Black Man Claims ‘Racist’ Treatment by Police, Cop’s Body Cam Shows He’s a Liar (Video)

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by Jason DeWitt | Top Right News

Accusing someone of racism is a serious matter. Unfortunately, when the charge is Black against White, particularly with a cop, the media typically believes the charge regardless of any lack of evidence.

It is rare for that false claim to be busted wide open. But that happened in Oakland, California, with a Black firefighter caught in a series of “racism” lies against a White officer.

Keith Jones and his sons were walking back to their vehicle after a Raiders game when he noticed that the garage door to the fire station he works at had been left open. Mr. Jones entered the building to make sure it was secure and was exiting the open door when a police officer, who was already responding to a call about a possible burglary at that location, pulled up and told Jones and his boys to put their hands up.

According to Jones, the officer had his hand on his gun and was in a shooting stance. Jones said he tried to let the officer see his ID, but the officer refused to let him. He said his boys were terrified that the belligerent officer would shoot their father.

The incident ended without arrest.

But then Jones went on the news to proclaim himself a victim of a racist cop who “views black males as a threat.”

He also filed a complaint against the officer, who he said “never apologized” for stopping him.

The local news ate it up. WATCH:

But there were two problems for Mr. Jones. First…he lied about the incident, and Second, the cop had it all on tape.

Oops. WATCH the video from the cop’s body camera that shows a very different version of what happened:

Threatening and belligerent? Nope. Refused to let Jones show his ID? Nope, in fact he asked to see it almost right away. And he certainly did apologize — THREE TIMES — despite going by the book throughout the stop and communicating with his precinct about everything he did.

Now, the same Jones who brazenly accused an innocent cop of racism is suddenly camera shy. He refused to appear on camera for that same news reporter, referring him to his attorney.

Were it not for his body camera, this officer could easily have been facing serious discipline, or even the loss of his job, thanks to the phony media firestorm the liar Jones created.

What do you think should happen with Jones? Let me know in the comments below.


  • Michael J. Simmons

    He should be censored by the Fire Department and made to give a full public apology to the officer in question.

    • Pam Smith Rudd

      He should be fired, arrested and charged!

      • George Frayer

        Charged with what? Race baiting is not a criminal offence. It is an A-Hole offence, possibly a Job Ending offence.

        • Roxann Eaton Merritt

          filing a false report is a crime.

          • WTF

            He only filed a false complaint so there’s nothing we can do

          • Sergio Romero

            He didnt file a false report because he didnt file a police report at all, he filed an internal complaint. Further, to be false, he woud have to knowingly make a false statement of fact. He didnt do that. He complained that the officers motive was racism and prejudice. And if he has the actual and honest belief that was the case, no false reporting. Also, while the fireman cant prove the officer acted out of prejudicial thoughts, no one can prove he didnt either. So no false report.

          • WTF

            I didn’t say he filed a report, I said he filed a false complaint ( I guess I should say a complaint on false grounds). Also it was false since he said the officer did not let him show his ID, did not let his kids put their hands down, and did not say sorry all of which are not true if you took the time to read the story and watch the two videos this would be obvious

          • Sergio Romero

            My comment was directed to Roxann. I think I might have hit reply to yours on accident. In any case, it is not a false complaint. The officer did not let the little boys put their hands down or the firefighter show his ID even after he had identified himself as a firefighter and explain what he was doing there. He eventually did, but not immediately. So there is no false reporting. Of course the firefighters point is that the officer wouldnt have held him and his little boys up like that if they were ll white. He may or may not be right. I tend to agree with him though. I live in Oakland, and im familiar with OPDs history of racism and corruption. This firefighter is a 1 year veteran of OFD. He often works side-by-side and in a cooperative manner with OPD. He wouldnt make the accusation lightly. The cop is a rookie White cop who isnt from.Oakland and may be fearful and suspiscious of black people. Ive followed the story closely through several media outlets (not just one) as well as.my father in law who is retired OFD. Im sure i know more about it than you.

          • WTF

            I think it would would be a little dumb for a police officer to take anybody at their word right off the bat. I mean as soon as he took a look around and had the guy turn around ( to check for weapons) he let him show his ID. I also never saw anyone (the father or children) ask if the kids could put their hands down. As for the only stopping them with his had on his gun because they where not white I disagree I’d like to think he would stop anyone in an empty fire station who is not in uniform and assume they are armed (better safe than sorry) regardless of skin color I mean that would simply be proper police work but who knows I could be wrong maybe he’s of the opinion that white people commit no crimes or something (which would be very dumb on his part).

          • Sergio Romero

            Yeah. In any case,.it wasnt the most egregious of cases. The firefighter is probably upset about being humiliated and having his kids scared. But unfortunately there are far worse cases of police mistreating people.

          • WTF

            Very true I have personally been involved in a raid (which was because of my roomates doing questionable things) in which all four of the Korean people in my house were pulled out of bed not allowed to get dressed and then put in handcuffs while I as a white person was allowed to get dressed and was not restrained at all. The police then proceeded to search everyones room but mine but they were shitty police officers and 3 of the 6 officers wheren’t white (two African american and one Hispanic) I was all kinds of confused. Anyway I know there is corruption and racism out there I just like to think this incident (the incident in the article) does not involve them.

          • Rach Santa

            The cop’s video says it all. He played by the book. Let me ask you a question: if you were a cop and sent to investigate a possible burglary and came across three people in the doorway, no matter what color, would you just take their word for it and let them go? If so, then you’d make a horrible cop.

          • Sergio Romero

            If you received a call from the fire department that they left their door open and were requesting help, and you arrived to find a 9 year old and 11 year old boy.standing outside milling around with no objective evidence of any wrongdoing, would you grab your gun and tell them hands up? would you do it if they were Black? Would you do it if the White? I think if they looks like nice white kids and a respectable looking white guy with a dorky crew cut came out of the fire department, this white cop wouldve handled everything differently. just my opinion based on my experience.

          • dfballou

            What experience?, Your experience as a gutter bag gang banger?.

          • Sergio Romero

            Gutter bag gang banger? Lol. Never been in a gang. You obviously have quite a bit of experience as a ignorant POS.

          • Sergio Romero

            And to answer your question, i have an A.A., a B.A. and an M.S. in Criminal Justice and a law degree. I can see you have some knowledge of the law, but like your intelligence, its quite limited, like that of a police or probation officer. So look before you leap.

          • Thomas Wall

            you forgot to say that you have a degree in racism, I guess your racist words give you away and you didn’t feel a need to provide any further proof. Do you have a job to go with those degrees

          • Sergio Romero

            Oh, i didnt mention my degree in racism? How silly of me. How ever were you able to spot it? Must have been all that racist proselytizing i was doin, huh? God, you are just so darned bright.

          • Sergio Romero

            To answer your question, i have more than a job, i have a business, How bout you? Im guessing youre on disability due toyour gravely low I.Q. If you did ever work, i can guarantee the position did not require any intellect.

          • Renee

            Your IQ is in question more than the other commenters on here. I may need to add that that wasn’t a compliment. No need to be so rude and annoying.

          • Sergio Romero

            Renee, its very clear youre an.airhead. Your posts so lack rationale and substance. You leave little one and two sentence posts that contribute next to nothing. But its amusing that someone with a brain and.knowledge appears on the scene and people like you get frustrated and angry. What can i tell you? Get educated. Or at least read a book.

          • Sandman

            Personally I think you’re completely full of BS. The cop did everything right (as evidenced by the video), but you’re still trying to claim it was racist. You = idiot. Anyone who has to try and bring out the whole, “I’ve got a college degree” thing is obviously trying a little to hard. Go away race baiter.

          • FDC

            Bwahhahaha. . Sergio. .. so you expect us to believe you have all those degrees and then you write a brilliant statement”like your intelligence, it is quite limited, like that of a police or probation officer”? Just goes to show you how really prejudiced toy really ate

          • Sergio Romero

            Unfortunately you misinterpreted what I was saying. I was saying that his knowledge of law was limited, like that of a police officer. You seem to have problems understanding the basic logic and syntactic order of language.

          • FDC

            How long did it take you to write that sentence. . I am guessing 3 hours. .. lol. . Sorry I could not help myself. . You claim to have all those degrees and yet you are in a forum during the day responding to attacks on your veracity. . Just goes to show you how little people believe you. I am retired so I have a lot of time to waste. . Lol

          • Sergio Romero

            Well you certainly do know how to waste it. I own my own business, and my responses are off the cuff. I dont care who believes what. The formal education one recieves means little. Its what their actual knowledge base and reasoning skills are that matter.

          • hatelongwindedilliterates

            His sentences are full of misspellings & errors in grammar. I don’t know where he got all his degrees but I don’t think it was in this country.

          • Sergio Romero

            My sentences have errors because I am typing on small keyboard on a phone, as well as using voice to text,. Moreover, I am writing quickly and ofd the cuff to respond to idiots like you quickly. So no, I don’t double check my work. I’m an excellent speller and have been my entire life. You don’t make it through law school with spelling and grammatical and syntactic errors in your writing. I think it’s quite patent, both textually and contextually, what my intelligence level is. And in any case, I’m far smarter than you.

          • hatelongwindedilliterates

            Wow, I’m so sorry, I didn’t realize we were in the presence
            of a superior being. Seriously though, I
            do feel very sorry for you. You come off
            as a very arrogant, self-important person who bullies people. Everyone on here is dumb, stupid or retarded
            (very politically incorrect by the way) and you are so much more intelligent
            than them. Even though you know nothing
            about these people you insist you are smarter, better educated……blah, blah,
            blah. All this points to very low self-esteem,
            especially the need to belittle people.
            You should seek help, seriously. I honestly feel bad for you, it must be
            horrible being so insecure.

            I do have one comment about the subject at hand. You keep harping on about the children. In all your “schooling” you never once heard
            of people shooting cops in front of kids??
            I find that hard to believe because it happens more than we’d like to
            think.

            Also, I’m pretty sure most people on here are typing on
            their phone (on the little keyboard).

            I’m not going to respond to any more of your name calling or
            stupidity, which I’m sure they’ll be more of because you are an insecure
            bully. Go ahead, I don’t care, I have
            better things to do.

            I will ask the Goddess to send you the strength &
            courage to overcome your insecurities so you can find peace & happiness,
            with yourself & the rest of the world.

          • Sergio Romero

            how incredibly ironic and hypocritical that you accuse me of the very thing that you’ve done to me.you started off by calling me “illiterate”, simply because of spelling and grammar errors. So you were trying to bully me.You’ve made spelling and grammar errors too. The difference is I spot them and you don’t.you want a run down? Okay here it is, in my voice to text the first letter of the sentence is not automatically capitalized, after the period at the end of the sentence there is not a space before the next sentence, my space bar is too close to the period on my keyboard so lot of times theres a period Instead of a space.most of the Miss spelling is from either typing too fast or voice to text error. You won’t respond because you’re a coward and you know that I will intellectually kick the s*** out of you.you won’t respond because you’re out gunned. You’re the one who’s insecure about not being bright, and trying to be a bully here. So physician heal thyself.

          • Sergio Romero

            “In all your “schooling” you never once heard of people shooting cops in front of kids?? ”

            it’s a good thing you quit when you did. You can’t even make a logical..sorry if it makes it sound like I think everyone is dumber than me, but in fact what I was saying was that everyone who’s been responding to me, with perhaps one exception, has been pretty stupid. Yourself included.

          • Sergio Romero

            to be clear, I don’t feel good about calling people stupid for making them feel dumb. But when I come on a site like this to have honest and authentic discussion, and people attack me and call me names, best believe I’m going to react and I’m going to call it like I see it.if people didn’t attack me the way they did, I wouldn’t be as harsh on them.you’re part of that crew,in case you weren’t aware.

          • Roger Harris

            Sergio, LOL, son, you undoubtedly need somebody to help teach you certain communication skills – like how to, perhaps, use a velvet hammer to get your point across instead of your endless frontal assault.

          • Sergio Romero

            Just returning their serve Roger. Read their comments above. Are they being civil to me, with comments like:

            “I do not believe you because of the drivel you write.”

            “What experience?, Your experience as a gutter bag gang banger?”

            “Bwahhahaha. . Sergio. .. so you expect us to believe you have all those degrees and then you write a brilliant statement like…”

            “How long did it take you to write that sentence. . I am guessing 3 hours”

            “you are in a forum during the day responding to attacks on your veracity. . Just goes to show you how little people believe you.”

            ” I don’t know where he got all his degrees but I don’t think it was in this country.”

          • Sergio Romero

            Well you certainly do know how to waste it. I own my own business, and my responses are off the cuff. I dont care who believes what. The formal education one recieves means little. Its what their actual knowledge base and reasoning skills are that matter.

          • Roger Harris

            gosh, I wish I could retire – too many mistakes in life and then, I’m still supporting my grandchildren (from Africa, no less)

          • BBC

            You forgot your “Masters degree in BS”. Ha!

          • TrueWiiMaster

            A burglary was reported, and three people were found in an unlit, supposed-to-be-closed fire department. That’s entirely suspicious, even if a couple of them were kids. It’s not as if kids can’t steal things. Also, it says the officer had his hand on his gun, not that he pulled it out. I’m not familiar with police protocol, but I’d imagine it’s standard procedure to approach suspects cautiously, ready to defend yourself if necessary.

          • Sergio Romero

            What was reported was that OFD contacted OPD and informed them they had left a door open at E29, and asked for an officer to go by and lock up. Thats very different than a burglary in process. There was no reason to believe the kids were stealing or involved in any wrongful conduct. Moreover, there was no reason to conclude they were dangerous.

          • TrueWiiMaster

            That doesn’t change much. The officer went to close a fire department that was supposed to be empty. When he got there he saw three figures in the dark, and ordered them to put their hands up while he radios it in. Then he checked the adult’s ID and let them go when things checked out. What did he do wrong, exactly?

            If you were an officer, and you saw someone inside a building that was supposed to be empty, would you assume they were there to do something nice, or something illegal? As an officer, it would be your job to suspect the latter until you prove the former. If I saw people in my house after I accidentally left the door open, and no one was supposed to be home, I’d definitely assume a burglary.

            An officer should assume any suspect is dangerous until it is proven otherwise. They should never approach a suspect assuming they aren’t armed. Besides, you keep mentioning just the kids, but there was an adult there too.

          • Sergio Romero

            I cant agree w you that people should be treated like suspects until proven otherwise. A simple question to the kids would have gone a long way -“What are you doin here?” Kids: “Our dads a fireman, hes inside.” I think the firefighters point was that if they were white, the cop wouldnt have immediately suspected and feared them and treated them like criminals. They arose suspision in them because they were black. We’ll of course never know, but knowing this departments history, im willing to entertain the question.

          • TrueWiiMaster

            I didn’t say they should treat everyone like suspects. This officer came to what was supposed to be an empty building and found people inside. As I said earlier, that’s entirely suspicious. Anyone would react the way he did.

            If the officer had done as you suggested, this scenario would have gone better, but if the kids had been stealing or vandalizing the building, they would have run. As far as the officer knew, the kids were trespassing, which is already a crime. For all he knew, one of them, or someone with them, could have had a gun. The way the officer handled things, no one was hurt, and all bases were covered.

            We have no reason to think that race had anything to do with this. In the video the officer doesn’t say anything rude, insulting, or in anyway offensive. He just says “put your hands up” and “how many people are here?”, and apologizes after things check out. I would hope that if a black officer came to the same scene (people in a building that was supposed to be empty) he would react the same way.

          • Lyndy Hair

            Perfect! Well said.

            I agree with you 100%

          • cs

            Have you heard of OFFICER SAFETY?

          • James Watkins

            Sergio, you have no idea of what a policeman goes through when he encounters a suspect, especially in an unlit area. We ( BPD) are not on the street to play den mother to people. We are out there to protect innocent people and property and to attempt to remove the bad guys from the streets. Any person in this instance, black or white, is a bad guy until it is ascertained that he isn’t. If he is told to keep his hands up or in sight that is what he is supposed to do until the officer no longer has concerns for his own safety. Its not oppressive or racially motivated. It’s for self preservation. That officer did a great job. You said earlier that it is just your opinion base on experience. What is your experience with the law enforcement community? I hope it’s not because you’ve been arrested.

          • Sergio Romero

            Is BPD Berkeley Police Department? Im glad you feel the way you do. If you read.my posts, especially before they delved into insults and name calling, you will see i was posing the question.to get discussion and responses.from.people, especially people with some meaningful.experience and/or knowledge, and who reply.with a relatively objective, rational, and respectful response. You were one of the few people who actually seem to fit that profile. My knowledge is based on.three degrees in criminal justice and a.law degree. My experience includes work in the criminal justice system and coming from a law enforcement family. I have concentrated at times on wrongful convictions, use.of excessive force, and community policing and crime analysis. In regards to this particular incident, i live in Oakland and have studied OPDs history regarding race relations and corruption. Needless.to say i have a very different perspective from you. So i am probably more receptive to different interpretations of police encounters. But to be clear, Ive never claimed that the officers actions were outrageous or rose to the level of misconduct.

          • Texan1st

            Does knowing that black males commit a higher level of criminal activity in Oakland (compared to other races) allow OPD officers to entertain questions also? Such as questioning why 3 black males are in an unlocked firehouse when nobody is supposed to be there at that time?

            BTW, criminals often use juvenile lookouts to alert them if police start showing up in the area. Mostly with drug dealers but they are used by burglars too.

          • Sergio Romero

            Thank you touching on what most people here are too cowardice to: racial stereotyping/profiling, whether it be founded or unfounded. Though you didnt cite an authoratative source to support your claim that black males commit a higher level of criminal activity in Oakland (compared to other races), i will note that it is well-established that black people, especially black men, comprise a grossly disportionate population of incarcerated inmates nationwide. This suggests that the Black population is invloved in more criminal activity than some other races. But to consider these factors in establishing reasonable suspicion/probable cause, or using pretextual reasons to stop an individual when the real reason is because of their race, known as racial profiling is illegal in California.

          • Renee

            They didn’t report that people would be inside. No one was expected to be there. Why would the FD being asking the PD to be locking up for them anyway?

          • David Allan Coe

            If FD had been made aware of a unlocked stationhouse door, whether someone owned up to it or not, there is the possibility that a burglary occurred and the burglars, if any could still be on the scene. At this point it’s easy to contact a firefighter to ensure the stationhouse is secured. However if there was actual criminal activity afoot, that would dictate a response by PD to enter and investigate a possible burglary or even something as benign as an unlocked door. Viewing the officers body-cam and listening to the audio, this officer conducted this interaction with the public with nothing but professionalism, once he felt safe, he then asked the firefighter to turn with his hands in the air to further satisfy any suspicion that this man was armed. Once doing so he asked the man to remove his ID from his back pocket, informed the man to lower his arms and told the boys to do the same while apologizing to them and telling all to relax. He apologized again while they were leaving the area. I did not hear any disrespect, nor any attitude of superiority and unless I missed it, no foul language. The officer responded, conducted his investigation by the book and is even heard calling off any units en route to back him up as at this point he was probably convinced that the mans story was legit and once finished with his computer checks, everyone went home safely. I believe this was the story we were commenting on but really haven’t seen it mentioned in a while what with all the bashing going on in this discussion. I will say though that I am thoroughly entertained by the posts. Thank you all, be safe and God Bless.

          • USAARMYMOM

            Sergio, Where in this story does it say, the fire department called the police department to report they left the door open? The police received a call for a possible burglary! For you to claim you’re so intelligent, you should make sure you know what you’re taking about! The police officer did nothing wrong! Without this video, the officer would probably be fighting for his job! Shame on this fireman for bringing race into this and teaching his children such hate!

          • Sergio Romero

            USARMYMOM, please shut your mouth. The Oakland Fire Department called Oakland police at 10:39 p.m. the night of the incident to inform them the doors of Station 29 might have been left open, and requested an officer respond. A police officer arrived at 10:51 p.m. Did you consider, in your tiny brain, that maybe this single article, published on a right wing website, written with a clear bias against the firefighter, might not report all the facts and report rhem accurately? Please do your homework before posting.

          • USAARMYMOM

            Here’s my homework you narrow minded dweeb!

            a police officer, who was already responding to a call about a possible burglary at that location, pulled up and told Jones and his boys to put their hands up.

          • Sergio Romero

            Cite your source, monkey

          • Sergio Romero

            Narrow minded. Lol Im actually broad minded and analytical. I see things from many different angles. You have to be able to do that in law. You have to be prepared.to argue for one.side of a case, and immediately switch and argue the other side. So while everyone here wants to stomp and shout they KNOW what happened, Im willing to admit something no one else will: NONE of us know anything about what was going thru the firemans or policemans minds.

          • Sergio Romero

            Still cant cite any credible source, huh JIHADMOM? Hahaha. I love how i dont have to do any work to make people look stupid on this site, they do it for me! 🙂

          • BBC

            You’re an idiot Sergio. Nobody “Likes” you here, and, not a soul agrees with a single word you have said. Have you seen anyone “Like” your inane, illogical bigoted comments? NO. Why? Duh? Because you are a dense, verbose, moron. Said with all due respect.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. More frustration from idiots who couldnt see me on their best day. Maybe no one here likes my comments because its a right wing site, morons know for their two dimensional thinking. Try and show me a SINGLE illogical OR bigotted posr by yours truly. Exactly, you cant. Youre so stupid you couldnt tell a logical from an illogical argument.

          • Roger Harris

            Sergio, looking at your avatar, I’m wondering who the young man is and who’s deceased? Secondly, I’m an old man who grew up an orphan, fighting for everything I needed. College wasn’t possible for me so after I came out of the Marine Corps in ’72 I chose a career path from a childhood ambition. I personally respect the education you have worked for as you seem very analytical and knowledgeable in this area of expertise. Over the years, however, I’ve come across some very angry people — the insolence and the malice you project towards others is unfortunate. You are, from my perspective, a very smart/very bright young man (33-35-ish?). Not that you would take any advice from an old man but maybe in the future you can learn to have a little more humility and compassion for others – please don’t learn it the hard way like I did. Buena suerte, mi joven amigo. from 09N 02W / Dark Continent Command

          • Sergio Romero

            Roger, Thank you for the kind words and advice. And Thank you for responding with respect and empathy. I really appreciate your accomplishments as well as your service to our great country. I know I can be quite vicious at times. But if you look back through the posts, you will see that anyone, ANYONE at all who approached me with any degree of respect or civility got it in return, regardless of how much I might differ with their opinion. Every single nasty argument in which I was engaged was began by someone calling me stupid or illogical or a fraud or any other host of insulst and disrespect. They did that in their very FIRST comment to me! Im aghast at how people treated me here, simply because I had a different way of looking at things, and was guarded with more facts than them. Please send those people the same effective message you sent me, because I was defending myself. I know none of that is an excuse to act ugly, but sometimes its so infuriating having someone tell you you dont know what youre talking about and that youre stupid, when it is actually them. People like that need to be checked so they dont go around treating people like that. In any event, for the last few days, Ive only replied to comments directed at me – no new content from me. Im trying to wind this down, but people keep coming with new insults! Lol. Thank you again. Hope you have a great week!

          • Roger Harris

            No worries, son — try to relax, don’t let others get under your skin if you can help it (hey, I’m 62 and should follow my own advice) but it never hurts to read your bible. I have three apps on my iPad and read/research everyday. The most important thing you will ever do is have a relationship with Jesus Christ — time is drawing near, this country is in such bad shape. Also remember, the measure of a man isn’t about how much he has, rather than how much he gives and shares with others. Anyway, sorry for the sermon – all the best, God bless, and may you find peace in your heart, mind, with your words, and in everything you do. Stay in touch!

          • Sergio Romero

            Thanks Roger. Best to you.

          • Sergio Romero

            I actually have almost 40 upvotes, you dipshit. And maybe most people here dont agree because this is a right wing site – people known for two dimensional thinking – i.e. not very bright.

          • Sergio Romero

            Stil waiting for you to identify a SINGLE illogical OR bigotted post of mine. Looks like youre falling on you face. Now whos the idiot? BWAHAHAHA!!!

          • EspressoME

            Uh…. there’s a NEWSCAST with the firefighter speaking. I do not know how anyone can put a biased spin on someone’s own words. The Firefighter spoke on his own behalf… That was followed up with the video footage from the police officer’s body cam–which directly contradicts what the firefighter said IN HIS OWN WORDS! So, tell me, how is this being spun by right-wingers?

          • Sergio Romero

            “I do not know how anyone can put a biased spin on someone’s own words.”

            Ill show you how. The article states:

            “[Jones] filed a complaint against the officer, who he said ‘never apologized.'”

            Where in fact did Jones ever say the policeman did not apologize? According to the reporter in the news clip, the expert on police procedure who reviewed the video said “the police officer should have at least apologized.” (at 2:36, KPIX news clip, interview with Keith Jones). This is not evidence that Jones ever claimed the policeman did not apologize.

            The article also reads:

            “Jones said he tried to let the officer see his ID, but the officer refused to let him.”

            But that is not accurate. In the KPIX news clip where Jones is interviewed, the reporter states “…the lone officer allowed
            Jones to reach into his pocket and show his firefighter ID.” (at 1:48, KPIX news clip, interview Keith Jones). Jones never claimed that the cop did not allow him to show his ID.

            The article stated that Jones described the cop as “[t]hreatening and belligerent.”

            I have consulted several sources of information, and the above article is the only one making that claim.

            Regardless of those issues, the article is bias and non-objective. An objective article would simply report what Jones claimed, get a response from officials, and show the video for people to see, not call him a “liar.”

            Even if Jones was wrong about the details of the encounter, that wouldn’t necessarily make him a liar. It is well-established that human perception is diminished during tense and stressful encounters, and recollection of the events is often skewed. The article above makes the unwarranted assumption that Jones is lying.

            A long line of research shows that right wing ideology includes prejudice, mistrust, and fear of Black people and other out-groups. “One of the most powerful predictors of prejudice is right-wing authoritarianism (RWA). A large body of research spanning more than 60 years has shown that people who are high in RWA tend to be prejudiced against a wide variety of groups, including feminists (Duncan, Peterson, & Winter, 1997), lesbians and gay men (Whitley & Lee, 2000), Native Americans (Altemeyer, 1998), Arabs (Siegman, 1961), immigrants (Quinton, Cowan, & Watson, 1996), and the obese (Crandall, 1994). (Right-wing Authoritarianism, Social Dominance Orientation, and Prejudice. Whitley Jr., Bernard E. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Vol 77(1), Jul 1999.) So it is not a surprise that an article written for Top Right News would carry a bias against a black man complaining about a white cop.

          • FDC

            and that’s a racist opinion

          • Keith Saidit

            Seriously? That’s like asking a kid what a stranger looks like. Anyone you don’t know is clearly a stranger. And by what experience can you claim on how a situation is handled in regards to another race? You have the power to change color and test your theory? A police officer responding to that situation would have reacted the same no matter the race. And how do I come to that conclusion? Because he acted professionally and showed no bias to indicate he would treat anyone else with any less respect.

          • Sergio Romero

            Thats why i pose the question, as food for thought. Im glad you conclude the officer would have reacted no matter the race. I’ve yet to see anyone stand up and state what they actually believe: that these people shouldve been treated with suspicion because they were black. There are racist and biggoted people right here on this site. Theyve remained silent thus far. So we shal see..

          • Don Newcomb

            Oh there’s plenty of racism going on here. All I see you saying is Black, black, black, black, black. And then – WHITEY. Sounds about as racist as the fireman’s story which, is also bullshit. Look past color if you can dude, strip our skin and we all look the same…

          • Sergio Romero

            Not sure what the first part of your comment means, or that it means anything at all. But I do agree with the last part of your message. Part of the problem with this site is that people don’t understand what I am saying and what I am not saying. They have heated, irrational knee-jerk responses without truly understanding my meaning. Mostly im not saying much. Mostly i am posing the question to hear peoples answers. I know there are people here who are biggoted and are suspiscious of black people. So far no one has had the gogones to openly admit that. The other thing I’m saying is that the firefighter is not guilty of filing a false report, for several reasons. I’m an analytical person, & a lot of the people here are not. So they see things in black and white and can’t meaningfully understand my messages.

          • Don Newcomb

            No, he guilty of being a race-baiting p.o.s. trying to cash-in on false accusations. I hope he loses his job, his home and his family life over it. A stupid stunt. I’m not racist in any way. I hate each and everyone exactly the same. A N@#$%r is a N@#$%r no matter what color you are and this guy fits the bill. If he was white and the cop was black he would still be a race-baiting N@#$%r.

          • Sergio Romero

            now that is something I can appreciate. A man who speak exactly how he feels. Most of the cowards on the site aren’t willing to do that.

          • fiveseven15

            have you been to oakland? i’m guessing not. police HAVE to be cautious there. even news crews with ARMED security get mugged. its not like atherton or the hamptons. its a city where a police officer HAS to watch their back and be extremely cautious about everything. i dont see any fault about what the officer did, he even apologized. if you have ever been in oakland, you would know how sketchy the area is.

          • Sergio Romero

            I live in East Oakland.

          • K Marie

            servio, you are racist and believe stigmas if you think he would’ve acted any differently if they were white. white people pose a threat too and I’m sure he would’ve acted the same way. you may not have but I’m sure an officer would have.

          • Sergio Romero

            K, thank you for sharing. I can assure you, I am not racist. The generally accepted definition of a racist is “a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.” I have no such beliefs. I mostly was posing the question to hear peoples reponses, like yours, which I value. Based on my knowledge and experience, I might not agree with you, but thats ok. This is America. We have freedom of opinion here. I for one am not holding onto any one belief and sticking by it no matter what. I am willing to entertain different possibilities. So i thought the question was worth entertaining. I have no idea if the officer is racist or not. No one here does. All we have are our opinions. So a question like that is great for forums like this, to exchange ideas and opinions. Sadly, some people dont understand that. They react strongly and quickly, often without even taking the time to understand what I am, and am not saying. They call me things like racist or race baiter, often without even understanding the actual definition of those words. Its a bit sad that people talk about “America the Great” while completely overlooking some of her most precious values since her inception. values like freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and civility.

          • Peter Scalone

            Seeing a 9 and 11 year old at the entrance of a firehouse with no firemen present would not raise your antennas a little bit? The police officer did not randomly just show up at the firehouse.He was dispatched there to investigate a possible burglary.In Chicago my dad’s old firehouse used to get hit all the time whenever the firemen went on a run,so why wouldn’t you at least be a little suspicious?The officer did a great job.Your an idiot.

          • Sergio Romero

            Peter, its unfortunate youre so stupid you cannot understand what I am and am not saying. I didnt say it wouldnt raise my antennas. What i said was, since there was no call of a burglary or other crime in progress, and there was no articulable details indicating the two kids were engaged in any cime or other wrong doing, and even more, that they were not armed or dangerous, the officer did not need to reach for his gun, assume a shooting stance, and tell two little boys “hands up.” This rookie cop won the Top Gun award at his academy, meaning best points in shooting. he didn’t win best communicator, or de-escalator, or most culturally diverse. So he went right to what hes most comfortable with – his gat. As much nonsense and BS is spewed on this site, few people address the essential question: would he have reacted the same if it was nice white kids standing there? Or would he have been less fearful and simply started investigation with basic inquiry?

          • fiveseven15

            you didnt watch the video of the officer’s body cam did you?

          • Sergio Romero

            Please dont be retarded. Read my other posts to learn my my sources of information on the incident.

          • Renee

            Your essential question has been answered numerous times; that most feel that he would’ve and did react the same as if they were white. You keep refuting commenters replies. You feel blacks are mistreated. Those who disagree are clearly just stupid in your eyes and must be convinced..

          • austin

            The officer wasn’t responding to a burglary ! YOUR THE IDIOT READ MORE if you can …. He was dispatched to close the door! And Chirack is dirt compared to Oakland!

          • fiveseven15

            he had his hand on his gun, at no point did he actually draw.

          • Sergio Romero

            Correct.

          • Sergio Romero

            No one ever said he drew his gun. You havent read the reports, have you?

          • James Watkins

            So, he never went for his “GAT” huh Serg?

          • Sergio Romero

            Clarify your question Watkins

          • Thomas Wall

            My neighbor was robbed by a group of six kids the oldest being 11, they had a 4 year old lookout in the front yard, he was just as cute as a button, while inside the kids gathered up hand guns and things they liked and put them in pillow cases and set them outside a second story window. They tried to steal a 60″ flat screen tv from the second floor bedroom, lost control of it at the top of the stairs, and watched it tumble down to become a worthless piece of busted up appliance. The lady from two doors down left her home to go visit at the end of the street. she saw the little boy in the yard and asked him what he was doing and he said, I’m the lookout, my brothers and their friends are inside robbing the house so if I see a cop or the owner coming down the street i will run in and yell . she called the police and they were caught. so don’t think a child wouldn’t be involved in a break in, that is just to simple.

          • Sergio Romero

            Thomas, i never said kids dont engage in crime. Reread my comments carefully and hopefully youll understand what is and isnt being said.

          • Renee

            Kids are known to be used as lookouts. Then out comes an adult. You continue to claim that he wouldn’t have been threatened by whites. That his expectations based on experience would have been different. Sounds like experience predicts more dangerous behaviour from blacks than whites. I derive that from what you keep saying. Basically you are being a racist pot stirrer. Your arrogance is showing. You seem to think other commenters are incapable of keeping up with your intelligence. I guess you can’t help it but it is irritating.

          • Renee

            So what you are saying that a white person would have more reason to expect an attack from a black person than a white. From the white man’s experience?

          • OnePissedOffAmerican

            So what you are saying is that every police officer should believe anything that is told to them by anybody. Are you delusional? Do you live in our world or are you a member of some alternate universe? GET REAL!!!

          • Don Newcomb

            He is obviously a member of the alternative universe known as Obama Land. Just another lib-tard race baiter blowing smoke up everyone’s ass in true form.

