trashed. Anyone with a few minutes I would recommend reading the Moynihan Report written in the early 60’s. Then look for the coincidental decay of society.

          • BobF50

            I would suggest you not pay much attention to ANYTHING from the 60s lol unless you’re down for a few hits of acid while doing so. I have to disagree that “we are raised with morals” but maybe you were and maybe I was but no no no SO MANY are not. I do not want government trying to instill anything and in fact that is basically what is in our constitution and why it was written to prevent them from doing so. This country was founding on a christian moral foundation whereas our governing documents were designed to protect that foundation and not legislate it away for profit like what is happening today with the biggest cancer to society the Legal Industry. I am going to tell you right now that if you had every person in this country write down the answer to this simple question “what are morals?” you would get an incoherent blathering of idiocracy that would resemble the 60s (on acid:).

          • Nancy Toney

            Blah blah blah, Christian morals – the majority of our founders were agnostic. Thomas Paine was a freaking Atheist and his best friend Thomas Jefferson hated organized religion. Damn, pick up some biographies will you?

          • BobF50

            You pic and choose what you want to support your hate and ignore the overwhelming facts.

          • Nancy Toney

            Morality is subjective. We are all raised with morals. In your house your moral may be that your kids can’t watch an R rated movie until they are 17. In mine it may be that a child can watch an R rated movie at any age so as long as it doesn’t show two people having sex (Only because I want my child’s first thoughts of the naked human form to be one that details functionality and not looks as breast as funbags). It’s all totally subjective. You cannot force your morals on me. I’ll not force mine on yours but I will force you to not discriminate and sometimes you idiots think that’s forcing others morals onto you. Oh well, I have some Puffs if you need to cry. How you conduct your personal life in your own home is your business. I don’t read conservative books. And I won’t. I’m not interested in your 1950’s utopia. I like my society and the only decay I see is that of big banks and wallstreet and those corporations who refuse to pay people a living wage. I’ll have nothing to do with the baby boomers or their ideals that have caused MY generation to have to come up with new ways to conduct OUR business and change OUR world to mitigate all the damage the “Leave it to Beavers” have left for us to clean up. Thanks for the pollution and the destruction of unions and the housing bubble as well as skyrocketing student loan prices. And thanks for kicking dirt in peoples faces telling us all to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps because when you graduated your pathetic high school you were able to get some blue collar job making enough to feed your entire family for about three decades until it crashed down on you. You people should have went to college instead of working the assembly line. So, no, this is OUR time and OUR nation and once we deal with the terrorists, the bible freaks, the GOP and get our country back to taking care of it’s people you’ll be shitting your pants in a nursing home and it won’t matter anyway. Our social program will give you three hots, a cot and if you are lucky you’ll have a nursing assistant who is paid enough to not make you wait just a tad bit too long in your poop filled drawers out of spite of her measly paycheck that she deserves to be far more for her services.

          • ob_one1963

            “I like my society and the only decay I see is that of big banks and wallstreet and those corporations who refuse to pay people a living wage.” So Nancy, while in college, did you take a class in economics? And if so was it taught by someone other than Paul Krugman? Here’s the scoop. You piss and moan about big banks. Banks will always exist. However, socialists have put big banks and wall street into their collective pockets through horrific legislation designed to crush competition. Dodd-Frank is destroying the small town bank. ACA is destroying the local health clinic. Why do you see larger hospitals now becoming chains and moving into the countryside? THAT is destroying wages Nancy. Doctors now predominantly do not own their own practices anymore, and everyone under them has their wage dictated to them. United Health Group is now not going to offer coverage for ACA. This is a huge first step, designed by your socialist hero Obama, to put everyone in this country under the socialist wing of government care. Those people forced out of the exchange will be morphed into Medicare. While you may think that is wonderful, wait until you see your paycheck. And my dear, your comment about old folks??? None of us are getting any younger. You too will be old some day. You too will need increased medical care. And my dear, it will simply not be there for you. This is the sad effect we see with socialists. Many cannot simply look past their noses. So yes, yuk it up. Have your orgies, gang bangs, 3 on 1’s, and live life in fantasy. If you and your feelow socialists get your way, it will come crashing down. The markers are laid. All you have to do is look around.
            As for your living wage comment… This shows the ignorance of the left. It’s not a problem for a business to raise wages to $15 an hour
            (I also wonder where $15hr came from. In NYC, $15hr is a pittance)

            They simply pass on the cost to the consumer. Everything else will follow suit. It is purely asinine to think WalMart can pay $15hr and not raise their prices. So exploring your theory, why not raise everyones wage to $30hr? Then everything at WalMart will rise in cost about 300%. Same with fuel. Same with every commodity. Come on Nancy, you say you’re college educated. Use your head. You truly don’t see this???

        • Deborah A. Davis

          your an idiot for blaming these attacks on liberals.

          • llred

            Why? Liberals usually blame white, right wing Christians. Or are you liberals the only ones that can point fingers. How’s it feel to have them pointed back at you liberal hypocrites?

          • marvin

            GET IT STRAIGHT – the terms liberal vs conservative are really simple to those who know the language – liberal means open to change – conservative means conserve the status quo. Conservatism is what won’t allow the sickness in America to change. Those who are profiting by the status quo must continue to do so irrespective to the harm that comes to others.

            Obama is an idiot, but your gun policies are idiotic

          • Clifton Ralph Gray

            I dare you to walk in a Muslim no go area without a gun. You won’t end up in a real healthy condition. These creeps of Satan are getting their guns from the stashes that have been smuggled in and put in hiding. There is no better way to have arms in a gun free state or city. This is all preplanned by Obama the Imam leader. If you took time to look and understand the people doing the shootings were mentally ill and on heavy mind altering drugs proven by the condition of their eyes and spasmodic movements. I could see their condition and am only a US ARMY MEDIC. Go back and look at every one of the last 4 killers then see if you agree.

          • john_willow

            You stupid asshole. Dearborn, Micigan is full of Arabs going about their business. I wouldn’t be threatened there in the least. Stop peddling your hatred.

          • boll ocks

            When you invoke Satan it doesn’t really ingratiate you with the people who aren’t fucking idiots. Just so you know.

          • George

            It doesn’t matter liberal or conservative right or left these attacks are against Americans and that’s who we should be helping not refugees or war torn countries we as Americans need to stand up band together and put blame were it belongs not on guns or true Americans

          • Alex Iturbe

            Why the fuck do you foolish humans choose to attack each other with bullshit left and right wing ideologies. Why not be more cohesive? Also, I can understand the subconscious desire in humans to want to fall in line behind some collective mindset, but to be so simple minded to choose one of only two sides? Be more open minded about life, politics, economy. Read books, and stop following what the media tells you to do, you mindless drones. This message is for stupid liberals, as well as stubborn conservatives. ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHIT!

          • usaok59

            I might be more inclined to follow your advice if you hadn’t used the f word to insult us with first.

          • boll ocks

            I bow to our new alien overlord, Alex Iturbe.

          • boll ocks

            It feels great, because it is so stupid it hurts.

          • MeToo99

            Did I blame the attacks on liberals? No. Are the liberals carefully trying not admit these attackers are/were middle eastern? Yes. Did the liberals blame the Colorado Springs attacks on Christians? Yes. Are they still? Yes. Is there ANY evidence of that? Nope. Try and read with a little comprehension.

          • boll ocks

            oh no, not a tiny bit of evidence. Except for the fucking overwhelming amount of evidence that exists in the REAL WORLD where we all live. But not you apparently.

          • MeToo99

            Looks like Nancy Toney’s babysitter showed up to try and defend her.

          • Allen Poprik

            Your an idiot for not blaming liberals for all the problems in this country, especially these terrorist attacks.

          • boll ocks

            Nanny nanny boo boo.

        • I can admit it, but so what?

          • MeToo99

            The problem is, when the Colorado Springs shooting happened, the left was quick to blame Christians, “right wing tea baggers”, pro life radicals, even Christian “terrorists.” Fact is, none of that has proven to be true. When they KNEW is was someone of Middle Easter descent…silence. There has not been a single outcry from the left regarding the religion of peace. Was this motivated by a jihadist thought? Doesn’t appear so at this point. See what happens when people wait for facts and do not speculate? The agenda is to smear Christians and anyone on the right, and to protect our Muslim neighbors.

          • George

            The only people we should be protecting is Americans and the only one that can do that is Americans with guns Obama and his gun control cannot protect anyone they can’t even stop white house fence jumpers!!

          • James

            Syed Farooq is an american… probably with an american bought AR15. I’m not for gun control, but tactical gear isn’t a jihadist style choice… it the availability of military grade equipment to the regular citizen.

          • George

            NOT AN AMERICAN AT ALL!!!! A true American would not induce terrorism on his fellow American. Also why does it matter if it is an ar15 or a cricket .22 honest god fearing Americans don’t do this BS

          • Stephen McCafferty

            ummmmmmm “a true american would not induce terrorism”….how about the Unabomber? how about McVee in oklahoma? how about the two kids in columbine? are you kidding me George?!!! Comeon!

          • George

            All phsycos

          • boll ocks

            omg you cant make this shit up

          • George

            So your saying mcvee was not a phsyc ?

          • George

            Just because your voter status says your are an American citizen does not mean your an American. This does not mean your values are life liberty and the persuit of happiness. True Americans believe in the constitution the right to free speech, the right to bare arms

          • Rory Carr

            “The right to bare arms” = The right to roll up our sleeves (to show our NRA tattoos ?)

          • George

            Well pal if this country ever gets invaded by anyone I’ll be in front with the rest of the Americans who actually have balls and you can hide behind the fridge and stare at your tattoos!

          • Nancy Toney

            LOL right.

            I’m a socially liberal, pro choice, feminist, Atheist and I own guns. I know how to fire wapons and I’m not afraid of using them. We do exist. And we’re far more logical with a gun than a crazy redneck. And people who are afraid of guns get on our nerves as much as they do anyone else.

            I’m also not fat unlike the majority of our nation, I don’t fill myself with lard and fried chicken so thankfully I can run. Considering the majority of gun nuts are stupid rednecks from the states that are full of diabetes and heart disease, I’ll pass on ever thinking they would be helpful in a domestic war. They will be one of the first to die, either from a heart attack, or by using the logic of dodgeball. Fat people are the easiest to hit, they move slow, and are a larger target.

          • George

            Don’t really care about your political status or religious beliefs your beliefs are yours. I personally am a redneck who also owns guns .I’m 155lbs trained in martial arts and can keep up with you so no matter your beliefs if there is a domestic war I’ll have your back because I am an American. That is it your fighting for America and not terrorists

          • ob_one1963

            Way to paint an entire class of people Nancy. What I would ask of you is examine YOUR party. This is something the left does/will not do. Self examination. Ask yourself, what has my party done for the country? Instead, we hear the steady drone from the left of blaming every mis-deed on the right. Also ask yourself this… Out of the past tragic shootings we have seen, of what political persuasion were those folks affiliated with? What was their mental status? How did they obtain their firearms? And which party wants to keep heaping restrictive laws and regulations on the firearms industry?
            I think George and I are setting a great example. You intone we both eat lard and fried chicken. I too am trained in martial arts. I am 5′ 11″ and 190 lbs. Not bad for 50+ years of life. I am also an expert marksman both rifle and handgun. I coach hockey. I am employed full time. I am married with a wonderful wife and kids. I enjoy the odd beer. I guess if that’s your definition of a redneck, so be it. Take some advice Nancy, be very very careful when you broad brush a group of people.

          • boll ocks

            Too bad you are a retard though.

          • Nancy Toney

            I don’t own the party. I just clicked the box next to “democat” because they represent the majority of my views. You act like now that MY PERSONAL views need examined. No, they do not. I am who I am, and if you don’t like it, you can sail on because I live for me, not you. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT MY PARTY. I just care that I can obtain an abortion, that if I were to decide I wanted to marry a woman I could do that and that poor people can get welfare. I’m a social liberal. So, IDGAF what you do on the weekend with your martial arts or whatever. Doesn’t change my view one bit.

          • ob_one1963

            Very bitter Nancy. Sit back, put your feet up, and enjoy a beer. Close your eyes and think what a wonderful country you are blessed to live in.

          • Nancy Toney

            NRA tattoos done by their cousin using a cheap tattoo gun on a meth binge. It’s ok, he learned how to do it in prison, so he’s qualified.

          • Nancy Toney

            Yes, if you are legally an American you are an American citizen. Your ideals or values isn’t what qualifies you as an American. You obviously need a civics lesson. The constitution isn’t believed in, it’s not a religion. And those “patriots” who “believe in” the Constitution only do so because they understand to a degree the first two amendments. When it comes to abortion the 9th and 14th amendment is ignored by so called “patriots”. Like the bible, you people cherry pick what you want and don’t want to “believe in”.

          • George

            Me Toney my wife and I in may are adopting a child in that was going to be aborted otherwise by a family member I am not very happy with does that make me a bad person in regaurds with your values or views I think not! Lady I am a true patriot redneck or not and also believe ob_one1963 is also

          • boll ocks

            You are the worst person. Ever. I wish that you were banned from the Internet, because at some point you actually had to have a brain to be able to use a computer. Too bad those times are long gone.

          • George

            Ignorant liberal muzzie loving , abortionist , pricks like yourself are the whole reason this country is going to hell in a hand basket these are grown up conversations for people that haven’t been asleep the last 10 years!!!

          • George

            I do have a brain that is why I am not a Muslim, liberal, Obama loving degenerate unlike you. I am a patriot, redneck, and American citizen the fact that you cannot see what is happening in this country leads me to a conclusion. #1 you were born completely ignorant or #2 your in your moms basement reading your comic books and pretending to be intelligent. Well I’m sorry to tell you it isn’t working for ya pal

          • George

            I don’t believe in people twisting the constitution to suite their own beliefs and rhetoric

          • boll ocks

            I love “suiteing’ myself, as that is not a thing.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Another ridiculously stupid comment by a moonbat.

          • Nancy Toney

            Moonbat? IDK if I should be honored or insulted. I quite like our Moon. Is there something I am unaware of that makes our moon undesirable that in being called a moon bat that I should feel shame?

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Moonbat describes you to a tee….and it’s not flattering. Only a moonbat would be confused.

          • boll ocks

            True Americans can spell words correctly, so you must be a terrorist.

          • boll ocks

            George is a goddamn fucking idiot, no use trying to appeal to his common sense as he has none.

          • Nancy Toney

            They are white.

          • Nancy Toney

            He did buy it at a US gun store just like someone who is a white guy named Bob Smith from small town USA could buy the same thing. There is no Jihadist style of choice. And ISIS isn’t Jihad. ISIS is actually killing Jihadists. Isis is their own sect of Islam that is more radical than anything we’ve known of Jihad. It’s like having Pentecostals fighting Baptists then along comes Catholics who tell the other two they are wrong and should die if they don’t start worshiping God the way Catholics do. Apply that concept to Jihad, non radicalized Islam and ISIS and that’s what is going on. ISIS gave instructions to any and all sympathizers abroad that if they can’t come to the Middle East to fight, they should kill where they are, however they can. They don’t care how you kill, they just want you to kill. they are instructed to kill any and all people who do not follow Islam the way ISIS intends it to be followed. That includes killing Shia Muslims, Sunni Muslims who disagree with any part of the Sunni belief and adhere to only parts of it, Christians, Jews, Atheists, Taoists, Buddhists, Wiccans, etc. It includes killing the children of these people unless the children can be used for ISIS purposes. Children who can be radicalzed, forced to fight or young girls of reproductive age who can be used to have their babies are enslaved. Girls under reproductive age are killed, and women are killed depending on if they are suitable for reproduction or are too much of a hassle to try to enslave.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Is there anything you actually understand? ISIS has seized vast territories in western and northern Iraq, there have been frequent accounts of fighters’ capturing groups of people and releasing the Sunnis while the Shias are singled out for execution. Please stop posting your ridiculous nonsense. It’s quite clear you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

          • Nancy Toney

            Gosh, I said that. Your reading comprehension sucks.

          • The possibility that this was motivated by Jihadist thought is entirely real. He was recently visiting Saudi Arabia. For what? The problem with these guys is, middle eastern descent (although is Pakistan really the “Middle East”?) and religion aside, these people have zero paper trail, no rants on FB, etc. so its hard to say. Maybe they will have material in their home to serve as evidence.

            “Fact is, none of that has proven to be true.” I disagree. This guy was muttering about “baby parts” and it seems that anti PP rhetoric and the notion of Godly forgiveness played into his motivation.

          • MeToo99

            I have not heard that there is actual evidence that he said anything about baby parts. I think that was made up to fit the narrative. Additionally, if PP was the motivation for his attack it seems that he would have shot up the place, including employees and patients. As it is, none of these people were the victims. This man is not known to any of the Christian churches or pro life groups. Just admit that all the liberals jumped the gun with accusations, and are now too unethical to admit they were wrong. So people like you keep pushing the narrative.

          • Well the good news is that the attacker is alive and subject to questioning, testimony, etc. So we may have further evidence.

            moreover, accounts from his ex-wife:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/us/robert-dear-planned-parenthood-shooting.html?_r=0

            Also from this same article:

            “A number of people who knew Mr. Dear said he was a staunch abortion opponent. Ms. Micheau, 60, said in a brief interview Tuesday that late in her marriage to Mr. Dear, he told her that he had put glue in the locks of a Planned Parenthood location in Charleston.”

            “He was very proud of himself that he’d gone over and jammed up their locks with glue so that they couldn’t get in,” she said.

            “After his arrest, Mr. Dear said “no more baby parts” to investigators, a law enforcement official said.”

          • MeToo99

            NY Times? Just barely not a hack. It is very biased source. Still, if he wanted to shoot up PP why were NONE of the victims employees or patients? He had plenty of time to do damage to these people. An ex-wife, again, hardly a source. But you are right, he is alive and will be questioned.

          • Go read the “Blood Guilt” material of Trey Newman. He holds the people going into PP accountable.

            I concede tho, that the guy was nuts and there isn’t exactly a clear headed logic to who he did and didn’t kill. Not everything always adds up.

            But I cannot convince you that the NYT is a legitimate news source, certainly. Believe what you want – you guys are like that.