          • Sergio Romero

            Ah, an educated man. Lol

          • Mark

            You make a lot of assumptions there Sergio. Maybe the cop’s dad is black. Maybe your father in law is racist. Maybe you think you know more than you actually do. Whatever the case, the facts are the facts about this case. The firefighter is an idiot who filed a false complaint with alterior motives. I’m thinking maybe he wanted a payday by ultimately suing and taken advantage of society’s shortcomings. Maybe he’s racist and hates all white people. I don’t know. What I do know is police don’t just give people the benefit of the doubt and believe everything they say; especially when called to a felony in progress. Police investigate. And when they are comfortable with the fact that their lives are not in danger, then and only then, do they resolve the issue at hand. Police don’t have the luxury of being wrong. Maybe you can ask your retired father in law about that.
            Oh yeah, and maybe you shouldn”t be so naive.

          • Sergio Romero

            I wasnt making a lot of assumptions, i was mostly posing the question. Youre the making all the assumptions. Maybe this and maybe that. And no, my father in law is def not racist. Lol. It sounds like you rhink you know more than you do. firefighter couldn’t possibly sue the police department or anybody else because he suffered no damages. And fyi therewas nocall of a felony in progress. The fire department contacted the police department and informed them they left their door open and requested police to go by and close it for them. there was no reason to assume lives are in danger when he saw two little kids standing in front of a fire department. And I don’t need to ask my father in law anything, I have first hand knowledge of police and investigative procedure. ultimately the question is, what the officer have reacted the same if they were two little white boys instead of black boys? if a white firefighter came out instead of a black one?

          • FDC

            my answer to that would be yes he would have treated anybody that way black white green yellow or blue..m they were called to an open door which could be a burglary

          • Sergio Romero

            Hopefully yes, he would treat anyone the same. I pose the question because i know the strained race relations between police and the black population in this city, and the history of racism in the department. I ask the question as food for thought. Unfortunatley some people are.so ignorant to police misconduct theyre not open to any possibility of police wrongdoing. I stay open to any possibility.

          • Anthony in Jax

            If there is such a history of racism and strained relations between police and the black population, why ask that type question at all? This video shows a display of utmost professionalism on behalf of the officer. Why not just appreciate it for what it is instead of posing a question contemplating the “what if” if they were white? Again, appreciate it for what it was, a display of professionalism with the hopes that all officers in the OPD follow suit in an effort to progressively reduce that racial strain and begin fostering a positive relationship between the police and the community. Asking questions like the one you pose, to me, seems to keep that racial tension and divide alive and well.

          • Sergio Romero

            Well stated. I like your point. I can’t say that I agree with you. I think the question is worth asking. But two minds can differ.

          • Anthony in Jax

            Well, to answer your question, no I don’t think that officer would have handled that situation any differently if that firefighter and his kids were of a different ethnicity. I base my opinion as a concerned citizen as well as a former LEO. In viewing the video I truly believe that officer handled that call in a professional manner, showed great calm and restraint in an unknown situation. He didn’t even perform a pat down, he simply had the man do a quick 360 to see if he had a weapon readily available. The officer quickly and appropriately reduced caution and treated the firefighter and his family with courtesy and respect. I see absolutely no evidence or even an insinuation of racism. So now I have to ask, why is it worth asking what he would’ve done if he were dealing with white people? If not to race bait, what is the purpose of asking? What is the food for thought here?

          • James Watkins

            A black firefighter didn’t come out of that firehouse, a black suspicious person come out. And if he was a burglar he certainly wouldn’t have told the officer that he was a burglar.. He would have tried to throw the officers suspicions off by saying he was a fireman. That is simple logic. And the officer is trained to realize that. I bet they didn’t teach you that while you were earning one of your BS degrees.

          • Sergio Romero

            Lol. Now youre just being stupid and condescending. So here we go again. So are you a White retired cop?

          • Sergio Romero

            In fact im quite familiar with the basis for reasonable suspicion as well probable cause. Lemme ask you, do you have any education?

          • FDC

            anybody can say they are a firefighter doesn’t mean it’s true and no I wouldn’t let them put their hands on either I don’t know what they’re up to. that’s good police common practice. and you don’t know more than anybody else.fearful and suspicious of black people now who’s being prejudiced. he was practicing safety like he has been trained to do.just because you live in Auckland doesn’t mean you know everything

          • Sergio Romero

            Wtf? I dont live in Auckland. Lol.

          • Thomas Wall

            It sound like you don’t know anything, rookie or veteran he did the procedure he was trained to perform to a T. No one is so far above the law that they don’t have to comply, and this man knew how it looked to the officer so he should have complied instead of trying to talk his way out of a jam. It would have ended sooner when all of the facts came out. A man who would put his children in that position has no complaint, he is the one at fault. There was nothing racist on the officers part, only on Jones’s part when he lied about the incident on television. How do you expect things to heal and go right if you keep on rubbing salt into the wound of past actions? This is about the here & now.

          • Sergio Romero

            Youre comment is not fit for a public forum. Please develop some knowledge base, then form coherent, well-reasoned thoughts, transcribed into logical language, prior to posting.

          • Wow….you need to take your own advise and find a low level
            Forum for yourself. Do you not watch the news and see what police officers go through trying to protect and serve? Black,white, purple,yellow it does not matter when you are in an unknown situation as law enforcement you do as you are trained. He controlled the situation making sure everyone was safe and never missed a beat talking to dispatch while he was doing all that multi tasking. You sir need to show some respect for law enforcement of all race and gender and stop trying to feed racial hate in our society.

          • Sergio Romero

            Julie, I get the sense that you’re not only ignorant and stupid, but that you’re also fat and have had a hard time finding guys who respect or care about you in life. Nevertheless, I appreciate hearing your opinion. As you know, mine is different than yours. But that’s okay, that’s the beauty of America, we are all entitled to our own opinion. what is not okay, is to misrepresent someone’s position. Go back and read all of my posts, and educate yourself before speaking. Never did I saythat the officers conduct was outrageous or that it rose to the level of misconduct. Mostly I just posed a question for others to answer whether they thought he would react the same if the people were white. Now people can keep attacking me and trying to say that I’m claiming this are claiming that, but mostly I’m just here to engage in discussion. I don’t understand why morons like you cant understand that.

          • Unfortunately I have read your post. At first It was just for amusement but now seeing how you are trying so hard to create racial hate out of something that clearly had nothing to do with race just makes me feel sad for you. If you want people to take you seriously you should stop with the name calling and childish banter. I will not comment on this forum after this but I will pray for you that you find peace in your heart and learn to love yourself. Because Sergio you can’t have love for others until you first love yourself :))))).

          • Sergio Romero

            Omg, I just shed tear. It’s not about love baby, it’s about legalities and policy. It’s also about understanding and respecting others opinions. You have so totally misrepresented my position that you should actually be ashamed of yourself.

          • g_man1

            He made a false complaint to internal affairs…. It is a criminal offense… It is called perjury.

            When you sign a complaint it is a legal document that under oath you swear that it is the truth…. The guy lied and committed perjury.

          • Sergio Romero

            How do you know he signed anything? Or that he signed it under oath. Even if he did, just because he was wrong doesnt me he intentionally lied. No false report.

          • Renee

            He didn’t have to sign it. He reported it on camera. He did intentionally lie and his motive was to falsely report racial injustice and promote tensions.

          • Sergio Romero

            Renee, you come off as quite dumb. Claiming something to a newsreporter is not filing a formal.and official report or complaint. Without more, there is not.sufficient evidence to prove he lied. Do you have any basis of knowledge to be posting in public forums? Please dont waste others’ time. There are forums for preteens and other low level venues for you to try and contribute meaningfully.

          • Guest

            You’re the “dumb one”. Read you’re posts before you send them. You sound like an illiterate. Do you have an “basis of knowledge” of proper spelling and grammar? You want to use “big words” and call other people names but don’t even double check your post.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. Little frustrated are you? Because youre so entirely stupid. I have excellent spelling and grammar. And most of my posts reflect that,with some minor mistakes here and there. But I am typing on a phone and off the cuff. Most of these idiots are doing it on a computer and spend a lot of time. If you weren’t such an idiot, you wouldn’t worry about spelling and grammar and concentrate on the substance of what I’m saying. Illiterate? I have a bachelors and two post-graduate degrees. Youre outta youre league, friend.

          • Jared Stasch

            Guess you dumb ass didn’t watch the video with Jones completely lying about the cop and defaming these white cops using lies and race baiting. The black man completely lied and did it on video using his kids as props.. He even filed a complaint and yes you SIGN the paper when you FILE a complaint. You got your head so far up this black mans ARSE you can’t see straight

          • Sergio Romero

            Please refer to my previous posts countering every stupid thought you just managed to communicate in complete sentences prior to pretending to know anything.

          • Roger Harris

            I have a high school education and probably pay more in taxes per year than you earn.

          • Sergio Romero

            Ok, but youre still stupid. So good luck with that.

          • Sergio Romero

            Why did you put “big words” in quotes? Hahaha! You’re such an idiot. You’re trying to criticize my grammar and syntax? You’re such a fool. Hahahaha

          • Sergio Romero

            And I think you meant “your posts,” not “you’re posts.” You illiterate moron. HAHAHAHA

          • Don Newcomb

            I’m on no one’s side here, and everyone has some really great stuff to say and I enjoy putting my two cents in as well. But, you should really check your own spelling and grammar before ridiculing someone else. Here, let me give you a quick lesson. As a general rule the preposition ‘an’ is used when the word or phrase following begins with a vowel, you know what those are right? A, E, I, O, U. And don’t forget – sometimes Y.
            The preposition ‘a’ is used when the word or phrase following begins with a consonant. (That would be the rest of the English alphabet.)

          • Sergio Romero

            Lol. Comedian. If you would like to see my professional legal writing, id be happy to show you. Its in a level youll never reach. Do you have anybeducation, sir? Didnt think so. BWAHAHAHA

          • Don Newcomb

            That reply was not directed to you Sergio. It was directed to the ‘illiterate moron’ guest above that does not have the gonads to share who he is. And yes, I am well educated. And your legal writings are probably on the level of a 10th grade ‘Introduction to Law’ class. So reading them would be a mute point. So read thoroughly and pay attention to whom the comment is directed to before you go running your mouth in the wrong direction.

          • Sergio Romero

            My bad!! Sorry

          • JPindiorski

            LOL…Finally you sad something completely accurate.

          • Chris N Sully Collins

            Actually, you mean…it is a moot point. Not mute.

          • Maplinks

            I think both parties reacted to the situation as they experienced it. In the light of recent events, having a gun pointed at you when you know you have done nothing wrong raises questions. Thankfully the officer allowed the dialogue that transpired. However no one can say with certainty that our actions are not influenced by stereotypes. I see no contradiction in Mr Jones video account of the events and the police body-cam. That he complained about the incident also in my opinion is also okay because that is one of the ways he could deal with the trauma of the experience. Could the police officer have done differently, is an irrelevant question. He acted cautiously. Because it is the law it does not mean we must accept or suffer every spite. We as a society are responsible for the prevailing suspicion that informs our presumptions.

          • mary witte

            Keith Jones was treated with respect by this officer and he still chose to lie about it, What he saw was a dollar sign and a way to get a white cop in trouble, there was no trauma or threat, just a huge racial lie coming out of his mouth while he taught his children to lie for him. After the body cam video was viewed he disappeared, no comment no apology>just a guilty vanishing act

          • Scott Rasener

            Hey Don, your dumbass is showing! It’s “moot point”, not “mute point” Google it if you don’t believe it.

          • Don Newcomb

            Really Scott? That’s all your intellect will allow you to point out? An auto spell error? Try showing some intelligence dumbass.

          • Scott Rasener

            You wish it was an autospell error…LOSER! It’s called “spellcheck”

          • Don Newcomb

            What’s wrong ‘dumbass’? No more stupid remarks to make? Why don’t you Google ‘dumbass’? I bet your picture pops up! Hahahaha!!!

          • Scott Rasener

            WOW! You’re just too brilliant…guess I’ll just scurry along now that you’ve made such a fool of me…ROFLMAO

            Get a life Don, your loser is showing.

            I’m done with you, your ignorance is not worthy of my time. Correction…ignorance can be cured, stupidity cannot. If you’re wondering which category you fall into, you’ve already proven yourself.

            Have a sad, pathetic life…and enjoy that dead end job too…LoL

            Now, be gone peasant!

          • Michelle Mexicali

            ????

            Care to explain beducation? Is that education from a bed?

          • ron

            I think all you write is porn

          • tj

            “Read you’re posts before you”–I love irony

          • hatelongwindedilliterates

            Seriously, you’re calling other people names. Read your posts. They’re full of spelling & grammatical errors.

          • Sergio Romero

            Pretty much the stupidest thing you can do is to try and attack formalities of a person’s speech while ignoring their substance. You probably are actually the dumbest person on here. the day your literacy could ever approach mine, is the day hell freezes over. I entered San Francisco State as a writing major. I minored in English literature. I’ve studied Spanish, Italian, Mandarin, Japanese, and Korean, as well as General Linguistics. And I’m illiterate? That’s hilarious. What are your qualifications to be leaving any comments whatsoever here? Let alone trying to challenge someone who is clearly far smarter than you

          • Michelle Mexicali

            You have supposedly (heh) studied all these languages yet you don’t grasp them when you hear them.

            It’s not the rest of the world that is a dumbass. Honest! It’s you.

          • Sergio Romero

            Wheres fatfuck? Where’s my sugarlard? Cmon baconfat, show us your Uggs.

          • mary witte

            stop it, there enough stupidity on line with you adding your little bit

          • Carol

            your third sentence should begin with a capital T. i do not normally use capital letters when posting in forums but you were so outspoken about your perfect writing skills, I just had too

          • Rick Armin

            Maybe you should decide on one of those languages for posting.

          • Revillea mcIntire

            Hey! Sergio: You forgotten a few countries. How learned. Hew is prepared for the new world. And. he limits himself to five group[s abut still limits himself in a small box. I could take this and run with it. I am sleeoy!

            Good evening everyone!

          • mary witte

            you illiterate to good night

          • Greg

            All that learning….and your still an idiot….amazing

          • Sergio Romero

            Apparently no learning for you, and (big surprise) youre slightly stupider than Rain Man. BTW: what exactly was the point of using ellipses in that sentence. BWAHAHAHA!!!

          • Sergio Romero

            After reading other posts youve left on this forum, I actually feel really bad about my last comment to you. You clearly are developmentally disabled. Sorry, wasnt aware youre the real deal.

          • Jim Trent

            youre? stupider? Ok, you get the troll poster for this week. Claiming to be a writing major and then keep on using things like that. ‘youre” funny 🙂

          • Sergio Romero

            Hi Jim, youre obviously quite a dipshit. If youd read my other posts, youd know Im typing on a small keyboard on my phone and half the time Im using voice-to-text. So no, I dont use apostrophes much, I dont capitalize a lot of words, I shorten “you” to “u,” etc., etc. And yes, like Shakespeare I like to invent words or commit intentional misusage for various reasons, often comical sarcasm or mockery. Thus, I know when Im using a word such as “stupider.” Thats the difference between me and most other people here. They have no idea when theyre making a mistake. I choose to, because just as we learned in the writing department at SFSU, substance is always more important than form. Moreover, the grammatical and syntactical “rules” of any language are in fact merely guidelines. A true writer knows intuitively when to break them, generally for emphatic purposes. So, now that Ive taken you to school, would you like to point out exactly where my writing is horrendous so I can humiliate you further?

          • JPindiorski

            Sg, take your meds and do like the nice people in the white coats tell you to do and go to bed.

          • Sergio Romero

            JPindickski do you have anything meaningful to say? So far you’re just babbling. You want to try and battle some wits? Cuz you seem like you’re too stupid

          • Jeffrey Lee Pennington

            No question about it, you have more than ample book smarts. But zero commonsense. It is a no win for either side, so if your as smart as you think you are, you would just letter the matter drop and continue on to the next article you would like to anonymously comment about.

          • mary witte

            sorry but your writing skills are not really good, and you waste your time writing about how smart you are when each post just makes you “stupider”,This is an article about a racist black fire fighter try to get a white cop in trouble,and then getting caught in his lie. Its not about your schooling. Get back on track people

          • ron

            your obviously on here just to be a dick so why dont you stfu dumbass

          • Sergio Romero

            Said another way, Im guided primarily by the Chicago Style’s fourth principle: “Simplicity: include only as much information as is necessary to meet the goals of sufficiency, clarity and consistency.” Lemme guess, you have no idea what Im talking about. Go get an education my friend.

          • Jim Trent

            Writing major? Are you serious? Did you get in on some kind of special ed benefit? Reading how you write makes me no longer wonder where the skill of reporters in the past have gone. It seems college is beating it out of them. Your writing is horrendous for someone who supposedly majored in it.

          • jimnbubba

            He doed it cause he be Black

          • ron

            I think it should be dewdit but I may be rong

          • JPindiorski

            SG….LOL…you’re funny. Not very bright but a good laugh.

          • Sergio Romero

            I’m sorry, did someone misinform your fat ass and tell you you’re bright? You’ve been stupid your whole life. Now that magically changed? Get of your loser ass and get a job Pindick-ski.

          • jimnbubba

            And you been ugly all your life and you can’t change that ,your Momma be ugly too

          • jimnbubba

            A socialist educated idiot I would say

          • mary witte

            I’m assuming you failed these classes you word use is as bad as his, why don’t you both grow up and stay with the content of the article

          • Neil Klopsch

            I however do. And she is correct. Visit your local municipal building and according to Penal Code section 832.5, you fill out a standardized complaint form used internally and for private citizens,. You then must state your name and check /initial the box that says…”I do hereby swear and attest that what I am about to report is true and factual”.

            It also states that it is an official document and that knowingly falsifying anything is grounds for prosecution.

            I have filed 6 complaints in California over the years,. I know that form pretty damn well.

          • mary witte

            thanks for getting back on track Neil

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Hey dumbass…. Renee did not claim he signed or made a report. She is correct. You, OTOH, are a dumbass.

            Seriously, do you have anything intelligent to offer the topic? This is the 2nd time I have had to explain the obvious to you.

          • Sergio Romero

            Ok, schools in session, you dipshit nimwit. Im the ONLY person whose offered meaningful comments. Youre making conclusory statements citing no authority. You wanna step up, better bring something, cow.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Have you ever seen a monkey in a cage? Ever poke it with a stick?

            Poke poke.

            Poke.

            Poke.

            Poke poke poke

          • Sergio Romero

            Youre actually showing how stupid you are. I know youve been dumb your whole life, and.you feel insecure, but dont try and make it my problem. Airhead.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Poke poke….

          • Sergio Romero

            “Renee did not claim he signed or made a report.”

            Renee • 3 days ago
            He should be charged for making a false report.

            Oh look who’s wrong. Idiot.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            According to the software and the post YOU clicked reply, you responded to this:

            ~~He didn’t have to sign it. He reported it on camera. He did intentionally lie and his motive was to falsely report racial injustice and promote tensions.~~

            Poke poke.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. Ive come across a lot of dumb people in this thread, but you actually take the cake. Doin a tv interview is not filing a report whatsoever, and could not be the basis for a prosecution for filing a false report. Youre really missing the forest fo the trees. Look whose the monkey. Poke, poke… LOLOL

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Poke poke…. little monkeys who do not understand basic commands gets poked and poked.

            What are you? A lowlife illegal little monkey? English not your primary language? Oh no… clearly it is not.

            Poke poke.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            It’s time for the little monkey to go night night. Just do it in your own country.

            Buh bye.

          • Sergio Romero

            Another one bites the dust. Cut and run because I humuliated you. You joined the many other idiots who claimed Jones could be prosecuted. Proved you wrong on that. Now your silent on issue because you know you were wrong and I was right. Ouch. Must suck to try and show someone up and get clowned in the process. Let me guess – you never eve finished comunity college. I know you must feel really inept, and this experience must make it worse, but dont pick am argument with someone far smarter than you. Now go lick your wounds, and learn from the experience not to embarass yourself anymore. And BTW: my ancestors came here in the late 1600s. Sweetie, Im more American than you could ever dream to be. Night-night.

          • Roger Harris

            (Michelle, he has a superiority complex – let it go, girl). from 09N 02W / Dark Continent Command

          • Michelle Mexicali

            I dropped it with Monkey Boy a couple of days ago. I don’t think he has a superiority complex like most illegals, I think he’s just amazingly childish. Everyone in his world is stupid, ignorant, airhead, or a big dummy. He speaks like a child.

            I think Monkey Boy is a child.

            But com’on… you gotta laugh at his temper tantrums when you poke him with a stick. ;o)

          • Roger Harris

            I humbly agree — anyway, enjoy your week – hope it’s a good one!!

          • Sergio Romero

            You dropped it, because I destroyed everything you attempted to posit. I didnt need to make you look stupid, because you did that for me. “Illegal”? Bitch please, my family has been here for 9 generations. Im more American than you could ever hope to be. Once again, annihilating everything you try to put forth. So walk on community college dropout. BWAHAHAHA!!!

          • Sergio Romero

            And temper tantrums? Im over laughing at you. Youre so ignorant you try to call people illegals. Youre a joke. You have no education, you have no knowledge, you have no insight. You think you make yourself look smart by coming on here and saying ignorant nonsense? You in fact expose yourself for the lamebrain you actually are. Go get an education, cuz youre never gonna get a guy. 😉

          • Sergio Romero

            BTW: Why do you hide behind an animated avatar? I already knew you were a coward, but are you that ugly too?

          • Don Newcomb

            well, she’s not a slimy little troll that has to hide behind the guest tag.

          • Tara Simpson

            No significant evidence that he lied? Did you not watch the videos? He said one thing on camera and the tape proved he lied. How can you say he didn’t?

          • Sergio Romero

            What did he lie about?

          • mary witte

            Keith Jones lied about the entire incident, did any one watch BOTH videos

          • Rick Armin

            Sergio, you come off as being quite racist. You wouldn’t be an illegal, would you?

          • Sergio Romero

            “you come off as being quite racist.”

            Please define racism and then apply that definition to my position and explain how I come off as not only racist but “quite” racist.

            “You wouldn’t be an illegal, would you?”

            Illegal in what sense? I was not aware a person could be illegal. But admittedly I foster American of freedom and liberty, so maybe that notion just doesn’t agree with me.

          • Rick Armin

            Poor Sergio. He likes to dish it out to those who disagree with him, but he can’t take it when he gets a little back. I suggest you make a small investment in a good dictionary. Then you can understand what others are saying. You might even understand what you’re saying.

          • Sergio Romero

            I’d bet I have far more dictionaries than you. I have both abridged and unabridged, several law dictionaries, and, my personal favorite, a copy of the Oxford English Dictionary. Do you know what that is, or how it differs from other dictionaries? I learned that back in college when I studied English Literature. Unfortunately, you missed the point the exercise completely. The point of defining the word “racism” was not for my benefit, but for yours. I’ve actually already provided a definition of the word in this very forum. In essence, it is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. So now that I’ve done the first part of your homework for you, would you like to do the second and more important part yourself, and explain how I espouse racist views. Or are you going to fail at that too?

          • Sergio Romero

            Also, you still havent defined what is an “illegal”.

          • Rick Armin

            There you have it. The embarrassment of riches. You have so many dictionaries you’re totally confused. Why don’t you tell me there is no variation in the definition of racism? Prove yourself to be an even bigger fool than even I thought.

            Studied English Literature? Some of the people you call stupid were probably studying things that are useful in the real world. You “study” things that most people wouldn’t even bother with so that you can put on an air of superiority because you have a high volume of knowledge only useful in academic circles. Typical of “Liberal” Arts.

            Fail??? You failed miserably in any attempt to cover up the racism displayed in your defense of a black man who lied about the actions of white police, and then attacked people who defended the police.

            Next time you call someone stupid, make sure you aren’t looking into a mirror.

          • Sergio Romero

            How did I know you’d be unable to complete a simple task once again. If you take issue with my definition, then provide another from an authoritative source and then apply that definition to my posts to prove that I am “quite racist.” I can believe you are so inept that this is the third time I’ve had to explain to you what to do.

            The difference between you and I is that I’m smart and youre an idiot. I’m a wordsmith and youre ignorant. Ive already learned the precise and accurate definitions of words that you presume to know. In case you failed to notice, youre the one who needs a dictionary, not I.

            Youre so dumb you presumed that I majored in English Lit., but as Ive stated in other posts right here in this discussion, I MINORED in English LIterature. I majored in Criminal Justice, getting an A.A., a B.A. and and M.S. Then I went to law school and got a law degree. Think those might come in use? Hahaha, Moron! I know youve been stupid youre entire life, and now youre frustrated and angry about it, but thats not our problem. Now go play with your crayons.

          • Rick Armin

            I have a philosophy. He who argues with a fool when the fool has proven himself to be a fool, is a fool. I’m not a fool and you’ve left little doubt what you are with your foolish semantic games, so I won’t argue with you.

          • Sergio Romero

            I take no issue with the philosophical underpinnings on which youre decision is made. However, I certainly have not made myself out to be a fool as you have. Defining a word is not a “semantic game.” The understanding and agreement of words’ meanings is the very basis of language. Further, in argumentation, one of the biggest pitfalls is to argue endlessly over whether something or someone is this thing or that thing, without ever agreeing on exactly what “this thing” or “that thing” in fact are. I have not foreclosed your argument. I have simply requested you posit a definition of racism that supports your position that I am “quite racist.” You have failed to do so now on four occasions. Its really not that hard. In the meantime, I will reiterate my position, I am not a racist. Calling into question whether the officer acted in part out of prejudicial and stereotypical thought does not somehow make me a racist. Quite the opposite. It means that I am sensitive to that very issue and willing to address it. Unlike other people who’d rather sweep it under the rug and say simply, “It was within departmental policy.”

          • Sergio Romero

            “You failed miserably in any attempt to cover up the racism displayed in your defense of a black man who lied about the actions of white police”

            Since youre so stupid, Ill spell it out for you. I havent tried to cover anything up. In fact, Ive INVITED you to try and prove how Im “quite racist”, that since thats what you believe. Ive even HELPED you along the way (since youre so dumb you cant figure it out yourself) So quit babbling drivel and get it done, son.

          • Sergio Romero

            Or you can save yourself a good deal of embarrassment and walk away, because all I will do is further humiliate you. Recognize that pattern throughout your life?

          • Greg

            Sergio I would love to meet you in person. Only one of us would walk away.

          • Sergio Romero

            Aw, little monkeyfuck get angry, monkey want to get violent? Go get your banana, shove it up your ass sideways.

          • The ring of truth

            you are an ignorant nothing. You waste our time. He said the accusations on recorded and aired video! He lied! He lied! He lied! You sound like a child who says”I din’t do it, someone else did!” grow the f up!

          • Bobinms

            Just got to be a liberal and could not resist name calling.

          • Rick Armin

            OK! So let’s take it out of the official lines and let the officer file a civil suit against this jerk. He may have been doing the right thing in checking out the open door, but he cast doubt on that when he doesn’t recognize that the officer is doing the same.

          • Revillea mcIntire

            You were there! it is the way he saw it in his mind-eyes.

            I love this!

          • mary witte

            no, it is not the way he saw it in his minds eye, what he saw was a way to cause trouble for the police and make some money off of it, this man taught his kids to lie to back up the lies he told

          • mary witte

            but he did file a report with the police department against the cop and when he got caught he disappeared, did any of you watch both videos,the cops video pretty much says it all

          • Neil Klopsch

            When you file any complaint like that.. there is a little box you have to check that says … I do hear by swear and attest.
            If you do not.. it is not an official complaint and it would never have gotten so far as the Fire chief.

          • Sergio Romero

            I think you’re missing the forest for the trees. The debate was whether or not Jones the fire fighter could be prosecuted for filing a false complaint against the police officer.as I’ve stated several times, that it depends on whether the state statute criminalized that act.

          • Neil Klopsch

            Yes he can. It is considered to be perjury/filing a false claim. I have filled out at least 6 of these forms, when I lived in San Diego. Every one fills out the same form as per Penal Code section 832.5. It has that box that you have to initial and the disclaimer says.. KNOWINGLY using a false statement is grounds for prosecution. If he filed an official report.. He had to have filled that form out, or his Fire Chief NEVER would have gotten involved. . Once he was exposed as liar, that form can and SHOULD be used against him. ZThe minimum penalty in California is not harsh enough.. BUt so that I can back this up

            GOVERNMENT CODE
            SECTION 12650-12656

            Is presented to an officer, employee, or agent of the state or
            of a political subdivision. (This includes municipal officials.. ie fire chiefs)

            (3) “Knowing” and “knowingly” mean that a person, with respect to
            information, does any of the following:
            (A) Has actual knowledge of the information.
            (B) Acts in deliberate ignorance of the truth or falsity of the
            information.
            (C) Acts in reckless disregard of the truth or falsity of the
            information.
            Proof of specific intent to defraud is not required.

            12651. (a) Any person who commits any of the following enumerated
            acts in this subdivision shall have violated this article and shall
            be liable to the state or to the political subdivision for three
            times the amount of damages that the state or political subdivision
            sustains because of the act of that person. A person who commits any
            of the following enumerated acts shall also be liable to the state or
            to the political subdivision for the costs of a civil action brought
            to recover any of those penalties or damages, and shall be liable to
            the state or political subdivision for a civil penalty of not less
            than five thousand five hundred dollars ($5,500) and not more than
            eleven thousand dollars ($11,000) for each violation:

            Here is the Big part…

            (1) Knowingly presents or causes to be presented a false or
            fraudulent claim for approval.

            So while they may not get him for attempted instigation of a race riot (actual law in cali) THey can get him for the wasted money used on the investigation of his claim once it was determined to be fraudulent.

            So.. basically this guy is screwed.
            He can be prosecuted.
            I am not talking out of my ass.
            And I will stop feeding the Troll now as it is obvious, he just cant admit when he is … wrong.

          • Sergio Romero

            832.5 P.C. does not criminalize filing a false complaint against a police officer.

          • Neil Klopsch

            You are the one missing the point. ANY FALSE COMPLAINT, that in turn ends up costing the city/municipality money…. i.e. the cost of the investigation. Are you obtuse or deliberately missing the point.
            And heads up….
            The fireman has been placed on perm leave with no pay
            pending prosecution
            So ya.
            guess what…..
            he is F*****d.

          • Sergio Romero

            Lol. Neil, youre a smart guy, but you cant make a conclusory statement like that. You have to cite law. Whether jones.or anyone similarly situated can be prosecuted depends on law. You havent cited any that say he can

          • Sergio Romero

            “The fireman has been placed on perm leave with no pay pending prosecution” Cite your source please

          • Sergio Romero

            12650 et. seq. is known as the False Claims Act. A “Claim” means any request or demand, whether under a contract
            or otherwise, for money, property, or services. Thats a lawsuit, not an internal police complaint.

          • Jerry

            I read it as the Firefighter by way of complaint, is asking for a formal review of his dealing with the police officer.. Which would make it a request for a service.. as ‘internal affairs’ has to investigate every complaint, no?

            Side note.. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/beating-the-law-by-virtue-of-a-burqa/story-e6freuzi-1226078800517?nk=1b03df64d43a2958a1533419fac1efe2

            Another interesting read… almost the same story, however the person in question was unidentifiable so her conviction was overturned.

            Last note… I dont come on the internet to worry about my spelling or punctuation… but to hear debates from both sides of these stories.. to try and expand the way I look at the world and not become narrow minded… Its sad to me that when I try this.. I see petty name calling.. the winners here are those who can try to understand each other, not brag about winning because they tossed more insults making the other one cry..

          • Sergio Romero

            Thanks for your contribution to the discusion. I laid down in other posts why a person in Cal would not be charged w filing a false complaint against a cop.

            Thanks for the article – very interesting.

            I too would rather have civilized conversation with a noncombative person, so its nice to speak w you.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Because Internal Affairs will not take a complaint unless it is signed and by oath of perjury.

          • Sergio Romero

            Ive already explained in other posts that a citizen cannot be prosecuted for.filing a false complaint against a cop.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Dude, when someone signs under oath of perjury, that is indeed criminal if they knowingly were dishonest. That’s the whole idea behind signing it under oath of perjury. See how that works?

            You are first to run around like a 12 y/o slamming and insulting everyone, telling them they are stupid, idiots… you know, like a spoiled little child. But then when called on your own behaviors you stand back, ball up those fisties, stomp those feeties, and probably stick your little lip out as well.

            Grow up, you are showing what an idiot you are. Don’t you get it? People are pointing and giggling.

          • Sergio Romero

            Ok idiot. California criminalized making a false complaint against police undet penal code148.6, but thats not valid law. Do your research before attempting.to sound like you know anything. Read the statute, Shepardize it. Fuckhead. People come at me w respect, they get respect. You dont come w respect so youre about to get clowned.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Poke. Poke poke….

          • Sergio Romero

            Lol. Exactly. Nothing to say. Nothing intelligent that is. BWAHAHA!

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Poke poke…

          • Sergio Romero

            Lol. Ill run tracks on you all night. Youre not smart. Youre way outta your league. Youve been dumb your entire life. You think thats miraculously going to change tonight? BWAHAHA

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Poke poke…..

          • Sergio Romero

            Haha, love it. As I dismantle your confidence and esteem with wit and articulation, all your little brain can muster is a little four letter word. Youre actually making yourself look stupid for me. HAHAHAHA

          • Sergio Romero

            No more from the niwit? Got smacked around too much? Made to feel stupid? Well, Im sorry about that. Im actually a very civil person. If you read my posts youll see that anyone, ANYONE, who replies to me with respect and civility, no matter how much i might disagree with their opinion, ill treat them cordially and kindly. But you, like so many others, come at me rudely and disrespectfully, calling me names and trying to insult me, because you’re a coward who talks smack behind a computer. For all this talk about how great America is, its people like you who ruin it. Its you who belongs in a third world country. Im glad Mexicans are starting to outnumber people like you. They are actually kind and humble people. Second generations get educated and thrive in everything from business to politics to non-profits. All of which youve never done, including get an education. See America is a great place, and it should be reserved for useful, industrious, and good people. Not people like you. Youre a waste of a valuable citizenship. I dont care if you were born here, people like you should be deported to a place with other losers as stupid as you. HAHAHA

          • Sergio Romero

            Do your homework yet? Figure out why its not illegal yet? I doubt you could even understand the statute, let alone the case law. Why would you pretend to know law when you in fact know nothing?

          • Michelle Mexicali

            Poke poke poke… poke.

          • Sergio Romero

            Penal Code Section 148.6
            In Pena v. Municipal Court (1979) 96 Cal. App. 3d 77, the California Court of Appeals held that a citizen complaint against a policeman did not qualify under the definition of a “report” under Penal Code section 148.5 – filing a false report.

            In response to that holding, in 1995 the California Legislature enacted Penal Code section 148.6, which reads in part: “Every person who files any allegation of misconduct against any peace officer…knowing the allegation to be false, is guilty of a misdemeanor. This statute in effect filled the perceived gap left by Pena, and unambiguously criminalized the filing of a false complaint against a police officer by any citizen, regardless of whether the misconduct rose to the level of criminal activity.

            First Amendment – “Free Speech” Issues
            Laws that regulate the filing of a complaint against a police officer implicate First Amendment Free Speech issues. The First Amendment, made applicable to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment, reads in part, “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech.” U.S. Const. amend. I. The purpose of the Free Speech clause is to foster a marketplace of ideas unsuppressed by government.

            Filing a complaint is one form of criticizing or
            speaking out against. A policeman is a public official. Thus, complaining against a police officer is tantamount to criticizing or speaking out against government or one its officials. The freedom to criticize government is the very backbone of First Amendment Freedom of Expression protection. “[C]riticism of government is at the very center of the constitutionally protected area of free discussion,” Rosenblatt v. Baer, 383 U.S. 75, 85 (1966). (“[T]he
            First Amendment protects a significant amount of verbal criticism and challenge directed at police officers.”); New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), (recognizing the “profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials”).

            However, the protections afforded by the First Amendment are not absolute. The government may regulate certain categories of
            expression consistent with the Constitution. See Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343, 358 (2003). For example, “fighting words,” defamation, and obscenity, are “not within the area of constitutionally protected speech,” R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul, 505 U.S. 377, 383 (1992) (citations omitted), because “such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality,” Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 572 (1942).

            False Complaints
            It is well established that knowing falsehoods are
            constitutionally unprotected because they are “at odds with the premises of democratic government and with the orderly manner in which economic, social, or political change is to be effected.” Garrison, 379 U.S. at 75. Thus, it is clear that the category of speech at issue in this case — knowingly false speech regarding a public official — is not within the area of constitutionally protected speech. As the Supreme Court made clear in its landmark decision in New
            York Times, a public official may recover damages for a defamatory
            falsehood if he or she can prove “that the statement was made with ‘actual malice’ — that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.” 376 U.S. at 279-80. Thus, it is quite clear that the state may prohibit knowingly false speech made in connection with the peace officer complaint process.

            Viewpoint Discrimination
            While certain categories of speech are not constitutionally-protected free speech, this does not mean they are rendered “entirely invisible to the Constitution, so that they may be made the vehicles for content discrimination unrelated to their distinctively proscribable
            content.” R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 383-84. Thus, the government may proscribe libel; but it may not make the further content discrimination of proscribing only libel critical of the government.” R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 384.

            In Chaker v. Crogan, 428 F.3d 1215 C.A.9 (Cal.),2005, the United States Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals was asked to determine whether California Penal Code section 148.6 violated the First Amendment’s core requirement of viewpoint neutrality, even though the law regulated otherwise unprotected speech. (“R.A.V. provides that the First Amendment’s prohibition against viewpoint discrimination applies to both protected and unprotected speech.”). The court called into question California’s choice to prohibit only the knowingly false speech of those citizens who complain of peace officer conduct by pointing out that that a knowingly false assertion
            made by a peace officer or witness in support of a peace officer during the course of a misconduct investigation, was equally “at odds with the premises of democratic government. “A peace officer or witness who lies during an investigation is equally to blame for wasting public resources by interfering with the expeditious resolution of an investigation.” Chaker v. Crogan, 428 F.3d at 1220. The Court noted that the statute’s under-inclusiveness was particularly troublesome because section 148.6 was limited to criticism of government officials — peace officers. “Suspicion that viewpoint discrimination is afoot is at its zenith when the speech restricted is speech critical of the government,” Ridley v. Mass. Bay Transp. Auth., 390 F.3d 65, 86 (1st Cir. 2004).

            The Court found that, while section 148.6 regulated an unprotected category of speech, it singled out certain speech within that category for special opprobrium based on the speaker’s viewpoint. Only knowingly false speech critical of peace officer conduct was subject to prosecution under section 148.6. Knowingly false speech supportive of peace officer conduct was not similarly subject to prosecution. “California has no such authority to license one side of a debate.” Because section 148.6 targeted only knowingly false speech critical of a peace officer, the Court held that the statute impermissibly regulated speech on the basis of a speaker’s
            viewpoint in violation of the First Constitutional Amendment.

            This should end the debate whether the fireman would be charged with filing a false report against the police officer

          • Sergio Romero

            Actually youre wrong. Citizen complaint forms in California are not necessarily signed under penalty of perjury. Have you looked at any? Why do you pretend to know things you know nothing about? Youre a joke. Get some evidence prior to posting anymore drivel.

          • grep

            Did you read the story?

            “He also filed a complaint against the officer, who he said “never apologized” for stopping him.”

            Looks like he did file a formal complaint which I’m pretty sure had to be signed.

          • jimnbubba

            He didn’t intentionally lie? it didn’t happen the way he said it did,that was a race baiting lie , plain to see what you are

          • mary witte

            are you stupid read the entire article,what he did was wrong in all respects and your defending him

          • Congress

            You must be black

          • George Frayer

            Well damn man, On behalf of the lighter skinned so called white ethnicity of a country that literally has almost no actual pure any race I am sorry, Please accept my wifes vagina as retributions and knock up my daughters…… (Being sarcastic)… I find comfort knowing that when they are done with us they will target lighter skinned so called blacks…..

          • Revillea mcIntire

            May be so! But I dont believe they would take it that far as to terminate him and his attorney could say that this is how he saw it and that he was fearful for his life and it is a AA male life is insignificant.And, that with all the chaos doing the confrontation s) he was fearful beyond normal thinking. And he could stick to his statement that this is how he see it.

          • g_man1

            You are right they are not going to charge this scumbag… But not because of the argument that he was fearful for his life or beyond normal thinking.

          • Bud Madgey

            An internal affairs complaint is a police report.

          • Sergio Romero

            No, a police report is a police report. An internal affairs complaint is an internal affairs complaint. Even my seven year old understands this. Lol

          • g_man1

            A police report and an Internal affairs complaint are the same.. It is a report written by the officer investigating the complaint.. Not a bit of difference other than the name…. assault report, robbery report, theft report… all complaints made to the police are reports… just a name given.

          • Sergio Romero

            They are very different, serving two different public policy purposes. The firefighter was not necessarily reporting a crime in his internal affairs complaint , just what he perceived to be misconduct by the officer. Even if he intentionally made a false statement of material fact, whether that is punishable as what is commonly known as “filing a false report” would depend on whether the state statute covering that offense included internal affairs complaint.

          • g_man1

            Again Sergio… You are full of crap… You don’t know what you are talking about…. Let me try this again…

            Filing a false police report can lead to multiple criminal consequences. Many states call this charge “false report to a peace officer.” It is one of the few types of speech that is not constitutionally protected. Lying to a law enforcement officer can result in a criminal conviction.

            Depending on where you live and the extent of the deception, the criminal charge of filing a false police report can either be a misdemeanor or a felony. Cases that cause less inconvenience to police and other authorities tend to be classified as misdemeanors, while people who create greater confusion or harm by filing a false police report may face felony charges.

            What is considered filing a false police report will vary slightly by state, but it’s generally what the name implies—lying to the police. Most people pick up a filing of a false report charge by make affirmative statements that are clearly false. For example, saying that your husband hit you as leverage to be used in a divorce, when he never committed an assault. This isn’t an uncommom example. However, filing a false report can also arise out of material omissions which create a false impression. So…. The officer made me hold our hands up…. FALSE STATEMENT. The officer would not let me show my ID… FALSE Statement…

            Some people are tempted to omit certain facts under the “what they don’t know won’t hurt them” theory of disclosure. Continuing with the above example, if a wife calls the police and reports that her husband hit her with a rock, but intentionally leaves out that the rock was thrown when he ran the lawn mower over a rocky patch while doing the yard, then the omission would be a material omission leading to a false impression. It’s material because it explains the accidental nature of the contact, thereby creating the false impression of an intentional act.

            Fudging on facts or leaving out major details can lead to a false report charge. However, it can also lead to other criminal charges. For example, if a defendant filed a false police report claiming that their vehicle was stolen, when in fact they ditched the vehicle somewhere hoping that it would never be found because they wanted their insurance company to pay off the car note, then the filing of a false report would only be their first of several charges. The defendant could also be charged with insurance fraud or hindering a secured creditor. Other companion felonies include perjury, theft by deception, and securing execution of a document by deception.

            § 37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT
            EMPLOYEE. (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to
            deceive, he knowingly makes a false statement that is material to a
            criminal investigation and makes the statement to:
            (1) a peace officer conducting the investigation; or
            (2) any employee of a law enforcement agency that is
            authorized by the agency to conduct the investigation and that the
            actor knows is conducting the investigation.
            (b) In this section, “law enforcement agency” has the
            meaning assigned by Article 59.01, Code of Criminal Procedure.
            (c) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

            A sworn declaration (also called a sworn statement or a statement under penalty of perjury) is a document that recites facts pertinent to a legal proceeding. It is very similar to an affidavit, but unlike an affidavit, it is not witnessed and sealed[dubious – discuss] by an official such as a notary public. Instead, the person making the declaration signs a separate endorsement paragraph at the end of the document, stating that the declaration is made under penalty of perjury.

            Traditionally, this has required an affidavit: the person must put his testimony into written form and then sign the document in front of an official, such as a notary public or clerk, swearing to the official that the contents of the document are true. The official then endorses the document and generally stamps it with an official seal. Such an affidavit has several advantages over simple signed testimony:

            The person giving the testimony is subject to penalties if he has lied, usually the felony of perjury

            The official is able to see the person, giving some assurance that the person is not suffering under a disqualifying disability

            The official is able to witness the signing of the document and check proof of the affiant’s identity, helping to prevent some forms of outright fraud.

            Where allowed, such an endorsement gives the document the same weight as an affidavit, per 28 U.S.C. § 1746[2] The document is called a sworn declaration or sworn statement instead of an affidavit, and the maker is called a “declarant” rather than an “affiant”, but other than this difference in terminology, the two are treated identically by the court.

            A sworn declaration used in place of an affidavit must be specifically authorized by statute. The federal courts and a few states have general statutes allowing a sworn declaration in any matter where an affidavit can be used

            .

            “I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” – a mantra recited dozens of times a week in TV shows and movies. It’s so familiar that its significance can be overlooked. But, when sworn in a court or other official proceeding, it makes everything said afterward either the truth or perjury.

            Perjury, the crime of lying under oath, is a serious offense because it can derail the basic goal of the justice system—discovering the truth. Even the famous and the powerful have faced the consequences of perjury, which include prosecution (Barry Bonds), prison (Marion Jones), and impeachment (Bill Clinton).

            Historically, perjury was defined as lying while testifying in court. The law now defines the crime to cover not just trials but also many other proceedings, including grand juries, family law court, bail hearings, Congressional committee hearings, and depositions in civil lawsuits. Sworn statements made to governmental agencies such as the Social Security Administration or in financial affidavits (such as loan applications) are also covered.

            My suggestion would be for you to turn the TV off and go back to school…. Go to law school and you might just learn something…. Because right now you don’t know your butt from a hole in the ground.

          • Sergio Romero

            G_man1,I cant tell whether youre developmentally disabled, or just really stupid. Its great you remember how to cut and paste from kindergarten, but you did not provide me a sinlge bit of information i did not already know. I know what filing a false report is, and what the essential elements of it are, as well as perjury. Your little brain has not been able to grasp that there are several gaps in knowledge of the facts: you dont know who.Jones filed his complaint to specifically, you dont known if the type of complaint he filed is covered by the state statute criminalizing the filing of a false police report (state, not federal, moron). Further you dont know what he did or didnt say in his complaint, youre going off a news report. Assuming, without concluding that he did claim those things, and he was wrong, a prosecutor still could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he made them knowing they were false. So the crime of filing a false police report would get no conviction. I already have a law degree. What are your response is based on? (Other than your frustration at people who are smarter than you)

          • Guest

            Dude seriously, you own and run a window cleaning business. Please stop trying to pass yourself off as a lawyer.

          • Sergio Romero

            Yes, ive owned and operated my window cleaning busines since 1999. And Ive never said what i do day-to-day, and i never claimed i was an atty. I said i have a law degree. Please try not to be a dipship.

          • Guest

            Your law degree clearly comes from Angola. Your arguments carry all the weight of helium. You logic is almost as consistent as a 2 year old. You can not help but call people stupid like a five year old who discovered a new word. You have sat here and trolled this forum with no real input. Multiple times you claim to have destroyed people but the only thing you have ever posted is opinion. Poorly formed opinion at that. If you truely did graduate from a school I am pretty sure your professor merely gave you a passing grade so he did not have to listen to your drivel any more. I will now predict your response to me… Insult my intelligence, highlight how smart you are, mention your law degree, babble some about how no one can compete with you, mention facts you supposedly posted previously, insult my intelligence again. You sir are pathetic, you are a troll, and a complete was of time. Go kiss what I assume is your grandchild and pray with everything you have that they do not turn out as pathetic as you have, you total waste of human flesh.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. I love it people like you with no knowledge, no.credentials, no nothing, get so frustrated at having nothing. All arguments are.sound, based.on.current applicable law. You cant retort one bit except to make conclusory statements about me. Pathetic. Kiss my child? So whose trolling? Troll! Why are you so obsessed with me to look at my other profiles? Lol. Angry. Angry you are so dumb and have been your whole life. Tey not to lose it. You have taken.your meds,right? LOLOLOL!!!!

          • Guest

            What argument? You haven’t made a coherent argument in the last 24 hours. Seriously, all you have said is you’re stupid, I’m smart, see look I have a law degree to prove it. See how awesome I am, your stupid.

            No facts, no citations, no nothing. You have proved absolutely nadda zip zilch.

            “All arguments are.sound, based.on.current applicable law.”

            “g_man, you really shoukd not be posting in public forums. Ive slapped
            you around, humuliated you by your wikipedia answers, ive even.took pity
            and helped you by directing you to the right answer. The facts are all
            Ive used. Youve misquoted and.misinterpreted law and fact. You really
            need a new hobby. Fisher-Price shape blocks would be perfect”

            nope no facts but this is a stereotypical response from you. I would post more quotes from you but over 120 posts of drivel is more than I feel like posting.

            As to angry? Nah I’m totally chill, I deal with life and death all day, disassembling an idiot like you is relaxation.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. Funny, you havent had anything meaningful to say. I will run circles around you in law all day. You know it. You also know.youre dumb because you’ve been that way your whole life.I’m sorry, but that’s not my problem.

          • Guest

            1. I never claimed to hold a law degree

            2. You are correct I haven’t said much meaningful, I’ve been mimicking your posts.

            3. If you are going to try and match wits with me, please, take longer to come up with better insults, you dumb is anemic at best.

            4. Seriously please take longer think harder, use a thesaurus a dictionary, maybe go buy a book of insults. I have heard better come backs from 80 yr old Alzheimer Pt gorked on Fentanyl.

            5. I might be afraid of you “running circles around” me in law if if you actually ever got around to making an argument instead of talking about how awesome you and your law degree is.

            Res Ipsa Loquitur, prove your not all hot air and bullshit.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. I could say the same about you. You certainly do not come off as particularly loquacious. Your insults are quite childish as.well. i dont take much time to write these, i have many to respond to.and so they from the hip. res ipsa locquitor from memory, is a way of proving breach of.duty in.a.negligence action. Its latin for something like it doest usually.happen. it has several elements, that when proved show that the.person in.custody or.control of.the.thing.or situation caused the harm with negligent fault. Off.the top.of.my head, some.elements.includes showing.that the defenedant had sole custody.or care of the thing or person injured, and that in the ordinary course of things, they harm shouldnt have occurred, implying some negligence on the part of the defendant.

          • Guest

            Your memory is flawed like the rest of you.

            Res Ipsa Loquitur- the things speaks for itself. Used usually in medical torts but not always. Its used when the problem is so obvious it speaks for itself. Such as cutting off the wrong leg or leaving a surgical instrument in a patient. It changes the duty of proof to the defendant.

            Circle? circles? circles anyone? Nope, game set match go home knowing you got owned by a person “like you with no knowledge, no.credentials, no nothing, get so frustrated at having nothing.”

            I’m done with you now.

          • Sergio Romero

            Lol! You researched your answer sand mine was from memory from first year torts class 4 years ago. And I was actually right about every single thing except what it stood for in Latin which is actually totally irrelevant. what example in Latin has nothing to do with prosecuting a negligence case. See that’s the thing about people like you, you’re so stupid you can’t even recognize intelligence. I would love to see you try and remember everything I remembered.

          • Guest

            Silly fool, I did it from memory too. See funny thing is in medicine that little saying means a lot.

            That being said you DIDN”t get it all right.

            “that when proved show that the.person in.custody or.control of.the.thing.or situation caused the harm with negligent fault.”

            The whole point of it is the offense is so egregious there is no need to prove anything for negligence. Instead the burden of proof is now on the defendant to prove they DIDN’T do harm. It is a critical difference and to blow it off as close shows why you wash windows instead of practice law.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. Dont know how to tell you this, but youre wrong on several counts. It does prove two of the four elements of negligence, but not the other two. you’re slightly familiar with that theory of negligence because you dealt with it in your work. we spent a total of three days on it in torts class. But I still remembered all that and I still understand it better than you do. But words isn’t even my area of law. Everything you’re saying means nothing. That’s literally how dumb you are. & I don’t wash windows, i own a window cleaning business.

          • Guest

            the 4 elements of negligence are

            1 duty to care
            2 breach of duty
            3 Causation
            4 damages

            In fact using res ipsa loquitur is a means to establish all of the above.The problem is so obvious it falls upon the defendant to prove it wasn’t his fault.

            Example: Sue wakes up from surgery to have her left foot amputated. Instead her left arm has been amputated. It is so obvious that negligence has occurred the burden of proof is now on the doctor to prove he didn’t commit a negligent act.

            If I am a person with no education, how does it make you feel to be owned by me in a field you profess to be an expert in. Have a nice day, Loser.

          • Sergio Romero

            Youre right about the 4 elements of negligence. You wrong about it proving all four. You surmised that on your own and you came up short: “a doctrine that states that the elements of duty of care and breach can sometimes be inferred from the very nature of an accident” ONLY DUTY OF CARE AND BREACH. Hahaha you got owned sucker. Your own profession and you didn’t even know. Time to look for a new job.now I know why you’re logged in as guest.

          • Guest

            What comic book did you get your degree out of? Duty and care can be inferred, damage and cause are obvious and don’t need to be inferred as they are proven for all to see. You seriously need to go back to school and get a refund you payed way to much for your law degree.

          • Sergio Romero

            “damage and cause are obvious and don’t need to be inferred as they are proven for all to see.” LOL! You are literally speaking legal nonsense right now. I already told you res ipsa loquitur is a way of proving duty and breach, but not causation or harm. Go do some research before responding. You have no idea what youre talking about and its comical.

          • Guest

            Sad thing is you went to bed thinking you were right.

            from the very document you provided, which was your first attempt at actually proving anything congratulations in that giant step.

            “Since juries incline heavily towards plaintiffs the net practical effect of this doctrine is to shift the substantive burden of loss from accidents of these types from the plaintive to the defendant.”

            My statement was “Instead the burden of proof is now on the defendant to prove they DIDN’T do harm. It is a critical difference”

            you neglected that important detail more than once.

          • Sergio Romero

            Wtf are you talking about? I never quoted that. look you need to give up. I’ve already proved that you were wrong and that I was right. Now you’re just grasping for straws.

          • Sergio Romero

            “the 4 elements of negligence are

            1 duty to care
            2 breach of duty
            3 Causation
            4 damages

            In fact using res ipsa loquitur is a means to establish all of the above.”

            Oops. Now someones trying to change their narrative. Look before you leap and stick to medicine – youd never make it through law school! BWAHAHAHA!!!

          • Sergio Romero

            Youre getting your ass kicked in over here and its taking you a long time to reply. Tryin to do more research? Hahha. If youre trying to prove me wrong, its not gonna happen. And you dont even know my specialty and practice area of law. Hahaha. Sorry sweetie, but you stepped into wrong ring. Now go play with your mascara and check in on your dating website. BWAHAHAHA!!!

          • Sergio Romero
          • Sergio Romero

            Well you got tracks ran all over you tonight, just like i told you you would. I actually do think youre smart, you just misstepped. One of the first things you learn about cross-examination is if you have an expert witness on the stand, you NEVER try and discredit them by challenging their knowledge of their subject matter. Its a pitfall and you will end up looking stupid in front of the jury. Because the very definition of an expert is someone who knows the subject better than anyone else, save for other experts. I couldve tried to voir dire you on what services a paramedic can and cannot perform under various circumstances in your state, but i wouldve lost. Even if you gave a wrong answer, i wouldnt have been able to nail you down. Youd always find a way out. In any case, its been nice talking to you. Youre def more of a challenge than most. Good nite.

          • Sergio Romero

            “In most tort cases, the injured plaintiff must prove four things:
            (1) that the defendant had a duty of care toward the plaintiff;
            (2) that the defendant breached that duty, usually by acting negligently or carelessly;
            (3) that the injury would not have happened but for the breach; and
            (4) that the plaintiff suffered damages of some kind, such as physical injury or loss of property.
            In a res ipsa loquitur situation, however, the court assumes that a duty of care exists and that the defendant breached it. Therefore, the plaintiff can skip over proving parts 1 and 2, and focus on proving that the defendant’s negligence caused his injury and that he suffered damages as a result…”

            Do i hear you saying “uncle” yet, monkeytard? HAHAHAHA

          • Sergio Romero

            And why arw you hiding as Guest? Lemme guess youre also a nobody with no education…

          • Guest

            I know all kinds of other things too, like how to do drug calculations, what the difference between a Nurse and a PA is legally. What allows a Paramedic to operate in the field. What the signs of a cerebral hemorrhage are. How to deliver a baby. The difference between Morphine and Dilaudid and why it needs to be know. How to perform ultrasound. I also know when you are done… you can try to wash it anyway you want, you were beaten. Night night now

          • Sergio Romero

            You just got clowned in your last comment. Time to give it up. nite nite

          • Sergio Romero

            Lets see what you know about res judicata, or here, maybe you can answer the debate gman and I were having. Can the firefighter be prosecuted criminally for filing a false complaint against the police officer? come on genius, you can do it. I know you can!!

          • Sergio Romero

            “The whole point of it is the offense is so egregious there is no need to prove anything for negligence”

            “Latin for “the thing speaks for itself,” a doctrine of law that one is presumed to be NEGLIGENT if he/she/it had exclusive control of whatever caused the injury”

            Oops another screw up. Lol. Showing you have only superficial understanding of the cause of action. Haha youre making this easy.

          • Sergio Romero

            ah I see another Wikipedia scholar. Problem is you didn’t understand the essential elements or what it even really was, a way to prove breach of duty in a negligence case. so you just got circles ran around you. Ouch

          • Sergio Romero

            moreover, what idiots like you don’t understand is law school is not about memory at all. It’s about legal reasoning, thinking like a lawyer, the application of law to factual patterns. it is actually outstanding that I remembered all that I did. You need to give it up. You are way out of your league.

          • Sergio Romero

            “Youre memory is flawed.” Lol you dipshit. Everyone’s memory is flawed. That’s why the study of law is not based on memory. Go find somebody in your own intelligence bracket to argue with, cuz all I’m going to do is kick you around

          • Sergio Romero

            If you want to know if Im.telling the truth, you can always look me up. Not hard

          • Sergio Romero

            There’s been much debate as to whether the firefighter could be prosecuted for filing a false complaint against the police officer, with many people saying he could, and basically only myself expressing doubt. My prediction was “no,” primarily because I felt that a complaint against a peace officer was not, and should not, be treated the same as a police report. I asserted that a police report and a citizen complaint served two very different policy purposes. Of course, many people disagreed and asserted that a complaint against a policeman was effectively equivalent to a police report. Most people’s conclusions were nothing more than illogical drivel, lacking any real research and citing no authority. In any case, the question was left open whether a citizen’s complaint against a police officer could be considered a police report. I repeatedly stated that, even if the fireman did in fact intentionally make false allegations against the cop, whether he could be criminally charged for the offense commonly known as “filing a false report,” would depend upon whether the state statute prohibiting that conduct included complaints against police.

            The incident between the fireman and the cop occurred in Oakland, California. Both persons involved are California residents, and the police agency is that of a California municipal corporation. Thus, California law governs. 

            California criminalizes the filing of a false report under Penal Code section 148.5, which reads in part: “Every person who reports to any peace officer…that a felony or misdemeanor has been committed, knowing the report to be false, is guilty of a misdemeanor.”

            In the case of Pena v. Municipal Court, Gloria Pena was arrested by Tulare police for public intoxication and disturbing the peace. Following her arrest, Pena filed a complaint with the chief of police, alleging that police had unjustly placed her under arrest and had used excessive force in effecting the arrest. The police department’s investigation of Pena’s grievance concluded there was no basis for the complaint. Pena was arrested and charged with violating Penal Code section 148.5 – filing a false report. Pena appealed to the California Court of Appeals, arguing that SECTION 148.5 DID NOT INCLUDE A CITIZEN’S COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICEMAN UNDER THE DEFINITION OF A “REPORT” WITHIN THAT SECTION. The court held that the Legislature did not intend for citizens’ complaints of police misconduct to be considered as a report of a criminal offense under Penal Code section 148.5.

            “The importance of providing channels to assure “utmost freedom of communication between citizens and public authorities whose responsibility is to investigate wrongdoing” requires that any doubts should be resolved in favor of finding the communication to be
            privileged.” 

            As I predicted, a citizen’s complaint IS NOT a police report for purposes of a prosecution of filing a false report.

          • Sergio Romero

            In response to that holding, in 1995 the California Legislature enacted Penal Code section 148.6, which reads in part: “Every person who files any allegation of misconduct against any peace officer…knowing the allegation to be false, is guilty of a misdemeanor. This statute in effect filled the perceived gap left by Pena, and unambiguously criminalized the filing of a false complaint against a police officer by any citizen, regardless of whether the misconduct rose to the level of criminal activity.

            First Amendment – “Free Speech” Issues
            Laws that regulate the filing of a complaint against a police officer implicate First Amendment Free Speech issues. The First Amendment, made applicable to the States through the Fourteenth Amendment, reads in part, “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech.” U.S. Const. amend. I. The purpose of the Free Speech clause is to foster a marketplace of ideas unsuppressed by government.

            Filing a complaint is one form of criticizing or
            speaking out against. A policeman is a public official. Thus, complaining against a police officer is tantamount to criticizing or speaking out against government or one its officials. The freedom to criticize government is the very backbone of First Amendment Freedom of Expression protection. “[C]riticism of government is at the very center of the constitutionally protected area of free discussion,” Rosenblatt v. Baer, 383 U.S. 75, 85 (1966). (“[T]he
            First Amendment protects a significant amount of verbal criticism and challenge directed at police officers.”); New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), (recognizing the “profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials”).

            However, the protections afforded by the First Amendment are not absolute. The government may regulate certain categories of
            expression consistent with the Constitution. See Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343, 358 (2003). For example, “fighting words,” defamation, and obscenity, are “not within the area of constitutionally protected speech,” R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul, 505 U.S. 377, 383 (1992) (citations omitted), because “such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality,” Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 572 (1942).

            False Complaints
            It is well established that knowing falsehoods are
            constitutionally unprotected because they are “at odds with the premises of democratic government and with the orderly manner in which economic, social, or political change is to be effected.” Garrison, 379 U.S. at 75. Thus, it is clear that the category of speech at issue in this case — knowingly false speech regarding a public official — is not within the area of constitutionally protected speech. As the Supreme Court made clear in its landmark decision in New
            York Times, a public official may recover damages for a defamatory
            falsehood if he or she can prove “that the statement was made with ‘actual malice’ — that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.” 376 U.S. at 279-80. Thus, it is quite clear that the state may prohibit knowingly false speech made in connection with the peace officer complaint process.

            Viewpoint Discrimination
            While certain categories of speech are not constitutionally-protected free speech, this does not mean they are rendered “entirely invisible to the Constitution, so that they may be made the vehicles for content discrimination unrelated to their distinctively proscribable
            content.” R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 383-84. Thus, the government may proscribe libel; but it may not make the further content discrimination of proscribing only libel critical of the government.” R.A.V., 505 U.S. at 384.

            In Chaker v. Crogan, 428 F.3d 1215 C.A.9 (Cal.),2005, the United States Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals was asked to determine whether California Penal Code section 148.6 violated the First Amendment’s core requirement of viewpoint neutrality, even though the law regulated otherwise unprotected speech. (“R.A.V. provides that the First Amendment’s prohibition against viewpoint discrimination applies to both protected and unprotected speech.”). The court called into question California’s choice to prohibit only the knowingly false speech of those citizens who complain of peace officer conduct by pointing out that that a knowingly false assertion
            made by a peace officer or witness in support of a peace officer during the course of a misconduct investigation, was equally “at odds with the premises of democratic government. “A peace officer or witness who lies during an investigation is equally to blame for wasting public resources by interfering with the expeditious resolution of an investigation.” Chaker v. Crogan, 428 F.3d at 1220. The Court noted that the statute’s under-inclusiveness was particularly troublesome because section 148.6 was limited to criticism of government officials — peace officers. “Suspicion that viewpoint discrimination is afoot is at its zenith when the speech restricted is speech critical of the government,” Ridley v. Mass. Bay Transp. Auth., 390 F.3d 65, 86 (1st Cir. 2004).

            The Court found that, while section 148.6 regulated an unprotected category of speech, it singled out certain speech within that category for special opprobrium based on the speaker’s viewpoint. Only knowingly false speech critical of peace officer conduct was subject to prosecution under section 148.6. Knowingly false speech supportive of peace officer conduct was not similarly subject to prosecution. “California has no such authority to license one side of a debate.” Because section 148.6 targeted only knowingly false speech critical of a peace officer, the Court held that the statute impermissibly regulated speech on the basis of a speaker’s
            viewpoint in violation of the First Constitutional Amendment.

            This should end the debate whether the fireman would be charged with filing a false report against the police officer

          • Sergio Romero

            see, the thing about people like you is that you’re so stupid that logical coherent arguments go right over your head. You don’t even spot them. See you don’t know the law so you can’t possibly identify what is a valid argument.all you can do is sit there and say that doesn’t make any sense. In fact it does make sense, but it makes so much sense you don’t understand it. Again because you’re stupid. come on, you know you’re a moron.

          • Sergio Romero

            LOL. YOU JUST COPIED AND PASTED. FROM WIKIPEDIA! HAHAHAHA! You cant even frame the specific legal issue, let alone answer it with any degree of accuracy or certainty. Turn your computer off before you hurt yourself. Lol!

          • g_man1

            Sergio… You don’t have any facts… darn those pesky facts… I tell you what you frootloop dingus… Why don’t you, give me some facts…? Why don’t you give me some case law on this? Why don’t you tell me what the law is? You have this big law degree, but you sure can’t articulate or prove your argument. You have yet to give one valid fact to support your argument. You don’t have any valid facts other than you are a frootloop dingus democrat, that supports liars…
            Way to go Sergio… You are the reason America is in the crapper.

          • Sergio Romero

            g_man1, give it up, your way out of your league. In your last comment you copied and pasted a bunch of stuff from Wikipedia, all of which was interesting, but none of it on..you keep talking about the facts, overlooking that the facts (as they were reported) are all I have used. you’re the person using Wikipedia. Lol! You still haven’t been able to frame the specific legal issue, research it, and come to a sound conclusion. the thing with people like you is you are so stupid you can’t even recognize a right answer when it’s given to you. I’ve even helped you out along the way, but you still can’t dont get it. sadly, you are the state of affairs in America.

          • g_man1

            Sergio… You are a frootloop dingus… I have asked you for facts. You cannot give me one fact. You are not an attorney, you couldn’t pass the bar exam to become an attorney. You don’t have a clue. You cannot give me one fact. I have given you several facts… I have given you the law and you still don’t get it. You are a dumb azz….
            You say I have not been able to frame the specific legal issue…. Then why don’t you do that for me… You can’t frame one legal issue, nor a sentence.
            You have not given one fact other than a retarded position that you have a law degree… You say that I am so stupid that I can’t recognize a right answer… You really are a frootloop dingus…. You have yet to answer any question that I asked…. You have not given me one legal standing. You have not given me one fact as they have been reported….. You have not given anyone anything other than a bunch of B.S. that you have a law degree….

            I think you are a fool and most likely you don’t even have a law degree….