          • MeToo99

            If the NYT wants to be more than a hack, I guess it should try actually reporting news as opposed to politicizing it. If you like your news spun, into a left leaning agenda, then NYT is for you. As for Blood Guilt, I will check it out. But if the people going into PP are not accountable for their actions, who is? If PP wants to collect tax dollars, and do abortions, and harvest baby parts for sale, then they should be prepared to take the heat. Hiding behind “women’s health” is weak. FTR, I do not want PP closed down, nor do I think abortion should be illegal. But I do not think tax dollars should pay for it. If the harvesting baby parts doesn’t offend you, there is something wrong with you. If it wasn’t viable human parts, there would be no market for it.

          • if you have a problem with something, then we have political resource to fix it. Taking the law into your own hands is not the solution.

            Recognize that you and your rhetoric is motivating the mentally unstable terrorists.

          • MeToo99

            That is probably the most pathetic thing I have read all day. You cannot be serious.

          • WHY NOT?

            The beautiful virtue of what I’m arguing here is one of the defining characteristics of American political culture.

            Prior to America’s invention, to change the powers that be there had to be violent overthrow.

            But with our democratic republic. A nation of laws not monarchs… we transition power based on the will of the people every few years. And we transition legislators. And we transition SCOTUS judges.

            You don’t like abortion fine. But you take it to your Congressmen. You make this a hot topic when SCOTUS nominees come up.

            But you don’t target and shoot people. Dr. George Tiller etc.

          • MeToo99

            No kidding? Who said that shooting people was the answer? Not me. I know liberals like yourself make giant leaps into la la land, but whatever. You are not even worth taking seriously.

          • “Who said that shooting people was the answer? ”

            what’s this then?

            “If PP wants to collect tax dollars, and do abortions, and harvest baby parts for sale, then they should be prepared to take the heat. ”

            you are just as slippery and fast and loose with your statements as Trump and Cruz.

          • illnino4545

            No one deserves to die. Everyone can change. Even if you don’t agree with someone, talking is the best way. Shooting and violence causes one to loose the moral high ground. Their cause looses validity. It has been that way since the dawn of time.

          • Agreed.

            But we should all be concerned and all assume responsibility to make sure this point isn’t lost amidst all the fiery rhetoric.

          • illnino4545

            I agree. But fiery rhetoric from both sides of the system is done by design. It is used to divide. People are much easier to control when divided. I know you understand this based off of your calling card 🙂

          • yes, I suppose. I have my own brand of firebrand.

            my intent is not to control… as far as division, let’s just say I find there to be unholy alliances. I seek to spread truth and unite people toward our best interests.

            then again… ha, its hard to say anything as a mea culpa, such as this, without seeing how someone on the other side would see themselves similarly.

            happy friday.

          • illnino4545

            It is good to have passion for what you believe in. Happy Friday to you too. Can’t wait for work to end!

          • MeToo99

            Are you okay? That was a giant leap from accepting criticism to shooting people. PP LOVES the attention in the media. It has all the whack job leftists getting hysterical because people with an actual brain and conscience acknowledge that abortion is murder, and harvesting baby parts for sale is disgusting. Sorry, but the ones opposed to murder of unborn children, are also opposed to the murder of those whose mothers actually allowed them to have a life. YOU are the one picking and choosing which life has value. Every time someone like you starts to talk, I am more and more convinced that liberalism is a mental disorder.

          • in the sense of a rule that is accepted by society in general, murder is a crime, and (along with only treason, I think) is a “capital offense”. E.g. traditionally punishable by death penalty.

            its a concept nearly as old as law itself: “let the punishment fit the crime”.

            So when we have a voice in our social discourse saying:
            “X is committing murder!!”

            … it is not too far off from:
            “These people should be punished with death!”

            And if you think I’m being too crazy for saying this then let’s add to it this rhetoric from Trey Newman who is very focused on “Blood Guilt” and attaches a lot of meaning and implications around it.

            SO-
            1. I think you need to either acknowledge this connection (or explain where what I’m saying is not so.)
            2. Then, given this connection, when people are exercising their free speech to criticize PP (which they have the right to do, of course) then as responsible lawful people… shouldn’t we also be very clear about what are and are not appropriate responses to the criticism??

            And if we fail to be clear… and people die as a result… then we are REALLY being irresponsible when making such criticisms!!

          • MeToo99

            I think not killing people you disagree with is crystal clear. There are a few nut jobs that will not get nor heed that message. You are rambling on and on like the VAST majority of society handles their grievances by shooting people. They don’t. So your point is moot.

          • It’s not rambling. Although maybe too long for certain attention spans.

            “I think not killing people you disagree with is crystal clear.” It’s not to the few that kill.

            “You are rambling on and on like the VAST majority of society handles their grievances by shooting people. They don’t.”

            If your point is that there is no problem then you are ridiculous.

          • MeToo99

            You are rambling and being hysterical because you buy into the left wing idiocy. Fact: The vast majority of Americans do not kill, stab, or maim the people they disagree with. Additionally, the vast majority of Americans do not kill, shoot, stab, or maim people they dislike, even hate. Most do not even seek revenge when wronged. You are ridiculous because you are drawing conclusions that simply do not add up.

          • boll ocks

            I wish someone would have aborted you, then this world would be a better place.

          • MeToo99

            Oh brother, is that really your best response? Go play with Nancy, your both of similar intellect and hate. Perhaps you are Nancy and you created a new name to pretend that someone agrees with the nonsense you “both” sputter.

          • boll ocks

            You sir are the clown car of rhetoric. I can only blame your lack of reading skills for your shitty logical skills.

          • MeToo99

            So what you are saying is that you cannot defend your own weak accusations.

          • Nancy Toney

            Abortion clinics have been targets for murders for decades. Why? Fringe Christians who believe that abortion is a murder despite the fact that murder is clearly illegal in our nation and our lawmakers as well as the SCOTUS would address that if it were actually murder. The baby parts video is just another propaganda film intended to get people upset and for what reason? To inspire attacks on abortion clinics and for Politicians on the right to “pretend” and “promise” to their constituents that they will end PP and gain votes for the election. NOBODY will stop legal abortion, they have had every opportunity to do so and it’s actually supported by the 9th and 14th amendments of our US Constitution so say the majority of the SCOTUS justices in Roe V. Wade. And if people are so stupid they don’t understand what that ruling means then there’s why the hell are they even a citizen of our nation? No Politician is interested in stopping abortion despite the promises they make. Why? Because rich women actually can afford to PAY for them and rich women do get abortions all the time. And they’d rather NOT have abortions in alley’s because rich people are a bit above that sort of medical treatment. Fact is, a lot of these Politicians have paid for their mistresses to have abortions, even the conservative ones. Women who provide escort services or BDSM services in Washington D.C. have been shown that their bookings are over full during the Republican National Convention. There shouldn’t be any question as to why this is. The only people who’s getting played like a fiddle are the ones who believe the video is real, act on it, and give their votes to a person who promises to do the impossible.

            Christians and nuts who believe these videos are real actually DO thing PP is a horrible organization and actually want them shut down and will do anything to shut them down. But they can’t be shut down. However, if abortion is murder to these morons despite that it doesn’t fit the legal definition of murder, I don’t see the point is committing actual legal and punishable murder to kill the doctors, staff and patients at a clinic (along with that patients unborn child that you are trying to SAVE) to prove that you don’t support the “murder” of humans. But hey, I may just be too smart for these mouth breathers to be able to understand the crazy that goes on in their head. And to all Christians who support this nonsense, the Bible does not call for the murder of people who are committing sins against God. Even though Abortion isn’t mentioned in the Bible as a sin, murder is and the Bible does not punish others for the sins of a few. You are punished for YOUR sins. So all the Christians who would kill or have killed abortion supporters and facilitators or who have hurt people for being LGBTQ, you will be punished by your God and if you think asking for forgiveness will help, it won’t. I do think you actually have to truly BE SORRY, since God is like Santa, and he knows if you are truly good or bad. Jesus said turn the other cheek. Or, do Christians ever really care about what Jesus said?

          • MeToo99

            Aside from all of your irrational liberal hysteria, nobody said anything about sending abortion back to the alleys. Most of your post is blah blah blah… Please go back to the liberal boards where all the other whiny, bigoted, hateful liberals congratulate themselves for being so “progressive”.

          • boll ocks

            fuck this board right in it’s ass

          • MeToo99

            Does this mean you will go back to the liberal boards where everyone will be happy to see your short-sighted MSNBC driven nonsense?

          • Nancy Toney

            Conservatives secretly love anal sex anyway. But don’t think they’d ever admit that.

          • Nancy Toney

            I didn’t even say anything about back alley abortions.

          • tpagrl7

            You are a complete lunatic who talks in circles. Please have yourself checked at your local hospital. Good luck.

          • boll ocks

            I think that something isn’t true, therefore it isn’t. It must be a “false flag”. What a crock of excrement.

          • MeToo99

            You believe what you want. I think it’s BS. I would think you would be able to see that since you are most familiar with “crocks of excrement.”

          • john_willow

            He was without question motivated by right-wing hate mongerers.

          • you mean Christian right wing hate mongerers or Muslim right wing hate-mongerers?

          • john_willow

            How about we warn the Muslim neighbors about you?

          • MeToo99

            Go ahead. What are you going to warn them about? Liberals like you ARE the problem.

          • Nancy Toney

            This is about radical religion. Not about liberals.

          • ob_one1963

            Nancy, literally everything you have written has intoned liberalism. Read your post above…

          • Nancy Toney

            That’s probably because I AM A LIBERAL. I’m liberal, I was born as a free spirit and a free thinker…ok..I was liberal before I was old enough to even know that a party represented my views or what a liberal was. You think we become 18 and pick a party and go..welp, they are against this, I better be too. No…..no that’s not how it works for some of us who are actually real people who express our views regardless of who likes them or not. At my core, fuck politics, I AM a liberal person. Period. I was the elementary school kid reading books about ecosystems and global warming before it was a “thing”. The kid who won the science fair projects, the kid who planted trees because trees are helpful and pretty or the teen girl who was like yep probably going to have sex with my boyfriend, better tell my parents I’d like some birth control because that’s the SMART thing to do….yeah…kids can be liberals. And liberal kids grow up to be liberal adults and we join the democratic party because the GOP has nothing for us because our PERSONALITY is one that tends to gravitate toward liberal ideals.

          • MeToo99

            Liberals defending this radical religion and not calling it what it is, is all about liberals. That is on YOU.

          • Nancy Toney

            Obviously you have read nothing I’ve said about Muslims.

          • boll ocks

            Wow, you totally just did the “im rubber you are glue, bounces off me and sticks on you” thing from elementary school. You are obviously a master debater

          • MeToo99

            I am just waiting for you to tell me what you are going to warn them about. It was a dumb comment and now you cannot even defend it.

          • xpatYankeeCurmudgeon

            Leftoid losers like you crave dhimmitude.

          • boll ocks

            wtf are you even talking about! you make zero sense and logic is obviously not your friend

          • MeToo99

            I’m sorry you can’t keep up. Not my problem.

          • Nancy Toney

            Yeah, it’s the fault of the anti abortion crowd and their stupid baby parts for sale videos. See what lies do.

          • MeToo99

            Stupid baby parts? What kind of a person is so okay with that, that they refer to it as “stupid baby parts”. You are a special kind of vile.

        • marvin

          the problem, among others, is that without the ease of obtaining the instruments of death, and if these middle east maniacs would have to import their weapons, there would have been a chance to track them before the killings occurred. As it is apparently all the death material was just delivered to their doors because getting this stuff is too fucking easy in the USA

          • Teresa Howell

            You know the old saying its to late to corral the horse once its out. Same way with guns the bad guys have them now and no way should we not protect our selves. The gangs have them and everyone wants us to get rid of them. I do not think so. I think Obama is more afraid of people coming after him. I have never owned a gun but given all the Syrians he is letting in I personally am thinking about getting one. They are un Vetted because he is doing it so fast. And our so called boarders that is a joke. ISIS is already here and already training in many states.

          • Fred Smith

            I am a US citizen retired from the military and it took OPM 6 months to vet me for a security clearance so there is no way they can even closely vet these muslimes the zero is letting in the country

          • Teresa Howell

            Totally agree they are trying to claim they vetted the woman who was killed. If this is how they vet them then what in the world is gonna happen with these they cannot vet. They should keep them out of here period.

          • stillwild1111

            Get your training and then get your conceal carry permit/license. Practice and bring your firearm with you everywhere you go. You will need it when you least expect it. It’s better to have it and never have to use it, than need it and not have it or have it locked in your vehicle. I remember the woman whose parents were killed in the restaurant right in front of her eyes because her weapon was in her car.
            The life you save may be a loved ones or a stranger, or even your own.

          • Teresa Howell

            Have never owned a gun but we are looking into getting one for sure now.

          • Nancy Toney

            You are more likely to be a victim of a home invasion than a terrorist. So all the years you didn’t own a gun, you were falsely feeling secure. Whatever makes you buy one now.

          • ob_one1963
          • Nancy Toney

            There is very little chance I’ll need to shoot someone while shopping for lettuce in Kroger. I think smart people are smart enough know when and where it is appropriate to carry their firearm and where it’s going to be unlikely ever needed. The difference between smart gun owners and crazy ones is that smart ones don’t scare the shit out of people with their guns by showing up with one in say, Chuck E Cheeses.

          • ob_one1963
          • ob_one1963
          • MeToo99

            And if not guns, they would have made bombs, or beheaded them. When someone is set on revenge, murder, violence… they will find it. California has strict gun laws, so does Chicago and yet there is gun violence in these 2 places all of the time.

          • Adam Lee

            Not really. The SB shooter and everybody else who doesn’t have a crime record can purchase multiple guns in California.

          • MeToo99

            But by golly, they kept the guns out of the hands of the criminals!

          • stillwild1111

            They had at least 3 pipe bombs on them and in the car when they were captured. There were more at the house in the garage, lots of IED’s at their house, etc. This wasn’t a spur of the moment rampage – this was planned out for a while.

          • MeToo99

            This and more…

          • stillwild1111

            If any of the victims had been armed perhaps fewer or even none would have been killed except the terrorists.
            An armed society is a polite society.

          • Nancy Toney

            I don’t trust people to get my fast food order right. I do not trust them to start firing back at gunmen and not hit unintended targets. PEOPLE are not trained in tactical engagement. I don’t care what your little fancy schmancy fire range attendant blows up your rear after your practice session. Please, for the love of all humanity, don’t be a vigilante. If you shot me and I lived I’d sue your ass off.

          • ob_one1963

            Another statement that is total bullshit. “As it is apparently” Hypothesizing. You cannot order guns online and have them delivered to your door unless you possess and FFL. If I purchase a firearm online, that gun BY LAW has to be delivered to a gun shop or FFL, period. And most gun shops will not take possession of that firearm until you clear it with them first.

        • Bill Povse

          Actually the guy was an born in the US American citizen. You need to fact check things before you post.

          • MeToo99

            He is still of middle eastern descent, just as I am of Italian descent. I really don’t give a hoot where he was born. If he is jumping on the radical, anti-American bandwagon it is relevant.

          • stillwild1111

            So what? What the hell difference does that make. What, he can’t be a radical islamist filthy muzzie and commit jihad in the name of Allah?
            And what’s your point anyway?

        • stillwild1111

          I guess it’s also the Republicans fault that the muzzies had pipe bombs on them. What kind of laws are they going to pass when suicide bombers start their sh*t?

          • MeToo99

            Republicans? Aren’t they just democrat light? There are so few republicans actually representing the people who elected them. We have all kinds of laws to protect us from crime. Many of them are not even enforced. As for Muslim terrorist? It isn’t the conservative half of this country that wants to play politically correct and pretend their ideology even remotely complies with American law and values.

        • Nancy Toney

          I am a liberal and I have no problem admitting they are Islamic terrorists. Not all liberals refuse to use the words “Islam” and “terrorist” in the same context. Islam IS a religion of violence for most of the world, ALL radicalized religious groups need to be dealt with. Then again, I am an Atheist, and I have no qualms about also calling out Christianity for it’s atrocious attacks and hate crimes as well.

          • MeToo99

            FYI-all the guns used in this attack in San Bernardino were illegal and not compliant with California state law. Go figure. Had nothing to do with the NRA. I guess you may have a sliver of an argument when one of these nut jobs attacks an NRA meeting. Further, I’ll wait for anyone to act with violence on behalf of the NRA. Like a good liberal, you have all the MSNBC hysterical talking points down pat. Good for you. Again, full of hate and bigotry all the while thinking you are taking the high road.

          • stillwild1111

            You have absolutely no clue what Christianity is. Some people might lump together a bunch of Protestant and the Catholic religion and hand the title Christian Religion, but religion is man-made, and all people sin. God did not create religion. Why don’t you get out of the middle ages and live in the present? I can’t help what someone did before I was born, I can only account for what I do. I am not responsible for Polygamists any more than I’m responsible for pedophiles. You spit at what You deem are cults, because some parents choose to homeschool and not use birth control, yet you worship and celebrate the wiccans and tarot card readers, mediums and fortune tellers. You believe they are just expressing their artistic side and talents. Have you never done anything wrong? Have you never done something you wish you hadn’t? Have you never sinned? Until you find out what Christianity means I would suggest that you not throw that word around lightly as it means a great deal to people of faith who are truly saved by the blood of Jesus. Being part of a religion doesn’t make one a Christian anymore than eating cheese on your tomato sauce makes you a pizza!

          • Nancy Toney

            One of the reasons I’ll never be a Christian is that I do know what it is. You cannot live in the USA and NOT know what Christianity is.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Spoken like an ignorant liberal who’s never purchased or shot a gun in her wretched, miserable life… “Hold on guys, let me check the gun laws”, said NO CRIMINAL EVER!

          • Nancy Toney

            Really? Break into my home and you’ll meet my gun. Depending on which one I go for will depend on how many pieces of you someone will have to scrape off of the side of my wall. Do you think that liberals DON’T own guns? Why the hell would you think that? I’m a liberal from a family of farmers who are democrats who grew up raising red bone dogs for coon hunting. Not all liberals are afraid of guns. The process of buying a gun is simple. You show up, pick one out, fill out papers and if you arent a fucking criminal with a record VOILA, hello shiny new gun.