          • Sergio Romero

            g_man, you really shoukd not be posting in public forums. Ive slapped you around, humuliated you by your wikipedia answers, ive even.took pity and helped you by directing you to the right answer. The facts are all Ive used. Youve misquoted and.misinterpreted law and fact. You really need a new hobby. Fisher-Price shape blocks would be perfect

          • g_man1

            Sergio…. We have a saying…. You can’t fix stupid… You are full on stupid… You have not slapped anyone around.. You are a failure an EPIC FAILURE.
            You cannot articulate or provide one fact. I have given you the law. I have given you the facts. You still want to argue for this turd bag POS. He lied, his kids lied.. His children should be ashamed of their father for being a coward and liar. Instead he is teaching his children to lie…. Cry racism and you can get paid… This is very telling of what kind of a human, this POS is. It is very telling of what kind of a frootloop dingus you are.
            You have failed to do anything other than cry Wikipedia and that you have a law degree….
            You are a joke…. Keep watching TV and pretending you know something about the criminal justice system
            God Bless you…

          • Sergio Romero

            Wow, youre really losing it. Hahaha. Try to keep it together. Ill help you along. To close the debate you and i were engaged in, the FIRST specific legal issue that must be issued is, could Jones prosecuted at all for filing a false complaint against the police officer. What is existing law as applied to the facts of this case. I know.you can do it buddy. Were all pulling for you.

          • g_man1

            You tell me Sergio… You claim to have a law degree.. But for some reason you cannot articulate or provide any legal standing or facts to the case. I think you are a fraud. You don’t have a law degree… If you do you should try and get your money back. OMG you are a dumb libtard… Just like this POS liar of a fire fighter… You are a fraud and liar… You don’t have a law degree.
            you are a frootloop libtard dingus…

          • Sergio Romero

            Man, i think your brain is getting.ready to pop. Calm down, take a deep breath buddy. And your misusing the term “legal standing.” You should quit trying to engage in intellectual conversations. Youre gonna hurt yourself. Lol

          • g_man1

            Sergio… I have read all of your post… You have not said anything intellectual… You are about as dumb as a box of rocks. You certainly are not educated. I think it is time for you to go see the men in the white coats…..

          • Sergio Romero

            I lo e this part, where the dumb guy gets frustrated and angry at being outsmarted, and starts name calling and grasping for straws. Hahaha!

          • g_man1

            Sergio… You have been grasping for straws from the very first post you made.
            You are not smart, you are not slick… You are a frootloop dingus.

          • Sergio Romero

            but out of pity, I’m still willing to help you answer the question. Look, start here, is it a civil or criminal matter? Then ask yourself is it federal or state law that applies? Start with those two and then I’ll guide you along a little bit further.

          • g_man1

            Your done Sergio… He can be charged both civilly and criminally.. You are not a law student and you don’t have a law degree. You don’t know your azz from a hole in the ground.
            A complainant should be aware that a peace officer, under provisions of 47.5 of the California Civil Code, may bring civil action against an individual who knowingly makes a false personnel complaint.

            In 1996, the California legislature added section 148.6 to the Penal Code. That section makes it a misdemeanor for a person to file an allegation of misconduct against a peace officer if the person knows that the report is false. In addition, the law enforcement agency who accepts an allegation of misconduct against a police officer shall require the complainant to read and sign the following advisory statement:

            YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER FOR ANY IMPROPER POLICE CONDUCT. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THIS AGENCY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE TO INVESTIGATE CITIZENS’ COMPLAINTS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROCEDURE. THIS AGENCY MAY FIND AFTER INVESTIGATION THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT ACTION ON YOUR COMPLAINT; EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT AND HAVE IT INVESTIGATED IF YOU BELIEVE AN OFFICER BEHAVED IMPROPERLY. CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ANY REPORTS OR FINDINGS RELATING TO COMPLAINTS MUST BE RETAINED BY THIS AGENCY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT THAT YOU KNOW TO BE FALSE. IF YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER KNOWING THAT IT IS FALSE, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

            There is no more argument…. The guy is a POS liar. He is a race baiter. He thought he would cash in on the Ferguson case…. It just didn’t work out for him, thanks to the fact the officer had a body camera.

          • Sergio Romero

            So, let me help.you out once again. If you think Jones.lied, could he be prosecuted?

          • g_man1

            Yes… He can be prosecuted….. Will they prosecute him… NO…. No they will not prosecute him. They should prosecute but they will not, because they do not want Al Sharpton and all the other thugs descending upon their town and rioting.
            I predict that he will be fired from the fire department. He has lost all creditability. He is a liar and the people that work with him will not respect him or want to work with him.

            So how are you helping me once again? You have not answered one question that I have asked. You have failed articulate or provide on fact to support your failed argument… You keep telling everyone that you have a law degree, but can’t articulate a valid argument to save your life.

            What law school did you go to? Are you a lawyer? if so what is your Bar Card #?

            God bless you… You frootloop dingus.

          • Sergio Romero

            Gosh, youre so dumb, you should be a research subject by social scientists. Even with help you have no idea how to address a legal question. “Yes” is your answer. Lol. Dont ever even attempt a legal class. Come on brother, im rooting for you here. Try to compose a complete answer based on applicale law.

          • g_man1

            Sergio…. You are the dumb one…. You have not and most likely are not smart enough to answer the questions that have been asked of you.
            Why don’t you answer the questions… Let me answer them for you…. You are a fraud. You do not have a law degree. You are just some libtard that has an opinion on something that is far beyond your education level.

            You are frootloop libtard democrat dingus..
            God Bless you…

          • Sergio Romero

            We were arguing over my credentials, we were debating whether Jones,.or anyone similarly situated,.could be prosecuted for filing a complaint against the officer. You still havent composed a thorough, cogent answer. This is taking way too long.

          • g_man1

            Sergio…. You are a fraud… You don’t have a law degree. You were asked for facts about the case and you could not provide them. You were asked several questions and could not answer, not one of them.

            You want to defend a liar. The POS lied and you try to defend him. It is very telling.. It tells everyone that you are not very bright. You are very typical of someone that thinks they are educated on the subject. But in reality you are just the typical person that when they don’t have any facts. They claim racism or change the argument or simply dodge the question that are asked…. You have dodge every question that I have asked you. You don’t know the facts. You don’t know the law and you are a joke Sergio..
            Everyone that is discussing this topic is laughing at you. Everyone here knows you are a joke.

            Step away from the computer, turn it off before you hurt yourself… You frootloop dingus…

            You just can’t fix stupid…. and you are the king of stupid..

          • Sergio Romero

            Haha, more meltdown from.the frustrated guy. All i did was use the facts of the case. I annihilated every thing you tried to throw my way. You still havent been able to answer the basic legal question we were debating. Your comments are pathetic. If anyone doesnt beelieve my credentials, a little research will.verify who i am. I dont need to prove anything. What people like you dont understand is, in the end degrees dont matter. Its the ability to reason logically, perform research, and articulate effectively. You have failed at all of these.

          • g_man1

            Sergio.. LOL…. You are killing me. You have not annihilated anything. You are a joke.. There is no debate. You lost the debate so long ago.. You lost so long ago, and it is so sad that you lost the argument and still believe you are even still in the argument.

            You say degrees don’t matter… You don’t have a degree. You say your credentials… What credentials? I asked you for your credentials and you dodged the question. You are a liar.. Just like the fire fighter. You have no credibility and everyone is laughing at you. You are a joke you frootloop dingus ..

            You are living in a fantasy world….

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. Now i KNOW youre just messin with me, no ones that stupid. Cmon, quit playin around and try and answer the basic debate we had yesterday: can Jones.be prosecuted if he filed a false complaint against the officer. You can.do it. Dont get frustratrd or intimidated because i have several criminal justice degrees and JD and.you never even finished.community college. Dont be insecure. Just focus. You can do it!

          • Sergio Romero

            Now im sure your parents.dont want you to have another episode. And i dont want to humuliate u any further. I mean your reputation and credibility are sort of on the line here brother. People see me calling u out and challenging u, and u can do is reposond with conclusory statements, like “i won the argument.” People arent gonna buy that, theyre too smart. Now if.u need help,.just let me know and i can help u out, but dont embarass yurseld brother. Or u can just walk away and not get verbally smacked around and clowned anymore. Or you keep getting kicked around i guess. God youre a glutton for punishment. Lol

          • g_man1

            Sergio… I find it highly unlikely that you have several degrees, nor even one degree… I find it hard to believe that you graduated from a high school. You can’t construct a proper sentence. You can’t spell, even though the computer has spell check. You claim that you are typing on a small keyboard or it is your phone… Those are nothing more than excuses… I have been typing on my phone all day, while I was getting ready to testify in court.

            I have never told you what my background, education, training or work experience is…. But I can guarantee you, that I am so far ahead of you, by leaps and bounds. I have never told you what my wife does for a job… But lets just say she makes decisions on cases of right and wrong every day.

            You do not intimidate or frustrate me one bit. I deal with fools like you on a daily basis. I don’t even know why I am arguing with you, other than I was board while waiting my turn to testify.

            I truly feel sorry for you… You just can’t help yourself. You are a total frootloop dingus.

            God Bless you…

          • Sergio Romero

            hahaha, man, you are pathetic. Now you’re pretending to be a peace officer. And pretending like your wife is a judge. Haha you’ve gone too far this time. Like a judge would ever give you the time of day. you’re too stupid. you still can’t even answer the basic legal question I asked you hours and hours ago.and now pretending to be something you’re not too dry and gain credibility on this site. Man thats a new low brother.

          • Sergio Romero

            I certainly hope you are testifying as a lay witness who was not directly involved in the incident from which the subject matter of the action arose. You’re too stupid to have any meaningful part of any legal action. you still haven’t been able to answer the simple question I asked you hours ago. I dearly hope you’re joking about testifying. Please don’t tell me you have any position in government. We have problems in this country.

          • g_man1

            Sergio.. you are a piece of work… You have not answered any question that I have asked you. You can’t construct a proper sentence. You don’t have any facts and you certainly don’t have any valid argument.
            You are poorly educated and you don’t have a degree. You are most likely a young man that has struggled with being slow to learn. You really need to go back to school and obtain a proper education.
            I have read over every post that you have made. Everyone is laughing at you and you are either to dumb or to stupid to know that people are embarrassed for you. I feel sorry for you son… You need help.

            I am not going to tell you what I do for a living….. You can make the conclusions that you want on what my wife and I do for a living. I am not going to tell you.
            You are the problem with this country. You are a frootloop dingus..

          • Sergio Romero

            how pathetic that you can’t even be creative with your insults. And how ironic that you were accusing me of the very thing for which you are culpable. if anyone is laughing at my post, it’s because they’re idiots and know nothing about law and argumentation. Mostly, people are laughing at you because you can’t even answer the simple basic legal question I asked you hours ago. Can Jones be prosecuted for filing a false complaint against the police officer? You still can’t answer it. You can’t answer it because you don’t understand law, you couldn’t possibly begin to research let alone answer the question. You’ve proved that. Now you resorted to pretending like you’re acop and your wife is a judge, or whatever you are trying to insinuate. You’re nothing. You’re nobody. You’re too dumb. you pretend to be some kind of official, but no one can verify it, because you’re a coward and won’t say who you really are. There’s no hiding with me. That’s mine full name, you see it right there. Quit being an idiot and do some research and you’ll see Who I am and where I graduated from. See unlike you, I’m not a coward, & I don’t hide. Here’s my prediction, you don’t have a wife at all, you don’t have a life at all. You’re just a loser who’s spews useless garbage on right wing sites. I’m the real deal, I am exactly who I say I am. And if you think that I can’t write, I’ll send you some of my legal writing. but you wouldn’t understand it, it’s above your level of reading comprehension.

          • g_man1

            Sergio… You are a frootloop dingus… I answered your legal question many hours ago… Although you have failed to answer my questions. You have lost your temper and everyone is laughing at you. You are a failure and i would laugh at you if it weren’t so sad…

            You say you are not a coward like me… I think you are a big old titty baby of a coward. You are not educated, you don’t have a degree. You are a liar…. You are a epic failure of a joke. You are most likely are a little boy who would like to be a man. You have a lot of growing up to do.
            You need to go back to school and get you an education.

            Good luck to you and God Bless you..

          • Sergio Romero

            Let me just expose what are doing, though it is quite obvious. You are trying to get out of answering the basic question which was at the center of our debate. You are trying to get out of it by: 1) saying you already answered it (which you did not) 2) claiming i never answered your questions (though the ones clearly asked were clearly answered), and 3) trying to discredit me by calling me childish names. You my friend, are so pathetic and inept. One can easily look up who I am online, which Im sure youve already done. Now youre frustrated that youre wrong about yet another thing. Now you know Im better educated, i am who i say i am. You realize im smarter than you, and youre going to lose. So youre on the run. So last chance to save face for yourself, can Jones be prosecuted for filing a false complaint against the police officer? If you don’t answer right now, ill answer it for you, and youll look all the more stupid.

          • g_man1

            Sergio, you never answered any of my questions. You need mental help… You have no creditability. You son are an epic failure…

            Jones the POS liar can be prosecuted. The officer can file a civil suit against him and the police department can file criminally. The DA’s office can also file criminally on Jones if the police department doesn’t…

            Lets put this to bed you frootloop dingus….

            A complainant should be aware that a peace officer, under provisions of 47.5 of the California Civil Code, may bring civil action against an individual who knowingly makes a false personnel complaint.

            In 1996, the California legislature added section 148.6 to the Penal Code. That section makes it a misdemeanor for a person to file an allegation of misconduct against a peace officer if the person knows that the report is false. In addition, the law enforcement agency who accepts an allegation of misconduct against a police officer shall require the complainant to read and sign the following advisory statement:

            YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER FOR ANY IMPROPER POLICE CONDUCT. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THIS AGENCY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE TO INVESTIGATE CITIZENS’ COMPLAINTS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROCEDURE. THIS AGENCY MAY FIND AFTER INVESTIGATION THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT ACTION ON YOUR COMPLAINT; EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT AND HAVE IT INVESTIGATED IF YOU BELIEVE AN OFFICER BEHAVED IMPROPERLY. CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ANY REPORTS OR FINDINGS RELATING TO COMPLAINTS MUST BE RETAINED BY THIS AGENCY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT THAT YOU KNOW TO BE FALSE. IF YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER KNOWING THAT IT IS FALSE, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

            There is no more argument…. The guy is a POS liar. He is a race baiter. He thought he would cash in on the Ferguson case…. It just didn’t work out for him, thanks to the fact the officer had a body camera.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. Nice try. So far youve failed epically. But youre on the right track. In fact yesterday we were discussing the criminal prosecution, with words like arrest, charges, prosecutor, beyond a reasonable doubt. Those are all terms exclusive to criminal prosecutions. That would mean the Penal Code section would apply, correct? Have you read the code section and made sure that it applies to do factual situation?

          • g_man1

            You are done…
            A complainant should be aware that a peace officer, under provisions of 47.5 of the California Civil Code, may bring civil action against an individual who knowingly makes a false personnel complaint.

            In 1996, the California legislature added section 148.6 to the Penal Code. That section makes it a misdemeanor for a person to file an allegation of misconduct against a peace officer if the person knows that the report is false. In addition, the law enforcement agency who accepts an allegation of misconduct against a police officer shall require the complainant to read and sign the following advisory statement:

            YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER FOR ANY IMPROPER POLICE CONDUCT. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THIS AGENCY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE TO INVESTIGATE CITIZENS’ COMPLAINTS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROCEDURE. THIS AGENCY MAY FIND AFTER INVESTIGATION THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT ACTION ON YOUR COMPLAINT; EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT AND HAVE IT INVESTIGATED IF YOU BELIEVE AN OFFICER BEHAVED IMPROPERLY. CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ANY REPORTS OR FINDINGS RELATING TO COMPLAINTS MUST BE RETAINED BY THIS AGENCY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT THAT YOU KNOW TO BE FALSE. IF YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER KNOWING THAT IT IS FALSE, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

            There is no more argument…. The guy is a POS liar. He is a race baiter. He thought he would cash in on the Ferguson case…. It just didn’t work out for him, thanks to the fact the officer had a body camera.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha. This is an amazingly simple exercise to screw up gman. Ill ask you again, have you read the language of the actual statute to verify it apllies to this situation? Do you know how to research state statutes? Guess not. leginfo.ca.gov. look at statutes, penal code, section 148.6

          • g_man1

            Wow you are so quick…. Sergio… You are amazing… This is what I already sent you… But let me repost it for you..

            California
            Penal Code

            Section 148.6

            (a)

            (1)Every person who files any allegation of misconduct against any peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, knowing the allegation to be false, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

            (2)

            Any law enforcement agency accepting an allegation of misconduct against a peace officer shall require the complainant to read and sign the following advisory, all in boldface type:YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER FOR ANY IMPROPER POLICE CONDUCT. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THIS AGENCY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE TO INVESTIGATE CITIZENS’ COMPLAINTS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROCEDURE. THIS AGENCY MAY FIND AFTER INVESTIGATION THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT ACTION ON YOUR COMPLAINT; EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT AND HAVE IT INVESTIGATED IF YOU BELIEVE AN OFFICER BEHAVED IMPROPERLY. CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ANY REPORTS OR FINDINGS RELATING TO COMPLAINTS MUST BE RETAINED BY THIS AGENCY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS.IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT THAT YOU KNOW TO BE FALSE. IF YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER KNOWING THAT IT IS FALSE, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

            I would also again call your attention to section 47.5 of the California Civil code.. A complainant should be aware that a peace officer, under provisions of 47.5 of the California Civil Code, may bring civil action against an individual who knowingly makes a false personnel complaint.
            I am done with you…. You are so uneducated and just a big moron… You frootloop dingus…

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha, actually you didnt send that before. Thats the first time you sent the language of the actual statute verbatim. Now, do you remember the second part i asked.you to do? (read it and make sure it applies to this situation)

          • g_man1

            No Sergio… I sent it to you before… Same language nothing different… You are just to ignorant and stupid to understand/comprehend.

            I am done with you. I have already wasted to much time trying to get through to a libtard frootloop dingus democrat..

          • Sergio Romero

            Wow, youre so stupid, youre having a hard time even knowing exactly what you have and havent sent. Thats bad. Lol. so look, what you’re saying is Jones can’t be prosecuted under California Penal Code section 148.6? but don’t you think that would violate his First Amendment free speech rights?

          • g_man1

            Sergio,
            Go back to school… You are so screwed up and don’t know what you are talking about.
            You are a frootloop dingus… You libtard democrat idiot.

          • Sergio Romero

            hahaha. From that post, youre clearly highly educated. BWAHAHAHA. When you were copying and pasting stuff from the internet you had so much to say. My how your post are dwindling down. Getting worn down? or just don’t have anything in that little brain of yours to say? BWAHAHA!!

          • Sergio Romero

            And crtical misstep last night, saying police OR DA could file charges. Only DA can. Now your little charade of pretending you work in the criminal justice field and that your wife is a judge just came crumbling down. You blew it. you exposed yourself as a fraud. You accuse me of being a fraud, but like I told you, I’m the real deal, what you see is what you get. Anybody want to question me they can look me up on the Internet. but it is you my friend who is the fraud.

          • Sergio Romero

            You keep calling me “dingus.” But youre misusing the word. Youre trying to insult someone with a word whose definition you dont even know, hahaha. Thats how pathetic you are. LOL

          • Sergio Romero

            Well i would again remind you that what we were discussing was a criminal prosecution, so P.C 148.6 applies.to that situation, not C.C. 47.5. C.C. 47.5 is for a civil matter.

          • Sergio Romero

            and FYI you just gave yourself away, you obviously don’t work in the criminal justice system. The police cannot file charges, only the district attorney can.

          • g_man1

            No speed racer… the police wright the report and file the charges through the DA’s office… the DA then prosecutes the case… The DA can also file charges separately as well as the police officer…
            You really are uneducated and stuck on stupid… My god son, how does one go through life being so inept.

          • Sergio Romero

            Sorry idiot. Police are not officers of the court and therefore can bring no.action, except as a pro se litigant in a civil matter. ONLY PROSECUTORS CAN FILE CHARGES IN COURT. Police have arrest charges, but not prosecutorial charges. Wrong again genius. Boy youre making yourself look mighty stupid. but let’s stay focused, point is the penal code applies.

          • g_man1

            Here ya go Sergio… I can’t get any clearer than this..

            False Complaint

            A complainant should be aware that a peace officer, under provisions of 47.5 of the California Civil Code, may bring civil action against an individual who knowingly makes a false personnel complaint.

            In 1996, the California legislature added section 148.6 to the Penal Code. That section makes it a misdemeanor for a person to file an allegation of misconduct against a peace officer if the person knows that the report is false. In addition, the law enforcement agency who accepts an allegation of misconduct against a police officer shall require the complainant to read and sign the following advisory statement:

            YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER FOR ANY IMPROPER POLICE CONDUCT. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THIS AGENCY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE TO INVESTIGATE CITIZENS’ COMPLAINTS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROCEDURE. THIS AGENCY MAY FIND AFTER INVESTIGATION THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT ACTION ON YOUR COMPLAINT; EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT AND HAVE IT INVESTIGATED IF YOU BELIEVE AN OFFICER BEHAVED IMPROPERLY. CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ANY REPORTS OR FINDINGS RELATING TO COMPLAINTS MUST BE RETAINED BY THIS AGENCY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT THAT YOU KNOW TO BE FALSE. IF YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER KNOWING THAT IT IS FALSE, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

          • Sergio Romero

            Now were getting somewhere!! Only took you nine hours!! Bravo!! Now, given our conversation yesterday regarding Jones being prosecuted for filing a false report, which of the two code sections from above would apply? Think hard! I know you can do it!

          • g_man1

            Sergio….

            My god are you a metal patient… or just that stuck on stupid. You have to be one of the most retarded people that I have come across….

            My god son….. God bless you.

          • Sergio Romero

            Now im sure your parents.dont want you to have another episode. And i dont want to humuliate u any further. I mean your reputation and credibility are sort of on the line here brother. People see me calling u out and challenging u, and all u can do is reposond with conclusory statements, like “i won the argument.” People arent gonna buy that, theyre too smart. Now if.u need help,.just let me know and i can help u out, but dont embarass yurseld brother. Or u can just walk away and not get verbally smacked around and clowned anymore. Or you can keep getting kicked around i guess. God youre a glutton for punishment. Lol

          • Sergio Romero

            the difference between me and you is, I spot the grammatical and spelling mistakes when I see them. some of them are correct, but mostly I just let it slide because I know you’re going to understand my meaning. your posts have also been full of spelling and grammar errors, but you don’t even recognize them. that’s how truly stupid you are. You need an education brother.

          • g_man1

            Sergio….. Do you hear that… You are being laughed at… Everyone knows you are a failure and fraud…

          • James Watkins

            What facts of the case did you use, Sergio? There are two side to this story. One word of mouth and the other on a video camera. Why don’t you just stop your BS and come to the realization that most people lie and most video cameras don’t.

          • Sergio Romero

            Uh,,,isnt it 2:30am where you are? Maybe you should go to bed instead of trolling some right wing website all night. Lol.

          • Sergio Romero

            What facts did I not use? Conversely, where did i use inaccurate facts, lije so many others have. I used several primary and secondary sources in gaining my knowledge of the incident, as well as the history of race relations and racism within OPD. The facts may be interpretted differently by didferent people, but we are all working off the same facts. The factual pattern is not that complex, but my command of them seems to be better than a lot of the people posting.

          • Sergio Romero

            Hahaha it’s a miracle you ever learned to read and write. You want to know what my degrees are? Minimal research will verify who I am and my credentials. You, on the other hand, have no credentials. You have no qualifications. And worse, you have absolutely no knowledge or reasoning skills. You are just some idiot who figured out how to turn on a computer. BWAHAHAHA

          • g_man1

            Sergio.. Here is your research.. You frootloop dingus.. I am done with you.. You are too stupid and uneducated to continue arguing with.
            Here you go… I hope you can comprehend…

            A complainant should be aware that a peace officer, under provisions of 47.5 of the California Civil Code, may bring civil action against an individual who knowingly makes a false personnel complaint.

            In 1996, the California legislature added section 148.6 to the Penal Code. That section makes it a misdemeanor for a person to file an allegation of misconduct against a peace officer if the person knows that the report is false. In addition, the law enforcement agency who accepts an allegation of misconduct against a police officer shall require the complainant to read and sign the following advisory statement:

            YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER FOR ANY IMPROPER POLICE CONDUCT. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THIS AGENCY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE TO INVESTIGATE CITIZENS’ COMPLAINTS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROCEDURE. THIS AGENCY MAY FIND AFTER INVESTIGATION THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT ACTION ON YOUR COMPLAINT; EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT AND HAVE IT INVESTIGATED IF YOU BELIEVE AN OFFICER BEHAVED IMPROPERLY. CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ANY REPORTS OR FINDINGS RELATING TO COMPLAINTS MUST BE RETAINED BY THIS AGENCY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT THAT YOU KNOW TO BE FALSE. IF YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER KNOWING THAT IT IS FALSE, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

            There is no more argument…. The guy is a POS liar. He is a race baiter. He thought he would cash in on the Ferguson case…. It just didn’t work out for him, thanks to the fact the officer had a body camera.

          • Sergio Romero

            “Many states call this charge ‘false report to a peace officer.’ It is one of the few types of speech that is not constitutionally protected.” Thats true, but criminalizing the filing of a complaint (even a false one) against a peace officer would run afoul of our First Amendment Free Speech rights and create a chilling effect, thereby dissuading citizens from filing (even legitimate) complaints. Such a statute wouldnt pass constitutional muster.

          • James Watkins

            Police officers are involved with many different types of reports, to name a few there are accident reports, missing persons reports, domestic reports. The filing of a “report” does not necessarily pertain to a crime that was committed. A person can falsely report an auto accident for instance and it is still falsely reporting. In other words making a false report. you should stop eluding to the misunderstanding that when someone files a report that they are expressly reporting a crime.

          • Sergio Romero

            Uh, dont know how to tell you this, but you and and i are in agreement. Thats exactly what i was saying, filing an internal complaint IS NOT the same thing as filing a police or crime report. The point at issue was whether Jones could be criminally prosecuted for filing a false report. I said it would depend on state law. One cant just assume he could be.

          • AirRaid29

            An Internal Affairs report is a police report. Many jurisdictions swear them out under pains and penalties of perjury, Internal Affairs investigators do an investigation just like a criminal invest, and sometimes criminal complaints result. I think it is you that has a minimal understanding of the law,

          • Sergio Romero

            Minimal understanding of the law with a juris doctorate huh? Well, i think you have a minimal understanding of the English language. Lets use your own words to help tou understand: “Internal Affairs investigators do an investigation JUST LIKE a criminal invest” (emphasis added). “Just like” signals it is similar to a criminal investigation, but it ISN’T a criminal investigation, which is what results from a POLICE REPORT. But thats all semantics. The point at issue is, could Jones be subject to prosecution for the generally-known offense of “filing a false report.” I said that would depend on whether the state statute covered IA complaints.

          • 7superdaimajin

            No one believes you have a law degree. You clearly don’t know anything about the law. Pack it in already.

          • Sergio Romero

            I dont care what anyone believes. If you cant see Ive handled every single thing thats been thrown at me, and that Im more knowlegable about the law than anyone thats commented to me, then you probably are actually the stupidest person on this site.

          • stopmisingormation

            No, you’re a world class BS artist. You have a Masters in Window Cleaning with a minor in Sweeping. Go away.

          • Sergio Romero

            WHAT A BRILLIANT INSULT!! You must be VERY smart! Im guessing youve been recognized for your intelligence your entire life. Lemmee guess, community college drop out? Beauty college drop out? Im youre insecure about not having a lot of brain power, its a personal problem. Please dont involve others by posting in public forums. Go to google.com, type “kitten” in the search box, then click on “Images.” That should keep you entertained on a level commensurate with your intellect. 🙂

          • AirRaid29

            No, you are an arrogant loudmouth who flaunts his JD as if it means he is more intelligent than others (fairly typical). I deal with lawyers all the time, some are intelligent and some are incompetent idiots. By “just like” my meaning was “same as”. Does that help? Or do I need to write it in nonsensical “JD Speak” for you to understand? IA invests can result in criminal or administrative charges. IA investigators are police officers, usually commissioned officers, and can charge criminally if the investigation warrants it. I have 20 years of experience that trumps your JD. I have personally seen IA cases result in criminal charges against officers and civilians.

          • Sergio Romero

            I actually am not arrogant, and I do not flaunt my JD. I only told you I had a JD after you stated, “I think it is you that has a minimal understanding of the law.” So look before you leap. You say you have “20 years experience,” but you do not say what your experience is in. So no one can give it any weight. If you are a cop, I can tell you I work with a lot of police as well. Within the criminal justice system, they are known for often not being very bright. Its an ongoing joke. In any case, it is unfortunate that even after 20 years experience, you still cannot accurately answer a basic legal question that has a clear answer.

            Back in 1979, the California Court of Appeals decided in Pena v. Municipal Court, 96 Cal.App.3d 77 that a citizen complaint against a police officer was not within the definition of a “report” for purposes of filing a false report (Penal Code section 148.5).

            In response to that holding, in 1995 the California Legislature enacted Penal Code section 148.6, which reads in part: “Every person who files any allegation of misconduct against any peace officer…knowing the allegation to be false, is guilty of a misdemeanor. This statute filled the gap and unambiguously criminalized the filing of a false complaint against a police officer by any citizen.

            However, in 2005, in Chaker v. Crogan, 428 F.3d 1215 C.A.9 (Cal.) 2005, the United States Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals found that 148.6 violated the U.S Constitution’s First Amendment Free Speech clause. The Court held that the statute impermissibly ran afoul the the First Amendment’s viewpoint neutrality requirement, and struck down the law.

            So looks like your experience does not trump my knowledge and experience. Maybe youre retired and not up on the law, but like I said before – look before you leap.

          • AirRaid29

            By the way, why would a brilliant legal mind such as yourself who claims to have a Juris Doctorate be the “President & C.E.O. Tap That Glass Window Cleaning?” with 20 years of window cleaning experience? Is a JD required to clean windows in CA?

          • Sergio Romero

            Lol. I never said I was a “brilliant legal mind.” I just stated the facts: that I have a few criminal justice degrees, and a law degree. I have the same knowledge as any other attorney. Its only people like you, insecure in their own knowledge, who inflate what I said, due to your own personal issues. And yes, I own an operate a window cleaning business, as well as another non-legal venture. One thing you probably never figured out is that a law degree is not solely useful for becoming an attorney. It is a superb education useful in many areas, and many graduates do not practice law. One thing it is great for is business. And since you seem so fascinated with me, Ill tell you that I actually have closer to 30 years window cleaning experience. I started going to work with my step father when I was 10 years old. I cleaned windows to put myself through school and graduate school, and law school. Frankly, its a bit creepy that you have looked at my other online profiles. Why do you feel the compulsion to do that, weirdo?

          • robert

            Actually he did file a false complaint of fact. He stated that the police officer did not let him show his FD ID. That was provably false. He stated that the police officer was belligerent and threatening and did not apologize. Provably false material facts to the complaint. As far as your last statement, you are ignorant. The police officer clearly followed policy. He did not know this man to be a fire fighter assigned to that station. He treated him with respect. Even when he issued orders he was not arrogant nor shouting at him. He was calm and clear in his orders as he should have been. He also apologized for the inconvenience even though he did not have to. The FF was out of uniform. Your last statement supposes that all white cops are racist that is not true and is proven by this video. And I’m not a supporter of current law enforcement culture. I am highly critical of it. But this officer acted properly. This video should be used as a training video.

          • Sergio Romero

            Have you read the complaint he filed? No? So you dont know what he did or dis not say in it. It was my understanding, not having read.the complaint either, that he said exactly what happened in video, that even after identifying himself, the cop kept them.all at hands up. They never shouldve been at hands. There was no report of a crime and no cause to believe there was any. Ive been called a few things in my life, but never ignorant. Thats ok, you dont know me.

          • Emanuel

            By your words, the police were called there by the FD reporting that they left they’re door open and for the police to close it. A smart person could deduct that the FD probably informed the police that no one was inside or should be inside the station, hence the original call. So if the officer responding to a supposedly empty building with an open door, arrives on scene and encounters people that shouldn’t be inside he will act accordingly. He was in low light conditions and outnumbered 3 to 1. In a situation like that you don’t know who is who and what age everybody is. 3 to 1 is all you know. 3 to 1 in a building that should have no one in it. The firefighter identifies himself verbally to be off duty and that he was checking the business. The firefighter is not in his uniform and is wearing civilians. I could say I’m the Mayor of Oakland but that is just words and talk, doesn’t prove who I am really am. Officer handled it textbook and safely. He made sure he was able to see everybody’s hands on the scene, because he knows that no one can hurt him if he see’s their hands and those hands are empty. He then had the firefighter turn around to visually inspect for any bulges or protrusions that would indicate any weapons. Once that was done, he allowed the firefighter to gather his ID. By that point, backup has already arrived, and the officer already could be heard telling his dispatch to “slow everyone down”, indicating that any additional units responding didn’t need to get there at lights/siren speed. Point is, the officer walked into a building for a routine call, ended up in a non-routine situation, and handled professionally and efficiently. The firefighter and his kids were probably scared a bit, as it was a stressful situation there for a few moments, but there was no racial attitude displayed by the officer at all. I expect the officer to react that way to anyone in that situation regardless if they are black, white, yellow, purple, blue, etc…The firefighter is just fishing for something that isn’t there, hope he gets some time off without pay from his higher ups. Blue and red are on the same team, we should be working together, not tearing each other apart over some B.S. racial claim. Luckily the officer was recording, because if not, with today’s media, that officer would have probably ended up suspended or fired for no good reason. All that firefighter did was cause another issue where there shouldn’t be one.

          • Sergio Romero

            I see what youre sayin. To be clear, the kids were not inside the building, they were outside the building. And they were 9 and 11 year old young kids. I wouldnt call that meanfingfully being outnumbered 3 to 1.

          • TrueWiiMaster

            He did in fact knowingly make a false statement. He claimed he was not allowed to show his ID, but he was. He also claimed that the officer never apologized, but he did.

          • Sergio Romero

            Assuming he in fact said those things (considering no one on this site has read the complaint he filed) just because he was wrong doesnt mean he knowingly lied. Again prosecutor could never prove the fireman had the knowledge he was making an incorrect statement.