          • ob_one1963

            “The process of buying a gun is simple. You show up, pick one out, fill out papers and if you arent a fucking criminal with a record VOILA, hello shiny new gun.” Wrong again.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            It’s called our 2nd Amendment, toots. If you don’t like it, you’re free to leave this country. If you see no difference between Christianity and Islam today, you’re dumber than initially perceived.

        • boll ocks

          what a jackass you are. Simple minded town fool

          • MeToo99

            Getting your diaper in a wad are you? I guess if I were dumb enough to be a liberal, I would also get all offended (your hallmark response to everything) by the obvious lack of ethics, honesty, and integrity of most of the leftists talking about this.

      • Dylan Linzer

        Yes because having people with guns in areas with mass amount of people will never go wrong. Is blood on the NRA’s hands when someone shoots a bunch of people at a club because someone is drunk and has a gun?

        • Logic101

          Criminals do not care about ‘gun free zones’ , They call them shooting galleries. The blood is on the hands of those who see fit to disarm citizens so that the terrorist can kill w/o the fear of defensive fire.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Yes I am sure all criminals think about shooting everybody. Mass shooters are still a small population. I think if you allowed guns everywhere you would have a lot more shootings and not for any cause but because they are pist at some random dude and drunk with a gun. Or do you believe all gun owners are responsible gun owners?

          • Logic101

            Yes I know that those who buy guns illegally are criminals and use them in mass shootings, Detroit for example, Chicago as another, Oh wait, aren’t those ‘gun free zones’ ? and the murder rate by guns is..highest in the nation. These are not responsible gun owners. You blame the inanimate object for the crime, so I’m fat because of this spoon. If someone was drunk and pist at them, they could just claim road rage and then you can blame it on the car.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ever notice its cities with high poverty or did that stat get lost to you?

          • Logic101

            And DC ? high poverty ? So your point is high poverty equates to a higher murder rate and nothing to do with guns ?

          • Captain America

            Dylan you are what is wrong with America. Yes Texas has a tradition of gun ownership. You can’t find that on google either. Its a family tradition. Look shit stick, here is the facts, Chicago a murder capital because only criminals carry guns. Why? because they break laws all the time. Liberals have not only ran us into bankruptcy, created more racism, low educations, ghettos and poverty. You people walk around with your heads in your ass. We dont care what you have to say. We laugh at liberal morons. Now please I can think for myself, I don’t need some pansy ass goofball trying to tell me what is good for me. So stick that in your liberal pipe and smoke it ass clown.

          • LockJL

            Yes! I agree wholeheartedly….Dylan represents what is wrong with America. Such warped thinking from tards like this have made this once great nation just a shadow of its former glorious self. To even be concerned with gun control when terrorists have struck again and in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, is only telling about the idiocy of the left and their agenda. Loons…all of them and complicit in the crimes committed by radical Islam by being apologists for them and constantly changing the narrative to fit their immature agendas.

          • Dylan Linzer

            What is my left agenda exactly? Have I once said anything apologist about terrorist or crimes? Seems like you like to connect dots that do not exist. So thinking we shouldn’t allow people to carry guns in public events is what is destroying this great nation? I am sure our mass amount of debt and becoming a nation that no longer produces good with a huge disproportionate of wealth has all been caused by my left agenda to not have guns at public events. wtf are you talking about? Lay off of the Glenn Beck dick ride for a couple months.

          • LockJL

            Here’s some Beck for you….try learning something from someone smarter than yourself. http://www.glennbeck.com/2015/12/03/glenns-message-to-the-president-screw-global-warming-it-is-about-islam.

          • boll ocks

            Glenn Beck is the dirtiest nutsack that has ever been behind a radio microphone.

          • Captain America

            That guy is retarded, lmao, someone forgot to tell him the democrat’s plan of socialism and its dirty dealings with Muslim’s and terrorist have been exposed. He is still trying to convince people that they are imagining things. I guess this proves why people call liberals stupid. Dylan is really really stupid. He doesn’t even know he will be one of those people that are a sacrifice in the end.

          • Dylan Linzer

            So we were not getting rid of our deficit under Clinton and Bush never made us go in the hole have a major terrorist attack under his watch and start two wars. Yes this is all liberals fault. How the fuck are you going legitimately say liberals created ghetto’s? And explain what in the liberal “agenda” has created low educations and poverty. Just because Fox news says so does not make it so…. PS your god Reagan is who put us from a creditor nation to a debtor nation so if you want to complain about bankruptcy America maybe it is not all Liberals fault

          • Captain America

            You are in the whole because Odummy used the Keynesian theory and cut corporate tax, the freaking Japanese threw it out and prosper now, our major contributor of debt is do to the manipulation of the economy and crippling the job growth as planned. Lets just let all the refugees over hear and ignore the Vets, spend billions on that and then bring the war and chaos home. Sorry pal, war will happen, it will happen as it has over and over because that is how history repeats itself. All this gun control crap is a scam to control. You people really think a religion that is designed to take out the competition is going to co-exist if you are nice. You people are stupid stupid stupid and you my friend are the victims and you are to stupid to know it. Lmao, Democrats have created poverty, and ghettos by oppressing these people and encouraging them not to prosper with this false belief that allowing them to rely on government assistance will cause them to prosper but instead you have an epidemic of poor, uneducated, people who have no clue why they are grouped in housing and developments based on a democrats policy. Now instead of them learning to do for themselves they become how they have been handled, a group of caged animals. Some wise up and make it out. Now as far as gun control, lmao, I would rather be shot defending myself then be a bitch and be shot standing their because you morons think putting a fukin sign up is going to keep a criminal from shooting you or for that matter a terrorist. Goofball, and not to mention liberals have this retarded assumption on education, lets erase everything that is true and replace it with our Politically correctness and condemn Christianity while we promote Islam and the abuse, murder, and rape of infidels as we take a symbol of heritage down and tell you its about slavery. Fuk off liberal, when the shit hits the fan lets see how you feel about your dumass liberal views.

          • Dylan Linzer

            So the democrats plan was to cripple job growth? So what would be the motivation for this? or is it because democrats hate freedom? It seems you have very select memory do you not remember what our economy was like during the 8 years Bush Jr was in office? It took 7 terrorist to do the France attack. Are we really still in the mindset that they cant attack us if they are fighting us in Iraq. Did you also forget that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism and has helped create this power vacuum? Can you explain how democrats have oppressed the poor? I don’t think any democrat has pushed to make programs like welfare or WIC as a way for people to prosper but rather a safety net. You may have family to rely on when things get hard but not everybody does. PS I guess you can have all the pride and heritage of getting your asses kicked by a bunch of liberal pussies who thought slavery was wrong. Enjoy that heritage and deal with it never going away. Also here up north my economy is kicking ass and I have democratic politicians how is the south doing with your backward ass politicians? The south will never rise again!

          • Captain America

            Yes Dylan that is how the democrats are socializing the people. If you knew economics then you would understand its a socialized policy in effect. That is why you guys are not prosecuting the Benghazi butcher. Please refer to the rules of socialism, I believe Alinski’s 8 rules of socialism. Along with running up the debt the idea is also make the people rely on government aid. The idea is bankrupt the country, have the people dependent on socialized healthcare and welfare. Now refer to the CAIR documents on taking us over. Lmao, Dylan you are either a communist idiot trying to convince people that the right is insane, which isn’t working, NO ONE BELIEVES YOU DEMOCRATS, YOUR COVER IS BLOWN, CALL US CRAZY BUT YOUR PLANS WERE MADE PUBLIC, so either you are removed or you have a war. Either way you are knowingly a traitor or you are really fuking stupid. You can comment yourself to death on here but anybody with an education is laughing at you. Are you actually using your real name? lmao not really bright buddy. Oh yes, but your liberal ways you will justify your acts of treason.

          • dylinkfu

            Wow that was an essay of nonsense you typed up there so let me try to crack an egg of knowledge on you. 1. Socialism is a form of economy which has certain public services run by the government like police/roads/schools you know like we have in our socialist country. How you jump from that to socialism needs a country to go bankrupt is just full blown retardation. 2. If this was some how needed and the plan I guess Reagan was the largest socialist since he was the president who put us in debt and we have never gotten out of debt since him. The closest president to try to get us out of debt was Clinton and than Bush took the money we were using to pay off our debt to give us more tax cuts. So I guess Bush was a huge socialist also. 3. I don’t think you know what CAIR is. It was an organization that was suppose to fight xenophobia of Islam but was found to may have links with hammas so we stopped funding it. Guess when stopped funding it. 2009. Do you just watch any retard on and believe him? I guess you also wonder why no one has arrested Obama for being a lizard person. Do some research before you spew ignorant nonsense or don’t I don’t care. This is why the Republican party is a joke with your retarded mascot Donald Trump running around with a tax plan that is going to put us further in debt and yet you guys act like you understand fiscal responsibility. The only candidate you have with a solid tax plan is Kasich and he’s at the bottom of you polls because you are abunch of retards that like strong words.

          • Captain America

            How about socialism is a form of government to a fascist who try and justify it to people who support the constitution written to keep that form of so called government from federal reach. You can’t have it unless you get rid of the constitution. Now lets analyze your stupidity. Communism is socialism that has taken control of the political platform as we have now. There is little difference really in my book, now when the leaders abuse their power with greed then you get fascism. So now when you analyze your pure leftist anti constitutional bullshit, not only have you proven you are committing treason, you are so full of socialist shit it aint funny. I got a cure for you socialism, come over to my house and I will explain it to you. lmao goofball, now you are retarded. A looney left, to hell with all Christians, fuk the constitution and everybody that loves the free world is an idiot. Hmmm Now that logic don’t work on me. Sorry I am American, go to N.Korea with your people. Kasich, is a moron by the way, and his commercial on Trump made him look like the real hitler. LOL Kisach needs to quit wasting money and drop out where he needs to be. He got used in his own state.

          • Dylan Linzer

            now lets analyze this stupid shit again. “Communism is socialism that has taken control of the political platform as we have now.” Socialism is where the country controls some private companies for the needs of the people(schools/roads/military/police/fire department) You may notice all the things I listed we have had socialized long before Obama. Can you show me one example of something Obama has socialized and don’t say Obama care because all insurance companies are still privately owned so that would not count as socialism.(unless you think car insurance is also socialism). Communism is a system where the state owns everything. Where have I said anything that would get rid of the Constitution. I still am very patriotic and believe in the constitution I just don’t believe being an ignorant fuck is a requirement to be patriotic. I think you and people like you do much more damage to our democracy and constitution because you refuse to do any research and help put out false information. A democracy does not work without a well educated populace. You have ALL of the worlds knowledge at your finger tips yet continue to decide to ghettoize your education. I imagine you almost only go to right wing sites for news and information because it always agrees with you and makes you feel right. Do you ever question the facts that are given and do some research of your own? It literally only takes 10 minutes and you don’t even have to move an inch, you just have to switch to google and google the facts that are spoon fed to you. If Trump did get elected would you just follow everything he says without question. You talk of believing in the constitution but freedom of speech and religion are both part of that and you are willing to sacrifice both for security. I have not said anything about getting rid of guns I actually like shooting guns and I believe is a main reason why we should not need such a large military for our home defense when we have such a large population with guns. But Trump kicks out any press that disagrees with him and wishes to ban all Muslims which is a religious group from coming into this country and if you find nothing wrong with this than maybe you should ask yourself if you give a shit about the constitution.

          • Captain America

            Yes communism is socialism, please refer to the definition of socialism, and see that communism is the same as socialism only under communism it has went a step farther by controlling the political platform. In which it needs to keep the socialist rule. Its real easy Dylan please google it. Derp, you have a problem don’t you? I mean take your meds, everybody knows what the difference is. Now lets factor in greed and then you have fascism and that is what we almost have now. Hey bud get ready for Trump, I bet you little traitors will be all upset. Do you want to join my fan club? Lol, get a life liberal terd, you wil not take over the country with anti constitutional ideology.

          • Dylan Linzer

            This guy telling me to google something yet he cant ever source a single thing he says! lol

          • Captain America

            I sure did but it requires you to read. See my source is cited by acclaimed research analyst and not some opinionated garbage from a leftist professional hack wanna be. If you look at the figures for Reagen years then you would see you are about as stupid as a football bat. Read a real source you freaking mentally ill goofball liberal. they shouldn’t call you liberals they should call you politically psychotic morons. I love watching in the news when a liberal thinks they own the rights to the world and get the shit kicked out of themselves for thinking they can do and say what they want but infringe on someone else rights. So funny, I might post a few liberal knockouts. I usually laugh when I see it. Imposing strong backwards views on normal people gets a negative reaction that usually leaves the liberal silent for a few years.

          • Dylan Linzer

            I just ask you to use google and if its in a text surly some credible source would exist but it actually does not exist in your first term book or online because it is in fact true that Reagan put us in debt. How about you learn how to do independent research instead of googling a first term economics book as a source…But good on you for I guess showing me you may have the capacity to google just nothing of relevance sadly 🙁

          • Captain America

            google is not a source its absurd. Not only is google not a source it is just plain retarded for anyone to suggest that if they want hard facts. No go online take that citation and look at the dam book. Not hard to do or do you know how to read in between your taking over the world meetings.

          • Dylan Linzer

            dude google is all the information in the world. Are you fucking kidding me. Any information that is in that book is online. If you are correct at least one person would have posted something about it. They didn’t because you are wrong and know you are wrong. Either the entire world is conspiring against you or you are a fucking retard. Either way you lose

          • Dylan Linzer

            yes google as a source would be absurd I asked you to google to find sources. how do you not understand how this works when you are literally on the internet right now?

          • Dylan Linzer

            Trump is gonna destroy the republican party already your party is split in half from trump. 50% love trump but the other 50% hate him that register as republican. So enjoy the ride while liberals take over after Trump loses since he is way more disliked than liked. I will make the prediction that after this election the republican party will splinter into 2 parties.

          • Captain America

            I hope he does the establishment are taking bribes from the left. It don’t matter the Muslims own the left who pay the right. Things are changing have you not noticed. Terrible how our country has been raped of its founding principles so the left could squeeze its totalitarian system in. Lmao, I am glad I am not white, it seems whites are the only race that can be discriminated against on a daily basis by people that claim they are equality. They ban a flag saying it represents racism but yet support a cult following of a religion that openly practices rape, murder, and genocide and enslaves the women and are the biggest slave traders in the world. Now that is logical.

          • Dylan Linzer

            You really think Muslims have control of this nation? Please source

          • Captain America

            of course they do, try looking in to Odummasses administration. Mostly muslims nad brotherhood members. If you don’t see it then you should be a victim.

          • Dylan Linzer

            lol ok source this that shows all the Muslims he has in his administration vs the presidents before him because I think you are full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about. I also love seeing what you do to not source anything because you don’t know how to google lol. Its 2016 you should try it out!

          • Captain America

            All former members of CAIR and the Brotherhood, supporters of terrorist. Hmmm, maybe that is why the left has created ISIS.

          • Dylan Linzer

            why do you bring up CAIR again when I already told you that was started by Bush Jr? You really suck at this

          • Captain America

            Trump is the republican party, the gop destroyed themselves by taking money from the democrats to get all those disastrous bills passed that will come back and haunt us. Lmao spoken like a communist. I guess you haven’t seen Clinton falling , she is getting ready to have a spot in her own prison. Down with the liberal retards. Lmao you guys are the best victims, brainless but have the capability to repeat what yoru brainwashed to believe. SO funny. I wish we could out law them and go on liberal hunts. It would be fun.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ok difference is if Clinton wins or loses the democratic base wont split in half where no matter if trump wins or loses the republican base will split into two because like you even say in your own rebuttal the GOP destroyed themselves. So I guess have fun with your hunting of liberals while your party never wins any elections because you now have a fractured party. Sad day to be a conservative but on the plus side we might not have to deal with trickle down economics!

          • Captain America

            Half your base left for Trump. Lol I can’t wait, you traitors will have to work again. Get a job dylan we are not your slaves. Get an education. Their is more to life then the retarded stuff you are trying to convince everybody is so good. You are a classic douche bag. I bet you will be another one of those mass shooters. Most mass shootings happened under this admin by democrats.

          • Dylan Linzer

            every poll shows both Hiliary and Sanders beating Trump so… But I forgot you are too stupid to deal with things like facts and such and prefer to live in a fantasy world. What’s it like not being able to even watch fox news to digest bullshit that agrees with you?

          • Dylan Linzer

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

            I don’t mean to burst your bubble but as Trump always likes to point out polls. The average of all polls show Clinton and Sanders both beating Trump in a general election. If you scroll down you can view the results of each individual polls. Which it does include Fox news polls. so…..

          • Captain America

            one source is all I need Dylan, I don’t need to go and find a bunch of liberal lies to back my case. I present DNA and you bring a community tampon. Get a life. Welcome to the Trump nation. I suggest you commies run if Trump gets in. I hear your friends are going to Canada but I don’t think they want you commie pigs.

          • Dylan Linzer

            so fox news is liberal lies? lol ok good luck with your quest to stay ignorant. I wish you the best of luck in it. Maybe some day you will learn how to do research and come up with an opinion that was not fed to you like a baby bird and actually have an opinion that is not just rhetoric but till then have a good life.

          • Captain America

            Hey Dylan were you one of the illegal protesters burning the flag and holding up the mexican flag and chanting about taking America over? lmao I don’t need luck Dylan I am a Patriot, Hey I saw where venezuala has failed its socialist economy, nothing but death and poverty there now, I hope you figure out no matter how you paint socialism it always 100% fails. No sources needed for that its a historical fact that can’t be disputed. Oh and Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac were started by Jimmy Carter before Reagan or Bush in which is why we have part of the 9 trillion in debt that has occurred in the last 7 years under your democrat rule. Not to mention that part of the previous 10 trillion that was there before Odummy was created by Carter. Democrat politics have failed and socialism is the democrat party. We see how EU is now, overran by brownshirt Muslims.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Thank god there is no capitalistic countries that have failed or your whole argument would sound retarded….. Also yes Carter added debt but again the president who pushed us from being a creditor nation (more countries owe us money than we owe other countries.) To a debtor nation was Reagan so please try again.

          • Dylan Linzer

            I would say thank you for supporting Trump but their was actually some politicians running on the republican side I did like but the Republican party has turned into a party of bible thumping retards that like big words and empty promises so you guys went with Trump instead and now will lose the election and probably house and senate

          • Dylan Linzer

            and anti constitutional ideology? Coming from the guy who supports a person running with the plan to ban all Muslims. Heard of freedom of religion? Or do you like to cherry pick what you like about the constitution just like people like the cherry pick from their religions

          • Captain America

            It is a temporary ban and constitutional would be the immigration law of 1952 which has already stated this and your own Democrat Jimmy Carter banned the Iranians and Sunni in 1971 for 444 days. 1907 and 1890, it seems the day of the democrats our laws are forgotten for socialist views and globalist agendas.

          • Dylan Linzer

            you know the difference between banning a country and a religion right?

          • Captain America

            I believe a democrat Jimmy Carter banned Iranians and the sunnis, I know that a temporary ban on the Muslims invaders who are here to try and overtake our government is a wise decision. Only a retard would stick their head in a bee hive and expect not to get stung. Hell yeah ban them permanent, that is not a religion. Budda, hindu, Jewish, they are religions Islam is a cult of genocide. A so called religion that practices slavery, sex slavery, rape, murder and other crimes against humanity. They are the only cult practicing slavery right now and its good to take a confederate flag down but not good to ban slavers and rapist here. Liberal logic fail.

          • Dylan Linzer

            it is a cult with 1.6 billion followers more than Budda, hindu, Jewish religions and is 22.32% of the worlds population. So pretty sure its a religion since its the second largest religion in the entire world. Also I think trying to say that some extremist that abuse a religion means we should basically ban all of them would be like sticking your dick a bee hive. I would prefer to fight a small sect of people instead of grouping 1.6 billion people as this group. Do you even think about economic trade and tourism when you spout this stupid ass shit or do you really think 1.6 billion people are in ISIS right now? But I guess you like to pick and choose what you like about the constitution and you should get to pick and choose what counts as a religion. I mean why not I am sure you pick and choose what you like from your religion. Or was the bible re-written after the Spanish inquisition? You can keep your confederate flag just know its always going to be known for slavery and racism just like the Nazi flag will always be known for genocide. If you are pro slavery and racism I guess that is your call. And check this out im gonna go ahead and use this cool google thing to source you again the size Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations

          • Captain America

            How many Christians are they killing now Dylan? Islam represents rape, slavery, murder, and genocide. Stfu you goofball. You have no point. You proved those religions are not murderers. Read the dam Koran, the book of non coexistence. Lmao, get a job.

          • Dylan Linzer

            So has the bible been re-written since the inquisition? Since you know all that was cool in the bible back then. You just cherry pick what you like from your stupid ass religion. Christianity is just as much as joke as any of the others. Dude lives in a fish…ok. But its cool cuz we got to ride around with dinosaurs and woman understood they are property! Bible Koran and Judaism is all based on the same book. All the fucked up shit is the same. Google it! Oh that’s right you think the entire world is lying to you and just trying to get you pist smh

          • Captain America

            Dylan your socialist party is declining, your party is failing and your views and propaganda are not being excepted anymore. Soon the traitors will be revealed as they are just starting to be exposed now. I love it, I love when bad people are brought to justice and those they support them are shown how stupid they really are. Lets analyze this, you are socialist who supports the deliberate decay of our economic, legislative and executive system with socialist views and manipulations and you are ok with that. Lmao, the communist and socialist party are the most uneducated morons on this planet. As I have said before – socialism, fascism, communism always fail, proven throughout history, a fact, now look at Japan who dropped the socialist Keynesian theory, they are prospering now, look at India who has opened up to the free market and are now excelling. You can say all you want about how to control a people but in the end you are a socialist with a failed policy and you can turn that finger you are pointing at everybody else for your failures because you have 10 pointing back at you. Typical commie its everybody’s fault but your own. I never understood how socialist really thought destroying the people and manipulating the dumb like yourself to profit as a leader is a good example. Please google common sense its free still and the socialist haven’t tried to use it to make money yet because they don’t know what it is.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ok give me that source for who made us in debt I have shown I can google I still have yet to see you do the same

          • Captain America

            lol You are an idiot. Do you work or are you on welfare trying to be educate me on why people like you are a burden to tax payers? Lol. get a life. Look at your own guy the one before Carter, like CLinton was the cause of the 9/11 he was to busy extorting some young intern to pay attention to a threat that happened on his watch.

          • Dylan Linzer

            umm 9/11 happened while Bush was in office or do you mean the time the twin towers was attacked and nothing happened? Or should Clinton have spent his time making a time machine? You have shown me again and again how someone can be so retarded that they don’t even know they are retarded. Why is it so hard for you to find me one credible source that shows Reagan did not make us from a creditor nation to a debtor nation. If I am wrong it should be more than easy to find a source since you know the entire world gets on this and I am sure someone would report the facts from a credible source

          • Captain America

            ummm The plan was ignored by Clinton. Thank you

          • Dylan Linzer

            So did Bush not get that memo? Sicne you know it was carried out while he was in office. Fucking stupid. All this tells me is Bush knew and did nothing

          • Dylan Linzer

            except every country including the US is a socialist country and there is not a single capitalist county in existence. But keep patting yourself on the back while you hold on to the virtues of capitalism that have been proven so wrong that not a single country follows it. I guess you count

            Denmark
            Finland
            Netherlands
            Canada
            Sweden
            Norway
            New Zealand
            Belgium
            as failed states. Please educate yourself before you speak again. You just go on crazy rambles. Although humorous it still is a little disturbing. I am still trying to figure out if you are really this ignorant or just a troll. Since you are from the south I will go with the first one. Give me on capitalistic country that is doing well. You know why you cant? Because every nation grew the fuck up and realized it does not work.

          • Captain America

            Lol, Thank you for proving my point. See this is suppose to be a Constitutional republic, that is that thing that you democrats have trampled all over to turn us into a socialist country because you are traitors to the constitution. Therefore your parties leaders should be held accountable for the perversions, unlawful infringement and traitorous acts of selling weapons to our enemies and bowing down to the Muslim brotherhood in an attempt to take control of our country. Check guns sales dylan, and read the 2nd amendment. Learn something besides common core. Oh by the way, Trump is looking good and its looking bad for the traitors.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Tell me where in the constitution says we shall not have a social economics system? Maybe you should read some shit yourself if you want to have an opinion. Its really sad that you can be controlled so easy and will fight to the death for things you know nothing about. I have not said one thing yet to take away your guns and have already said I like guns so you can go fuck yourself with that bullshit and while your at it yeah look at gun sales under Obama and yet somehow he’s taking all your guns away your logic is flawed and ignorant fucking educate yourself! get out of the fucking cage you made yourself!

          • Captain America

            When your social economics puts the lives and prosperity of our country at risk then its against the constitution. Federal over reach of our state and local government and unconstitutional laws are a crime. Anyone who acts against the constitution is a traitor. That is what has happened that is what has brought our country to its knees deliberately. Shut up Dylen you are a jackass commie. You are a traitor and a communist. You are against the constitution now take your freak stupid mentally ill ass on with it.

          • Dylan Linzer

            so what part would count for that. Please give example since you cant give sources

          • Captain America

            How about analyze Dylan, Dylan is a guy who spends countless hours trolling blogs and forums to sell his half wit retarded liberalism. He must not work because he has been trolling the same person for I dont know 2 months, is it possible Dylan has a mental disorder. yes very likely Dylan is a wack job. Why because nobody, nobody, sane will pursue someone for 2 months and be ignored for 1 month and then be provided a source but then say the source that is provided by a learning institute such as a 4 year college is suffice to their google bullshit. Instead I have several more months of this wack job named Dylan to ask me why I think he is such a dumbass. I enjoy telling him he is a freaking lunatic so I will be very rude and disrespectful because the moron keeps coming back. Dylan is the reason our Democrat system failed, they want to say that all those democrat mass shooters did it because of guns but no its not because of guns its because our health professionals do not help the mentally ill like dylan. Dylan supports gun control now like his communist trained him but one day Dylan will snap and kill a whole roomful of people and the democrats will blame it on a gun instead of realizing someone said Yo,, Dylan is a whack job that is probably not safe for the community.

          • Dylan Linzer

            lol you have been on this thing just as much as me so….. But if you could source something that could help!

          • Captain America

            I am tired of checking my messages every dam week and seeing your stupid uninformed communist propaganda. Lmao Boy it sucks for you if Trump gets in, your ass will have to work again.

          • Dylan Linzer

            If you knew how to fact check or anything about economics you would know what you are saying is pure garbage. 1. The above-quoted list of steps for “How to create a social state” is
            another example of a political attempt to tie the names of Saul Alinsky
            with those of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. But the list is not
            something taken from the actual writings of Saul Alinsky, nor does it
            even sound like something he would have written (e.g., the line about
            “controlling health care” is anachronistic for his era, and the idea of
            “increasing the poverty level as high as possible” is the very
            antithesis of what Alinsky worked to achieve). This list is simply a
            modern variant of the decades-old, apocryphal Communist Rules for Revolution
            piece that was originally passed along without attribution until
            Alinsky’s name became attached to it (presumably because someone out
            there thought it sounded like something Alinsky might have written). 2. socialism is a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and
            controlled by the government rather than by individual people and
            companies (like schools/roads/police/military) This means we have lived in a socialist society for a long time dick cheese. So get your head out of the 1950’s we are not in a cold war with communism anymore. 3. Reagan was the president when we went into debt since ww1 so I guess Reagan is a huge pinko. Bush took the money we were using to pay off our debt during Clinton’s term for tax cuts so you must just hate the socialist Bush for stopping the capitalist Clinton from being to accomplish his task to defeat “socialism”. 4. I don’t think you know what CAIR was or that it was De-funded in 2009 basically right after Obama took office. But I guess Bush wanted to support Hammas with your logic. So if you want to call someone stupid please again and I feel like I am hitting a brick wall with you on this DO SOME GA-DAMN RESEARCH BEFORE YOU SPEW A BUNCH OF IGNORANT BULLSHIT or you will keep making your entire party appear ignorant.

          • Captain America

            I study Macro Economics Dylan, and the whole system we have now has been socialized to cap growth. Sorry bud, your commander was a communist influenced leader. Please remove your head from your ass and figure it out for yourself. You are wasting your breath trying to convince me otherwise, the progressive movement has been the most destructive in our time and that is why our country is falling apart because socialism has a track record for failure. Just ask the Russians.

          • Dylan Linzer

            we could also ask any Scandinavian country (I know big word google it) Germany/Canada and many other countries. Seems like someone that studies economics (which I doubt). They would teach you some things about how other economics systems work. (or was this some Ayn Rand certification class). Here’s a task so you can prove me wrong. Show me one source to validate your side. I have yet to see you give me one source that shows Reagan did not make us into a debtor nation. But I will even give that one a benefit of a doubt and maybe their was economic issues at the time out of his hands so I will also let you show me a source of any Republican president after Reagan who has brought down our debt. If you can do this with a valid source I will shut up. Maybe you should do research on subject you care about or wish to have an opinion on. It really just gets frustrating to argue with a person that has no clue how economics work. I would also love to hear your synopsis on what Macro Economics is. Because I doubt you even know what it is and I now question your ability to research what it is. I could be wrong maybe somebody made a Meme about it for you. And to end it I will again source some things to show that Reagan was the one who put is in debt.
            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26402-2004Jun8.html
            http://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/17/business/us-turns-into-debtor-nation.html?_r=0
            http://www.commondreams.org/views/2011/07/10/reagan-mythology-leading-us-cliff
            http://articles.latimes.com/1986-06-24/news/mn-21190_1_foreign-investments
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics
            You can have views on trickle down economics and consumer end economics all you want but don’t try to say socialism was the cause of our debt or the goal of a socialist country. Why would anybody invent an economic system that requires mass amount of debt and why are their many socialist countries that are not in a mass amount of debt and are still creditor nation if the retarded things you say were true. we were a socialist country for a long time as a creditor nation. Till Reagan and the retarded idea of trickle down economics. Because people will hire more folks even if demand for said items has not gone up because businesses like to hire people for no reason?

          • Captain America

            ask an real American once Dylan, you socialist movement has took a crap lmao.

          • Dylan Linzer

            so should I put down “a real American” as your source? OK I asked and they said you are a complete retard. I thought it was rude but you know how those real Americans can be!

          • Captain America

            you can ask all you want, I don’t argue with liberals, you would argue a cited source from the best economist of our century. Dylan you are a putz, a liberal troll, you cry gun control but want to shoot trump supporters, liberals are the biggest fraud, they use racial cards and PC to try to enforce the control of the peoples will. I will not even spend a second to provide a liberal with crap, you in my book are not American, so hence I will only give you an insult, I deem my time worthy of an American. Go be that socialist, I think its a dying breed now. Maybe you can conjure up some kind support group like Black lies Matter and you can rant on whitey some more.

          • Dylan Linzer

            So you cant find a source can you?

          • Captain America

            I am sorry I just provided you with a nice cited research book, and I suggest you get google ready because their is some really big words in it that glide along with free markets and freedom, hard for a liberal troll to actually have to read since you asked for a real cited source I provided you with one in which you can’t google, google is not a place for citations. Now go spend some time leaning why you are a commie traitor.

          • Captain America

            Plan? lmao

          • Dylan Linzer

            We went into the hole when Reagan put us there. That is what changing from a creditor nation to a debtor nation is. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26402-2004Jun8.html

          • Captain America

            Dylan life is hard but its harder if you are stupid. Not even close. Carter the other worst President besides the one we have now put us in the hole and Reagen one of the best let us prosper.. Unfortunately, our Stalin tried to socialize the market to bankrupt us, just so he could march the terrorist upon us. Look at the sale of guns Dylan, might be a reason. Maybe the patriots aren’t as stupid as you traitors. I would love to know when its your time if you are going to be armed or if you will realize how stupid you are. Lmao, liberals are the best victims. Kind of like moronic to me. They cry the loudest for the socialist cause but they will cry the loudest when they are not included.

          • Dylan Linzer

            It must be hard for you. I already gave you a link to show you how Reagan made us a debtor nation yet you still try to live in a fantasy world where that did not happen. Tell you what if you google who made the US a debtor nation and can come back with a link that doesn’t say Reagan from a legitimate source I will shut up but its not gonna happen because here on planet earth that is what happened. I think your mom should suspend your internet privileges till you can learn to google. At the very least don’t call people stupid while saying incorrect facts in the same sentence because it does make you appear retarded

          • Captain America

            Not hard, I don’t get in intellectual conversations with people who try and tell me about our debt, that is worse then the two poorest preforming presidents combined, has anything to with Reagan, Please you leader is a socialist teetering on fascism. Be gone goon. Try and tell the majority of America that trash and they will agree that its people like you who have destroyed this country by ignoring your communist leader has intentionally destroyed our economy. Nobody is that stupid except for people like you who try and blame it on Reagan, which was the best President in the last hundred years. The old blame the republican president. Every time in my life it was good was when we had a republican. And look at Carter, banned Iranians, and you people try and make justification for a cult of people that hate you and Christians. Oh, I forgot you are not Christian, sucks to be Christian right now when your Hitler is persecuting them getting ready for his genocide. Typical for a fascist leader. Reagan is not good for you because you support socialism which has an idiotic success rate along the lines of negative percentages like our GDP that proves it. Don’t need some leftist article when you understand economics and how they work.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Well since you know about economics im sure you have studied on how interest works with debt and how as you stack more debt the more you will owe on interest and as you know the debt has continued to grow since bush and going to 2 wars. But do keep in mind again that Reagan put us in debt and we have yet been able to get out of debt and that was with both parties involved. But would like to point out only Clinton did pay off debt now there is arguments to have but to argue about incurring debt being chased by any president other than Reagan is retarded and please source me something that proves me wrong

          • Captain America

            yes I studied how a low work force effects the GDP, I also studied how when you have a billion illegals working and not paying taxes and using up our resources then it effects us and we can’t pay the interest on the growing debt caused by the idiots who can’t manage our budget. Love the ominus bill, I wonder what muslim nation benefited off of that. I also understand the corporate tax and how the dumass crats have caused endless unstable part-time jobs with their corporate regulations. I understand you are a liberal terd and your socialist party is collapsing and you will be under a conservative rule soon and we can hang the ones committing treason. Lmao, I understand socialism fails, its proven, its recorded throughout history. Get a job Dylan and pay taxes, quit thinking Americans want to support your anti American propaganda that violates the context of the constitution. Be a man and quit crying like a little girl, Oh that’s right you are probably a homosexual atheist lmao.

          • Dylan Linzer

            So I guess again you wont source because you cant source and instead have decided to just throw shit like an upset monkey. I am not crying just wish people would educate themselves or at least try to do research but I think you have proven yet again your inability to do so and have proven again why the world thinks the south is full of retards that are unable to read or make cognitive decisions. Since you have issues again im gonna try to show you something with pictures. (like the books you study economics use) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/76aa049dfa6f2f2f764f58ffe226266d47b302c21079ebbe49a4a2a3b826c1a6.png
            Does this help? I should probably add some retarded comment to it to help you further but I can see hope is lost and now do this more for my own amusement. I am sure your sister or wife (never sure which to call it since they are the same person I assume) is probably fully agreeing with you while you work on your macro economics degree at the esteemed school of Fischer Price. But again you should maybe spend some of your hard earned money(which I assume you dont actually have much of but dick ride the rich in hopes that you will some day get spreyed with some of their excess money some day.)(kind of like trickle down economics) on an actual education. I do have a source for something free you can try to use! http://lmgtfy.com/

          • Captain America

            Here I got a source to shut you up but you will have to read it from front to back like I did. Dip shit. McConnel, Brue , Flynn, Macroeconomics Principles, Problems, and Policies 19 Edition McGraw-Hill Irwan. Now shut your commie mouth. It has a slew of cited resources that may not help an idiot like you who thinks the news media is a cited source lmao. Hey when you are finished getting your feelings hurt in this please read Free to Choose by Milton Friedman.

          • Dylan Linzer

            or just give me a source instead of a book

          • Captain America

            I have provided you with material that is cited and researched by some of the best economic experts in the business, not google dribble by a leftist that is manipulating reality with opinionated garbage. Hey read it, it will do you more justice then using google as a citation which is not allowed in the research field. Now if you can’t read that isn’t my problem, I think may have some pictures in their to help you.