          • TrueWiiMaster

            If the fireman recounted the scenario in his complaint, and claimed that things were not only different, but completely opposite what actually happened, it wouldn’t be that hard to prove he was knowingly making a false statement. The only other option would be that the fireman had no recollection of the event as it actually happened, in which case his whole account is worthless.

          • Sergio Romero

            Considering no one here has read his complaint, from.what is being said, i wouldnt characterize his account as “totally opposite.” I would say perhaps he missed a detail – namely, that the cop never apologized. Its not my understanding that he claimed.the officer NEVER let him show his ID, but rather didnt let him show it or put his hands down even though the fireman had identified himself and explained his purpose. The fireman is stating with all the exculpatory information the cop had received by that time, he shouldve deescalted. So with that, a prosecutor could not prove to the requisite standard that it was a knowingly false statement.

          • FDC

            He made a false statement knowingly by claiming the officers motive was racism and prejuduce . The tape shows there was no racism or prejudice motive. what is a prejudicial thought?

          • Sergio Romero

            You cannot prove the officers actions were not racially motivated. So there could be no prosecution for filing a false report. Prosecutor couldnt prove the essential elements of the crime.

          • 7superdaimajin

            “You cannot prove the officer’s actions were not racially motivated.”

            He doesn’t have to, stupid. The plaintiff ( or his attorney ) has the burden of proof. Didn’t they teach you about “innocent until proven guilty” in your “law class”. Derp. : P

          • Sergio Romero

            You belong to that class of people who are so dumb, you are better off not speaking at all. In the quote above we were discussing the possibility of an action for filing a false report. In such an action the prosecution would carry the burden of proof, and would thus have to persuade a jury the officers actions were racially motivated. Youre so ignorant you cant even see why my answers are correct. Now go color with your crayons.

          • Sergio Romero

            I dont need to prove to everyone youre an uneducated, ignorant, bigotted POS, Ill let you do that for me…

          • Renee

            He reported that the officer refused to look at his ID. He reported behaviour of the officer as belligerent. Not true. Could have cost the officer his job and did slander his reputation. The officer was polite after verifying lack of threat.

          • Sergio Romero

            Im assuming you havent read the complaint he filed, so how do know what he reported? I never heard him use the word belligerent. And its my understanding that he didnt say the officer NEVER let him show his ID, just that he didnt allow him.to when he firt offered – the officer kept him.at hands up.

          • Neil Klopsch

            Internal complaints are considered municipal documents, Municipal documents are considered sworn and attested too. That means it is the same as filing a false police report,

          • Sergio Romero

            Sorry, but youre wrong. California law treats complaints against police differently than they do police reports. Please research the lae before attempting to answer legal questions.

          • fastestflash

            You have selective hearing apparently. Did you by any chance skip over the part where he said the officer didn’t allow him to put his hands down, show his I.D, or offer an apology? With your vast knowledge of language I’m surprised you have difficulty in understanding what constitutes a false statement of facts. Maybe you didn’t watch the police recording and are assuming the fire fighter’s statements were accurate. That would explain your apparent confusion.

          • Sergio Romero

            “Did you by any chance skip over the part where he said the officer didn’t allow him to put his hands down, show his I.D, or offer an apology?” If you werent developmentally disabled, youd see ive already addressed every single one of those alleged statements. And yes, i have good command of English, as well as law. Good enough to know that in order for a person to be convicted for filing false report, a prosecutor would have to prove the person knowingly made a false statement, and that their account of the event was not merely incorrect or mistaken. In this instance, a prosecutor would know he couldnt prove beyond a reasonable doubt Jones was LYING. Because a defense attorney could raise reasonable doubt by telling a jury Jones’ account was inaccurate simply because he memory was flawed. It was a tense, brief, and according to him, terrifying encounter. Under that kind of stress, human perception is diminished and recollection of the events is skewed. Anyone working in the criminal justice system knows that. There are entire books written about the problems of eyewitness testimony. But it would never even get that far. First of all what evidence do you have Jones ever even claimed the things you say he did? Second, Im not convinced Jones or anyone similarly situated could even face prosecution for filing a false report against a cop. Now that youve had your ass handed to you, is there anything else i can help you with?

          • MikeJ371 .

            Yes, we absolutely do have evidence the officer was not racially motivated. From the above story, “…a police officer, who was already responding to a call about a possible burglary at that location, pulled up and told Jones and his boys to put their hands up.” Also, we have the professional manner in which the officer acted, as captured by his body cam. In the hopes of defusing this sub-thread, let me remind everyone that two wrongs do not a right make, truth does not lie in numbers, and one does not have to have gone to college in order to know the truth, or to write well. Thank you.

          • Sergio Romero

            Thanks for the well thought out and well stated post.

            “From the above story, “…a police officer, who was already responding to a call about a possible burglary at that location…”

            The San Francisco Bay Area television news reporter who covered the story and investigated it for himself stated that according to OAKLAND POLICE, the Oakland Fire Department called Oakland police at 10:39 p.m. the night of the incident to inform them the doors of Station 29 might have been left open and requested an officer respond. A police officer arrived at 10:51 p.m.

            “Also, we have the professional manner in which the officer acted…”

            I would agree with you that the officer was outwardly professional. But that is certainly not conclusive evidence that he did not react to the family with fear and suspicion because they were black. It doesnt answer the question, if they were all white, would he still have suspected them of criminal conduct and feared for his safety?

            I agree a person doesnt need to go to college to be smart or write well. I have consistently stated that in my posts. “In the end, degrees dont matter”

          • Benisstupid

            1. The police officer was investigating a possible burglary in progress at a fire station.
            2. This officer was the first on the scene and he observes two young males in the dark outside the fire station and shortly afterwards you walk out. It is not uncommon for burglars to have look-outs or to use children as look-outs.
            3. The officer for his safety and according to his training asks everyone to put their hands up.
            4. You immediately tell him you are a fire fighter and that you were checking out the building because they must have left it open when they went on a run.
            5. The officer process what you said and nicely responded OK and asked you a couple of more questions, at the same time asking you to keep your hands up. Based on the information you just gave him, the officer then immediately gets on the radio and advises other responding officers to slow down.
            6. Since he has never met you before, he asks that you hold your hands up high and turn around once so he can see your waste line for any weapons. That was a reasonable request. He still has not drawn his weapon. In my opinion, if he had drawn his weapon, he would have been reasonable to do so.
            7. Even if he felt what you were telling him was true, he still has his procedures to follow which you clearly don’t understand since you are trained to fight fires and not how to safely investigate persons encountered at the scene of a possible burglary in progress.
            8. The officer then asked you to hand him your fire department identification card and almost simultaneously he asked dispatch to check the license plates to the truck that you said belong to you.
            9. At this point, another police officer arrives on the scene and you can clearly hear the first officer explain to the second officer what you told him.
            10. The second officer explains to you the reasons for what they are doing and apologizes for the unfortunate situation you have all been placed.
            11. In the audio, you can be heard saying no problem you understand.
            12. The entire encounter was cleared up in approximately 70 seconds.
            13. You stated the officer was stressed out and scared. In the audio recording, the officer sounded calm as he talked to you and his dispatcher. He calmly went by the numbers according to his training, which is why the Police Department said he “acted within policy”.
            You have failed to show how this alleged misconduct was motivated by your race as it clearly was not.

          • Benisstupid

            1. The police officer was investigating a possible burglary in progress at a fire station.
            2. This officer was the first on the scene and he observes two young males in the dark outside the fire station and shortly afterwards you walk out. It is not uncommon for burglars to have look-outs or to use children as look-outs.
            3. The officer for his safety and according to his training asks everyone to put their hands up.
            4. You immediately tell him you are a fire fighter and that you were checking out the building because they must have left it open when they went on a run.
            5. The officer process what you said and nicely responded OK and asked you a couple of more questions, at the same time asking you to keep your hands up. Based on the information you just gave him, the officer then immediately gets on the radio and advises other responding officers to slow down.
            6. Since he has never met you before, he asks that you hold your hands up high and turn around once so he can see your waste line for any weapons. That was a reasonable request. He still has not drawn his weapon. In my opinion, if he had drawn his weapon, he would have been reasonable to do so.
            7. Even if he felt what you were telling him was true, he still has his procedures to follow which you clearly don’t understand since you are trained to fight fires and not how to safely investigate persons encountered at the scene of a possible burglary in progress.
            8. The officer then asked you to hand him your fire department identification card and almost simultaneously he asked dispatch to check the license plates to the truck that you said belong to you.
            9. At this point, another police officer arrives on the scene and you can clearly hear the first officer explain to the second officer what you told him.
            10. The second officer explains to you the reasons for what they are doing and apologizes for the unfortunate situation you have all been placed.
            11. In the audio, you can be heard saying no problem you understand.
            12. The entire encounter was cleared up in approximately 70 seconds.
            13. You stated the officer was stressed out and scared. In the audio recording, the officer sounded calm as he talked to you and his dispatcher. He calmly went by the numbers according to his training, which is why the Police Department said he “acted within policy”.
            You have failed to show how this alleged misconduct was motivated by your race as it clearly was not.
            Not to mention this call was originally taken by an unarmed security employee of the Oakland F.D. Who in sum and substance stated “the door is open and someone is inside”.

          • Sergio Romero

            Excellent use of facts to support your position.

            1. The police officer was investigating a possible burglary in progress
            at a fire station.

            According to Oakland, Oakland Fire called Oakland police at 10:39 p.m. the night of the incident to inform them the doors of Station 29 might have been left open, and requested an officer respond and lock up if necessary. A police officer arrived at 10:51 p.m. http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/oakland-police-officer-who-detained-firefighter-ki/nhFkw/)

            Thus, the officer was not responding to a burglary, or any other
            criminal activity, simply to see if the doors had in fact been left open, and if so to lock them. At the time the officer arrived on scene, there was no reasonable cause to believe criminal activity afoot.

            2. This officer was the first on the scene and he observes two young
            males in the dark outside the fire station and shortly afterwards you walk out. It is not uncommon for burglars to have look-outs or to use children as look-outs.

            The officer saw two respectably-dressed young boys, ages 9 and 11 – not even teengaers. The two boys were simply standing about, no burglary tools or other indicia or criminal or other wrongdoing, no flight, no furtive moments, nothing to raise the officer’s suspicions.

            3. The officer for his safety and according to his training asks
            everyone to put their hands up.

            In a raised voice, the officer assertively commands, “Put your hands up! Put your hands up! Turn around!” (at :06, lapel cam video)

            4. You immediately tell him you are a fire fighter and that you were
            checking out the building because they must have left it open when they went on a run.

            More-less agreed: But for the points 4 through 11, Im going to depart
            from you and rely on lapel cam video:

            Jones: [to Officer] “Im an Oakland firefighter. I seen our [inaudible]
            left this door open. I walked through the station. I’m an Oakland firefighter. That’s my truck right there. See the ‘KJ’ in the front? See the firefighter plates? (at :09)

            Officer: “Stay right there, don’t move.” (at :21)

            Children: [can be heard crying] (at :27)

            Jones: [to his children] ”It’s ok son. It’s ok kids.” (at :27)

            Officer: [into radio] “LT36 it’ll be code 34, code 4. Can you copy a plate for me?” (at :28)

            Jones: [to officer] “I got my city ID in my backpocket.” (at :36)

            Officer: [runs plate] (at :39)

            Children: [can be heard crying harder now] (at :42)

            5. The officer process what you said and nicely responded OK and asked you a couple of more questions, at the same time asking you to keep your hands up. Based on the information you just gave him, the officer then immediately gets on the radio and advises other responding officers to slow down.

            Until this point, the officer has never actually asked any of the three any questions. At :53 the officer tells dispatch, “You can slow everyone else down.”

            6. Since he has never met you before, he asks that you hold your hands up high and turn around once so he can see your waste line for any weapons. That was a reasonable request. He still has not drawn his weapon. In my opinion, if he had drawn his weapon, he would have been reasonable to do so.

            I won’t say it is a totally unreasonable request in light of the situation as it stood at that moment. Below, I will describe a different way
            things could have gone, avoiding hands up, gun grabbing, and children crying.

            7. Even if he felt what you were telling him was true, he still has his procedures to follow which you clearly don’t understand since you are trained to fight fires and not how to safely investigate persons encountered at the scene of a possible burglary in progress.

            Agreed, except for there being a possible burglary in progress as a
            factor to be considered.

            8. The officer then asked you to hand him your fire department identification card and almost simultaneously he asked dispatch to check the license plates to the truck that you said belong to you.

            Difference in chronological order (Officer ran plates first), aside from
            that, agreed It is about this time that the officer finally allows the kids to put their hands down (at 1:45)

            9. At this point, another police officer arrives on the scene and you
            can clearly hear the first officer exp lain to the second officer what you told him.

            Agreed; at 1:53.

            10. The second officer explains to you the reasons for what they are doing and apologizes for the unfortunate situation you have all been placed.

            Agreed. And Jones tells the second officer, “I told him I could show him my ID to show him who I am but—“ and first officer cuts him off.

            11. In the audio, you can be heard saying no problem you understand.

            Agreed.

            12. The entire encounter was cleared up in approximately 70 seconds.

            From the time the officer told the children to put their hand up at :06 to he told them they could put them down at 1:45, about 100 seconds. Though it seems short to us, it probably did not feel that way to the crying kids.

            13. You stated the officer was stressed out and scared. In the audio recording, the officer sounded calm as he talked to you and his dispatcher. He calmly went by the numbers according to his training, which is why the Police Department said he “acted within policy”.

            It is axiomatic that being the lone officer coming onto what he thought
            might be a possible burglary at night in Oakland is a stressful experience. That stress is evident from the video. Telling the kids to raise their hands demonstrates that he was fearful for his safety. If he wasn’t, there would be no reason to have them put their hands up, rationally or legally.

            You have failed to show how this alleged misconduct was motivated by your race as it clearly was not.

            You have failed to demonstrate that the officer was not swayed by prejudicial thought or stereotype. If the officer came upon two decently-dresses young White boys, and a respectable, clean-cut white man exited the building, would the officer had treated them the same? Or did he see three black males, associate Black people with criminal propensity, and treat them suspiciously, not only as criminals but who also were dangerous? Would a White officer reach
            for his gun, assume a shooting position, and yell “Hands up!” to a 9 year old White little boy?

            Here’s a counter-factual analysis: instead of reaching for his gun,
            etc., he could have simply asked the kids “What are you doing here?” To which they would have answered, “Our dad’s a firefighter. He’s inside.” Hmmm. Sound better? No guns, no possible shooting, no kids crying, no citizen complaint. Is that what the officer would have done if they were White?

            Finally, I never tried to prove the cop was racially motivated. I mostly
            was simply posing the question as food for thought. Thanks again for your post. It was very well presented.

            Not to mention this call was originally taken by an unarmed security
            employee of the Oakland F.D. Who in sum and substance stated “the door is open and someone is inside”.

            Please cite your source.

          • Revillea mcIntire

            Politically correct! It could become a misdemeanor if the officer used vocabularies that was offensive and had threaten his job and had testify under oath.

          • Greg

            He’s still a Liar and a POS, just like you apparently are.

          • Sergio Romero

            Congratulations on forming a complete sentence. Your first? Funny to see frustrated, angry little monkey try to insult someone. You’re not even smart enough to do that. Go back to playing with your bananas.

          • guest

            You cant prove he did or didnt wtf kind of logic is that. He slandered the officer with his false complaint. The news idiots ran with the racist card. Grow the f up!

          • mary witte

            check again your wrong

          • Anubis13

            LOL He made a false statement period. Did you even bother to watch both videos?? You’re a mook too..

          • Bill Pittman

            IT seems a lot of people are ok with what he did.

          • zoomwhat

            I disagree. According to the article, “He also filed a complaint against the officer”. That would lead one to believe that he indeed filed a signed complaint, whether a police report or an internal complaint. Either way, he was attempting to disparage the officer. And by your own words, it was “false statement of fact” as the video disproved everything he said. Not about “proving predudicial thoughts” here, simply falsely relating the entire incident.

          • ron

            your just stupid read the article again even the big words

          • George Frayer

            So what you are saying is the Black guy in the videos family tree does not fork right?

          • James Cannon

            In some jurisdictions, filing a false police complaint is a criminal offense.

          • WTF

            Where do they have interdepartmental complaints as a criminal offense? Not saying you are wrong I’ve just never heard of it.

          • James Cannon

            In more than one state, but in particular in Louisiana for one LA RS 133.5. Filing a false complaint against a law enforcement officer : http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=408545

          • WTF

            Nice I like that

          • Revillea mcIntire

            Say who? Oops,, down south It when you don’t judge all AA as liars.

          • mary witte

            I have no idea what your talking about, do you

          • Renee

            Not sure what the difference is between a false complaint or a false report.

          • WTF

            A police report in a report of a crime and a complaint is like if the office is rude

          • Rick Armin

            Back in the days when I was active in counter politics, CBS was known for its Crocumentaries. Any inclusion of truth in a CBS broadcast was purely coincidental.

          • Weaver

            false complaint against an officer, should be prosecuted

          • George Frayer

            He could be fined up to 500 dollars for submitting a false report…..

          • D_Smith2020

            That was hard to watch. The leftist media vets nothing anymore. They simply snatch stories off the wire that fit their ideology and push them out as propaganda to brainwash the public. It’s disgusting to see a complete lack of integrity with what once had such a sterling reputation it was referred to as the fifth estate. All gone. The Django star is another example; the liberal press omitted the fact she was engaged in the act of fornication in a vehicle parked in a public place with the door wide open and many people were watching what amounted to a live porn show. They just filtered that right out of the story and spun it as a racial matter. How revolting.

          • Revillea mcIntire

            It became a Racial matter when you only do it to Black Americans. Did you not know that Albinos crime is the most horrific from slumsville o albinos in wall street.

          • Greg

            Please get off welfare, go back to school, and get a job.

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          • mary witte

            what?

          • Weaver

            racial matter, can you NOT READ or WATCH A VIDEO??????????
            what’s your IQ? Must be less than 0

          • Congress

            Really???? How many times does that REALLY happen.
            It looks to me that the black race are the ones that are actually racist and they use that card ANY time the want to get away with bad behavior, destruction,

          • coppermouse

            you got that right

          • George Frayer

            There not even a real race in America, most of them have more white than anything…. I mean yeah there are some real dark ones but…..There family tree has no branches to speak of, kind of like them undesirables in the mountains with hair-lips.

          • Mark Banks

            You realize it’s the other way around… EVERY white person in America has a black background with black ancestors.

          • ShannonSzukala

            My moms family immigrant from Poland in the early 1900’s I can say they don’t have a black background. But I can say my Dad’s side is for in the 1800’s our Grand Grand Mother etc, was half black and part Indian.

          • George Frayer

            Ok sure buddy, I pretty much said that but, yeah you win….

          • George Frayer

            ahahaha, you were joking right?

          • Mark Banks

            Albinos? Sorry but all White people in America have BLACK ancestors… Every single cracker has a speck of pepper in them.

          • Elizabeth Hagen

            Makes no sense to an educated person…
            …look up albino, to start.

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          • Revillea mcIntire

            You should say that because you just filed one, titch! Police personnel files lies all the times! We know too many of them that does.

          • Seattlesciren

            Filing a CRIMINAL false criminal report is a crime. See what I posted in response to another persons post on the same topic and original post.

        • Matthew Lee Franks

          Defamation is a crime, I hate to inform you, as is slander.

          • Michelle Mexicali

            I’m no lawyer and don’t pretend to be one but it’s that a civil matter and not criminal??

          • Sergio Romero

            Short of additional evidence, there in fact has been no crime, tort, or other unlawful conduct done here.

          • AirRaid29

            If he intentionally lied (which he clearly did) and it caused the Officer harm at his place of employment or stress in his home life the FF could be sued.

          • Sergio Romero

            Causing harm at work or stress at home doesnt necessarily mean he can prove up damages. You need more just that.

          • Sergio Romero

            No its not a crime. And even.as a civil matter, the officer has not suffered any damages, so no lawsuit. Please educate yourself before posting in public forums.

          • Nancy

            Seems to me that the firefighter DID exaggerate what happened, and did it knowingly, by virtue of the fact that he now refuses to talk to the same reporter who interviewed him before the officer’s tape was released. If he thought he was still in the right, he’d still be self-righteously blabbing for the cameras, and Jesse and Al would be en route to Oakland for the anti-racism convention. Instead, now we hear…(*crickets*).

            Like that old saying, “Innocent men don’t run; guilty men do.”

        • Ernie Combs

          If the charges were reversed, they’d find a law.

        • TrueWiiMaster

          Defamation of character. Not an arrestable offense, but the officer could sue for damages. If not for the video proving the “victim” was lying, the officer’s life could have been turned upside down. As it is, his name was dragged through the mud on false accusations, and many people will never know the accusations were false.

          • Emanuel

            Sergio Romero — By your words, the police were called there by the FD reporting that they left they’re door open and for the police to close it. A smart person could deduct that the FD probably informed the police that no one was inside or should be inside the station, hence the original call. So if the officer responding to a supposedly empty building with an open door, arrives on scene and encounters people that shouldn’t be inside he will act accordingly. He was in low light conditions and outnumbered 3 to 1. In a situation like that you don’t know who is who and what age everybody is. 3 to 1 is all you know. 3 to 1 in a building that should have no one in it. The firefighter identifies himself verbally to be off duty and that he was checking the business. The firefighter is not in his uniform and is wearing civilians. I could say I’m the Mayor of Oakland but that is just words and talk, doesn’t prove who I am really am. Officer handled it textbook and safely. He made sure he was able to see everybody’s hands on the scene, because he knows that no one can hurt him if he see’s their hands and those hands are empty. He then had the firefighter turn around to visually inspect for any bulges or protrusions that would indicate any weapons. Once that was done, he allowed the firefighter to gather his ID. By that point, backup has already arrived, and the officer already could be heard telling his dispatch to “slow everyone down”, indicating that any additional units responding didn’t need to get there at lights/siren speed. Point is, the officer walked into a building for a routine call, ended up in a non-routine situation, and handled professionally and efficiently. The firefighter and his kids were probably scared a bit, as it was a stressful situation there for a few moments, but there was no racial attitude displayed by the officer at all. I expect the officer to react that way to anyone in that situation regardless if they are black, white, yellow, purple, blue, etc…The firefighter is just fishing for something that isn’t there, hope he gets some time off without pay from his higher ups. Blue and red are on the same team, we should be working together, not tearing each other apart over some B.S. racial claim. Luckily the officer was recording, because if not, with today’s media, that officer would have probably ended up suspended or fired for no good reason. All that firefighter did was cause another issue where there shouldn’t be one.

            And btw, yes, I am a police officer, and nothing is more infuriating than having to work long 12 hour shifts then find out that someone had complained on you for something bogus and false, but since you wrote that particular person a traffic citation or towed their car because it didn’t have insurance and a suspended tag, they figure they’ll ruin your day by complaining. Yeah, it happens a lot. But thank god for in-car camera’s and body camera’s because it’s proven them to be liars every time.

        • Mike Morrelli

          So sue him for Defamation of Character. And it is a slight stretch, but greater stretches have been made, to claim he has emotionally abused his children with involving them in a lie and feeding them a false ideal of what situation really occurred. He is a horrible parent that will make it more difficult for his own children to feel safe in a world where real problems happen. They will now have a more difficult time resolving a real problem by relating it to a false problem that they are victims of racism even where none existed.

        • dennis

          Yes he did break the law by slander and harassment and defamation of character witch are all three crime. The cop could sue him big time also for mental anguish. I th7nk they should through the book at him the people that keep yelling racism is the main racists that there are.

        • Renee

          False report is chargeable offense.

        • tommyboy

          offense….

        • Herman Vogel

          Giving a False report in most states is a felony. He should be charged as such and also FIRED from the FD. This kind of person is not what we want working to save lives.

        • mary witte

          filing a false report is a crime

        • Mark Banks

          It’s Deformation of Character bro, it counts.

          • George Frayer

            in order for Defamation of character to be the case it must be directed towards a specific person, not an imaginary ethnicity that couldn’t possibly exist after so many generations in the “Melting Pot”. Not a damn one of us American are 100% white, not if there family has been here for more than 6 generations…. Excluding those that have kids with siblings, those people are way nasty.

          • Mark Banks

            If it costs him his job, and future employment, it most definitely counts.

        • Jeff Jackson

          Filing a false crime/report against a civil servant is a crime…..

      • Revillea mcIntire

        Pam: why??? Because if that is thew major issue(s) the consequent for ALL albino looking titches should be demise. You build this country on LIES and degraded those who do not look like you as name it you have used it. If IISIS should come over they will only come to get those that look like you, Albino!

      • Seattlesciren

        “He also filed a complaint against the officer, who he said “never apologized” for stopping him.” When someone files a citizens complaint with police departments office of citizens complaints.. there is spot for them to sign their name attesting to the facts they wrote down are true. It is an official police report. Hence, filing a false report. Its not a criminal offense since its not involving a crime, but in some cities it is civil and the person making the complaint can be charged with fines; for time spent investigating etc.. , BUT, I agree that he should make a PUBLIC apology with his children there so that they can see that the police were in the right and to show the children that regardless of what their dad said..this officer did nothing wrong.

    • Ernie Combs

      I think he should be prosecuted……….and, labeled as a proven “race baiter”…….and, pre-empt Obama’s confused speeches.

    • Revillea mcIntire

      Michael J. Simmons: Then the apologies should begin with you. how many times have you lied? You are in denial! I don’t condone lying but when you cease in lying; then, you can say you’re do not lie. You are a liar!!.

    • Jim Robinson

      Public apology? BS. The firefighter should be charged with making a false report and fired. Period.

    • Bob

      Yeah. THAT’l teach him.

  • hexxuss

    What should happen to Jones!? HE should be labeled as a race-baiter, and FIRED!

    • David

      No, the USA is his country, it’s not for whiteys anymore. White children have been the minority in the USA since 2011, and white birthrates continue to plummet, and non-whites continue to skyrocket. The new America does not want us whiteys policing them, and they’re right!

      The best thing the police of Ferguson could do is what the people and the media seem to want: walk off the job. Leave Ferguson to its fate. The time has come for responsible whites to stop trying to save people who don’t want to be saved.
      -Gregory Hood, ‘Who’s to Blake for the Ferguson Riots?’

      YouTube: Sam Dickson 2011 NPI Speech

      • Nelson Phillip

        I could not agree more and leave a few hundred weapons so they keep killing themselves like the fools in Chicago who believe they can take guns away and the crime will stop, Yah how is that working for you CHICAGO. Pull out the protection and see how long that town becomes Detroit or Chicago, and the only ones want to live there will be the Muslims.

      • Nutbar Mcloony

        I confess I initially down-voted your post because I thought you were a self-hating white. Now I realize what you’re advocating is an “Atlas Shrugged” type of thing. I suspect the more dysfunctional blacks would still blame their predicament on whites, though, even if it made no sense. The more sensible ones would probably move.

        • Phillip Jordan

          it’s always the whites fault for everything so why shouldn’t it be this time too. Everybody blames everything on someone else America has become a pit of unaccountability. Blacks blame the white, whites blame the mexicans and muslims, even the government always blames someone else for everything. Have a little responsibility for your actions people and the world we live in will actually improve for a change.
          .

          • Phil Asophical

            what do whites blame Mexicans for coming into country Illegally? Or do we blame Muslims for the terrorist they are, yep you have a problem with facts

          • Ginger Woods

            Fact’s are facts…Muslims are terrorist,and until I can tell the difference I want them to stay away from me. They scare me.

          • WTF

            Wow there really are people like you out there…..

          • mary

            This took a turn for the worse… I was on board with everyone letting Dr. Sergio know what an idiot he is but now I feel like im creeping into a KKK meeting.

          • Korban Dallas

            Phil Asophical said, “what do whites blame Mexicans for coming into country Illegally?” Dude. Next time please don’t comment If you can’t write something comprehensible.

          • Beedogz

            Present-dent Bumbling Barry Oblamer is the worst one of all at failing to accept accountability.

        • Yeahright54

          We should let ISIS take care of the Blacks around here.

          • George Frayer

            ISIS offered during the riots.

      • Ernie Combs

        And there’d be more Detroits……..agree ?

        • David

          You believe that blacks are limited to the Detroits? That’s so 1970. Blacks and other non-whites have colonized every single American city….and now the suburbs, too. Check out the great book, ‘White Girl Bleed a Lot’ and author Colin Flaherty’s YouTube channel.

          Detroit IS the USA. Camden IS the USA. Baltimore IS the USA. Not in some dystopian future….but right now.

          Good for them! I admire the blacks and agree they have the right to practice their culture and I envy their Darwinian success! I wish that white people would resume procreating and securing lands for our own people

          YouTube: Sam Dickson 2011 NPI Speech
          Google: “The War on Whites is All They Have” by Gregory Hood

      • Sergio Romero

        Good. Yes, leave Ferguson White people. Dont stop marching, go to Canada or Mexico. The rest of us dont want you here.

        • OnePissedOffAmerican

          You’re as bad as any. How dare you lump “white people” into one group and then complain that “white people” are doing that same thing. One thing I really hate is a hypocrite. Race baiter? That would be YOU!!!

          • Sergio Romero

            I being facetious, but i guess that wasnt clear. Ill edit.

    • Irene Cooper

      agree,Fire him..

    • Tarth

      hexxuss 13 hours ago
      “What should happen to Jones!? HE should be labeled as a race-baiter, and FIRED!”

      THAT^^^^

    • Melissa Hamari

      At the very least he should be punished for out-right lying.

      • Just me

        What did he lie about?

        • CrazyforYeshua

          What did he lie about??? Did you read the story or watch the video?? Apparently not….

        • Beedogz

          You have the comprehension skills of a doorknob.

          • Memphomaniac

            Publik Skrewl. Imagine what Jones just taught his kids! How to make some money…off “Da man!”

          • ND

            I thought the same thing . Instead of telling his sons that the the p officer was just doing his job to protect the firestation…he made them believe they were victims of racism. Should be ashamed.

          • NVRick

            What did a doorknob ever do to you? Quit insulting them by comparing their comprehensive skills to “Just me”.

        • David Pendleton

          he lied about the officers treatment of him and his kids…

        • David Ortega Sr.

          Read the article and watch the video. You will find your answer in there.

        • Jack Reilly

          Just Me…..did you not watch BOTH videos????????????? Ya know the one where he’s lying and then the one (TRUE ONE) from the cops body camera………WTF kind of stupid are you.

    • Dan Abbate

      I couldn’t agree more. He should be subjected to the same ridicule that the officer would have been subjected to had this lie not been proven. Jones should NOT represent any uniform.

    • Chuck

      Yeah, similiar to false rape cases….no foul. But it’s a nice wish!

  • Hamcop

    A liar and a black racist. OFD doesn’t need anybody on there like this. FIRE HIM THE COP DID EVERYTHING RIGHT!!!!

    • lstarr55

      Especially since he was trying to get the officer fired! Worse yet, he dragged his children into his lies! What kind of example is he setting for anyone, including and especially his own kids?

      • dancingontheheadofapin

        He should have to make a public apology and the TV station should be required to update the story and place the blame on the firefighter. He should have to undergo retraining and his kids should be counseled. All three of them should meet the officer in person and it should be televised on the station that ran the first story. I should also be printed in the newspaper. The police officer’s reputation could have been permanently damaged and his job could have been in jeopardy. It could also cost him in court fees. The firefighter should expect some severe repercussions from the lying and from instilling such racism in his children. That is inexcusable!

        • MyFake OnlineName

          This is certainly a situation where sensitivity training should be required and is highly appropriate. I’d never thought of that one, glad you did.

          • kdb

            Training? Who do you think pays for the training of firemen? Tax payers… Is it my fault this guy had black racist parents and is now raising black racist children? Do we have to once again make it everyone else’s responsibility to “train” blacks to not be shitty people? Or do we have to spend extra tax dollars to “train” white officers to act differently around blacks? This is ridiculous… If you look at the amount of blacks vrs. Hispanics vrs whites in our jails, the numbers are staggering. Its normal for an officer to view a black man in a hoody walking around in the dark empty fire house building as suspicious, after all they are the MAJORITY when it comes to law breaking. I’m sorry but profiling in my eyes is acceptable. Its normal to stereotype. Its part of our instinct. Its smart. The ONLY thing that should happen is this guy should be fired and charges should be pressed for slander and defamation. I have black friends, I have white friends. I’m not a racist. I dislike shitty people of every race. White trash is probably the worst. Numbers are numbers though and they don’t lie, blacks outnumber whites in the jails and its not because white officers are racist!

          • DaveT

            simple solution, make him pay for the training. We have to pay for traffic school, drunk driving school, etc. What ever cost incurred, even for the investigation should come out of his pocket.

          • Wendy Colby

            Ordinarily I would agree but this guy went to the news to get this cop fired;that’s exactly what would have happened if he hadn’t had the camera rolling.Jones needs to be fired.Would you trust that he didn’t steal your safe when there was a fire in your home?Would you believe his word that it was too dangerous to get the baby out? Not me.Fire him.

      • Kevin Slack

        The rotten apples don’t fall far from the rotten apple tree ! Like fathers like sons !!

    • Irene Cooper

      agree

  • RhetoricalQuestion

    It’s OAKLAND. I’m surprised that a white cop is even patrolling the streets. That takes some serious cahones, and it’s awesome he had a camera rolling to stop the lies dead in their tracks.

    • sherry8260

      You got that right. It’s dangerous for whitey to even drive on the freeway PASSED Oakland. During the ’89 Loma Prieta quake the blacks were robbing the victims stuck in the cars under the collapsed freeway and under houses. It’s the second highest murder rate in the US behind Detroit and that’s only because its smaller.

  • C.d. Gibson

    The lying sack of crap should be fired. THIS is why racism still exists in our country today. It isn’t white on black, it’s the other way around.

    • Irene Cooper

      agree…

    • Just me

      I agree this guy was wrong and should be punished…however, “THIS” is not the reason racist still exists today. It exists in part because of people’s unwillingness to change their thought process, therefore not allowing growth or maturity. It exists in part because of the people’s refusal to accept others.