          • Dylan Linzer

            k cool now give me a source that shows Reagan did not put us in debt because it is not in that book. Which was what I have been asking for ages ago

          • Captain America

            Lol Its common knowledge that the previous debt was 10 Trillion and Odummasses debt was 9 trillion and counting, I guess giving all the foreigners billions of unnecessary dollars is adding up on top of all his other failures. Yes 9 trillion that reagan had nothing to do with, George Bush and jimmy Carter together couldn’t rack that up, and if you really check you will find Jimmy Carter was the one who damaged our economy and Reagen fixed it but I am sure your communist adventures left that our of your history. That is usually what happens when communist are allowed to write history.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ok if its common knowledge why don’t you go ahead and send me a source!

          • Captain America

            I did but you can’t handle the truth. Do you want me to draw a picture of how to open a book and read it in crayon. Gave you a source of experts in the field and not your leftist retards who try to hide the real numbers because they know they are deliberately bringing the country down. Anybody that understands economics knows this but some brainwashed mental case. You have no argument Dylan you are a mentally ill retard that lacks the ability to understand what is real and what is fantasy. Did your unicorn pick you up. Let me guess Bernie sanders told you that.

          • Dylan Linzer

            You cant even give me a page number for your source….You sir should learn to read and do research it’s really just sad….:(

          • Dylan Linzer

            No I just expect you to give me a source. Just give me a page number and I can do the rest. But if I was lying it should be easy to find at least one source online that proves this. But I will actually try if you can just give me some information so I do not have to buy an entire book.

          • Dylan Linzer

            you know history is written by the victor are you saying the communist won?

          • Captain America

            Provided you with a source. One that you have to read but you are to stupid to read. Hey you guys make people work so they can pay for your welfare and all the illegals and refugees, how about getting someone to read that book for you. You might learn what a delusional moron you are but hell you can’t fix stupid. Lmao I have never seen someone so brainwashed with communism. Hey stupid you guys ruined the country because you did’t listen to all the former communist countries that went bankrupt tell everybody that socialism has never succeeded but failed 100% of the time.

          • Dylan Linzer

            nope you provided dick and it seems the entire world agrees with me since you know I can google my side which you cant. So either communist have won and the whole word has decided to distort the facts or you are full blown retarded

          • Dylan Linzer

            I give you ten you give me one and am unable to even source the page where this information is. Please just give me the page number so you can prove me wrong.

          • Dylan Linzer

            do you even know what an omnibus bill is? Because it has nothing to do with Muslims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_bill
            again I have something for you since I think college is a little much for you at this moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4kCK9faxww

          • Captain America

            lol um, it has to do with crippling us even more by racking up another trillion on our debt bud, I am sure you democrat mind is still stuck on the Muslim’s in which your party has drew its loyalty too, I would say the omnibus bill is another way to cripple us into socialism, um looks at the coal industry, oil industry, and our whole economy. Yep looks like a deliberate attack. HMmmm derp. Dude get a hobby.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Sad day for you again here I am gonna source it to you and guess what it wont need an entire book! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_bill Or is wiki biased? Now how about that source for Reagan not putting us in debt?

          • Captain America

            Pleas save your source and use the source that I have provided with the real research analyst, you know the experts. I mean if I want to find some garbage that a leftist that is not qualified I would hit google. I give a book of study. I have provided you with the information, but apparently you want me to seek credibility from a hack retard and not a professional expert. Lmao Dylan get a freaking job and quit being a POS troll. If you were working you wouldn’t be obsessed with an argument you just lost. Its in the dam book sincy you are sitting on your ass trolling people why don’t you open the dam book and see for yourself. Please goto the Reagen years its a comparison of all the years and has exactly what you need to find. Thank you.

          • Dylan Linzer

            again you are on this just as much as me so maybe you should get a job…. Plus I checked out your book and it says nothing about Reagan not being the one that put us in debt so…Could you give me a source?

          • Captain America

            READ Dylan if you are going to have hard working Americans pay your welfare while you sit at home an plot how you will destroy the liberty of America then at least read. Loser.

          • Dylan Linzer

            says the guy who cant google

          • Dylan Linzer

            I do read. I also do independent research. I google information and find credible sources. I gave you a source by wallstreet journal that was an article made at the time. I gave you a source from Wikipedia also which is actually more credible than any textbook because everybody is required to source the information they post before it can be posted. Also if anything is false then anybody has the right to take it down and they ban the person for posting false information if they can source better material. So as you may not understand that means either majority of people in the entire world is conspiring against you or you are just wrong. I have actually given you over 10 sources but that does not seem to be enough. The greatest threat to democracy is an uneducated populace. Which is why I am fine if you can prove me wrong but you have to give me something to do so. I have even bent over backwards and have just asked for the page number from the one source you have. You refuse to give me this yet claim I am after your liberty with nothing to back-up these claims. Please can you at least pretend to care about Americas future and at least leave with an open mind to do your own research. You are being spoon fed bullshit. This is why the two party system is able to get nothing done. Like I said you can debate with me over facts but the fact is Reagan did put us into the debt that we have never been able to climb out of. I would gladly go republican again if they would go back to the fiscal outlook they had in the 1950’s. The fact is Reagan and the top 1% have hijacked the republican party and keep trying to sell you trickle down economics. This is not a belief the republicans always had. This was a belief made in the 1980’s and we have been cursed ever since.

          • Captain America

            I learned we are getting more interest on our debt because the democrats give out handouts to every thing under the sun except for the people that belong to the work force. I understand that every economical related decision has went against anything that would help. I also understand I have provided you a source where you can read for yourself like I did, sorry google doesn’t provide that. I like Trump’s economic plan, you know eliminate deferral and give discounts on corporate inversion to bring jobs back, how about lowering the corporate tax, now factor that with eliminating illegals sucking up our resources and refugee programs, then you have a growing corporate market, growing job market, and more tax payers so you can lower the hell out of taxes. Unlike the democrat policies which is bankrupting us. Lmao go away Dylan you are mentally ill. Democrats and liberals are the worst thing plaguing America, you cry for all this justice but yet you cripple the country into a state of chaos and crime. Why? because you don’t know how to manage a budget.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Still waiting for that source…..

          • Captain America

            still waiting, I am still waiting for you to shut up but lmao, I can’t get that lucky , hey google the freaking Keynesian theory, it will tell you all about your hero and why our debt is bad and why Japan were smart enough to drop it. Lmao, you are commie POS, dylwad .

          • Dylan Linzer

            So I am gonna go ahead and put that as no sources since you cant find any sources. Hey check this out I will even source you on what you can do to make me shut up! https://disqus.com/home/discussion/toprightnews/breaking_isis_just_responded_to_the_san_bernadino_shooting_with_this_chilling_message/#comment-2428954907 Guess what it links to? This page dick cheese because I already told you if you want me to shut up just give me one source. I told you how to make me shut-up so I do not know why you are waiting. What can I do for you to help you in this endeavor of being able to google something and than copy and paste the web address to this wall? Should I rattle plastic keys in front of the monitor? https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwj2npLtwIDKAhXJRiYKHWhkCqgQjRwIBw&url=%2Furl%3Fsa%3Di%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dimages%26cd%3D%26cad%3Drja%26uact%3D8%26ved%3D0ahUKEwj2npLtwIDKAhXJRiYKHWhkCqgQjRwIBw%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.youtube.com%252Fwatch%253Fv%253DJ4kCK9faxww%26psig%3DAFQjCNHUHbgO-SclqyDhIRQCFrTFcanaLA%26ust%3D1451459145055371&psig=AFQjCNHUHbgO-SclqyDhIRQCFrTFcanaLA&ust=1451459145055371 Maybe this could help!

          • Captain America

            lol, get some common sense instead of your spoonfed liberal crap and maybe I would supply a source, but its kind of like, you can go be that traitor dude that upholds a communist platform because they told you it was good for everybody and we have enough tax payers left to rob. Go see a shrink dick cheese, you are unstable. Liberalism is a disease. That is why you think posting fake sources and liberal tainted lies is going to make me believe you. Lmao, hey bud wait till Trump gets in office and we will show you real truth. As a matter of a fact if your source is not cited then don’t submit it. I read real research papers not some media garbage. I guess you think the liberals don’t own them. Lol, I like the one where they say odumass has helped the economy bahahahhaha, Ask Japan about the Keynesian theory bud, they grew after they dumped it, the only thing you dems are doing is controlling the people into your pit of hell.

          • Dylan Linzer

            So no actual source to show that Reagan was the one that did not put us in debt correct?

          • Captain America

            Provided it, but I guess you are one of the welfare people that doesn’t have to goto school to keep your benefits so I guess reading a real source of citation is not in your agenda as being the intelligent thing to do So going to google where you can find a liberal opinion that is so bizarre its stupid. Please you didn’t read the book not even close to it. Get the book read it and look near the back. Their is great section on how great Reagan’s figures are. Derp.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ok source me the page because I saw nothing that showed Reagan did not put us in debt….Derp

          • Captain America

            lol you didn’t read the book. Very easy it shows the totals of all admins back before the 60s. Good luck Dylan. Communist leftist are so uneducated it isn’t funny.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ok source me the page than because I did not see it and I think you are full of shit. Surly somone would have reported who made us a debtor nation. I already gave you tons of sources you are just too retarded to read any of them and too retarded to know how to google. Fucking grow up you are what is wrong with a democracy. You worry about debt while Trumps plan will put us further in debt. Fact you dont give a shit you just want to win and dont care if you are ignorant as fuck. This is why so many people can run on bullshit on both sides. Fucking grow up and learn to do some independent research you fuck twig.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ok give me a screen shot then because when looking up pages for the book I found nothing that shows us owing more money than what other countries owed us. or just give me the page number. Why do you refuse to give me anything to back up your claims?

          • Captain America

            McConnel, Brue, Flynn, Macroeconomics, Principles Problems, and Policies, 19th edition, McGraw-Hill Irwin. Now please this is cited research information not your liberal media garbage. Read the whole book terd. Then read Free to Choose by Milton Friedman, did they teach you how to read at your communist taught democrat public school?

          • Dylan Linzer

            So only in some random books will I find a thing that shows Reagan did not make our debt? I will gladly take the source of the entire world over some random book you want to point me to. How about you just find me something that show different instead of making people read an entire probably biased book. Or can books not be biased? I am not asking you to read a first term economics book I am asking you to source one godamn link that shows Reagan did not put us in debt. You cant find it so you throw this bullshit like it means something this book is for children.

          • Captain America

            It explains the Keynesian theory which helped rack up odummys 8 trillion in debt which is almost double the debt that was added up by all the presidents which was 10 trillion. lmao Reagen on his worst day could not do that. Now lets explain how the work force functions, see we have to have tax payers to pay the debt which when the excessive corporate tax and socialist healthcare was placed on us it declined full time jobs to unstable temporary part time jobs. Then we had a major flux of unemployed and displaced workers who could not receive benefits because they had to except a part time job and were denied benefits do to technicalities and red tape, just how your hero works. Now when the benefits ran out they had more displaced workers and some retired early. This figure is not added in the unemployment figure that is now a really small work force which excludes the 36% percent of displaced workers and early retirement. So the numbers look so good. Now look at the 42% spike in welfare, hmmm strange for a economy to have all these so called shovel ready jobs surely their would not be an extremely high rate of welfare. Now with a low workforce you have not enough to pay the interest on the debt with taxes. The value of the dollar goes down from printing money to manipulate the market with the socialist Keynesian theory that was put in place which keeps racking up the debt from pumping money in. So our money is valued less and tax payers are paying for more welfare then debt interest with an already lower workforce. Now when you cripple the oil and coal industry their is more jobs taken and more hardships and more families homeless. Lmao, Reagen has never deliberately sabotaged the American people like your hero has and if you read that book with all those big words and formulas then you will learn you are just a repeater of socialist propaganda that has waged its ugly traitorous views on the American people. Why? Because the Muslims own us because our leader has sold us out for his Islamic caliphate. Why does a representative of congress who makes a little over a 100,000 a year end up with millions in 6 years instead of a little over 600,000? Math is what tells on you because numbers don’t lie and when you manipulate them they will tell on you somewhere else down the line.

          • Dylan Linzer

            except Reagan did put us in debt when before him we had more countries owe us money than we owed. Once you are in debt as I am sure you know with all of your macro economics class will drop GDP. So yes Reagan sold out all future generations so that his presidency could look good. Now we rely on bubbles to keep our economy up. You thing about Muslims taking over the US is just retarded and I would love to see you try to source that information because I am always looking for a chuckle. While you do that try again to source me one thing that shows Reagan did not put us in debt

          • Captain America

            Reagen had nothing to do with the 9 trillion you have now, 9 trillion that occurred after Bush. See your problem was Reagen was a great president that made you commies look bad. Democrats are not worried about the economy they are worried about control. Reagen had Carters mess to fix, that is why he was so good and if you read that book Yes its in their All you are trying to do is babble around the fact you got your ass showed up and communism sucks. Yeah check that book out, I will look up the page for the figures for when Reagen was in office and prove to you CARTER was the one who screwed everybody. Thank you.

          • Dylan Linzer

            OMG! How do you not get that debt continues to increase with every president. Its like you have no idea how interest works at even the most basic level. Guess what Bush Sr. had more debt than Reagan. Even Clinton had more debt than Bush Sr. while he tried to pay it off because of interest. You know who had more debt than Clinton. Wait for it Bush Jr.! What! its like as we stay in debt interest we owe for this debt makes us further into debt. Could basic math show this. Yes but you would have to learn how to use a calculator for this. It’s ok you will learn about it soon enough while you pay off your student loans for your bullshit degree in macro economics. I am sure tons of companies are gonna be needing you! you fucking retard. Simple fact Reagan put us in debt to make the time while he was president better and sold out the future of America. You can see this with us never being able to get out of debt and our debt always growing since Reagan. Yeah Reagan raised GDP while he was in office. I even show you this with the sources I gave you that you probably never read but he did it at the cost of putting us in debt. Why is it so hard for you to grasp this reality!

          • Captain America

            lol It might be all the money your hero is giving away to all the illegals, Iran, refugees, derp, you are beyond stupid. Reagen was the best, Clintons are criminals and you are a traitor. I hope the refugees live next to you and show you how kind they are. Look Dylan you have no argument or facts. All you have is the communist statements they give to you to repeat which are not even true. That is why you make the best victims. So funny.

          • Dylan Linzer

            ok I will source for you again because you have the mental capacity of a small child or dog. Seems you decide things are facts if it agrees with you. Look it’s a picture! maybe this will help because your a fucking retard. It is even color coded what! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/87ba57f67dc7b67f78c91c8b82d2a9371437e03c1274bef20cab3755ca3b9b06.gif

          • Dylan Linzer

            you are just a tool for corporations. They keep putting us further in debt and close social programs so that they can get more programs like subsisdies which is corporate welfare. They rob you of your future and of things to help build a middle class and all the math shows this yet you eat it up. Because commies. Fucking tool

          • Dylan Linzer

            So did Obama make a time machine? Because I showed how the debt keeps increasing with presidents before Obama. It should not be hard for you to look up the average national debt from Carter to now or whenever you wish to start it from. I just mean if my facts are false it should be only a couple clicks of the keyboard to do it. So why don’t you do it? I think the best victims are those that are unable to do research. I am not trying to change your political view I just want you to have an educated reason for your political views. I would be more than happy to be proven wrong. I just want you to do it. If something I have said is incorrect just show me something that proves this.

            “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” -Aristotle

          • Captain America

            Lol This is not a random book, this is what the liberal Federal Department of Education is requiring you to read when you are in economics Dylan. read the book find out you are wrong and shut up. THey make medicine for you mental illness, take it, get a job and do society a favor and shut up.

          • Dylan Linzer

            You mean a first term book and still would not give me any information about Reagan not being the one that put us in debt. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt. How about you tell me which page it is on that says this and I will stfu

          • Captain America

            Its in the book, Read the source and stfu, you have just had your ass handed to you and you have no argument. Source provided, imformation their that contradicts your hideous fake reality numbers provided by your communist source. Good luck if Trump takes over. I hope we go back to the hoover days and get rid of you traitors.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Source never provided and you cant find a single source for your bullshit on the entire internet. this is because A. Your a fucking retard that does not know how to google. Or B. your a fucking retard that is unable to accept a fact. I am going with a mixture of the two

          • Dylan Linzer

            OK I guess you have no idea how wiki works. If you think wiki is a leftist source than you think the entire fucking world is leftist. It is fact checked by other people and all things posted needs to be sourced. If you put up false information you get banned. But I tell you what I will source further. Because with wiki it has to source where it gets its information so https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/ unless the official government site is also a leftist source. Like how do you write any papers if you believe all of the internet is leftist? If your information is true you should be able to find it online. How do you not understand this or do you think the Internets were made by the left to lie to the people? I even decided to try to accept your source and asked you give me the page number. If you believe what wiki has posted is incorrect than fix it but you will need to source your information to do so. I am fine being corrected and would like to know facts. You just seem like a crazy wing nut. Can you please please actually give me some information because you are asking me to buy a book but if I know the page number I can find that without wasting money. Also you know Hoover was president during the great depression right? Are you saying you cant wait for the depression again? Or is that more of my leftist propaganda?

          • boll ocks

            You are obviously a frustrated homosexual. Go get a good ass banging, It will do you wonders.

          • Captain America

            you are obviously are retarded, its ok, we no longer call people retarded we call them liberals. Love the name Bow tocks, You need a good ass beating, as much as I would love to smack the stupid out of you, it would do no good because you just can’t fix stupid. I suggest you go be that gay guy, sounds like you are the only one who is butthurt. Dick head.

          • Captain America

            Oh and I bet this is Dylan too, went and changed your name so you could try to say something really insulting but its to stupid to be anything else. Dylan liberals like gay people. You are going against your own values and I am far from gay, I don’t fuck asses, I beat asses, sorry not politically correct. I like the sound of bones breaking when I hit people. lmao. Now that would do me lot of good.

          • LJSeinfeld

            Do you believe that the irresponsible people aren’t already carrying guns wherever they please? Because: Laws?

        • blue_persuasion

          Dylan, you might want to tuck your vag back up under your skirt there.

          Here’s a lesson: Chicago, gun-free zone. One of the highest incidence of gun violence and deaths.

          DC, gun-free zone. One of the highest incidence of gun violence and deaths.

          Texas, open carry. One of the lowest incidence of gun violence and deaths.

          Now, let the adults talk. You’re obviously a moron.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Texas actually has one of the lowest percentage of gun owners so why don’t you you come back with a little more respect

          • Logic101

            Check your facts on that allegation .

          • Dylan Linzer

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

            35.9% for Texas I even sourced it for you 😉

          • jhk

            You really have me laughing here! LMAO….

          • Logic101

            Sorry, not one of the lowest 59 being the highest Texas in the 66% of the chart. the lowest being..ready..gun free zones DC 3.6% gun murder rates 16.5% ouch bet that hurt.

          • bill marconda

            you are a fkkn idiot liar. Go kill yourself for all your worth is pig shit.

          • Darrell Thurman

            Oh, a typical liberal response to being mentally challenged and can’t carry on a decent, non-foul, conversation.

          • Logic101

            Sorry billy-boy I used HIS chart to prove HIM wrong. You seem to be the epitome of liberal thinking or lack of. Why should I kill myself ? Is it because you know you could never attain humankind ?

          • Dylan Linzer

            Yes a city has a higher murder rate than an entire state. now try to use that math on any actual state

          • Logic101

            DC is not a city , where did you go to school again ?

          • Dylan Linzer

            would you say the population is eqaul to most states?

          • Logic101

            Just using your parameters.

          • Dylan Linzer

            Well now do you get it. I compared it to a city because its size and population are closer to a city than a state.

          • Cyndi

            try getting the numbers “per capita”. Betting Texas has a slightly higher amount of people than D.C.

          • Logic101

            Please look at his chart before commenting.

          • Linda

            I don’t know of one Texas household that doesn’t have at the very least one gun! We have 6 and so far by darn we ain’t killed nobody!

          • Deborah A. Davis

            right on

          • boll ocks

            Not yet anyway!

          • mike

            Mostly being committed by stupid, poverty culture, mexicans.

          • boll ocks

            Yay racism! Go KKK!!! Fuck you.

          • mike

            Well, it is true, right? Otherwise you would refute my facts with actual evidence instead of crying racism. But you can’t refute it 🙂

            “racism” accusations mean someone is telling the truth 🙂

          • blue_persuasion
          • Dylan Linzer

            ranked 30 out of 50 I guess you really proved me wrong

          • blue_persuasion

            Illinois is number 44 at 20.2 percent, yet they account for FAR more gun incidents than Texas. WTF is your point? Are you intentionally obtuse, or are you just that stupid?

          • Dylan Linzer

            OK I will try to make it simple for you Illinois gun ownership is 20.2%
            and Illinois gun murder rate per 1,000 is 2.8
            Texas gun ownership is 35.9% and murder rate per 1,000 is
            3.2 can you do math?

          • Dylan Linzer

            and sorry I meant per 100,000 residents

          • blue_persuasion

            In all fairness, we can’t look at the entirety of Illinois when the bulk of the crime is in Chicago. Here are some interesting stats, however, that show that DC (another gun-free zone) is far and away the most deadly place in America for gun deaths. FAR more than Texas, little girl.

            http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000

          • Dylan Linzer

            It is true DC has the highest murder rate per capita but I would say there is many issues with DC that causes this is issue with a gun murder rate of 16.5 per 100,000 and second place being 7.7 per 100,000. DC is also a hard one to use for figures because it has a whopping population of 601,723. DC would be like comparing a city to an entire state.

          • mike

            Many issues with D.C. that causes the high murder rate in D.C.???

            Wrong again bucko! Only one reason for the high murder rate in D.C. and that is BLACK PEOPLE>

          • boll ocks

            Wow your shitty arguments are so convincing, you really are a debater for the ages. I’m surprised you don’t hold office somewhere as you are obviously a political genius. You really are espousing the philosophy that will bring our country into the next century. Thanks.

          • mike

            Again…the the high murder rate in D.C. is because of black people. If you could magically take all black people out of D.C. for one year, there would be almost zero murders.

            You already know this though, which is why you have to say silly things like “You really are espousing the philosophy that will bring our country into the next century. Thanks.”

          • mike

            Dylan – the high rate of murder in Illinois is because of black people and hispanics. If no black or hispanic people were in Illinois there would be virtually ZERO murders.

            There is a gun shooting EVERY 2.8 hours in Chicago…and none of the people shooting those guns are white, legal gun owning tax paying citizens. They are all black and hispanic degenerates.

          • blue_persuasion

            And just for you, I’ll see what I can find that is more current. That data is from 2007.

          • Linda

            Guns in Texas are not just weapons but prized possessions handed down from generation to generation. My son risked his life to get his Grandpa’s guns during a wildfire that burned his home to the ground. You think anybody knows about these guns?? Nope…..they didn’t have these stupid laws when my Dad bought them.

          • Tim Harwell

            Think you forgot a little something in your equation…POPULATION! While Wyoming is ranked #1 in percentage of gun owners with 59.7%, it has a Population of 563,626 which gives you approximately 336,485 gun owners. Texas on the other hand is ranked #30 in percentage of gun owners with 35.9% and has a population of 25,145,561 which gives you approximately 9,027,256 gun owners! PERCENTAGES ARE NOT EVERYTHING!!!!!!

          • Dylan Linzer

            It is ranked 30 based on population

          • Tim Harwell

            http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/states/population.shtml

            Still don’t think you are figuring right!

          • Dylan Linzer

            how do you not understand how math works but continue to make an argument? I am not sure what you are trying to go for. Yes Wyoming has a smaller population which mean less guns all together and this proves what?

          • Tim Harwell

            This was your comment that I first read…and your point was what?

            Dylan Linzer blue_persuasion • an hour ago

            Texas actually has one of the lowest percentage of gun owners so why don’t you you come back with a little more respect

            And that was your response to this:

            blue_persuasion Dylan Linzer • an hour ago

            Dylan, you might want to tuck your vag back up under your skirt there.

            Here’s a lesson: Chicago, gun-free zone. One of the highest incidence of gun violence and deaths.

            DC, gun-free zone. One of the highest incidence of gun violence and deaths.

            Texas, open carry. One of the lowest incidence of gun violence and deaths.

            Now, let the adults talk. You’re obviously a moron

            Other than the part about respect, you had me a little confused about where you were going with that!!

          • Dylan Linzer

            OK so Texas is not on the lower end of gun ownership percentage wise? Or are you trying to point out how we shouldn’t use DC and Wyoming in the example because of how small their population is? I mean if we don’t go by percentage and just by number Texas is going to rank very high in gun violence due to having so many guns since they have such a large pupulation.

          • Tim Harwell

            Like I said, I was more or less trying to figure out where you were going! Personally, I don’t think more gun control is the answer. And, I am not saying I know what the answer is! But I, like others, am worried that when we start letting the government infringe on our rights, they are going to take more and more of them away! Or, as in Obamacare, our rights will become more and more expensive!

          • Dylan Linzer

            I will agree gun control is not really my first option I actually just like shooting guns as a sport. The argument I was having with this person before this part of the chat was just with getting rid of gun free zones. I do feel like I would not want people to carry around guns at public events due to the fact that it would just cause more issues with people performing shootings not out of some radical cause but due to anger or passion and feel that not everybody with a gun is a responsible gun owner. I do have issues with Obamacare and wish we would put the public option back on just to keep a base on cost and benefits for insurance and would force insurance companies to either make their prices competitive or improve their services to compete with the public option. As it is right now I would agree it is just a hand job for insurance companies.

          • Tim Harwell

            Yep! A handjob, and a pay raise! Our company insurance goes up another 25% January 1st. That’s not even counting the 130% it went up the two previous years! Wish I could get a raise like that!!! Nice talking bud…stay safe. Early day tomorrow!!

          • Dylan Linzer

            Have a good night!

          • mike

            Dude… stop….it is ghetto black people and mexicans committing most of the gun violence in Texas and every other state, and cities like chicago, DC, Detroit, St Louis, New Orleans etc etc etc

          • boll ocks

            Dude i lost my car… and my brain

          • mike

            Notice how you didn’t refute what I said? Because it is true.

          • Dylan Linzer

            its why they do the numbers per 100,000 people

          • mike

            Dylan – It is GHETTO BLACK PEOPLE and poverty culture MEXICANS that are the problem, not guns.

            White people in chicago aren’t shooting anybody. It is BLACKS.

          • jhk

            LOL… Texas has more guns… it’s just we have had them forever, so they aren’t on any governmental lists! Duh!

          • mike

            You must be black. Very few white people are this dumb.

          • Dylan Linzer

            At least we see racism is still not dead

          • mike

            Yeah so? It isn’t white, legal gun owning, tax paying citizens who are murdering people. The highest rate of murder and violent crime are committed by blacks and mexicans.

            I mean…the places with the highest rate of murders and violent crime are liberal metropolitan cities where lots of blacks and mexicans live. If there were no black people living in a place like D.C. the murder rate would be virtually zero. Same with Chicago, New Orleans, Milwaukee, St Louis. detroit, etc etc etc.

          • George

            Respect is givin were it is earned

          • Deborah A. Davis

            very true and the ones blaming all liberals don’t know what they are talking about so ignorant.

          • Deborah A. Davis

            also very true good people need guns to protect them and their families from crazies.

          • George

            Well put sir!

          • boll ocks

            Oh yeah, nothing ever happens in Texas! Because you say it, it is true!
            If you are an “adult” then God help all of us.

          • blue_persuasion

            Show me proof of it, then, if you can. If you can discount my claim, you’re welcome to do so instead of having a tantrum.

        • ob_one1963

          How often does that happen Dylan? And when it does, is the person shooting legally carrying? And if they do have a license to carry, guess what. The penalties are much more severe if you’re carrying and above .04, and that’s just carrying. This is typical of what we hear from liberals. Non-sensical knee jerk comments that just prove their ignorance.

          • Dylan Linzer

            You do know that they count a mass shooting counts when 4 people get injured or killed and we have more than one a day. Do you think all of those are terrorist? This is typical of what we hear from conservatives. Nonsensical knee jerk comments that just prove their ignorance.

      • Infadel Macgee

        Just shows you what mentally crippled idiots they really are . PC is more important than national security to these morons .

      • stillwild1111

        Their guns were obtained illegally, but they could have accomplished the same outcome with semi-auto pistols that hold as many rounds as the AR’s. Gun control wouldn’t have stopped them in either scenario. Oh, and what about the pipe bombs? What piece of legislature would have stopped those? Who will the libs place blame on?

    • David Arbogast

      Let’s not forget that the Bush family and the CIA are solely responsible for disdain towards this country and it’s citizens from middle easterners. Obama had nothing to do with that at all.

      • Larry C Mason

        YEAH AND LINCOLN DIDN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SLAVERY EITHER.

        • David Arbogast

          ARE YOU YELLING AT ME OR WHAT?

      • Virginia Francella

        Lol. You sound insane.

        • David Arbogast

          Really? What I posted is probably more coherent than half the posts on this page. Are you seriously trying to tell me that the Bush family wars didn’t create hatred for the U.S.? If you don’t think so, you are the one who is insane here, that or just another sheep.

          • Byron Shutt

            Blaming Bush? After 7 yrs of His Ineptness? Hahahahahahahaah dilution reins completely in your sorry head.

          • David Arbogast

            It doesn’t matter how long ago it was, the effects have been long-lasting.
            The word is actually spelled ‘reigns’. Learn a bit about spelling and punctuation before you try to insult someone else’s intelligence.

          • Byron Shutt

            You are not much of a challenge.

          • boll ocks

            “Delusion reigns” FTFY and you are an idiot.

          • Byron Shutt

            And you f goats….but hey, as long as you feel safe.

          • Allen Poprik

            David, you can claim no political party but anyone with a brain knows better, just by you bringing Bush into the conversation just shows you really have nothing valid to bring to the table, your not very current on your history like you think you are, I think you really should pull your head out your ass get a clue, educate yourself then when you have a valid argument then come back and connect with the adults, until then go away you and your ridiculous comments are simply bullshit and boring. Good day and nice try, thanks for playing genius.

          • Bill Povse

            Bush needs to be brought into the comments. He is the one that attacked Iraq which started all of this mess. He was the one who gave amnesty to millions of illegals while in office. The people who took out the twin towers were in American during Bush’s term in office. More people were killed by terrorists in this county under Bush then all the other presidents combined.

          • Allen Poprik

            Oh bullshit, this started long before bush, only reason you bring Bush into anything is because you have nothing valid to say, whatever you think Bush did ovomit and the democrats mainly ovomit have made it 1000 times worse, get over yourself pal Bush has been out of the picture for almost 7 years. Get some new material or at least pull your head out of your ass and put the blame where it belongs, on Obamas shoulders, idiots like you amaze me.

          • jhk

            What would you have done after the murder of over 3,000 Americans? The same damn thing this idiot in office is doing? Playing tiddlywinks on the gold course?

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            It’s become apparent that you’ve cloaked yourself in armor made of sublime stupidity. Why post anymore? Everyone on this blog is pointing at laughing at the idiot that calls himself Arbogast. Sorry you were born in this day and age. You’d have been much more at home as a court jester for a tyrant king in the medieval ages.

          • Virginia Francella

            To think anyone is solely responsible is crazy talk.

          • Allen Poprik

            They hated us long before any of the Bush’s came into the game genius, educate yourself, because you haven’t a clue, bring something of value before making anymore ridiculous comments, Bush has been gone for 7 this is all ovomit, learn something sheep.

      • History Repeats

        US involvement in the Middle East escalated in the 50s and 60s. Read your history.

        • David Arbogast

          I have actually, but it escalated even further when the CIA and Bush family got involved with the bin Laden family and other Saudi oil barons, hence the multiple attacks on the World Trade Towers and a failed assassination attempt on Bush Sr.

          • Terry Kuch

            Brain washed much? Quit looking who to blame and spreading hate, division, and misdirection. Classic Democratic strategy, does nothing to move forward, always living in the past and not learning anything new, so destined to repeat history.

          • David Arbogast

            Brain-washed? Democrat? Sorry, I’m not politically affiliated with either party therefore I am not fed false rhetoric by either group, I view both sides just as evil and corrupt as the other. If you look at the comments here, it’s the Right blaming Obama yet again for something created by oil wars.

            The replies I have gotten from my post makes me wonder what the average IQ is for the average commentator, but this being a right wing page…it’s probably low.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            You simpering idiot! Muslims have been killing all others including certain factions of other muslims for 1,300 years. You have the gall to talk about someone else’s IQ when yours is at squid level?

          • Pat Boyd

            And, he thinks we are stupid enough not to see he is a true Leftist? He takes up for that Muslim Dictator in the White House in every instance.

          • boll ocks

            Got that right

          • Lorrie McCarty

            sorry but it started long before the bush family, I believe that Clinton had bin laden and let him go so put the blame where it should be, not Republicans or Democrats but government lining their own pockets and keeping us at odds

          • David Arbogast

            True enough, I never said otherwise but actions against this country escalated even further thanks to the Bush family. All of the “wars” in the middle east in the past 30 years have been on the hands of George Bush and Georgie Jr.

          • Jimmy H

            look further back when borders where drawn by western nations after world war or back towards crusade and the raids and terror islam started that inspired it.

          • Bill918

            We would not have this void in the middle east, that allowed ISIS to develop and foster, if Obama hadn’t pulled all our troops out. All the advances we made, he gave right back.

          • Bill Povse

            Before Bush left office he signed an agreement with Iraq to with draw our troops. Obama was stuck with doing it. It wasn’t his idea and he had to enforce the agreement.

          • free-dom

            If they hate us so much why are there terrorist acts in Spain, France etc?

          • jhk

            They consider everyone that is not of the radical Islamic Faith, Infidels… It is not just limited to the US.. it is worldwide.

      • Byron Shutt

        Were you born YESTERDAY? Still wet behind the ears and your diapers need changing.

        • David Arbogast

          Do you have an actual argument or just a moron whose only resolution is to try to insult people?

          • Byron Shutt

            Innuendos like you put forth are hardly a legitimate arguments. For Liberal loony logic maybe…..but not in the real world. MSLSD is bad for the brain.

          • boll ocks

            Wow, you know the word “innuendo”. I’m so impressed. Too bad you still can’t grammar correctly. Good job.

      • Bill918

        Really? Islam has been at Jihad with non-Muslims for hundreds of years. They do not need an act against them for Jihad, it is a duty. Learn a little about their values before deciding why they act using yours.

      • Christopher Haupt

        Wrong David this has been going on for 1000 + years!!! why dont you take a history lesson and get some facts you dimwit!

      • ToughLoveChiefsFan

        LOL! I knew you moronic lefties would blame the gun for this…but you take stupid to the nth degree, Arbogast, when you attempt to blame Bush! How about you allow your brain to mature before you post such drivel? How about you point your crooked little left-tard finger at the REAL culprits – MUSLIMS!

      • jhk

        Maybe not.. he just opened our doors to get us massacred!

    • Adam Lee

      Where do suppose the people got their weapons from if they turnout to be ISIS terrorists immigrants? Oh, there is no background checks in most states.

      • Benji0804

        From your local democrat.

        • Adam Lee

          No, a republican is more like it. Demos are for doing away with assault rifles.

          • Benji0804

            Really now. In a democrat run state. Unlikely!!!

          • Gramps64

            Adam,
            the general public aside from those with a federal license, does not have assault
            weapons. We own semi-automatic weapons as we have for decades. Our military and
            must police forces have ASSULT weapons, (can be fully automatic)! The
            Democratic Party wants to do away with all guns!

          • Molonlabe23

            Adam an assault rifle is an infantry rifle not attainable by citizens legally without proper (and rigorous) vetting, along with extreme 4th amendment compromises and yearly fees on top of the thousands of dollars the guns cost (I’ve seen anywhere from $4000 to $20,000). So I’m pretty sure you’re wrong about the type of gun used. Keep up.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            There is NO SUCH THING as an “assault rifle”, dipshit. This is just another manufactured word by the left to create fear.