      • David McPherson

        Shut up!!!!! You really believe that crap spewing out of your pie hole? Racism exist today simply because it is kept in the spotlight by actions like this.
        Let me answer the question before it is even asked……… Yes I am a racist to the following extreme……. If you were not born in America…regardless of your skin color…..get the hell out and stay out! is that to racist for you liberal minded hypocrites?
        Face it, the dude lied, and tried to make an honest police officer, who was just doing his job, into the next media “racist”. But he just did not know that the policeman was a firm believer in CYA. “Cover Your Ass” and had his lapel camera recording.. NICE OFFICER!!!!

        • Bradley Dugas

          David, That’s part of it, the race baiting keeps people hooked on the feeling, the momentum, which leads them away from different thinking,

        • WTF

          Following your logic of course, yeah only Native Americans should be allowed, screw those bastards who came over in their boats… I mean do you actually hear yourself?

          • John R Willis

            Deal with the here and now, you idiot. If you go far enough back in history, even the “Native Americans” were immigrants here from somewhere else ! Do you hear yourself ?

      • Karrdeful

        This is EXACTLY why racism still exists today! Did you forget that he is teaching his kids, first hand, how to be race baiters? He is teaching them that it’s ok to lie so long as whitey is the one who gets in trouble.

        This is exactly why racism still exists today.

    • JO

      It’s both

  • danl

    Well….since Mr. Jones wanted to make false statements about the officer, the officer should make an example of him and file a defimation of character suit. What’s good for one is good for all.

  • Shoathree

    I think the news station that did the story with the black guy should now do the story playing the cops video cam for everybody to see. Who’s the real racist in this story??? Not the white cop but the black fireman and he should either be fired for a false claim or given the chance to go on the news and admit he lied and apologize.

    • Mike

      Won’t happen. Al and Jesse along with the NAACP will claim the body cam is fake.

    • Cathy Jones

      I agree but doubt they will.

  • Belinda Ann Rozar

    Jones should be fired for outright lying!! He made career ending accusations, therefore HIS career should end!

  • jeffmunisteri

    He Should be sued for Defamation of Character, and a race baiter,,,

  • Doug Messick

    He lied, the firefighter lied…he needs to find another job.

  • Joe Milo

    He could have ruined this officers career with these false claims, he should be fired to show his children what could happen when you lie, also a full public apology to this officer.

  • Della James

    The only thing that did save the office that was doing his job right was the camera he wore. It is a shame that anyone would use Race to spread Hate,,, Excuse me But those that do call Racist at every turn they think they can get any reaction are the most Racist Bigots out there! and He/or Whoever acts this way is teaching their children the same!

  • Robert Madsen

    The black man is a RACIST! He needs to be fired for attempting to slur the white officer. He even has his kids believing his racist lie.Good parenting job.

    • CaneRVa

      The cop should sue him for defamation.

  • Charles Morlan

    Making false statments to officers of the court is a crime, I see jail time in Mr Jones future

    • sherry8260

      Excellent point.

    • Randall Steven

      true, but he didn’t lie to the officer. he lied to the news crew and those vultures ate it up

      • Charles Morlan

        he files a law suit if he If he filed a deposition and lied in it it its purgery

      • DirtyWhiteBoy8

        He filed a complaint = giving a false statement on an officer of the court .

        • Randall Steven

          touche

      • Korban Dallas

        Next time read the story and listen to the news story before commenting. He filed a false complaint with the Oakland Police Dept. That is a crime.

    • Wedge

      I can only pray this pos will do time! kids need to go to foster care, and not family. They will just teach them that daddy was trying to protect them with his lying bullshit

  • scott

    he should be fired and prosecuted for false statements against an officer

  • DirtyWhiteBoy8

    I’m a veteran Firefighter , he should be fired on the spot ! He lied on a fellow public servant and disgraced his uniform and his department with behavior unbecoming . That cop was just doing his job and that guy was trying to get him fired .

    • Wedge

      what do you want to bet, nothing will happen to this pos? Any takers, want to pick squares on punishment?

      • George Frayer

        The same as nothing will happen to Obama over Benghazi. I bet Hillary will take all the heat.

        • Matthew Lee Franks

          I think putting the obligation of placing which Security level should be in effect on an unschooled Politician is stupid. This should be the Job of Location Security which in this case would be the Marines and the CIA. On the other hand, I wonder when the Americans will all wake up and take a look at the truth. Watch Zeitgeist.

        • John R Willis

          As much as I’d like to watch Obama burn for all the damage he’s done to our Country, watching Hillary burn for Benghazi will do just fine, especially after that statement she made , “What difference does it make ? ” !

  • Mike

    Fire his lying ass

  • Aaron

    Jones should be at the very least suspended without pay and made to give a formal, public apology to the officer for doing his job.

  • Schr0dingersD0g

    So a black guy lied about a white cop and alleged racist undertones? What’s new?

    • Tom Slick

      If their blue gums are flapping, they’re lying.

  • john

    im sure al and jesse will figure a way to show this as a racist cop

  • Patti King

    Fire him for filing a false report! He apparently was trying to make a name for himself with Sharpton to stir the race pot! He tried to get the Cop fired so it should backfire on him!

  • Jenn Komansky

    He should be FIRED..The cop did EVERYTHING by the book, apologized told the kids it was ok…..I guess this idiot just wanted attention…..seems like the blacks (NOT ALL) need to make things racist….but when a black beats up a white it’s not racist BS

    • Wedge

      9 out of 10 think that the world owes them something and whitie needs to do the paying! Slavery remember.. oh hell how can you forget its only brought up every hour of every day!

    • GeniusInExile

      I don’t think he wanted attention. I think he wanted a big payout from the city for his “suffering” at the hands of the big bad racist police officer. He didn’t give a damn about how his false accusations would destroy the police officer’s career, he just wanted money for nothing.

      • Jenn Komansky

        Your right

  • Not Anonymous

    Wow this fireman and his kids are liars.

    • mary witte

      yeah but these kids learned from their father maybe this will show the what a lie can cause

      • Wedge

        no, it’ll show them that now they have a reason to hate cops and whitie, and theylll murder a few people 10 years from now and blame this cop for all the misery in there pathjetic lives

  • rabak-kabar

    He should at least get a beer summit with the President. Obviously a teaching moment here. And that tape should be played over and over on the local T.V. with the stations apologies to the police officer.

  • sherry8260

    It won’t happen. The liberals are still in charge. Our local news stations are so left leaning that I haven’t been able to stomach watching any of them for at least ten years. It’s even hard to go to the websites. So I really honestly doubt anymore will come of this at all. If it does, I certainly won’t hear about it and I’m just 30 miles north of Oakland.

  • Tony Sanchez

    The cop was doing his job. Stop with the racism, blacks.

  • Thomas Cole

    I have never had a cop apologize to me and this cop apologized three times and all he was doing was his job.

  • paulagreve

    What about the example he set for his sons? He taught them how to lie, how to accuse a white person of being racist and caused them to fear white police officers for no reason. I hope all white police officers start wearing lapel cameras, I know our police force has ordered over $200,000 worth of them since Ferguson for this exact reason. The media loves a good racism story, it’s like alien babies on the cover of the National Enquirer, it sure gives the media a black eye in this case.

    • Guest

      Did Al Sharpton ever apologize in the Tawana Brawly case?

      • Ray

        No he did not! !!

      • Wedge

        Hell no he didn’t! that race baiting pimp, worthless pos .. that’s not so sharp sharpton

    • Karrdeful

      You know, I’ve said for a long time that police officers should wear cameras, and the video be available to parties involved to protect the citizens. But the more I see from cops wearing camera’s… the more I think the majority of them need cameras to protect themselves from us.

  • OzCop

    He should be fired, but should also be charged for filing a false report…I have been a training officer in years past, and this young cop did everything by the book. I see absolutely nothing that should have caused the fireman to take the action he took…pathetic…

    • Susan

      Yes. And firing for cause would cause his pension to go bye bye. Which is appropriate justice for lying about a fellow public servant.

  • Randall Steven

    let’s be real people. the officer’s cam speaks volumes and it’s not some misconstrued, edited version. I think the firefighter should have some sort of censure on his permanent record at a minimum but fired is a bit extreme.. he probably saw a chance at a payday and went for it. doesn’t make him a bad fireman or father necessarily.. though i’d like to hear the chat he has with his boys about not twisting the story for a camera. both departmens should squash any paperwork about it and he SHOULD apologize to the cop in private at the very least. seems like his ambulance chasing lawyer dumped him too already. Also sounds like the noob cop is already big boy enough to let it go too, defamation of character..really? the news station should certainly air the true story as well. but then again, we live in wonderland now, reality doesn’t apply.

    • DirtyWhiteBoy8

      I wouldn’t want to work with this guy . You have got to be a liberal !

      • Randall Steven

        i’m as far from a liberal/progressive as the atlantic is from the pacific. It’s just my opinion man. neither video shows “everything” – including the complaint paperwork blah blah submitted after the event. if firing of the ff dude is warranted by people in the know, then i’m all for it.. i myself just don’t know all the facts at hand, and i refuse to be as presumptuous as the idiots that made this “news”. but hey good news, you don’t have to work with him

        • ShamanBlair

          Or you, for which I thank God. (facepalm)

      • Randall Steven

        bah, i get it now. you’re trolling for fish. have fun with that.

        • DirtyWhiteBoy8

          Firefighter , not a fisherman . Just calling it like I see it .

          • Randall Steven

            ok. what’s your department and region?

          • Randall Steven

            i’m no firefighter myself. i can’t look up anything. i think there might be some interested people who do have access though. tell them your credentials anything that isn’t private info.. maybe an employee code or something

          • Randall Steven

            Like you see it or how you want to see it? You’re a fraud, brother.

    • Susan

      He made a false statement. He lied not once, but repeatedly during his interview. He accused his fellow public servant of something that can be career ending in a place like Oakland. I used to be a firefighter (I moved onto something a lot more lucrative but less fun). In my opinion he should be fired. Perhaps prosecuted for false charges. And if he’s fired he will lose his pension. Which would be appropriate. I think Mr. Jones was expecting special treatment because he is a firefighter, and didn’t get it, and was pissed.

      A lot of rules don’t apply if you’re in the right ‘club’ and he never thought that being out of uniform meant he wasn’t automatically recognized as being in the club. Just saying so isn’t enough to get a cop to believe you, which Mr. Jones obviously didn’t think about, because he’s not a cop. Good for the cop to be polite but still require ID. What if Mr. Jones HAD been a thief and was armed?? Then we’d never hear about yet another dead cop.

    • ShamanBlair

      At the VERY least it makes him a rotten father, as he’s corrupted his sons, teaching them to LIE, & to hate with racism!

      Firing is PERFECTLY appropriate for him, as THAT is what HE meant to happen to the cop! “Harsh?” The cop’s career COULD have ended, just on this one accusation, losing him HIS career!!! How “harsh” do you think THAT is?!

      Apologize “in PRIVATE?” Why the hell in PRIVATE?! H surely didn’t ACCUSE him in PRIVATE! People are bringing back shame, & for good reason! For too long, it’s been an “I’m okay, you’re okay, don’t judge ME” world, & we can SEE where that lazy philosophy has led us. It stops. NOW. And YES, of COURSE, defamation of character! What ELSE can it be called?

      YOU can reside in “wonderland if you’re that amoral & stupid, but just going by the REST of the letters here, WE DON’T want to live next to a twit such as YOU! You sound like the typical liberal idiot. I’ve got NEWS for you–“reality” is something with which YOU had better soon become acquainted, because it’s about to bite you on your lazy hind end.

  • Joanne Fresta

    The officer DID apologize. More than once !! He distinctly said “Sorry about that”, “Sorry for the scare”, and you can here Mr. Jones reply “No problem, no problem”. There is no need for ANY public apology …he was doing his job. If any public apology is ordered …it should be by Mr. Jones!

  • asdf

    Looks like a racist father has taught his children to be racist and distrustful of police. That or that 9 year old is the biggest little wus on the planet.
    Oh, that and Keith Jones is a liar and should be disciplined by his firehouse and sued civilly by the police officer.

  • mercedmann2013

    I think you should put out more updated news then something this old, and if you do at least do some follow up on what is happening in this case NOW. Old news = yawn.

  • Cathy Jones

    The proof is there. He out and out lied about it. The officer clearly apologized 3 times. I honestly don’t see a thing here that would suggest the officer was profiling him because he was black. Reminds me of another story I read about today; Daniele Watts, a black actress accused L.A. police officers of profiling her. I felt so sorry for her until I saw the actual video on TMZ. Nothing indicated racism there either. I’m just trying to understand where this sense of victimhood comes from. Can’t police officers do their jobs without this type of harassment? I can understand a legitimate complaint but not this race baiting that seems to be trending.

  • Mary Curry

    Are we sure the firefighter was not the one doing the burglary? Seems funny that he would be walking right by the firehouse. No One with any sense walks after dark in Oakland unless they are doing something illegal.

    • DirtyWhiteBoy8

      It wasn’t a burglary . The engine was out on a run and they left the door open .

      • Susan

        Nope, I’ve never forgotten to hit the door remote, not once ever….how bout you..? 😉

        Never ran over a clipboard when I left it on the bumper either…

    • Susan

      He parked his truck in the fire station parking lot so he and his boys could walk to the game. They were walking back after the game.

  • uglyamerican

    While I still regard most firefighters as the bravest and best people in all the world, honesty goes with that too. If Jones isn’t honest about an incident which was captured on the cop’s body-cam, heaven knows what else he might not be honest about.
    Being a public hero goes with being honest. Fire Jones immediately! We certainly don’t need racists of any color in that kind of job.

    • DirtyWhiteBoy8

      Thanks ugly, I’ll take that as a complement . I have a lot of black cop friends and they know I would put my a zz on the line for them just like I would anybody else . You can’t see color in this job , just need .

      • uglyamerican

        Anyone brave enough to run into a burning building to save lives has my vote! To do it on a regular basis as a job is either crazy or a very fine person…or both, LOL. If your job is to protect people from what others fear, racism can’t be a part of that. I can’t help but see cops and firemen as “good guys” just by the nature of their career choice.
        And yes, that is a very heart-felt compliment!

        • Jennie Dentice

          Guess this gut was crazy then,mas he certainly isn’t very fine

  • Bonione

    What an example Jones has set for his sons lying about the whole incident. And of course the TV station won’t report the truth will they? If Jones filed a complaint, than he should pay the penalty for doing so.

  • Joe Torres

    What a typical “VICTIM”!!!

  • ann

    An officer responds to a report of a burglary and he should just take someone’s word for it that it’s OK? Don’t think so! The fire fighter is making a big deal out of it…the cop is following procedure. Once the officer knew it was safe he did say sorry. The fire fighter said no problem but then goes to the news?? For what reason except to get attention. That’s called race baiting. The cop would have done the same exact thing if the fire fighter had been white!

  • Jackie Gene

    Teaching his children to carry on with racism, This is so sad,

  • Marie Hicks

    Should be a HATE CRIME!!!

  • Donald D Conley

    Thought he might make some money from the PD if he accused the cop of being racist…Sorry lier!!

  • ChrisinOregon

    Wonder what MR JONES is thinking right about now?????? I am so glad that police officer had a camera on his person…..or we would be reading a whole different version of this and wondering what the REAL TRUTH was. Is AL on his way there? NO WAY……

  • ED

    REALLY HATE TO SAY IT BUT I AM ON THE COPS SIDE ON THIS ONE

  • Sgt. EZ

    Well let’s see(1) file felony charges of filing a false report (2) fired from his job and have his certificates revoked? (3) have his kids apologize to the cop publicly (4) have federal hate crimes filed against him and finally take him to civil court and sue him for attacking his character on public TV. Oh and banned for life working as a fire fighter in CA.

  • Stephanie Patterson

    I agree with everyone else a Firefighter has a certain code of ethics and this one has blatantly lied and made false accusations against a police officer. The officer was doing his job, did not step out of line and operated by the book. The Fire fighter should loose his job and be sued for slander.

  • Sarah Mahala

    Well, who would have thought it??? A liar and a racist who just happens to be black. Isn’t he just a wonderful example for his two sons, teaching them how to lie against whitie and teaching them racism. He needs to be fired for lying about a white officer only doing his job. If not for the body cam, he would probably have sued the city for millions for the “emotional damage and distress” to his sons who will probably use his lying, racist example to become just like their father. The officer could have very well have lost his job because of his lies. He most certainly should lose his job for trying to get a police officer in trouble when he was only doing his job. I used to wonder if absent fathers might be part of the problem with the black community when it comes to mothers trying to bring their children up alone. Now I have to wonder if in some cases they might be just as well off if they have an absent father. Fathers and mothers of any race need to do the best they can to bring their children up to respect one another and respect the law. There might be less crime if they did. There might even be less racism in all races.

  • Robin Renee

    Mr. Jones needs to be fired. He should be ashamed of himself for lying and then having his kids go along w/ the lie. I bet he sits around his house and calls whites crackers, honkeys, etc and his kids hear this. The body cam showed a different story. Now I think ALL officers should have them. Just in case someone else pulls the race card like this. He thought nothing of destroying this young mans reputation and job over a lie. Now this liar needs to lose his job.

    • Lyndy Hair

      Someone else did. A pastor from Salisbury, NC (Reverend Bill Godair),
      claims he was mistreated by a Salisbury Police Officer when he was
      stopped for speeding a year ago. The pastor said his wife was in the car and
      scared. Officer was wearing a body cam which contradicts the pastor’s
      story. Here’s the link.

      http://www.wbtv.com/story/26364569/video-obtained-after-pastor-naacp-claim-police-mistreatment

      • Robin Renee

        Yeah, I saw that too… he is NO man of God to lie like he did. We all know why he did that. I wouldn’t go to that church and the man even has a FB page…. I went to that and called him out on his lie as well… I saw that video where he claimed the officer mistreated him. He needs to apologize and I hope the officer sues him and takes all he has.

        • Lyndy Hair

          What gets me is how everyone is quick to blame the police for something based on hearsay or a video without audio, or interpret what they see from a distance as gospel. My son is medically retired for injuries sustained in the line of duty after 14 years on the force. He was never without his body cam and it has saved his career.

          Catching 2 in lies and deceptions is the start of bigger things to come.

  • Bonnie Hayslett

    This proves that police body cams are good for everyone involved. I think in light of the recent events in Mo, and other places, he was right to be concerned for the safety of his children, who were forced to stand with their hands up. Yes, maybe the policeman was just doing his job, but body cams are the best way to sort out good cops from bad.

    • Lyndy Hair

      I agree, all officers should wear body cams.

      As for being concerned for his children’s safety, I don’t buy it. I don’t care what’s going on anywhere else, if he was that concerned he should have called 911 himself instead of taking his sons inside where there was a possibility a burglar was in the building, to make sure everything was secured. He put his own sons in jeopardy long before the officer responded to a possible burglary on the premises.

  • Yenski

    If the kids were traumatised due to this, he has weak kids that get traumatised over anything.

  • Barbara Burke-Orsino

    Hmmm…..let’s see, what would have happened to the officer had he not had a camera? More lies, probably death threats, suspension without pay, then, fired and ran out of the city! On top of his lying, he had his two boys lie and is starting the cycle of racism all over again! My daughter would have NEVER gone along with me if I tried something like that…I taught her to think for herself, do what’s right and, that police officers PROTECT us and MOST are good people. I also taught her that firemen are good too…she has an uncle who is a good man and a fireman! I still believe that just not this fireman! He needs to go! How do you do this kind of thing? He would have ruined this officer’s life without a care…but honestly two wrongs do not make a right.

    • Jennie Dentice

      This is an excellent example of why we need all officers to wear cameras.ncovers a zzz and would help keep on bedtime behavior too. 😉

  • Sam2001

    He told the kids to relax, other than the first few seconds… everyone seemed cool and professional. So what’s the fire fighter’s real complaint????

    • Lyndy Hair

      Read the article again. The fire fighter didn’t count on the officer wearing a body cam so he lied on the events that took place and had his children lie, not only to the police but on t.v. also. He had no complaint. He made it up. He lied. Hoping for a money settlement.

      He should be fired, charged with a hate crime and Child Protection Services should step in.

  • mary witte

    the lie was bad enough but to teach his kids to lie and to be racist this is beyond bad parenting

  • Christine Bodor

    The cop followed protocol did he not ? He did not know Jones being in civilian clothes. yeah he scared the kids but it was an unfortunate situation. The fire fighter Jones LIED about the cop saying he is sorry. He said sorry THREE times ! ugh ! At first Jones had my sympathy that it was sad and cruel listening to the boys cry but then the cam shows the audio that he did in fact say he was sorry and he did the right thing…responding to a call which is his job ! If you lie then you are not credible in my book I dont care what race you are ! nuff said !

  • john brothers

    He should be fired! He surely lost all respect in the firehouse. Loser!

  • Roberta Thurman

    Just looking at Jones and his children and hearing them speak They were very convincing. I am so happy for this officer that Jones did not accomplish his evil intent. And I think it is very sad that he had his children participate in his crime.

  • Wiggle D

    What reason is there for him to lie? If he is purposely lying he should be charged and fired. If he is a compulsive liar he should be discharged and barred from all firefighting and police work for being unfit.

    • Lyndy Hair

      Money. He thought he had an opportunity to cash in. With all the unrest going on in other parts of the nation the thought this was an easy paycheck.

      Whatever the reason were, he should be fired, banned from ever working as a firefighters, charged ad child protection services step in.

  • Ross RoscoRulez Pool

    Jones should be fired. He is a liar! Surprise, the cop has a camera, proving everything you said is a big fat lie! The punk is trying to get himself some TV time by stirring the racial pot and screaming fire. Firefighters are supposed to be men of integrity, honor, bravery. This guy is just another hood punk trying to attract attention by lying to the public, news media and police. Great example you set for your children, making them accessories by telling them to lie for you too. What is our world coming to? This “man” should be suspended without pay and the city should review this case and decide if this is the type of man (a proven liar) we want protecting our citizens.

  • Quintin Trout

    Jones should be fired and then charged with filing a false report!!! The cop should sue him for defamation and Jones should be made to go back on tv and apologize to the officer!!!

  • IdahoGirl

    This is what is wrong with our country! They are on this “racist” bandwagon & are going to milk it for everything they can – honest & integrity are a dying virtue. That guy should lose his job!

  • Pamela Wilson

    i agree with hexxuss…jones should fired. my brother is a cop in california and i am so tired of all cops being labeled as jerks (which is putting it mildly). i know that my brother and his brothers and sisters in the department are good cops and we don’t need any people like jones claiming that they were discriminated against.

  • lstarr55

    The firefighter should be fired, his children probably need therapy just to get past having their dad drag them into his lies, and the tv station should be required to air the actual video and apologize for their actions.

  • abaton7

    Great example to set for your kids there Mr. Jones.

  • Tarantula2

    What should happen to Jones? The question is what WILL happen to Jones. The answer is: nothing. He’s a member of a protected class and the cop, by definition (ie: white) is a racist.

  • Delano Corbin

    I am also a veteran Firefighter, he should be fired, he is a disgrace to the uniform, Its called

    unbecoming of an Oakland firefighter. He sits there on national TV and LIES about the hole incident, and if that is not bad enough his two little Klan’s men lie along with good old dad ( nice way to raise a set of racist ).

    This is a great example of how, the blacks can say and accuse the white race of any type of harassment or racial discrimination and bad whitey is guilty until proven innocent. Jones and the liberal (I don’t care about the true) channel 5 news anchors need to go on the evening news and apologize to the police officer for being 100% wrong. Jones need to admit that he is a racist and that he made the hole thing up to screw over the white police officer, also that he was going to steal money from the city of Oakland by filing a fraudulent law suite.

    YOU GOT CAUGHT YOU SCUM BAG, and I love it! But don’t worry about losing your job or being suspended because this to will swept under the rug by the higher ups because the black race cannot be racist. Its people like you Mr. Jones that keep racism alive.

  • Jim Bolla

    Bust him

  • Peter Kay

    for once im proud of an officer…Jones should be openly ridiculed talked about and disgraced….make him the new poster child of race baiting

  • Pluffmud Girl

    The magnetic strip on that damn race card is starting to malfunction.

  • Charisse Busack O’Brien

    The cop did everything right. And he DID apologize. The firefighter should be fired.

  • EastValleyConservative

    Given the media firestorm that he tried to ignite there, charges aren’t out of the question. He should be fired. And I feel bad for his kids since he is indoctrinating them with that obvious crap.

  • Tinaw1969

    Jones should be fired for false accusations towards an officer! He was trying to get away with this crap, and for what? Get his 5 min of fame? Thank God he had that camara! Otherwise, they would have painted him a racist cop and he would have lost his job! I can only imagine how many other times it has happened to these officers trying to do their job! People aren’t going to want to be cops soon!

  • ShamanBlair

    What a putrid example this firefighter set for his boys, whom he either made or encouraged to lie–as HE lied!–to their shame. I wonder if HE’s ashamed? Maybe that he got CAUGHT…. Maybe that’s the reason he’s NOW “camera shy….” The city should take him out of his position, because he’s proven he can’t be trusted. What ELSE will (or has) he lie(d) about? Getting to a fire in time? hIS RACISM? Really rescuing people & property? Or just CYSing his way through his job?

    I have to wonder what his motive was for doing this. What did lying stand to gain for him? Did he want a local “protest” (read: rioting & looting ala Ferguson) that left everyone harmed? There are probably easier ways to meet the “Just-Us Brothers,” if THAT was his goal…. Did he just feel racial hatred for a WHITE man (or cops in general) Or WHAT? He makes zero SENSE, to me.

    How are the local media reacting NOW? I think they’re probably too embarrassed at having been caught being USED by this twit, to apologize & set the record straight. Until they DO, it’s not only possible, but even LIKELY another round of BS comes from the PC crowd about “cracking down” on cops.

    My praises for the young cop, whom I’d be happy to deal with any time, as he DOES follow protocol, & was VERY polite & nice about his work. I hope this is blotted off his record, as it’s obviously unfair, judging from the videos! He’s yet another hero I’d like to clone!

  • POTUS mime

    good thing they have the body cams. Otherwise, this cop would be labeled a bad guy.

  • POTUS mime

    I think they should go out for a round of golf and a beer…oh wait…never mind.

  • Ali Whiting

    This man needs to be fired. Conduct unbecoming. Seriously, one civil servant lies to make another civil servant look bad? The town should absolutely fire this guy.

  • aquafuji

    so Mr Jones pills that the perception of the cop by his kids is a traumatic one stop to think as kids should be traumatized by the fact that he made them lie on local t.v. the new station should be held accountable just as much as Mr Jone should be both of which should be charged with defamation of character made to make a public apology. while standing face to face with the police officer and shaking his hand. Jones should be terminated from his position uniform and Fire Department as well as the city of Oakland. I love the fact that finally it’s not the whites being accused of racismand that racism stems from anybody of any color. Unfortunately only white people are painted as racist and according to the Baltimore sheriff candidate David Wiggins only whites are the most violent people on the planet.

  • jody garrett

    False information….this a$$hole knows better too. And teaching his kids this BS. What’s the friggin deal? Racist.

  • Victoria

    I am sick and tired of people who are white being discriminated against, accused of racism and people such as mr jones trying to get his moment of fame & possible money from a phony lawsuit! Mr Jones should be suspended from his job, & the police officer who was publicly wrongly accussed should get a public apology from mr jones and mr jones should be made to pay restitution because an
    internal affairs investigation will be on the officer’s permanent record!

  • Hank Wilson

    That is the main reason why police should be required to wear cameras.

  • Hank Wilson

    And by the way, where is that D. Wilson Police report, you know the cop from Ferguson, MO; we have not send that yet.

  • US citizen

    So the police officer apologizes and Jones says, “that’s ok” and the officer says sorry again for scaring his kids. Then Jones decides file a complaint against the officer for doing his job, and Jones says the officer tramatizes his kids. Give me a stinking break.
    What a jerk Jones is for making up something that’s not even there.

  • Todd Amend

    His sorry black ass should be fired and there should be charges of falsifying a report and be sued for slander.

  • valerie

    in the video jones tells the cop ‘no problem’ which only makes me think that when he got home and told friends or family about what happened – they put racists thoughts in his head. now with the cops video out he needs to apologize immediately, not only to the offier but also the OFD and the people of oakland. bet his kids are going to hear alot of
    ‘your dads a liar’ in school – think that is going to be more harmful to those boys than what took place with the cop. he should have used the situation to explain to his boys that the officer didn’t know who they were at first, so dad did as he was instructed and no harm came to anyone. that would have been a better thing to teach them instead of how to use the race card – and it’s not nice to teach your kids to lie. the OFD should suspend him, without pay for a few days and make sure he apologizes on TV. then he needs to apologize to his boys and let them know HIS punishment for telling a lie.

  • David E Wood

    I say we arrest all peace officers and see how theyvlike a county lid or life in prison Amen

  • psiEnergos

    I will acknowledge there are some bad eggs out there, but when incidents like this occur, makes you wonder how many OTHER times false reports have been made that everyone has just believed because they don’t like the police. It’s good to see vindication when it’s due.

  • sdevil84

    Where is the follow up story and the defamation of character Lawsuit against the liar…..I hope the Fire Chief called back the Police Chief and apologized….and the man fired

  • Jeff Claiborne

    I wonder how many times white cops have been falsely accused by black racists?

  • Unkie Numbnuts

    Fired for lying and charged with a hate crime for his racist terrorism actions.

  • Jamie Anne Niles

    This is so sad. Of course the kids would be scared, they don’t know what is going on. Shame on the dad for making it sound like he was afraid that the cop would gun down him and his kids. Police have a tough job as it is without having this kind of stuff thrown at them. Chances are though if Jones gets fired, he’ll still find some way to turn it around so he doesn’t take responsibility for his actions and the kids will suffer because their dad is unemployed. What a jerk.

  • Lynne McKinney Wiser

    well I think that it was a really good thing that the cop had a body camera.. I think this fireman has some explaining to do to his two young boys. Everyone needs to stop and think about the fact it was reported as a possible burglary and that the the officer needs to clear that first and foremost no matter who it is or what color… Honestly a white man or woman might feel the same…. that they had the right to be be there and were being responsible and closing up….and this cop makes them and their kids put their hands up and the kids get scared…any one in this position might feel they were singled out. With so much media showing constantly this white on black stuff it went there…I hope that it was not intentional on this fireman’s part.. that he just got carried away by this current um…media storm on the matter….if he knows he fibbed intentionally then he should own up to it for his boys sake and make the needed apologies…honestly for everyone’s sake but most definitely his kids…Personally I think cops should all wear cameras…for their safety and so that the moment of contact with someone you have what was actually said or done…Just think how different that could of been in some of the recently highlighted cases of racial issues in question…no matter what color the cop or the public are the truth would be there…as for punishment I think this will be more than enough as everyone now in his community knows he has either lied or got way carried away, really away…I am thinking the cop will be able to acknowledge a sincere apology from him and move on…

  • Imtoooldforthis

    The firefighter needs to be fired. He was never mistreated and he decided to lie for his 15 minutes of fame and to further his racist agenda.

  • Renee

    He filed a false report first of all…which is against the law. Then he was slanderous to another person which you can be sued for. Which I believe falls under slander and or defamation of character . I’m sure not much if anything will happen to this “man” for his shenanigans. It’s just sad to me that people, not just black or white but every race, are so horrible to each other. Grow the f@$% up and stop creating drama. There is enough bs in the world, why are we adding to it? Stop thinking that everyone else owes you something just because you got handed a raw deal. Man up!

  • tonyvee

    he should be fired arrested

  • Greg Miller

    Not sure why he would lie to the media about this, maybe you people should ask him.

    • Kile

      I would say because he’s a racist opportunist.

  • Jim Warrillow

    I think the Black Gentleman saw what he thought was a good opportunity to make some money playing the race card.

  • pokenhorn

    This lying dog black guy came close to getting the white officer fired. Nothing much new here I suspect. Just exercising the skills he learned from Sharpton, Jackson, Holder, and obama.

  • JoeBideyourtime

    Doesn’t this come under the heading of filing a false police report?

  • Jon Palermo

    Jones should be sued civilly for libel and slander by the officer then charged with filing a false complaint!

  • Bill Faro

    what else has he lied about? Would you trust him in your home if it was on fire? The seed he planted is now a weed in his garden.

  • Deacon Davis

    That firefighter needs to be fired and sued for slander.

  • Rick

    Fire him and take his children as he is not a good role model.

  • BusyMomOf7

    Typical. Blacks are so quick to claim racism… so WHO are the racists? This one was looking for a payoff. Again, typical.

  • Amy L. Porod-Christen

    I wouldn’t work with Jones anymore, he has shown that he’s completely untrustworthy. And great job of showing your sons integrity. More AL Sharpton’s in the making thanks to dad.

  • Terri C Harris

    He should be arrested for filing a false report. Just like anyone else would, and Made to apologies to his kids and the officer!!!

  • avengeflipper

    How dare the cop stop him. He was a firefighter there with his kids!

    I’m guessing that is what the fireman was thinking. This perceived injustice clouded his view of what was and was not racism. This is why body cams are so important.

    Have you ever been to the same event as someone in your family and/or friend group, but later described the event completely differently than they did. Our perceptions and emotions color memories. The firefighter, whether he cares to admit it or not, has a lot of racism flowing through his thoughts. He interpreted an event to be race motivated that clearly was not. In doing so, he almost cost another man his job,

    It should give pause to people who automatically assume white cops are racists. If you think that, you are more likely to interpret their actions as racist when they are not.

  • Truicki12

    Since they are both city employees, Jones should have to go through the same suspension and “sensitivity” training that the officer would have been subjected to. Did anyone think to cancel Al Sharpton ??