          • Adam Lee

            No, the term “assault rifles” came from the weapons manufacturers. http://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/assault-rifles.html

          • boll ocks

            Wow, yeah, a fully automatic rifle has never been described as an assault rifle. Jesus H Christ, you people’s ability to deny reality knows no boundaries.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            You stupid, dull fuck….just because panty-waist metrosexuals like YOU and other libiots call them “assault rifles” doesn’t mean a damn thing, except that you’ve, once again, found scary words to describe something you don’t have a clue on. You could “assault” someone with a knife, a rock, your fists, or even your car. Renaming things to fit your warped agenda isn’t going to fly anymore, asshole.

          • Logic101

            Dems are NOT above making money on the backs of others, if fact, they’re in a class above all others.. bar none.

        • Adam Lee

          He and 3 of his cohorts were caught before the arms deal went through. It between him and a New Jersey mob. It has nothing to do with being a repub or demo and has all to do with greed and $$$. He’s facing 20 in prison. I think he should be served with the maximum!

      • monkeyboy1861

        You cannot buy an AK-47 from any gun shop legally in the US. Criminals get such guns from gangs, smugglers, or governments. Wise up!

        • Adam Lee

          It was just reported the weapons are AR-15 types.

          • David Mulloy

            Really? That plays well!
            Looks Like DHS has been Distributing some of those M-4’s Obozo bought for them!! Were they using “Hollow-point Ammunition” by any chance?
            DHS Got Lots of that, as I understand!!
            DHS….. The Muslim Brotherhood’s BITCH!!

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Adam Lee….do you KNOW what AR stands for in AR-15?

          • Adam Lee

            Armalite rifle.

          • monkeyboy1861

            It was also reported that the firearms and high capacity magazines were illegal in the state of California. For reference: http://smartgunlaws.org/assault-weapons-in-california/

        • Jonathan

          Lol yes you can. I almost bought an AK but bought a different gun instead. Wise up!

        • ben carter

          You sure can buy an ak47 here at a gun shop, have one. buy shells at Walmart. ar15s are available to. None are full auto.

          • monkeyboy1861

            That is my point. If it is not full auto, it is not really an Ak-47. it is a gun in the style of that gun. Big difference in terms of performance and legality.

        • Dylan Linzer

          I can buy an AK from a store tomorrow what are you talking about?

          • monkeyboy1861

            You can buy an AK styled weapon but not a full auto. The shape of the gun does not matter, the mechanics do.

          • Dylan Linzer

            It is still an AK just without full auto which you can change….The gun still fires the same rounds and has the same power and has the same mechanics on how it shoots. But I guess not having full auto makes it an entire new gun with just the shape of an AK

          • monkeyboy1861

            Pretty much. Call a semi-auto AK style weapon an AK-47 is like having a 12 inch wearable sheath for a penis and saying you have a foot long penis. in a sense you may be correct, but it is not the same thing in reality.

          • Dylan Linzer

            lol no I am calling an ak-47 that does not have fully auto still an ak-47. Unless you really think fully auto makes that huge of a difference because I think fully auto tends to waste ammo and affect accuracy but ok.

        • ToughLoveChiefsFan

          You’re full of shit, monkeyboy. You can buy AK-47’s from nearly every gun shop around, on line too.

          • Steven Childs

            Yes, but not fully auto. Then again I live in CA. You might be able to get full auto in other states but only after lots of $$$ and hoops.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Fully automatic weapons require rigid background checks, lots of money, and literally months of waiting to obtain. That’s in EVERY state of the union. What, do you idiots just make shit up that you don’t know as you go along? He didn’t SAY FULLY AUTO! Why did you read that into it?

          • boll ocks

            and you can modify it to fully auto in an hour if you are not a retard

          • monkeyboy1861

            Nope. A full auto AK-47 is illegal to import and sell. Take your head out of your ass and use the internet for research rather than repeating falsehoods.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Idiot. Don’t talk about stuff you don’t know about. You CAN purchase a full auto if you pass the tedious background checks AND have the money. Stupid people like you should not be weighing in on things they have no clue about.

        • boll ocks

          such bullshit

          • monkeyboy1861

            Yes, your argument is basically baseless bullshit, I agree. If you don’t believe me, look on the ATF website and/or go into any Firearms dealership and try to buy one. You will not be able to legally. IF you can only do it illegally, then no laws will stop that from happening any more than drug laws stop people from using illegal substances.Criminals always find a way around laws.

        • jhk

          Fast and Furious comes to mind!

      • Bill918

        Federal Law (Brady Act), requires all firearms dealers in the US to conduct an NICS background check. There are zero states that do not require a background check.

        • Adam Lee

          Firearm transfers by unlicensed private sellers that are “not engaged in the business” of dealing firearms are not subject to the Brady Act.

          • Bill918

            You are absolutely correct Adam. You stated there is no background checks in most states. On that, you were incorrect. You did not specify private sales.

        • Bill Povse

          The problem is private sales at gun shows. CNN did a study a few years back. They were able to buy four different types of guns using cash and the seller never asked them their name. Some one who wants to go a killing spree isn’t going to buy a gun at a regular gun store. They are going to get it from a private seller at a gun show.

          • jhk

            I passed my background checks and so did my husband…. at a gun show!!!

      • Logic101

        Wrong , I’d say an alley or maybe Fast and Furious. Was that you ?

    • D

      14 dead 17 injured

      • jhk

        I copied and pasted the headline at the time… it has changed since then, obviously.

    • Fabian

      I have no idea what you are talking about. I live just a few miles from where this happened and San Bernardino county is now one of the easiest areas in California to get a conceal and carry. Also the the 10 day ” cool down” period has been lifted. So I have no idea how this blood is on “obamas hands” because it actually has become easier to get a gun. What ever right wing witch hunt you are on isnt true. Gun rights have actually gotten looser in this area.

      • jhk

        Who has INVITED the terrorists in?

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    • Joymar

      HOW ABOUT PUTTIG SOME BLAME ON THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE LAWS RE: GUNS

      • jhk

        But common sense says that taking guns from responsible, law abiding citizens will only let the criminals and murders have the power… Republican Congress has it right!

    • GHUME

      Death to amrica

      • jhk

        God Bless YOU!

      • jhk

        God bless you!

  • WhatMeWorry

    White, black purple, jew, don’t give a rats ass, execute them in the streets on live TV. Send these lunatics a message

    • Clifford Dennis

      don’t forget to pure pig blood on them first and have a women shoot them it will deter any of them doing that again.

    • Paul MacKay

      Just like they do in Saudi Arabia huh?

    • jeffrey

      Exactly

  • Heather Atkinson

    Damn those pro-life Tea Party terrorists!

    … just getting a jump on the ‘media’ and how they’ll respond, if they respond at all.

    • mroadster

      Clearly just workplace violence.

    • Hulkem

      Global Warming is to blame!

    • blue_persuasion

      It’s the lack of jobs. Or global warming. Or something. CERTAINLY it’s not an islam problem. Nooooooooo, it’s a GUN problem. /eye roll

  • GHUME

    i am canadian and a recent convert to the truth,there is no stopping us we are coming.Convert now infidel or be damned when the great wave of islam comes crashing down upon you.i support isis 100% and cannot wait for them to bring hte rule of allah to this nation of infidels and barbarians.Praise be his name,god is good.

    • Someguy123

      LOL ok goat lover

    • FuckAllah

      Bring it on swine…….. We destroy you and douse your body with pigs blood!!!!!

      • GHUME

        i do not want the blood of a sow like your wife and mother on me so i will pass

    • Funkasaurasrex

      Bring your A Game Kareem Feces.

      • GHUME

        im white lol

        • Glenn Gordon

          Not for long .

          • GHUME

            no its winter time,ill be white for months now

    • Clifford Dennis

      GHUME you will not be saying that when the real God kicks your ass in the ever lasting fire and i as a infidel will give you a extra kick to help God out..

      • GHUME

        Your god is a fool,and his followers are below even dogs

        • MeToo99

          Since you are so superior, why are you here in America? Go back to your third world $hit hole and fix it up. Since you are so smart this should be real easy for you.

          • GHUME

            I am a white 3rd generation scottish canadian,i do not come from the middle east.

          • MeToo99

            So what. Go dazzle them anyway! I am sure they are all just waiting to be impressed with you.

          • GHUME

            No i want to make this country thiers and will do Everything in my power to make it happen,prepare for sharia law!

          • MeToo99

            Theirs.

          • GHUME

            no its lower case,you philistine.

          • Dylan

            Look at the spelling.

          • GHUME

            damn.point you guys

    • 2AFL

      Just looked around and found that you are just an internet troll looking for attention GHUME, nice try… but too bad, because just the last statement you made here could get you hurting for certain down her in the US…

      • GHUME

        lol i would say it to anyones face down south,i post under my real name cause i aint hiding,its the poeple who say they will do something on the net are the ones that are suddenly fucking mute in person

      • Shelley White Dove Schoenrock

        Lol. You pegged him. He admits in his posts he is a troll.

        • 2AFL

          yeah I checked around and saw some other posts of his… must be lonley…lol

          • GHUME

            nah me and my friends get a hell of kick out of it,it shouldnt be trolling you terds are like getting in a ass kicking contest with a one legged man,boring as shit but you win everytime

          • MeToo99

            Well, you might want to try putting together a coherent sentence with punctuation, capitalization, and one thought beyond 7th grade. Please, go back to the schoolyard, let the adults talk.

          • GHUME

            Just because you happened to type with all those things does not mean a philistine such as your self has an intelligent thought.And if your are using grammar to be an indignant prick,you’ll appreciate the fact that in non formal banter,none of these things are needed.I was answering an informal statement informally.And if your on the subject where do you have your ph d from?Harvard?Yale?

            These “grown ups” as you call them lack a general coherency that exists in life when one’s head is not firmly up ones ass

          • MeToo99

            If only you could put together a coherent sentence. I am pretty sure your “formal banter” is just as atrocious. It’s okay though, I am sure you will be ready for 7th grade someday.

          • GHUME

            please enlighten me,what wasnt coherent about it.and you truely are a dumb fuck obviously using the word i used i read and write at higher than a grade 7 level.Repeating the same insult that fell short the first time is truely going to hurt.And to be honest who the fuck are you and why should i care?

          • MeToo99

            Why do you care? You seem to care enough to TRY and improve your sentence structure. Clearly, you are just the kind of smart these terrorists are looking for.You are not smart enough to actually be anything but a useful idiot. They are lucky to have you.

          • GHUME

            so you cant answer the question at hand and flip it to something else,this is called deflection.if anyones not smart its the moron who can not answer simple questions when asked.

          • jhk

            This entire statement is incoherent.. “please enlighten me,what wasnt coherent about it.and you truely are a dumb fuck obviously using the word i used i read and write at higher than a grade 7 level.”

          • MeToo99

            Give it up already. You probably should have finished your homework so you could get to bed early. You know you will do better in 7th grade if you are fully rested.

          • GHUME

            oh i see, so you are going the calling the person uneducated route,but you see i was up so late cause i was giving it to your mom and pegging your dad up the ass and i got lots of stanima,say high to mom and dad for me!

            but at the end of the day your just a fucking pussy who hides behind a fake name on The internet.Internet tough guy is what i think they call it.But in real life everyone pushes you around your 300 pound slut wife,your retarded half black(even though your not blavc.hmm) kids,your perverted boss, all the way down to local paper boy.

    • Glenn Gordon

      Bring Your Ass ! you Goddamn , goat raping sand monkey ! I come from South Georgia Motherfucker I am dying to show you fucks some shit yall ain’t never seen ! We’re ready , Just waiting on you BITCH !!

      • GHUME

        you dumb fuck im white and suprise suprise a redneck throwing out racial slurs,so who you sleeping with tonight,your sister,your mom or your aunt or all three the same person.go the fuck bakc in the swamps and do whatever the fuck it is you do.

        • Glenn Gordon

          You about a thin skinned , stupid son of a bitch ain’t you ! First off I don’t sleep with my kin , and if I did at my dick wouldn’t smell like goat shit, Second , those swamps you talk about is just where I want you , because just like you just said , You don’t have a clue as to what it is that I DO . And just because I said “monkey” you took it as a ” Racial Slur” Show’s what you know , Ass Clown ! You let me know when you get your WHITE ASS down here , Would love to meet you .

          • GHUME

            the fact you write in the same retarded broken english that you assholes speak in shows the intelligence of the fucking philistine i am dealing with.so what are we dealing with 6th grade or 7th grade education.
            believe me out of all the shitholes in the world i would go to georgia is far far far far far far down on hte list,pretty much at the bottom.And looking at your picture there sure as fuck is some kinmounting going on.you like the retarded banjo player mating with his sister and a donkey and know one knows who the father is.And please dont insult your own intelligence by expecting that i believe that someone said sand monkey and didnt mean it as racist,as least grow a pair of balls.and no im not gay and stop fantasizing about beastality or anal sex.go watch brokeback mountain spit on your left hand and tell him i cant quit you.And if we did meet face to face im be more worried about you pleasuring my ass than wasting it,your love the cock but dont admit it,and is much to stupid to any threat to my mortal coil.

          • Glenn Gordon

            Chicken Shit !

          • GHUME

            Or seeing as i can find a million other uses for that 400 plus dollars it would take to go from Ontario to said shithole of Georgia.Let alone i have better uses of my time.Now if im ever traveling down that way,id be more that glad to meet up with you to call you on your bluff,cause if your not bluffing im pretty sure murder is a capitol offense in Georgia and i would be laughing my ass of from the other side.

        • George

          I don’t know who he is sleeping with but I’m sleeping with your mom and sister both at the same time while you let the dog luck the peanut butter off yer balls. Your a disgrace to the term redneck

          • GHUME

            Redneck is not a term to be proud of and i am sure as fuck i aint no redneck.every redneck reading the can fu k off and i hope you all die.and how dis you know fluffy loves the chunky peanut butter?

          • George

            Oh yer not. I’m sorry is fluffy your goat ? Hey just saw a pig head at a mosque in Philly you might need a moment of silence

          • GHUME

            Wow you truely are stupid.it was a dog.and ive seen pictures of your wife and mother and i can attest in no shape or form would i ever touch a pig goat or a cow.so maybe your wife might to to have a moment of silence.that sow could be related to the pig in philly.

          • George

            Wow really you have seen my wife hmm that’s amazing how you just posted earlier on the newsmax site how you were a Canadian convert to Islam and how you were going to get the infidels your such a mongloid your opinion on this site and the newsmax site is so contradictory are you sure your not one of Obama’s puppets you degenerate half witted pinhead that is probably actually in his moms basement masturbating to superwoman comics trying to sound like a grown up who actually doesn’t have a clue about what is actually going on in this country

          • GHUME

            Newsmax what the hell is newsmax?i have never posted there in my life.and please show an example of the contradiction i posted there i am curious.and weather you wife is attractive looking is besides the point shes a diseased worthless skank.and i dont live with my mother.i live with six other like minds.maybe you should get a clue at to whats coming to your country and be afraid.cause we are already there

          • George

            Well on one site you say you support isis and above you told Glenn your a white redneck so what is it troll and I really don’t care about your six way homo orgy. Oh and by the way what’s coming guppy?

          • GHUME

            I said im white and it was shock a redneck like him was saying slurs. you said i posted on newsmax so thats if thats a lie do you even have a wife.maybe you live in your moms basement.probably watching gay pron because you are the only one who kentioned that.whats are your brain.i am no troll,i am doing this as prophaghanda for the good guys and beleive me they all have a laugh about the western morons.Its done to show you are nothing to fear.your peoples stupidity is helping gain loyal brothers to the cause

          • George

            Wtf is kentioned, and propaganda for who. Who’s the good guys in your book?

          • GHUME

            The freedom fighters and muulhadeen the world over.the muslims and definetly not america.i stand with americas enemies

          • GHUME

            Ask the english defense league about who i support.the will tell you whos side i am on

          • George

            Who is there tuff guy

          • GHUME

            Just me and a couple syrian nationals

          • George

            Hmm real scary. Hey I just ate the best PORK CHOP you should try it lmao

          • George

            I think I’ll buy a goat and name it GUHME. No I won’t I’ll call it gummy 😎🐐

          • GHUME

            You should be go ask the english defense league about me.they will tell you the same thing that i am gonna say now.i aupport the enemies of america fully

          • GHUME

            Isis will destroy your nation

          • George

            So would you like a PORK CHOP ? 😎🐷

          • GHUME

            The people who run this site must be afraid.they are deleting my posts

          • George

            Lmao affraid of what I’ve been screen shots of you all night so I can forward them to the fbi

          • GHUME

            Send this one:graeme hume is an enemy of america.and supports all enemies of your nation.the lions are not afraid.

          • George

            Screenshots are wonderful I wonder how the FBI will like your posts 😉

          • GHUME

            I am shivering in fear.fuck your fbi

          • GHUME

            Death to america

          • GHUME

            Death to america

          • GHUME

            Death

          • GHUME

            To america

          • George

            So who are you there tuffy is your name really Nancy Hume last I check.she was an actor I think your acting

          • GHUME

            No its graeme hume.nancy is a joke middle name.like a boy named sue

          • George

            Your such a jackass with all these up addresses in your posts that lead nowhere your just a spam bot fuck off

          • GHUME

            If you mean the websites. it happens if you put a period in without a space.and how can a person be a spam bot your fucking dog.if you mean the information about me.your truely are stupid,its all true

          • GHUME

            And i sense the anger you have.is it upsetting to be outsmarted and outclassed by as you pu5 it a goatfucker

          • George

            Him thought you wernt a redneck your above post kind of contradicts your last statement you dumbass troll

      • George

        GHUME is a fake. As fake as Obama he is a troll probably in his moms basement masturbating to superwoman comics trying to sound like a grown up

    • OUTSIDER

      I will ask you 1 question. What makes you think what others believe is Not the truth? You may want to do a little more research on what you call your religion! Not just what others tell you. Do the research YOURSELF!

      • GHUME

        Pontious pilote said it best “truth,what is truth?”

        • OUTSIDER

          Pontious Pilot believed in Allah too! Not the God of Abraham! So what’s the point? DO YOUR RESEARCH!

          • GHUME

            well played troll well played,cant troll a troll

          • GHUME

            600-700 years difference between allah and pilot

          • Andrew Peek

            It doesn’t even know that Allah is the God of Abraham… Just not Isaac and Jacob apparently that’s where everything went downhill.. But hey what do I know other than Ishmael was a bastard and Esau was the son of a tricked Issac.

  • Terry Moore

    I’m sure the president thinks it got to be because of something the Republicans said…

    • lwainscot

      Of course! Obama doesn’t know how to accept responsibility for anything. The people involved in this incident were middle easterners.

      • Adam Lee

        Yea, but they were American citizens born in America just like most mass killings in America.

      • Bill Povse

        The one guy was born here in the US and was an American citizen. Please check your facts.

  • Don Erickson

    if only these victims were armed

  • Folks, here it is!

    More ‘Islamic’ Muslims are terrorizing the USA; all loved and supported by President Obama and Capitol Hill Democrat Party officials.

    • Adam Lee

      Most mass shootings were American Christian males. Where do suppose the people got their weapons from if they turnout to be ISIS terrorists immigrants? Oh, there is no background checks in most states.

      • Byron Shutt

        And most liberals have no common sense. So?

      • Joe Toland

        You are wrong. Background checks in every state if you buy from a store or gunshop.

        • ben carter

          Sure is, been though several. The dealer has up to 3 days to complete the check with the government after 3 days they have to sell you the weapon. If computers are down the three days may be used. I have had it done in an hour. Once I waited 3 days.

      • ben carter

        Sure there is a background ck if purchased from a dealer

      • ToughLoveChiefsFan

        Yet more proof you know nothing about guns, gun laws, gun registration. Stop posting already. You’re stinking up this blog with your stupidity.

        • Adam Lee

          Actually, I do know something about guns, gun laws, gun registration. My family are legal gun owners which includes AR types of rifles. I am a former NRA member as well. I have close family that served and are serving in the armed services. So, we know guns.

          • ToughLoveChiefsFan

            Really? So then, what does AR stand for in the description AR-15?

    • Bill Povse

      As far as I can remember there have only been 3 attacks by Muslims during Obama watch. The Boston race, the Fort Hood soldier and now this. One of the shooters was an American born here in the US citizen. So has been here all his life.

      • 2/12/2009USABuffalo, NY10The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.4/12/2009USAPhoenix, AZ20A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.6/1/2009USALittle Rock, AR11A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.11/2/2009USAGlendale, AZ11A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too ‘Westernized.’ (10-20-09)11/5/2009USAFt. Hood, TX1331A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.12/4/2009USABinghamton, NY10A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for ‘persecuted’ Muslims.4/14/2010USAMarquette Park, IL52After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to ‘take them back to Allah’ and out of the ‘world of sinners’.4/30/2011USAWarren, MI10A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.9/11/2011USAWaltham, MA30Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.1/15/2012USAHouston, TX10A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.11/12/2012USAHouston, TX10A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.2/7/2013USABuena Vista, NJ20A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.3/24/2013USAAshtabula, OH10A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.4/15/2013USABoston, MA3264Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as ‘very religious’ detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.4/19/2013USABoston, MA11Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.8/4/2013USARichmond, CA10A convert “on a mission from Allah” stabs a store clerk to death.3/6/2014USAPort Bolivar, TX20A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.4/27/2014USASkyway, WA10A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.6/1/2014USASeattle, WA20Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.6/25/2014USAWest Orange, NJ10A 19-year-old college student is shot to death ‘in revenge’ for Muslim deaths overseas.9/25/2014USAMoore, OK11A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.7/16/2015USAChattanooga52A ‘devout Muslim’ stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.12/2/2015USASan Bernardino, CA1417A ‘very religious’ Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.

        • jhk

          Read all of this, must may have missed the ATTEMPTED Garland, TX attack this last March, where the only dead were the Muslim Terrorists…

      • The religion of peace
        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

  • Terry

    Now now there,lets don’t jump to conclusions, These men are a peaceful loving people. Isn’t that right obama voters?

  • Jennifer Kozelka

    DEMONRAT politicians have enabled another mass shooting with their gun control laws. LAMBS TO THE SLAUGHTER restricting guns in the building! AND NOW THEY WANT ALL OF OUR GUNS!

  • Chained

    Maybe this is just another FEMA drill like Newtown and they are putting blame on ISIS to create fear among us and to further the anti-gun agenda.

  • RickG

    When did middle eastern terrorists resort to such half-assed measures such as pipe bombs?

    • Stormie

      They left a bunch of IEDs too.

  • Todd Brown

    If its Muslims…Barry from Honolulu has blood on his hands. The only person who seems concerned about Americans safety and culture is Trump.
    Trump 2016

    • Adam Lee

      Who has blood on his hands for the other 70 or so mass shootings in America that were committed by American males and two American females in recent times?

  • Larry C Mason

    HEY AKBAR LUVERS… THEY ARE DEAD NOW, AND THEY GET NO VIRGINS…. YES WE COME AT YOU WITH THE WRATH OF GOD AND AMERICAN BACKBONE.

  • lwainscot

    And Obama wants to bring in more Syrian Animals! What a traitor, and why isn’t Congress taking action to remove Obama from office, to prevent him from further damaging this country?

  • Deepsea5150

    No facts other than one male and one female killed, other suspect in custody.
    Oh one more fact > A bunch of folks jumping to conclusions…Seriously people?

    • Allen Poprik

      Apparently you live under a rock. 14 dead, 17 wounded, 3 suspects dead so far one a Muslim, want to try again genius?

      • Adam Lee

        Born in America like most mass shooters.

      • Deepsea5150

        Only 2 suspects are DEAD.. Talk about living under a rock. When I made my comment it was already confirmed that at at least 14 were dead and 17 wounded.

  • Benji0804

    I bet democrat’s are going to look like fools when they find out they are Syrian “refugees”. Than
    again they will find someway to blame Republicans or the tea party.

    • Bill Povse

      The guy was born here in the US and was an American citizen.

  • retired_geek

    “News Update” – several “homemade clocks” were found in the black SUV

    • jhk

      One was also found in the second floor of the building. They sent in a robot to get it….

      • Bill Povse

        The so called bomb in the building turned out to be a piece of pipe with a rag stuck in it.

  • jules2u

    Should someone inform the posters that 2 are dead and one detained? Their “lions” are not all living

  • David Mulloy

    Wait Till CNN Breaks the News that “Farook Saeed” was a Disgruntled Lunch-room attendant at the Rehab center, and it was simply “Workplace Violence”!!

  • Clay Diggs

    Nope. Shot dead like the cowards they were just like other Isis chicken shit. Hit another gun free zone. We will get to you slimy bastards and you’ll see what it’s like to deal with men.

  • BobF50

    More reasons why Islam should be banned in the US.

    • Bill Povse

      OK so you want to toss out the 1st amendment. If so then I want to toss out the 2nd one. After you get rid of Islam who gets tossed out next, the Jews?

  • Infadel Macgee

    And here I thought it was those bad Amish again . Turns out it was MUSLIMS as usual , by whatever name they’re calling themselves this week .

  • Infadel Macgee

    obama needs to be controlled from arming isis . In short , obamacontrol is needed here .

  • My right

    Guns don’t kill people people kill people the gun dose not fire on it own stop blaming guns and the NRA we law abiding gun owners are having to suffer for ignorant ass people The only way anyone including the government will be able to take my weapons is over my dead body I am a law abiding citizen and respect the laws I will die before they get my guns there for my protection and for hunting It is my right to bear arms it is my right so this is for all you ignorant as stupid blame game people out there you all can kiss my ass !!!!!!!!

    • Dylan Linzer

      Ever wonder if it is a sales scheme to make people buy more guns by threatening to take them away. I don’t think I have seen a single bill be pushed that was to try to take peoples guns away.

      • ToughLoveChiefsFan

        Then you’re not paying attention. Hillary has made it centerpiece for her campaign and Obumbler’s tried 3 different angles so far and failed because of Congress. Catch up with the news at least once every 6 months or so.

  • blue_persuasion

    I already have a CCP. You can guaran-damn-tee you that I WILL be carrying every freaking day from now on.

  • Tim

    Rabid Dogs need to be terminated!!!

    • Questionman2

      So it IS true. Anyone bad that happens in America today. You pathetic racists, bigots, black-hating, klansman, extremist scumbags blame the black man in the white house like the racists T-baggers that you are. Obama haters truly ARE the biggest racists today.

      I don’t understand how you refuse to attach any responsibility to guns, yet you try to attach all responsibility to Obama. That’s just… idiotic. Wasn’t the shooter born here? Calling it work place violence is incompetent but not impeachable. Your an idiot. real fn idiot., Obama had nothing to do with the attack in Cali. Just like Bush had NOTHING to do with the shooting in Delaware State University in 2007.

      1. He does not meet the definition of a domestic terrorist and has not been proven to be a traitor, or even against the Constitution.
      2. I do not believe he ‘hates” America after all it has given him a hell’va
      3. He has done nothing to prove his is truly “evil”
      4. People of the US and not Obama are destroying the American concept. He has done some things that have contributed to the weakening of the concept of what America stands for.

      5. He has attended services at a (black) Southern Baptist church.
      6. There has been no evidence presented that he believes in or is a member of the Communist Party, but lets not go back to the McCarthy Era.
      7. There is nothing that would prove he has committed terrorists acts.
      8. There is nothing that indicates that he is gay, if her were that would have come out years ago.
      9, The impeachment of a president is a very serious thing and there are specific reasons that one can be impeached, which are addressed in the presidential duty statement . As he has not had charges brought against him by now it is seriously doubtful that charges will be filed as he his presidency is almost over.

      Seriously, Stop blaming the Black Man in office for EVERYTHING wrong and grow a brain, but that will be too much for you racists!

      Calling the POTUS a POS and a fraud seems to the usual calling call for you right-wing racists and bigots like you!

      • Tim

        Bend over FuckHead cause you’ll be next with that kind of blind thinking…..

  • Brian Patrick Wennerberg

    What a surprise the cowards of Isis agreeing on an attack on people with disabilities. How cowardly could they possibly be attacking people who could not possibly fight back . It’s a joke that these people call themselves men . They are cowardly mice

  • BigDaddy

    Put all muslims in camps until deportation is possible. Revoke US Citizenship ASAP.

    • Adam Lee

      And then what, put all the blacks and jews in camps and then send back where they came from? And, asians too!

    • Bill Povse

      So you want this country to throw out the constitution? Then who do you get rid of next?

  • Silence Dogood

    These people are causing death and helping to divide the country with political argumentative nonsense. It’s nobody’s “fault” – they are here as a result of a lot of years of interfering. What needs to happen is we need to get smart and stop them. Quit the arguing, what are you all a bunch of 5 year olds or are you grown up AMERICANS? If you’re so smart, strategize on a solution, keyboard warriors and may the Force be with you.

  • Captain America

    Thanks Odummass, how about those refugees? Ooh its not Muslim control? I guess you think we all believe that its the guns fault? Maybe an immigration problem, possibly a border problem, possibly watching white Christians and not the enemy? Pathetic is not the word for this. People we need to outlaw liberals.

  • marlio

    People kill other people with guns; guns don’;t kill people!!!

  • BlessRheart

    Open borders and ‘refugees.’ This is the future, especially in CA

  • Mark_Trail

    Defenseless and disabled people at a Christmas party get killed in large numbers, and then the police come in with guns. The law of self-preservation is being enforced by police when they use guns to attack the attackers. If anyone in that crowd had been armed, fewer people would have been killed. It’s no crime to kill in self-defense, but liberals want to make it a crime to defend yourself with a gun when a gun is being used against you. Gun-free Zones are where these attacks take place.

  • Sarabella

    Until I see the death certificates … there is no killing
    Sandy Hook issued ZERO death certificates

  • Patrick

    Two people, one mala one female. Male American born and female his girlfriend. No bombs found anywhere. Only two shooters and they are dead!😱 😱

  • Patrick

    BREAKING NEWS!!!! TRUMP HAS JUST ANNOUNCED IF ELECTED HE WOULD PUT ALL MUSLUMS IN TENTS IN ALASKA!!! ALSO HE STATES THEY WOULD ONLY GET SLINGSHOTS TO HUNT FOR FOOD. REPUBLICANS ARE OUTRAGED THAT HE WANTS TO SPEND MONEY ON THE SLINGSHOTS. TRUMP SAID HE WILL RESPOND TO HIS FELLOW REPUBS, STAY TUNE FOR MORE ON TRUMP!! FOX NEWS REPORTING.

  • Smm

    People are dead and all you people can bitch about are political parties, I’d say that makes you all look like the real idiots. I’ve never met or heard of any citizen in this country agree with every single point your political party stands for anyways. 14 families were destroyed today, thousands of lives changed forever. If you really want a gun anywhere to do something illegal with it, they aren’t impossible to find. If you are willing to die in order to kill a group of people chances are a group of people will die. It’s the people and the people alone who define what they do and stricter legal actions for people who never plan to break the law with a gun will never change that. You wanna solve the problem you just wipe ISIS off the face of the earth. Send out a declaration that if you’re seen by a drone carrying an assult rifle or like RPGs we will commence with wiping you out with drone launches. Yes there will be civilian casualties but as long as we keep doing things the way they are done now they civilian casualties will continue to be on our side, and I’m sorry but yes I prefer it to be them over me or my loved ones.

    • Jerry

      Glad you said that, I could not agree more. Arguing about percentages and numbers of of people in different cities. You speak of ISIS, have they found out for sure that it was ISIS behind this? I have not heard that.

      • Zachary Goldberg

        ISIS praised it. More likely than not a man who radicalized and carried out evil.

  • Teresa Howell

    And that lunitic in the WH expects us to give up the only thing we might can defend ourselves. While he ships more in and allows them across our boarders. I do not even have a gun but strongly thinking about getting one .

  • Grog61856

    This is Obama’s doing. NOT the NRA’s! Never let a good crisis go to waste, and if need be, create on!

  • Lenard Barela

    obama, gov. brown, d. feinstein, I blame you all for that’s happened. your trying to disarm all American citizens so we won’t be able to protect ourselves or each other. We know you hate AMERICA and are allowing all these illegals and terrorist to come into our country. obama remember when you said about the syrians coming into AMERICA, they are just women and kids. There was a woman suicide bomber in Paris and here in San Bernardino we have a woman shooter. So much for they are no threat. Yet you LIED AGAIN. And all you pansies who said they could just walk into a gun store get those type of weapons. Not here in California without raising a red flag. They could have gotten them from the mexican cartel ( terrorist have a lot of contacts especially with people that hate AMERICA ). obama you want all this chaos.

    • Bill Povse

      You do realise that guns sales are up since Obama took office? In fact on Black Friday over 182,000 guns were sold. Enough to give one to every military person.

    • Adam Lee

      Actually, you can’t blame President Obama for this one. There are no new federal gun control laws signed since Obama been in office. As for the San Bernardino shooters it is a fact that 3 out of 4 guns used were purchased legally by the male shooter and one was purchased by a friend. By the way, illegal immigrants have been coming to America long before Obama was even born.

  • Pico

    Most people respects badges but everyone respects the gun. Armed your selves America. Don’t allow this terrorist to scared us in our ground.

  • Teresa Howell

    I think the media share a responsibility in this because they glorify the killers. ISIS if not given the attention would get board . They love the fear factor they can cause.

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  • shawn

    Well i guess its time my fellow Americans we must start Taking out Anyone that Looks Middle Eastern we see in Public!!! We cant wait for them tk kill our loved ones we must act first they dont look like us so this will be very easy

  • George

    Gun control will not do crap if your a terrorist or a sycho your not going to go to your local gun shop and by a gun. And for that fact Obama’s gun control is just stopping us god fearing Americans from defending ourselves from such acts. If one or two honest gun owners were carrying in that building circumstances could have been different

    • Adam Lee

      Actually, you can’t blame President Obama for this one. There are no new federal gun control laws signed since Obama been in office. Maybe, it’s the state you live in that has strict gun control laws.

      • George

        Obama said we need new and tougher gun control on his briefing

        • Adam Lee

          Yes, saying something and acting on it are two different things. Obama doesn’t the the power to make new gun control laws. It takes congress to do something about this crisis and I don’t see them doing anything with gun control anytime soon.

  • George

    Guns are not the problem. The problem is the government is more worried about imigrants than it’s own people always helping war torn starving people in other countries rather than helping the homeless and hungry in our own country

  • jwayne59

    obama fault in state of denial about terrorist attacks probably more to come now need to wipe isis out. need a real leader not a coward .Hillary would be a coward also afraid to say the word islamic terrorists. don’t belive made up story about a argument at a party,they had bombs ,tactical gear wore isis uniform all black

  • Clint Fuller

    Not without the orders and blessings of this Government. They are their bosses.

  • Eric Wagner

    ISIS, lol these guys are dillusional

  • Larry Miller

    All liberals have the blood of these innocents on their hands thanks to their warped permissive ideologies they persistently shove down the throats of the rest of us.; We will never forget you

  • Joe Mansell

    So wait I’m confused. Obama who wants to limit the guns you get , is to blame for people buying guns. When the conservatives say it’s your right. Agh can we say double standard. Come on people are we that dumb to blame this on Democrats or republicans. Are y’all that dumb you can’t see that’s what they use to keep you divided. So stupid. Wake the fuck up

  • john_willow

    I see none of you are talking about the gunman who attacked the Planned Parenthood clinic. Because he was just an isolated crazy, right? Nothing to do with phony right-wing propaganda about selling body parts, right? The hatred you all promote is nothing like hatred promoted by anyone else. Right? Virtually every mass killing in America has been perpetrated by a white male. But they’re not a problem. Nope. Keep following hate-mongerers like Pamela Geller, and you just might become the next gunman.

  • Terrifying… now confirmed an act of terror by the FBI. The deadliest on US soil since 9/11.

    – Cailin of http://SassyDove.com

  • BigD

    We must not offend them??? What about the fact that they offend the shit out of me? Aren’t they suppose to play the same game? Guess not when the POtuS is your brother.

  • GHUME

    Convert to islam before it is too late

  • Andrea K.

    I’m not getting the answer I asked, just, like on many subjects….googling or whichever search bar! My know-it-all, college educated daughter-in-law lives in Michigan! I made the remark that Dearborn is nearly all Muslim….so are others in that state! She said they are all professionals….doctors, lawyers, etc. None of them would ever join ISIS! I say it doesn’t matter what profession they are, some will!

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