  • gbp91

    wow, and the media portrays white cops ? unmitigated mess fueled by a culture that needs changing

  • Clarence

    At the least he should be charged for falsifying an official report and placed on unpaid administrative leave

  • gbp91

    this is a clear example of the culture in the black community that lies? what can the firefighter say now? nothing. even an apology would be lame at this point and time

  • Just Some Dude

    Let’s not forget to put blame on the news station as well, for reporting this bogus story without apparently doing any fact-checking. News we “can only see on KPIX 5!” Nice one, jackasses.

    • Ed

      Agreed, the ‘media’ convicted the office before he got to hear his side. Had they ‘investigated’ like they should have, this would not even be an issue… but in one sense it brought out the truth, not the truth of the camera but the truth of fear. As I said in my post, Mr. Jones was probably scared for his kids and they were his ONLY thoughts. Everything that he said were his thoughts of what could have happened, that doesn’t make him a racist. Also as I said, they should meet in private, all 4 of them, Johns should apologize in front of his boys and they ALL should forgive each other.

  • James Berry

    There is racism from every corner. It’s not limited to just one race against another one race. That’s one of the problems in today’s society. Each race has some people claiming they are the only victims, while denying that happens in reverse. This man, Keith Jones, has perpetrated a crime against another human by claiming racism. It seems he coached his sons to back up his story as well. I have no doubts that the kids were genuinely frightened, that’s the nature of kids. But their father is leading them down a road that will only add to the problem.

    If Mr. Jones is disciplined, as he should be, then who knows what he’ll teach his two sons about the consequences? Will he blame this officer for his rightly given disciplinary actions? I would think he probably will given his previous on camera interview. Kids learn from those closest to them, be it parents, other relatives or friends.

    It’s a sad world we inhabit because we as humans(in general) make it sad. I hope these two kids can come to see through the facade that their dad has constructed and those of us that fight against racism, no matter the color of someone’s skin.

    • Ed

      Amen!

  • Ed

    Nothing should happen. The two should meet, discuss and forgive. Jones Saw what he saw because it was dark and he probably feared for his kids more than anything else. The officer did everything by the book.

    Lord, Hate (or racism) will be washed away by You, Let these med meet and forgive as You would desire! In Jesus name, Amen

    • bobalouski

      That would be a huge waste of time. What if the officer had not been wearing the cam? He’d be out on the street and the firefighter would file a lawsuit.

      • Ed

        You’re right… but let’s not play the ‘media’ game of not having all the facts before conviction. The ‘fact’ is, he had a cam… the fact is, Mr. Jones AND his boys were scared.

        Let’s not complicate an already complicated world with ‘what if’.

        • Pat M

          The fact is also that Mr. Jones filed a trumped up complaint against the officer, and went to the media with a bunch of exaggerations and outright lies. If the officer HADN’T had the camera on, who knows what sort of trouble he’d be in when he’d done nothing wrong. The firefighter should at least get a suspension out of it – it shouldn’t be allowed to go without consequence. Perhaps if more people faced some sort of negative repercussion when they did this sort of thing, fewer would do so.

          • Ed

            Don’t you think having to face his children with all the embarrassment is enough?

          • Pat M

            No, I don’t. He used his children to lie to further his cause – I don’t think he has any shame. He tried to ruin a man’s career – he should be slapped down HARD for doing so.

    • Lesley Hughes

      Jones LIED, and encouraged his children to view police as bad…imagine if Jones had said to his two boys, “It’s ok, the police officer was doing exactly what we ask him to do..he had no idea if we were bad guys robbing the fire department…makes you feel safer now I hope, knowing that we have such GOOD police officers protecting us .” but no…instead, he encourages his children to feel victimized..and then reports the officer for horrid racist behavior..all lies…sure Jones should be forgiven his lies…if he is repentent of them…and just as publically vindicates the officer….and then take his firing from his job as a just consequence of his behaviors…

  • Flex

    He should be arrested and thrown in jail for 15-20 years. It’s the only way to stop these savages. How many cops have gotten in trouble for this crap bc they weren’t wearing a camera and the savage was lying.

  • Kile

    At least he was smarter than a Harvard professor and produced his ID.

  • Tim Smith

    so busted. Jones needs to apologize. everything he said to the news was a lie concerning the cop

  • Calibabe712

    This firefighter is a disgrace to his profession. The fire department should immediately suspend him pending a review of his conduct. Upon completion of their review the fire fighter and the officer should be at a press conference held by the fire department who will then have the accuser issue his public apology to the officer. At that point the fire department should then fire this race baiter

  • James N. Cooper

    nothing will happen – maybe he needs some reality training .

  • MerlinGuy

    This is the prime example of why we should not pay attention to the news media until after all the facts have been presented in a situation. The officer followed protocol and did his job. The person of interest, should never have crossed the line of making false allegations against that officer. That is also a very bad example of how to raise his children. This is one good example of why there are rifts between the community and police. The officer did it right.

  • jase

    The only threat I see to anyone here is a race baiter teaching his children to lie and cheat to get a quick 15 minutes in the lime light…. He should lose his job and the media should put the same amount of coverage to clear the officer as it did to disgrace him on a national level….

  • Dan Terry

    Liar Liar pants on fire.

  • Joe Dutra

    This crap happens all the time. The race card is now the ‘MAGIC’ race card. It entitles the player to free money and fame.

  • Catherine

    this jerk just showed his kids what a bully and coward he really is…think about the intimidation and bulling it took to get his sons to make those statements

  • Sharon Kidwell

    Send him and his family to Africa to live among ISIS – maybe then they will appreciate living in the US where officers try to protect the people. His children are already tainted with his racist so the need to go with him. The man is a liar and I heard the officer apologize several times. what is the officer supposed to do – believe that he was a fire fighter and just leave with no questions asked? There are millions of murderers and rapist in prison who claim they never committed a crime – you can be anyone you want all you have to do is say so! The officer was doing his job and he did a good job and was very polite when he found out the man ff was telling the truth. It is people like this that we don’t need in the United States – boy I wish I were president so I could get rid of these bad apples!

  • Michael Finnegan

    the bigger question remains: what do you think about the media? Once again, just like every other incident, if allegations are not presented in a court of law, the media needs to keep their mouth shut without causing public opinion to go one direction or another. Then they can actually report news instead of creating it.

    • MerlinGuy

      Finally! Someone to put the simple truth about the news media out on the table. Report AFTER gathering all the facts and information. Not stirring up a public lynching BEFORE all the facts have been gathered. The news is so full of half-truths and un-truths these days that it is unrealistic. What disgusts me and makes me sick is how they use the 1st Amendment to suit “their” needs. Not to serve the needs of all society. Morons they are.

  • James Hunter

    Fire his ass off the fire dept.
    Even ones working are liars ands racist…
    Prosecute for filing false statements!
    Asshole !

  • moddly

    blacks hate whites.end of story.

  • Richard Baker

    bigger yet is the News Dept. should check their story before helping to Rase-Baiting too

  • Rene Sasse

    The officer was doing his job…plain and simple…if he had ignored these people and walked away and that HAD been burglars he’d be under fire for NOT doing his job, seems like a no win situation for him..ALL officers should have body cams, not only for their protection but for everyone’s, maybe that would help put an end to the racism accusations, profiling , police brutality etc… if they know they are being taped they will act accordingly.

  • jmdsc1 .

    I nominate this gentleman for Father of the Year. Through his actions, he taught his young sons to be racist liars. Congratulations!

  • Tammy Lee

    I think he should be fired from his state job and sensitivity training on racism
    and an public apology to the police officer and department.

  • MSGran

    Arrest him for false statements/defamation of character and discipline him/suspend him from the fire dept!

  • peaceman2244

    jones is a racist and he should be fired ………

  • bobalouski

    Body cams are going to put Al and Jesse out of work! When it’s all on video, their inflammatory, race-baiting will be a thing of the past.

    • Carrol Baker

      such a shame that our country has dropped this low . I am all for body cams if that will protect the innocent.

  • TC

    Black racism at its ugliest! The racist fireman has brought disgrace to his profession and to his race. He should be fired for making such false claims on public television. The TV station should run a sequel with the truth!

    • Darrell Brooks

      Not to mention the lessons he’s teaching his young sons.

  • jdcochran1959

    Racism is just a word to replace the words division of classes…it has always been there and will always be there

  • Darrell Brooks

    Pin a medal on him of course. Isn’t that the way we treat this kind of scum these days?

  • David Carpenter

    Quite honestly, it doesn’t surprise me at all that this man would accuse an innocent white man falsely. This is something the black community does without thought. It is an automatic response. The saddest part of this is that Jones is supposed to be a public servant and be held in high regard and maintain a higher standard of ethics. To accuse a police officer of wrong doing when he knew the officer was only doing his job and did nothing wrong, was bad enough, but to make his children lie and get them to believe the office was doing wrong is inexcusable! This Jones, should be fired. No benefits, no chance to regain his job. He put a mark on the Oakland FD that will be hard to erase. The news channel should have to make a retraction in prime time. It is truly a shame that black people in a position of respect would accuse somebody who did his job so well, of something like this. Jones has no business being a public servant, as he feels the only people he should serve are black. We wonder why white officers are overly cautious around blacks. It’s because they don’t know the good guys from the bad guys. Because this proves, the ones that are supposed to be good guys are really bad guys!!!

    • Carrol Baker

      sounds like the situation during the war in Vietnam ,no one knew who the enemy was until it was too late.

    • Dave M

      David, I absolutely agree with everything you said, except the “black community” part. To move forward with any semblance of “equality” we have to direct the accusations and the accolades to the individuals that are directly involved. Regardless of skin color. Whether they are good examples or bad. Whether we are handing out rewards, or handing down sentences, these individuals earned them on their own.
      This guy is a jackass because he’s a jackass. He did some really underhanded stuff. But he only did them because he decided to, and because he thought he’d get away with it and he’d probably get paid. He did not do it “because he’s black”.

  • Kevin Cantrell

    Fire Him that’s what he was trying to get the officer.

  • Kevin Patricio Lopes

    This firefighter should be fired. Police and Firefighters should be men/women of integrity. Doing the right thing when no one is watching… This Firefighter could have ruined the Officers career, his family life, and might have been forced to leave his home with the potential of threats against him and his family. So based on these facts, Jones should no longer be able to serve the community. I can’t imagine being a firefighter in the same firehouse as this guy. I’m betting he’s going to now file complaints against his fellow firefighters for discrimination once they give him the boot from the firehouse! I welcome the use of body cameras for every one of my calls. Its time we shed what us police officers deal with on a daily basis. It would blow most of your minds! Behaviors that are seen on the street vs the man in the suit sitting there at court. It would boggle your mind! Good luck officer! To you, Mr. Jones… its a shame! You had an opportunity to teach your children about the job of a police officer and protecting its citizens, rather you have perpetuated the cycle of hate, racism and public mistrust. You have smeared the uniform of a firefighter and the firehouse which you were sworn to serve. Do the right thing here! Apologize to this officer and resign as a firefighter. Teach your children about right and wrong and how you made a mistake! Teach them about integrity, something I’m sure you once had. Its sad…

  • Barbara Bollinger Shaffer

    HE IS A RACIST…AND SHOULD BE LABLED AS ONE…AND HE SHOULD BE FIRED AND CHARGED WITH FALSLY ACCUSING THIS OFFICER! TIME FOR CHANGE PEOPLE…STOP LETTING THEM GET AWAY WITH PLAYING THIS RACIST CARD!! AND LOOK AT WHAT HE’S TEACHING HIS CHILDREN…WHAT A SHAME FOR THEM!!

  • Gene Hughes

    Why should we be surprised. This type of thing goes on more and more every day. When you have people like Obozo, Holder, Sharpton, the NAACP jumping on every bandwagon and seizing every opportunity to promote their racist agenda not including the liberal media who are know longer interested in investigative reporting than you can bet every black will seek every opportunity to claim racism every time they do something wrong. Get use to it people.

  • Dan Reznicek

    Way to go dad. Teach your kids it’s okay to lie and distort fact to keep racism alive, AND probably coached them on what to say in front of the camera. Suspend him w/o pay 30 days. If the police officer did not have body cam he would have nothing to back himself up with and he would have been hung out to dry.

  • Big Rob Version 2.0

    Someone wanted a huge payday and will now probably get fired.

  • blue_persuasion

    Fire him for false and misleading allegations. He has disgraced his position as a firefighter. Unless and until we treat these lying liar race baiters like the thugs they are, they will continue this nonsense.

  • Becky Trevino

    Glad the Police officer was wearing a camera – or he could have had his entire life turned upside down by the Firefighter who LIED completely about the entire situation. He should be reprimanded and made to apologize. If he submitted a false police report then action should be taken against him, which the article says he did. He is teaching his children the same type of HATE. Which is why racism is still alive and well in this country. Very sad that a firefighter who should be a role model for children to look up to, has such a lack of integrity. I feel sorry for his children. Disgusting.

  • Rebecca Rush

    Fire the man, remove the children from him, make him take classes on racism .

  • Mae

    I’m guessing more than half of your didn’t watch the second video which is the officers lapel video. It shows the cop being very reasonable and calm. Seriously just cause your black doesn’t mean every white person has a grudge. I don’t care if your purple if you are breaking the law then you get in trouble and if you are following the rules awesome. I’ve seen too many people use nationality as a crutch. Hate on me if you any

  • Paul Ortiz

    Liar, liar pants on fire — man!

    • Dave M

      I see what you did there 🙂

  • Steven Parker

    The dumb Racist just wanted to get on the news,now he should be at least suspended from the fire department and made to publicly apologize on the same news.

  • Pam Esslinger

    Got ya.
    I am so glad this police officer had a hidden camera on him.
    What should happen to Jones…I suggest suspension from duty as fireman. Go before the court and explain his actions. Go through racists management. He is a liar, and obviously I would not trust him as a fellow work. Earning trust again by anyone he knows, wow!
    What a horrible example of a man you are to your children. Shame on you. Since you brought your children into your lie you need to bring them along to your apology meeting with the officer. Be an example of the consequences of lying.

    Finally, Mr Jones, you need to apologize profusely to this officer for your horrible accusation. And hopefully he will accept it.
    Next, you need to ride together with the officer and be in his shoes for a time. Please oh please make sure that this officer has a buddy officer with them.

    OH, by the way, KEEP THE CAMERAS rolling.

  • Ken Hicks

    Joins should be terminated from his job for inciting a rioting situation in Oakland. I am a former Oakland Police Officer, and our relationship with the Fire Department was excellent. This fireman has no business “Lying” about this situation and the video supports that. He (Jones) is not worthy to be one of Oakland’s Finest.

  • Earthgal

    1 example of why racism will never go away. Cry wolf much? I’m pretty sure the officer would have handled it the exact same way no matter who was in there. Fortunately we can now say, “Yes, via video, I WAS there.” : )

  • Allen Michael

    So the Oakland Firefighter thinks it was racism and wants an apology. I noticed an officer that was doing his job, regardless on not know if the gentleman was a firefighter or not. It could have been Obama, and if the officer didn’t know. He would have followed the same protocol. For Mr. Jones, your apology is at 1:43!

  • odohof

    The ACLU supports use of the cameras, if the officer informs said citizen that he/she is being recorded? Hmmm… I smell legislation coming on. Something to the effect of “admissible vs. not admissible evidence. After the overwhelming number of cell phone videos taken halfway through an incident by civilians, I would hope the rule would work both ways. For example, “You did not notify the officer that you were recording, and therefore this video is inadmissible as evidence.” Let’s see how the ACLU feels about that.

  • RummRunner

    Dude should be fired. After all that’s what he wanted to happen to the police officer. Now his children know what a scumbag race-baiting liar their daddy is.

  • bubba

    wow the police officer was doing his job,, well done police officer, for the firefighter saying the officer never apologize one time, we know not that was a lie he said it six times to the firefighter and the kids,, the only racist was the black guy in this matter, the black firefighter should apologize to the office now for making a false statement against the police officer and be removed from the fire service

  • cheongyei

    Why was his truck parked at the fire station when he was off duty?

    • Dave M

      It says it was parked there, probably for free parking while they watched the Raider game. Hell, if I worked near the stadium, I’d do that too. Save me a bit of money for a beer and some food.

  • Dave M

    Oh yeah. Way to fuel the fire, you prick. An admission of guilt, a lengthy suspension of duties and a formal, written apology to the Officer, the Police and Fire Chiefs would be great, as a start. Maybe some “diversity training” for good measure. Not exactly sure how a person can undo what he’s done to his children though. That’s the worst part.

  • Sandra Dunakin

    Jones should be found guilty of false accusations, against a police officer and shunned on the same news channel he so quickly and so “honestly” cried **racism** . HE should be made to go on television and 1. Apologize to his children for setting a BAD EXAMPLE AS A DAD, USING HIS CHILDREN IN THIS FARCE (CHILD ABUSE) and then 2. Made to return to the station he spewed **his** racist claims and offer just as loudly as before ” sorry officer, I’m a racist LIAR who used his own children to perpetuate this farce and then FIRED from the Fire Department he stupidly entered instead of notifying a superior and standing outside wairing for someone to come.
    S H A M E…..S H A M E ON HIM ON SO **MANY LEVELS**.

    I WOULD NOT WANT THIS BIGOT TO RESPOND TO MY FIRE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
    FIRE HIS ASS….absolutely no pity coming from this direction.
    Due to recent events….these people want the cops to wear these recorders….now what ??? This man is a disgrace as a **parent** and a disgrace to his **race**.
    I’ve about had enough of this already…thank you obama…another disgrace to the only part (the black part)
    He’s also a disgrace to the black community.

  • Tammy Tucker Fowler

    He should be fired. Send a message that this type of crap won’t be tolerated any more.

  • Dale Teille

    So where is Rev Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson on this one? What, they do not want to stand in front of the cameras for this one? They don’t want to stand up for a black gentleman and his kids against such a racist Oakland cop? Geeze, I figured their private jets would have been on final approach to Oakland before the news report even aired. Kudos to the Oakland officer, as well as the OPD for having the foresight to equip the officer with the body camera. I wonder if this would have even come up if this happened during the daytime where the guy could have possibly seen the body camera?

  • HogLady70

    It’s really sad when you have to have av proof that you’re just doing your job. This racism claim went out the window last century! The only ones you hear it from are those filled with hate. Way too much time has passed to claim revenge for possible slavery. What about the American Indians? I don’t see them rioting in the streets & if anyone gad s true reason to, it is them! They have learned to live peaceably with all men – something the blacks REALLY need to learn!!

  • Rhgates

    He should be fired, and all future employers warned that he is a liability and will probably file a lawsuit against any employer for being “racist”. It’s a Sickening spin on frivolous lawsuits.

  • Marcus Villainous Swift Higgin

    He wouldn’t have loss his job cops do this ALL the time

    • Beedogz

      You are a liar and racist POS.

  • Smarter than u

    A black man lied about racism?! Imagine my shock!!

  • jitsguy

    Here’s the problem with black people. They expect everyone to be a like friendly customer service agent who are on their side. Even cops. Well guess what, cops are cops! They’re not customer service agents.

  • Bill Webb

    Jones should loss his job for this. He was out to get money or something for this and to have his kids lie for him well that just shows you what kind of father he is. Who really is the racist here?

  • Dave M

    The activist community has an obligation at this point to come down hard on this kind of behavior as well. I would like to see this behavior condemned by the very people demanding “equal” rights. If they don’t speak out, their credibility and intentions will be justifiably questioned.

  • mouse31

    Uh, oh… How long before the liberals start pushing these cops to stop using body cameras? This is devastating to the liberal agenda. It’s going to be tough to sensationalize these stories, create victims, and inflame racial tensions when everything is on video.

  • Lesley Hughes

    Such a sad state of affairs…there ARE real racist bigots “out there” of every race..live long enough and you will meet one..to lie about a fellow public servant, and WORSE to teach that lie to your children is inexcusable…The fireman needs to be fired…I’d never trust his word again in any dealings with White people…very sad.

    • Yeahright54

      People will not trust his words with anything and not just with dealings with white people. If you can lie about something so small. You can lie about anything else.

  • A. H.

    The officer handled this situation very professionally. Thankfully, the cam he had told us what really happened! The officer has to make sure first that there are no weapons, (regardless of race!) and this is what he did. Mr. Jones, a firefighter, lied about what transpired. As a fire fighter and public servant, his integrity should be beyond reproach..it’s not! He should be terminated from his position from the fire department. The officer did his job and race was not an issue for him. As for Mr. Jones, he is teaching his children to be racist!!

  • Samantha Purkey

    Fire the fire fighter.

  • Jennie Dentice

    Wow, watching the firefighter, he seems so sincere. Scarey how comfortable he was with his attempt to ruin other mans career. Also disturbing was the news reporters and how they told the story I’m not sure if I heard the word alleged one time. Even if they did their tone was definitely one that made it seem they believed story and made their own decision on policeman and his guilt. Please tell me they reported a follow up! What is this man teaching children? Maybe he was upset or his pride was hurt that policeman followed protocol and didn’t automatically believe his reason for being at station. But it should have been apparent he was just doing his job. He should understand this,especially since he is part of FD. Policeman never even raised his voice and appoligized at least twice. I am almost more mad at media as even the words they spoke sounded as if man was just doing his job. No real story to begin with. Amazing how powerful the tone of voice and a few choice words can put a spin on a “story”.

  • common-sense-needed

    I wish the OPD would have sat on this tape until the MSM showed up…
    Lots of media coverage.. Jesse and Al and the bunch.. maybe even Holder..
    Then dump it on them..
    Priceless.

  • JO

    But at the same time, when you’re in that situation with your emotions high, you surely remember it differently than what actually was. Although I am on the side of the police officer, I cannot judge the fire fighter for remembering the incident as he told it, especially given his 2 children were with him. I was on a train in Europe when two police carrying guns walked up and asked for my passport. That was it. And it scared me so severely I couldn’t quit laughing out of hysteria the entire time they were checking it (about 5 minutes). The way I remember it, surely wasn’t the way it went down.

  • John B Hennessey

    Now tell me again who’s the racist?The blacks are the racist they try to turn everything around on the whites.

  • Dan

    No surprise here. Blacks are the most racist people there are.

  • Daytontx

    I am originally from Oakland and also a firefighter myself , This Fireman should be Terminated Black or White should not matter if there going to lie like this and can not be trusted this person is not of a good character which should be as part of employment for the Oakland Fire Department ,and try to get this policemans job because the color of his skin, Totally unexcusable.

  • George Frayer

    Great parenting, teaching children to Race-Bait rather than become decent human beings….

  • DaveT

    At the very least he should be suspended without pay for a month. There has to be consequences because his lies could have cost this man his job and his reputation.

    • DaveT

      Its indivduals like Jones why there isn’t more progress on race relations. He was probably thinking he would get a big pay day by suing the police department.

  • Don Black

    I say all cops should be required to wear body cameras……so we can know the truth…ALL THE TIME.

    • George Frayer

      I agree with that part. It protects everyone including them.

      • Don Black

        I’m more about protecting everybody. Not just one group. The truth is the truth. When you say including them, you make it sound like the police are always being lied on. Hell….you would think they would be happy to wear cameras to document what happens…..so they can be in the clear IF they haven’t done anything wrong.

  • George Frayer

    I know people complained about the new Body cams but as we just seen it not only protects people being apprehended and questioned but also protects the officer from something that could become career ending.

  • PAT BLAIR

    Jones should be filed on and fired from his job- no one should want this type of scumbag liar working for them!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets see if the bigshot Jackson tells this – bet not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Steve Parks

    simply should be sued for defamation and then either a 6 month suspension no pay or terminated

  • Dan Gilmartin

    fire the jerk.

  • Kerri Indelicato

    I think it should be like reporting a false emergency…here the first count is misdemeanor next one is a class 6 felony.

  • Ted

    We see how Black Males are passing the Race Card to their children. It is sad that a Professional Firefighter would use this to manipulate the minds of Black youths, especially his own.

  • Carmen A.

    Jones needs to be fired for Lying like his Brother Obama!

  • KMA

    Doesn’t Oakland have one of the highest crime rates in the country?? I’m sure the police have to be extremely vigilant and protective of their lives. I watched the video and the policeman was nice, in control of himself, folioed protocol, didn’t touch Jones or his boys, and DID apologize 3 times! It all seemed right to me!

  • KMA

    I think the TV station, who is mostly responsible for the spectacle – should show the police video with the sound- of course!) so ignorant people could see/hear the truth!!

  • Repeat_Welfare_Thugs

    Fire that lying fireman. HE is the problem. The cop did the right thing and would have done eaxctly the same if the fireman was white. Fire the fireman….but since he’s black I guess that’s impossible! Typical reverse discrimination.

  • Michele Pangle

    Sad that cops have to have a body camera to prove their innocence in consistent racist report and beatings. Stupid. Jerk just showed his kids how NOT to act.

  • Beedogz

    This racist black firefighter tried to destroy the career of the cop. Fair play demands the firefighter lose his job and career as he intended to happen to the cop.
    FIRE HIM! Charge him! Try him! Jail him! Sue him! Ruin him as he intended to ruin the cop!

  • GeorgeClintonObama

    Sharpton and Jackson were on the plane headed towards Oakland when the body camera footage came out and then a funny thing happened…..that plane took a sharp u-turn and headed right back to Ferguson.
    The media shares blame on most of these instances however as they are so quick to be “exclusive” and first to report that they dont care if they get it right.
    As for the firefighter, this is how I believ many of these “injustices” we hear actually occur. The black mentality automatically assumes that everyone is racist and bent on keeping the black man down. As we see here, perception is nowhere near reality and until key black political figures step up and change this misguided thinking, the black community will not succeed as a whole.

  • sane4now

    He should be charged for falsifying documents – when he filed a complaint, defamation of character – going on news and lying, purgery – lying under oath & when your on duty you’re under oath, and whatever hate crime/racism attachment should be added. He’s setting a terrible example for his children.

  • Lillian Terwilliger

    I think Jones should get a ticket for false reporting an incident and fined 1000.00 dollars..

  • David

    Fired and charged with filing a false report, the officer should sue him for slander and defamation of character. Jones should also forfeit all of his pension and be made an example…

  • Karen

    Thank you to the officer for the professional he is. The other man should go back on Television and admit he is a LIAR and he should have to have some diversity training

  • guamjeff

    Fired as a Fire Fighter.

  • Brian in Chile

    This is why cops should not object to being required to carry body cameras.

  • Dwight Inman

    I bet the white firefighters in his Ladder will enjoy working with him now. Mr. JONES should do the honorable thing and resign.

  • Mike Santino

    Hey Fire Chief You were crying to the Police Chief about his officer. Your Boy could have started another riot. He is a lying piece of siht and should be terminated forthwith. How many laws did he break? What he did to his kids, they should be removed from his custody

  • Jerry Verdugo

    I’ve seen this before. When some blacks get the “power,” they become as bad or even worse than the racist cop!

  • La Mirada Guy

    Filing a false police report should be grounds for firing….just saying.

  • wernerpd

    He should be hired immediately by the irreverent Al Charlatan…

  • La Mirada Guy

    Who’s the racist now?

  • johnnyny11 .

    if it was anyone else falsifying a police report they have charges filed against them. the fire fighter should be ordered by a judge to go on the same news channel and apologize to the officer and then he should be fired from his job because he now cant be trusted

  • William Dean Sr.

    Jones has proven himself to be a racist and liar. He should be required to take sensitivity training after receiving some time off without pay. How can anyone trust him any more. He even had his kids lie.

  • Noosic

    He should be terminated. End of story

  • Murphy’s Mom

    The cop acted correctly under the circumstances. Jones was wrong and worse! Everybody wants to be treated with kid gloves by the police. The behavior the officer displayed is the result of training based on past court decisions and designed to protect the public and the officer. Racism is a two way street.

  • sward14

    Haha busted f^**ing LIAR, he Jones should be fired and prosecuted for filing a false claim. I’m so glad these police can now rest easy and do their jobs without these phony ass punks wanting to sue, not only did he lie he made his kids lie. Fire this punkass racist immediately. Take that to his lawyer. Ambulance chasing turd.

  • Janice Perry

    This is the way of the blacks to try and completely destroy all white’s. This time it has backfired – this black should be sued by the cop and have to serve time. Truth will stand when the world Is on fire – I hope the cop refuses any apologies from this liar

  • Candace Turney Brooks

    Since he was more than willing to LIE and possibly threaten the police officers job, he should have his taken away for having no integrity. I think those police cams are awesome. He should have to serve some jail time for filing a false statement and go back on the news and apologize for his racial baiting!

  • wayne8734

    He was trying to create another racism incident,maybe a good lawsuit check.Don’t you know if the suspected firefighter was white The officer wouldn’t have said anything.lol

    • Lyndy Hair

      The officer was responding to a possible burglary at the fire station. It would not matter what color he is. He was not in uniform. As far as the officer was concerned, he was the burglar

    • Toast

      you would die first day on the job as a pig….

      • Lyndy Hair

        Your lack of respect for anyone or anything is astounding.

  • Vincent Sherrill

    He should be fired, he FILED CHARGES against the officer BASED in LIES. He caused his KIDS to LIE. That’s CONSPIRACY. He should not only be fired he should be charged for filing a false report and Racism.

  • JoAnnthePlumber

    How about slander? And while we’re at it, the news media apparently didn’t learn anything in Ferguson, MO as to reporting things without all the facts.

  • Lulu

    He should be fired for trying to start a race riot like Ferguson. SHAME on him.

  • Michael D. Cain

    I believe he should be fired and he should not be allowed to wear a uniform of any kind…if you lie you will steal…The police officer would have lost his job if he didn’t have the body camera rollin…i also believe that public apology is in order as well.

  • dgstal

    HaHa, the cops body cam made a liar out of the Racist Firefighter and his lying offspring, firefighter should be charged with perjury and retaliation after the fact!

    • Lyndy Hair

      I believe Mr. Jones should be charged with something but sadly, he most likely won’t. If he were charged with something perjury would not be it. And what the heck is retaliation after the fact?

      • dgstal

        After the fact works for the police, had a deputy I filed an internal affairs complaint against after all my charges were dismissed refile the same charges six months later, the law can work in mysterious ways?

  • TreyDay

    This man does not represent the Black community or Black people in any way. Clearly, he made the false accusation to gain attention and add fuel to an already burning fire which is terrible. Sad that he felt the need to create a lie to make the cops look bad, but to say race is not a major issue in America is a huge problem.

    • Lyndy Hair

      Thank you for your honesty and fairness. I rarely see this from anyone.

      Race
      is a major issue and it is not one sided. Each side believes they are
      entitled to or owed something. One always on the fore front more than
      others. We all are entitled to the same basic rights afforded to us by
      the constitution. How we choose to practice these rights determines our
      character, demanding that citizens obey laws and act with consideration
      and respect.

      With
      every action there is a reaction. This man took advantage of all the
      racial unrest currently plaguing the United States for his 15 minutes. I
      hope all the communities demand justice as they would if this officer
      had violated his oath as an officer of the law.

  • CommonSense

    Have you ever been in a tense moment, and blown things out of proportion afterwards when you tell the story? That is exactly what happened here. Of course he thought that he was just being picked on because he was black, but that was not the actual reason. He simply jumped to a conclusion that they have been forced to live with for years; the fact that as Americans they are still discriminated against in the “greatest country on the earth”. This is merely an example of when a cop didn’t single him out, and he simply overreacted, many people including myself would have done the same. The blatant racism on this comment section is disgusting and puts the true ideologies of our constitution to shame.

    • Lyndy Hair

      Answering your first question. No. And I don’t believe that was the case here. This wasn’t some punk running around the streets late at night and some cop stopped to harass him. This was an Oakland fire fighter, trained to perform under the most tense moments. This is an educated man.

      There was to blowing out of proportion, no jumping to conclusions, no over reacting, no discrimination. He flat out lied and had his children lie also.

  • Dutch550

    It’s a good thing the cop was wearing the body camera. I feel sorriest for the boys, who saw their dad lie. Being a firefighter is a good, respectable job, too. I hope his sons understand their dad did a wrong thing by lying.

    • PapaLouie

      Just because that racist body camera took the side of the white cop doesn’t prove nothing. (/sarc)

    • Lyndy Hair

      I hope the kids understand what they did was wrong. The lied also.

  • Jack Reilly

    But NOTHING will happen to this Black Race Card playing firefighting IDIOT…….for LYING to everyone…..and trying to either have the cop fired or sue the city……..he’s a POS….all cops should be wearing these Cameras, so we can really see who the RACISTS are.

  • McLovin

    Black guy should be fired!

  • ND

    I’m surprised al sharpton and jesse jackson didn’t fly to Oakland to start some race riots in the neighborhood.

  • 30+

    Fired!! Who can trust a liar and racist!!!! Shame on him for using his kids and teaching them these racist behaviors!

  • Karl Dulle

    He filed a complaint = giving a false statement on an officer of the court He should be tried under HATE CRIME laws… And ya know.. the reporter,, well he didn’t present any anti-white bias reporting “the facts” did he…{sarcasm}

  • TreyDay

    Politicians and our own government lies right to our faces everyday and get away with it!

  • Eleanor Boening

    Jones should be fired!

  • Tim Collins

    Mr. Jones should be cited for filing a false complaint (which is a sworn statement, subject to the penalties of perjury.) He should be suspended from his job until such time as he is interviewed by the same news media, tells the truth, and apologizes–those should be conditions of his reinstatement. MOST DISTURBING to me is the fact that he somehow got his two kids to tell the same lie on camera. Parents teaching their kids that the police (or people of another race) are enemies and only want to hurt them is a huge problem that needs to be addressed, but those in position to do so (politicians, media) will not–they pretend that this type of thing is an anomaly. Read recently that police brutality COMPLAINTS went down by about 80% when the cops started wearing video recorders. Hmmmm.

  • Steve Applebee

    These are two videos EVERYONE needs to watch. This so-called “racist” Bullsh*t happens EVERY DAY in America and the major media simply DOES NOT REPORT IT! WHO are the REAL racists?! Young black Americans are spoon-fed this sh*t by politically correct liberals in the media and racists such as Al Sharlatan and Jesse Jackass in order to keep their bank accounts full at the expense of black Americans. Wake up black America, YOUR leaders are keeping you in poverty and ignorance!

    • TreyDay

      Who ever said that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson were “leaders” of the Black community? Just because the media says that does not make it true. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have their own personal agendas and I can assure you that the majority of Blacks around the US know that. I think we can both look past this Firefighter’s ignorance and acknowledge that even though this situation was a failed attempt to further separate this great nation we live in, racism among Blacks and Whites is still a major issue that needs to be addressed.

      • Steve Applebee

        I disagree. Racism among BLACKS is the “major issue” that needs to be addressed. I don’t know a single white person who believes black Americans should have less Rights than white Americans–they believe in EQUAL Rights, not special privledges.

      • Terence Sommer

        ‘Racism’ is pretty much about what blacks present to the world.

  • Dwayne

    Fired from the fire department, charged with filing a false report, and sued by the city and the cop.

  • Grumpy Ol Fart

    He should get some unpaid days off at a minimum.

  • Lee

    Oh no a brother lying about racism this can not be…

  • Ernie Combs

    Along with the firefighter, why not go after the tv station’s news department, as well. The report goes on a list of non-researched news reporting. I think the fire chief and the tv station are wearing mud masks…………they well deserve it. I do like it when the media gets caught in poor reporting habits, and brot to task……….

  • Chad

    The police officer should file a civil lawsuit against this man. Defamation of character and slander. He has a slam dunk case.

    • Terence Sommer

      I hope the police officer does that, but will the joooo media cover that?

  • Ken Gove

    As a public servant, he should be held to the highest punishment he could receive for deceit on another public servant. He could have cost the police officer his job if it hadn’t been for the body cam. The fire fighter should be fired and removed from being a public servant because he has lost the public’s trust. At the least, he should be fined and made to apologize publicly to the police officer.

    • Toast

      its okay, he was black! they are allowed to act like lil girls….

      • Terence Sommer

        It’s true. They get treated very softly considering thier rates of violence.

  • SueB

    Body Cams should be mandatory for every officer in every state….for their safety and the publics

  • Kaye Newman

    He should be fired. He could have ruined that officer’s life.

  • blisterpeanuts

    Is there white-on-black racism? Yes. Is there black-on-white racism? Yes. Is there media bias against any white person who has an altercation with a black person? HeII yes!

    It’s cynical cr@p like this that makes police overly cautious about apprehending real criminals who are black; one little mistake and their jobs are forfeit. End result: more crime, and we all suffer, including black people who are the majority of the victims.

  • James Eubanks

    My question would be, why did he take his kids inside an unsecured bldg? He led his kids into a potentially dangerous situation!! How is that being a responsible parent? I am sure this probably has happened before and he thought nothing of it when he entered the bldg, but none the less still a dangerous move. Why is he not explaining this to his children and letting his boy’s know the officer was only doing his job instead of allowing them to believe the BS. I don’t care about his color, he acted irresponsible then and is still acting irresponsible now.

    • Toast

      unsecured building? so do you “clear” buildings with a firearm or swat team before you let your child in? Does this include school? You are FUCKED!

  • Michelle Mexicali

    FIRE HIM!

    You gotta know this firefighter ate up the sympathy from friends and coworkers. It HAS to be embarrassing and humiliating to be “out’ed” by a video cam. ;o) I likey likey likey.

  • Michelle Mexicali

    Wait… CBS reported this without hearing the other side of the story and now they pull the video citing copyright claims? Seems as though not only the fireman owes the police officer a massive public apology but so does CBS!

    • Terence Sommer

      The MSM is owned and operated by the joooooos, that’s why.

  • BuddyLuv

    Charges? How about child abuse? It seems he’s grooming the next generation of victims.

  • Chris Michael

    There should be one less firefighter on the dept. And way to build your kids fear of police and racism…

  • Steve

    This cartoon pretty much sums it up.

  • Sergio Romero

    This story is reported inaccurately in several respects. In any event this stupid cop wouldnt assume a shooting stance against 9 and 11 year old kids if they were White. Wake up.

  • Steve

    This cartoon sums it up.

  • Rach Santa
  • horseradish

    He should make a public apology!

  • John P. Ruczynski

    I’m sure that they (blacks and other thugs/criminals) will come up with a reason that filming them using the body cam will represent some form of
    harassment and/or racism. Al and Jesse will be leading the charge. They all feel entitled and that they are above the law. The same people who protest the Police treatment of them are the first to complaing when the Police don’t solve the crimes committed against them. There is no pleasing them.

    • Sigmund Freud

      Why do you feel the need to group Blacks and Thugs/Criminals in the same category? Also, Blacks do not support Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson because they are NOT “leaders” in the Black community because they have their own hidden agendas. The media categorizes them as “leaders” in the Black community, but in reality, they really are not. The real leaders in the Black community believe in working hand in hand with Whites and other racial groups to ensure that America continues being the greatest nation in the world. Get your facts straight.

      • Terence Sommer

        I will call you the sweet Charlie Rose.

  • Bob Azarigian

    Fired!

  • Bob Azarigian

    I would also attain an attorney and file a suit in civil court.

  • Bob

    Cop was OK….ff was ok….what happened after I guess was bull shit…fire his punk ass

  • g_man1

    Very typical…

    He made a false complaint to internal affairs…. It is a criminal offense… It is called perjury.

    When you sign a complaint it is a legal document that under oath you swear that it is the truth…. The guy lied and committed perjury.

    Police department is not going to do anything, because they don’t want the blacks crying racist…

  • Paul Whittington

    He should have to publicly apoligize on camera to the oakland police and this officer. then he is going to have issues for the rest of his career.

  • dfballou

    If a crime was committed by Jones, it would be a very minute issue. HOWEVER, I am sure he viloated his Dept policy, of Moral turpitude, and Lieing is Moral turpitude, of which is a firing offense. In any Union rule Book, He should be brought up on Violation of Dept. Policy and fired, as he is no longer a viable ethical ,and or morally fit for the job.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    How many of these bogus claims of racism are the blacks going to try and pull? Seems every time they find KKK spray painted somewhere or a noose hanging somewhere, it turns out it is some prejudiced black dope starting trouble who did it.

  • robert

    This is why I am critical of police departments and police unions that fight adoption of camera technology. If law enforcement can use it to spy on us, then they should be required to use it to keep them in check. But also because it would help the good cops prove they are good cops. This is a win win for the cops and the citizens and should be adopted by all departments.

    As for Jones, he should be fired. He filed a knowingly false report with law enforcement. If he is willing to lie about this and file a false report has he done this before with filing fire department paperwork? If I did that in my job I would be fired. He should be as well.

    • Jones is a man without honor if this reporting is correct. A man without honor should not be in public employ receiving tax dollars. Also, entering buildings where valuables can be purloined performing firefighter duties do we want an unhonorable man in that position?

      I wonder if the purpose of the lie was to initiate a lawsuit seeking wealth that would likely be coughed up by the taxpayer? There is also the “boy who cried wolf” syndrome where any proclamation of racism by a cop will immediately be assumed to be a lie.

      What a horrible horrid guy that Jones is IF the reporting is accurate.

  • Honestly?

    Since this was the Oakland Police Department and Fire Department, California has laws against filing False Police “Compaints”. The following is taken straight out of the California Law Books.

    Filing a False Complaint

    A word of caution is offered concerning persons knowingly making false complaints about peace officers. Civil Code 47.5* allows peace officers to bring civil action against a person filing a false complaint.

    *NOTE: Section 47.5 Civil Code can be found on the California Law Website Section 47.5 Civil Code (Peace Officers; defamation action against person filing false complaint alleging misconduct, criminal conduct, or incompetence) … a peace officer may bring an action for defamation against an individual who has filed a complaint with that officer’s employing agency alleging misconduct, criminal conduct, or incompetence, if that complaint is false, the complaint was made with knowledge that it was false and that it was made with spite, hatred, or ill will . . .

    So, with that being said, this firefighter should in fact be reprimanded by his department, as that is the location this incident took place. He should either be charged with filing a false complaint, and/or as evidence clearly shows, this officer has every right to take this man to court himself.

  • Rick Burrell

    So, the guy tried to get his 5 minutes of fame. Too bad now all he’ll be known for is some stupid lies. Worse yet, his kids now know first hand what their dad is. Sad, if Keith Jones doesn’t feel like crap then he’s just another prejudiced, ignorant fool trying to bring down society.

  • jerseydevil
  • Joni Jones

    You think he would have run a check on a white guy’s ID or would he have taken the guy on his word the truck with the firefighter’s plates was his? Think he would have yelled at a white guy to raise his hands and turn around? The only reason he asked for the guy’s ID is because he offered it, knowing the cop immediately saw a criminal when he saw his black face. I mean really, WHO takes their kids on a burglary and WHO burglarizes a firehouse? I guess thought the little boys were criminals in-training, that daddy was teaching them the family business.

    The cop DID racially discriminate.

    • Samantha Baker

      So the cops were supposed to ignore the open firehouse door, and a stranger not in uniform who is inside of it? How exactly would you have handled the situation? I am asking honestly how you would have approached it. He asked the man to raise his arms and turn to make sure he didn’t have a weapon before he reached for the ID. As far as the kids, unfortunately I have seen plenty of stories where people (white, black, and Hispanic) have used children to steal so that isn’t beyond the scope. The cop handled the situation the best way it could be.

      • Sigmund Freud

        Are you denying the possibility that the cop may have handled the situation differently if the firefighter and his kids were White?

        • Samantha Baker

          Yes I am. You think cops never have to deal with white criminals? Automatically assuming he would have been somehow nicer to white people in an open firehouse in the middle of the night is the chip on your shoulder, not his.

          • Sigmund Freud

            Cops deal with white criminals? I’ve learned something new (sarcasm).

  • Joni Jones

    Also, we don’t see, in this video, what the cop said and did to make the firefighter go on the defensive, explaining so animatedly that he belonged there, DO we?

    I guess it never occurred to you how easy it to to fake a video. We NEVER actually see the firefighter OR his kids. DO we?

    • braided_wild_rose

      Our Black men are always being persecuted. For centuries we have been persecuted. You go right ahead and keep that chip on your shoulder sister. I’m with you 100%.

      • MichaelStamper

        Paranoia.

      • Terence Sommer

        bla bla bla

    • MichaelStamper

      There is no amount of proof that will ever satisfy you, is there?

    • La Mirada Guy

      I got it , that explains the lies.

  • He should be fired and forced to pay for any legal fees that were incurred by the city if any. This is a perfect example of why we need a “LOSER PAYS” rule in our legal system when it comes to suing and filing false claims where the plaintiff is simply looking for a payout before trial – let them all go to trial and PROVE the offense! It’ll save the defendants a lot of headache and money and cut down on the burden our legal system endures! And make him publicly apologize for being a lowlife scumbag looking to take advantage of the system because whenever they sue the cops and get money it is TAXPAYER DOLLARS they are taking!!!

  • Cheryl McMaken

    We saw the actual police footage. Does that not bear ground here? The firefighter was in the wrong. He lied to the police officer doing his job. He should be reprimanded and taken off the job for a few days. Not to be fired, the man has children to raise and feed. It’s a simple case of racism again. They all yell race when a white cop stops them. I wonder if we can claim race when a black cop stops us?

    • superunknownuser

      he attempted to ruin an innocent mans life. he should be fired.

      • Cheryl McMaken

        I am thinking of the innocent children involved here. It’s not their fault that their dad is a jerk. Don’t fire him but lay it straight to him. That’s all.

    • Lyndy Hair

      Was he thinking about his children when he lied? Was he thinking about his children when they lied? If it weren’t for the body cam the officer could have been severely reprimanded or even lose his job over this lie. Yes, this firefighter should lose his job.

      I read in another blog that this fire fighter was a baseball coach and people considered him a great role model.

  • Rick Brohmer

    The Fire Chief needs to have a serious conversation with his employee about telling the truth. What a bad example for his kids! The fireman in question needs to personally apologize to the cop. I didn’t see any act of racism or treatment from the cop. He did exactly what he should have done! What we have here is a Oakland fireman with an axe to grind throwing the race card out at the cop for doing his job. Maybe a 7 day suspension without pay will teach the fireman to tell the truth in the future.

    • libertarian1234

      “Maybe a 7 day suspension without pay will teach the fireman to tell the truth in the future.”

      There’s no chance of that.

      This man is an anti-white hater and a liar.

      Nothing is going to change his personality.

      Blacks are the biggest whiners on planet earth and the vast majority are natural liars.

  • Don Newcomb

    Jones should lose his job

  • Thomas Wall

    Jones should be charged with making false accusations to destroy the reputation of a Police officer. If anyone was guilty of racism it was Jones. Child services should be called in to investigate this man for teaching his children to be racists and to lie on television about the incident. If not for that camera, a decent mans life could have been ruined.

  • Rob

    Fire his ass… And charge him with falsely reporting a crime.. It goes both ways.. Dirt bag

  • bgm62961

    It took the cop less than 2 min. to tell them that they could lower their arms and less than 5 min. to run the ID to be certain that everything was on the up and up. Nothing racist about any of it. And he did apologize more than once and you hear the father say no problem. The father should have set a good example for his kids and tell them that the officer was just doing his job.

  • Ross RoscoRulez Pool

    LIAR, fricking POS trying to get paid, typical, disgrace to the uniform, should br FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MDR

    This man should be fired and arrested, with the tension across the country right now, this could have escalated very quickly! Going on national television with this, sounds like slander and defamation of character against this officer! He even acknowledged the officers apologies, then still went on national television and blatantly lied!

  • Carl

    Fire this a-hole immediately.

  • Renee

    He should be charged for making a false report. He should be required to make a public apology to the officer for the damage done to his reputation. Also, now that Jones’s honesty is in question, his employer should check out if what he was doing there was just locking the place up or in reality was he up to something else. His employer should reprimand him for his behaviour that tarnished the name of firefighters.

  • Mark Nestler

    It doesn’t matter if it was illegal or not that he filed a complaint. HE LIED about the whole incident and threw the race card. This kind of thing has become so absurd and commonplace that I’m am not even disgusted by it anymore. I’m just amused.

  • Doc Mathis

    Firefighters are supposed to be leaders in the community the same as police officers. He is teaching his kids racism. He should be terminated from the fire department and either prosecuted or made to make a formal on camera apology to the officer, the fire department and the city.

  • Doc Mathis

    The officer did everything by the book. An example of self control

  • Nancy Gladkin-Hessler

    He should lose his job! Obviously the cop was doing his job and it’s also obvious the fireman is Racist and raising his kids to be phobic about cops AND white people! Shameful!

  • Ken Reinstadler

    Making a false report of police abuse is a crime. Should be prosecuted and fired. When cops lie, they are fired. He lied and taught his kids to lie too. I never used to promote cameras, but maybe all cops need to be live – for their own sakes.

  • mobg242

    The officer apologized and the fireman said no problem. Now the fireman is trying to make a big stink out of the deal. Get over it, man.

  • Terence Sommer

    Black victimhood, boohoohoo. I am so sick of them.

  • Dave

    Sergio, did you know that people who have low iq’s very rarely realize it? They also tend to believe that others around them have below average intelligence, because others do not think the way they do.

    It’s pretty obvious that is whats going on right here. The firefighter lied about what happened, and you’re choosing to defend him. Apparently you do not realize how unintelligent, and racist you actually sound.

    Maybe the officer would’ve acted differently if it were white people there. We will never know, but even if he would have, it would not make what he did to mr. Jones wrong. He followed the book. If he treated white people differently, he would be wrong for that.

    The facts of the matter are quite simple. The firefighter lied publicly about specific events. The police officer followed standard procedure. You’re just assuming that because the officer is white it has to do with race. You’re stereotyping the officer based on his skin color, which is no different than what he is being accused of.

    Maybe you should pay a little more attention to the facts, and less attention to what color people are. The last time I checked it lying did not rank to high on the morality meter, but following procedure did.

  • Sigmund Freud

    How must you all feel about the fact that the Ferguson and St. Louis County Police Departments lied to the nation about so-called facts regarding the shooting of Mike Brown? I’ll wait for responses….

  • Cheryl McMaken

    I agree with Michael J. Simmons. A nationwide apology is in order.

    • Sigmund Freud

      How about a nationwide apology from the Ferguson and St. Louis County Police Departments for lying about so-called “facts” regarding Darren Wilson’s justified shooting of Mike Brown?

  • jeannie

    Too bad Rev Al didn’t get involved – would have been another Tawana Brawley lmao

  • RHG

    Just shows how fast the media will try an gin up some “hate whitey” propaganda by a race baiting/race hustling black male. If anyone is racist here it’s this black firefighter, will anything be done about his racism?

  • Cheryl McMaken

    You might want to ask someone else on that one Sigmund, I was not able to see the full story on Mike Brown. I am sorry, I only heard very little on the matter and was distracted by my work. I do aplolgize.

  • g_man1

    Lets put this to rest…. shall we…. Sergio Romero is a frootloop dingus. He does not have a degree and not to bright… That being said, here is what can happen to the Fire Fighter that lied…

    He made several false statements to the media… By his own admission he went to the police department and filed a formal complaint. This is all fact and proven by video that he lied…

    Under California law he can be prosecuted for the false statement to the police. Basiclly he perjured himself and should be charged with perjury.

    When you make a complaint on a police officer. You make a written complaint and the complaint is notarized by a notary. It is now a sworn statement that you are telling the truth and you can be charged with perjury under that oath.
    Under California law the police officer can also bring a civil suit against the person for making a false allegation.

    A complainant should be aware that a peace officer, under provisions of 47.5 of the California Civil Code, may bring civil action against an individual who knowingly makes a false personnel complaint.

    In 1996, the California legislature added section 148.6 to the Penal Code. That section makes it a misdemeanor for a person to file an allegation of misconduct against a peace officer if the person knows that the report is false. In addition, the law enforcement agency who accepts an allegation of misconduct against a police officer shall require the complainant to read and sign the following advisory statement:

    YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER FOR ANY IMPROPER POLICE CONDUCT. CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THIS AGENCY TO HAVE A PROCEDURE TO INVESTIGATE CITIZENS’ COMPLAINTS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO A WRITTEN DESCRIPTION OF THIS PROCEDURE. THIS AGENCY MAY FIND AFTER INVESTIGATION THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WARRANT ACTION ON YOUR COMPLAINT; EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT AND HAVE IT INVESTIGATED IF YOU BELIEVE AN OFFICER BEHAVED IMPROPERLY. CITIZEN COMPLAINTS AND ANY REPORTS OR FINDINGS RELATING TO COMPLAINTS MUST BE RETAINED BY THIS AGENCY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT THAT YOU KNOW TO BE FALSE. IF YOU MAKE A COMPLAINT AGAINST AN OFFICER KNOWING THAT IT IS FALSE, YOU CAN BE PROSECUTED ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE.

    There is no more argument…. The guy is a POS liar. He is a race baiter. He thought he would cash in on the Ferguson case…. It just didn’t work out for him, thanks to the fact the officer had a body camera. Thank god the officer had the camera.

    This POS should be charged, but the police department will not do it. Hopefully the fire department will discipline the guy and make an example of him.
    This guy is a POS and is teaching his children how to lie and be afraid of the police. What a POS this scumbag is…
    Anyone that things this guy is not a liar is a frootloop dingus…

    • Sergio Romero

      Sorry, dipshit, once again, youre wong on every single count. A person will not face criminal prosecution for filing a false complaint in California. You dont even know how to do basic legal research.

      Plus you misuse the word “dingus” – thats how dumb you are – you cant even insult people without making yourself look stupid. Oh yeah, and you sure I dont have a law degree: http://www.empcol.edu/blog/introducing-part-5-empire-law-grads-2013

      You pathetic moron.

      • g_man1

        Sergio.. This will be my last reply to you…

        Just because you have a B.A. In criminal justice does not mean you know how the law works.. I would suggest that you continue your studies.. You might want to go talk to a prosecutor at the DA’s office and some police officers. You need to talk to people that are in the field and have been doing the job. You can volunteer all you like. That is great that you volunteer. That is how you are going to learn the law and how to interpret it.

        You have no real world experience and you really are clueless. I am glad you have a B.A. In criminal justice . But that degree does not mean you know what you are talking about. The degree is only a start. You still have to pass the bar exam. You have a long way to go to fully understand and interpret how the legal system works… Good luck on the bar’s… It will take you several times to pass it.. It is a very hard test.

        I meet many people that have degrees in law. They find out really fast that that degree doesn’t mean nothing. By talking with you and reading the little snippet… I believe you to be very young… Most likely in your early to mid 20’s. Sergio you have a lot of growing up to do. You have a lot to learn.

        You are very wrong on this issue. Sorry but you are very wrong. I know in your heart that you think you are right. That is good to believe in yourself… But sometime you need to step back and listen to other people…

        I am not going to tell you really any more about myself other than… I have worked in and around the court system longer than you have been on this earth.

        Keep up the fight… Go back to school and keep up with the case law… Good luck on the bar exam.. Study, study, study… It is hard.

  • mickfury

    How many times per day does this happen in the US? Cam up people!

  • Bruce Keyes

    This is sad, and unfortunately he is right Black males DO commit a large percentage of crimes, this officer should have heard what the man was saying and seen the truth of this, and I did hear a sincere apology from the officer. There is a protocol that officers must follow. As usual, this guy who is black takes any opportunity which seems to be what blacks do these days, to cry racist, at the drop of a hat, maybe if the guy was white the cops would have acted different but I doubt it, he was responding to a call, and he followed his protocol, and apologized afterward, what do they want.

  • bobbowen

    I think the dude should be a ex-fireman , this racist BS is getting out of hand , like Obama is the worst president ever not because he’s black because he’s just plan stupid black or white for which he’s both.

  • JMK

    It is akin to filing a false report, especially given that the false charges were so public. Moreover, like false rape claims, the real victims are those actual rape victims who face a much more skeptical and cynical public in the wake of such false charges. While such false charges made in the media may not be a felony, they probably should be, given the harm they do and the self-serving and all too often (for profit) motives of the false chargers.

  • Dan

    It’s good that he ran his camera but the department need to upgrade to night vision and anti shake. And they do need to have reprocuction for false reports of any kind.

  • Clarisse73

    This officer sounds very professional and kind. There are enough miserable arrogant cops around, why try and jam up a decent one? If this article is accurate, the father isn’t setting a very good example for his sons at all.

  • Neil Klopsch

    Termination without benefits. And prosecution. Attempting to incite a riot, giving false statements and defamation.

    • Sergio Romero

      Even if he did intentionally file a false complaint, hich I dont think he did, its not a crime.

      • calypsodancler

        You ARE a special brand of stupid aren’t you?

  • fastestflash

    I hope they (the public and officials) go after the fire fighter with the same vigor that they would’ve applied had his claims of racism were true. The police officer reputation could’ve been tarnished amongst his peers and the community had it not been for the camera. Everyone is so quick to speak of the racism that still exists in society, but where is the attention towards these false claims and accusation!

  • Douglas

    Jones should be punished for making false statements to the press. Jones is a poor example for his children.

  • rustar

    This loathsome man is teaching his children to hate. Shame, shame

    • calypsodancler

      Its the entire culture teaching their kids to hate anyone who isnt black

  • Apple

    Cop did nothing wrong and the man was looking for 15 minutes of fame and an easy cash lawsuit everybody loves to sue each other in LA. I doubt anything will come of this though.

  • MikeJ371 .

    Lying to investigators and filing a false report are crimes. And then there are libel and slander. He should be sued/prosecuted.

    • Sergio Romero

      Filing false complaint against police officer not a crime.

      • calypsodancler

        Whats your point? what about slander, defamation of character?

  • enrique

    He lied but he learned it froom the president so it’s ok

  • Becca Tart

    what a bunch of liars thank God the officer had a body cam this fire fighter should be fired and have to give a full apology and he should be charged for filing a false report and the kid is a cry baby

  • Christine P Cournoyer
  • Joe Macera

    The firefighter should be at least suspended by the Fire Department until he apologizes to the police officer and the citizens of Oakland. Here is a police officer doing EXACTLY what that firefighter would have wanted him to do: investigate a report of a burglary occurring at his fire stations. Geez, the lights were off and the firefighter was not in uniform. The officer calmed everyone down, asked for responding units to be “slowed down”, and APOLOGIZED to everyone once he verified the identity of the person walking in the fire station.

  • Michelle Mexicali

    I actually tried to call the Fire Chief. I asked… as a citizen when this man, Keith Jones, shows such a serious disregard for truth and honesty then how are we to trust him in our homes should an emergency exist?

    I was not permitted to talk to the fire chief. I was told she is aware and has no comment for citizens.

    She is black. Does that have anything to do with it? I do not know. What I do know is that she is not interested in talking to we mere… citizens.

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  • Anton Chigurh

    This firefighter is one rotten piece of sh*t. Blacks just looooove their victimhood don’t they–to hell with any semblance to reality.

  • Mahakala

    He should be fired from his job and sued by the police officer.

  • Mahakala

    The firefighter is a racist azzhole

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  • Rodney S

    The words ‘racist’ and ‘bigot’ mean nothing anymore. Just ignore them from now on.

  • Jose Ruiz

    The police chief should now call the fire chief out and say, now what?

  • KJ

    Smart Cop.

    Give this guy a medal for being smart enough to wear the camera. Probably for this very reason of false accusations. Will make a great police chief some day.

  • Anita L.

    Should be fired. Legitimate offenses of racism are serious and somebody just looking to make trouble and get on TV should suffer the consequences, especially someone on the public payroll like a fireman. We definitely hear the policeman apologize several times, even though his actions were by the book. This guy is teaching his boys to bend the truth also. BAD EXAMPLE. I am a black woman, but don’t believe in race baiting by any race.

  • Texan1st

    These new body cameras and other recording devices are going to be a thorn in the side of blacks that have gotten used to getting away with accusations of ‘racism’. Next up, police officers filing “defamation of character” lawsuits against blacks that accuse them of wrongdoing. Maybe then it’ll finally put a stop to all the bogus claims and police departments can spend that time investigating the few, real cases of racism.

  • sssuperrr1

    ‘groids and liberal-Democrats are the most racist species of human. What is mind-boggling is how the ‘groids religiously vote for Democrats, who for centuries have enforced slavery in America. Although indirectly, the still do so today in the form of welfare programs causing an invisible ‘glass-ceiling’ in any potential they could TRY to have…

  • Michael S. Parks

    He should be FIRED from the fire department. Have him suffer the fate that the police officer surely would have.

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  • Revillea mcIntire

    Keith Jones: How could you do this to your family and what are you teaching your boys? You are a liar. I can understand your position because when approached by the officer(s) you stated that you work for the Fire Department and he[officer] insisted that you do not move and raise your hands. I did hear that and apparently you did what he asked.

    It is the inferred INSULT you believe that you encounter and it incited you to subject yourself and your sons to this type of lie. You believed that if you say that you [a Black human being] and because you are an employee of the any business establishment that you are exempted from scrutinized by this racist country by saying that you are: a fire fighter, a lawyer, a doctor, a tea, a politician, a president, a police officer, a pastor, the mayor, a specific vehicle and you have the keys or neighborhood; your own business and you make be able to pull your keys out of your pockets as being proof; a player of the Raiders, etc.

    You felt insulted because you validated yourself by saying that “See I am in one of our vehicles!” And, he did not believe you and why should he??

    You know that it does not matter what or who you because as a Black man your RIGHTS are none to one. I understand your thoughts but with all the controversy in our society currently, we can’t defend you there, Brother! Why lie about it. You have other problems!

    You lied about the situation and I know where you come from when is it going to stop! Well when you stop feeling the pressure of lying. What was you thinking??? I leave you with this that is if you are reading and to others out there. Our Creator heard both sides and He know how you felt but even though it was true he camera feed you!

  • Colleen Hall

    Wow, looks like CBS pulled the video… That speaks VOLUMES!!!

  • John Holmes

    This is very typical of blacks that claim everything is racist. Its time to burst that lie right now. Thank goodness. Technology will always win.

  • Cara

    This is why legislation “Must” be introduced immediately to put an end to this tool of a word being used so falsely in many many instances across this nation. This culture of ppl. In our society using this tool of calling all “Caucasian” people racist needs to be stopped. The past 7-8 years this word “racist” is being used in massive false pretense against Caucasians and other races as well it’s being done to falsely label ppl. and cause them to lose their jobs, be bullied, it’s also causing instances where ppl. are getting attacked. It’s time the fake name calling game is over and stopped. You want to end the BS it can be done very easily simply pass laws making it a “felony” to falsely call a person a racist with no factual proof.

    Pass this law in all States and Finally you’ll see less racial violence, rioting, race bating, etc, and all races move forward. Guaranteed less racial crap will happen coast to Ciast. Also it should be a felony to incite a riot, buss in, move ppl. over state lines and/or finance a racial riot. As a nation we make it very clear that these laws will be enforced. If you accuse someone of being a racist you better have solid proof (according to the law prove it beyond a doubt) other wise you can face jail AND financial restitution.

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  • Patricia Kelley

    He should certainly be told to make an apology as big as his lie, in front of ALL THE NEWS CAMERAS THAT JUMPED BEFORE THEY KNEW WHAT WAS TRUE OR N OT TRUE. THEN HE ANSWERS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT !!

  • Warlord1958

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  • joe

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  • Catherine Guida Krostek

    He should be made to apologize to the officer, and then make a public statement about how his lies heated up the flames on racial issues, and that he is asking others not to following in his footsteps!

  • Justin Darcy

    Yayyy, racism is over!

  • Sharon Musgrave

    Way late on this topic, but what struck me in these videos is that this father, a community role model not only to his children but all the children and teens in his neighborhood, were just shown that it is alright to falsely accuse a police officer no matter if it was racial or not. When you are fighting fires in a riot zone… who has your back so it’s not rioters you have to fight also. Hand in hand people, share the glory, share the fight, make a better choice for your children to get it right and live a less hateful life.

  • Scotty P

    So, the officer apologized after following police procedures, now, IA is involved and the “victim” is saying the incident was “racist”?

    GTFOOH!!

  • Patricia Molinar

    What happens to people who file a false police report? I think the answer is quite clear. From FreeAdvice: Filing a false police report can lead to multiple criminal consequences. Many states call this charge “false report to a peace officer.” It is one of the few types of speech that is not constitutionally protected. Lying to a law enforcement officer can result in a criminal conviction.

    Depending on where you live and the extent of the deception, the criminal charge of filing a false police report can either be a misdemeanor or a felony. Cases that cause less inconvenience to police and other authorities tend to be classified as misdemeanors, while people who create greater confusion or harm by filing a false police report may face felony charges.

    Charges

    What is considered filing a false police report will vary slightly by state, but it’s generally what the name implies—lying to the police. Most people pick up a filing of a false report charge by make affirmative statements that are clearly false. For example, saying that your husband hit you as leverage to be used in a divorce, when he never committed an assault. This isn’t an uncommom example. However, filing a false report can also arise out of material omissions which create a false impression.

    Some people are tempted to omit certain facts under the “what they don’t know won’t hurt them” theory of disclosure. Continuing with the above example, if a wife calls the police and reports that her husband hit her with a rock, but intentionally leaves out that the rock was thrown when he ran the lawn mower over a rocky patch while doing the yard, then the omission would be a material omission leading to a false impression. It’s material because it explains the accidental nature of the contact, thereby creating the false impression of an intentional act.

    Fudging on facts or leaving out major details can lead to a false report charge. However, it can also lead to other criminal charges. For example, if a defendant filed a false police report claiming that their vehicle was stolen, when in fact they ditched the vehicle somewhere hoping that it would never be found because they wanted their insurance company to pay off the car note, then the filing of a false report would only be their first of several charges. The defendant could also be charged with insurance fraud or hindering a secured creditor. Other companion felonies include perjury, theft by deception, and securing execution of a document by deception.

    Who and why can also affect the severity of a filing of a false police report charge. Lying to the feds about anything is always a bad idea. False reports to a federal officer in an official investigation will invite a federal charge. Lying to cover another felony charge will not only result in a false report charge, but can also result in felony tampering or hindering apprehension charges. The severity of the false nature of the report will affect how a filing of a false report will be punished.

    Consequences and Penalties

    Minor infractions, like lying about a misdemeanor offense, usually results in a similar misdemeanor charge. Lying about felony offenses can result in felony level charges. Misdemeanor punishment can result in a sentence ranging from probation to a year or two in county jail. Felony punishment can also result in probation, but a much higher prison sentence, from two to ten years. Even though many people charged with the filing of a false report get probation, they sometimes forget to review the other collateral consequences.

    Many false report charges come with severe civil penalties. Defendants, like runaway brides, have not only been given stiff probations, they have also been ordered to reimburse communities that expended funds to deal with the crisis created by the false report. Defendants that lie during custody disputes can actually end up losing custody of their children if the lie is exposed. In addition to the criminal charges, a civil judge can also impose civil sanctions like the payment of attorney’s fees and contempt of court for filing a false report that is connected to a civil suit.

    Filing a false report can also result in a separate civil suit. Continuing with the car example, if a defendant lies about where their car is located, the insurance company could sue a defendant for reimbursement of expenses associated with recovering the car. If a defendant falsely accuses someone of crime, which resulted in their being arrested and/or losing their jobs, then a defendant could be held financially liable for defamation. In any filing of a false report case, a defendant could find themselves defending an expensive civil and a criminal suit at the same time.

    Defenses

    The bottom line is, despite how desperate your situation is, filing a false police report is not the answer and doing so can have long-term financial and criminal consequences. If you do file a police report and you later learn that information you provided was incorrect, contact the originating agency as quickly as possible to correct your mistake. The longer you wait, the more it will look like you were intentionally trying to deceive law enforcement. If you have been charged with filing a false report, contact a criminal attorney as soon as possible.

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  • Martin Walker

    One to three month suspension without pay.

  • Chris

    What a F’ing Liar! Seems to me we have another racist BLACK PERSON trying to make yet another FALSE claim. He should be fired! All of you other racist black people and left wing nut job white people who buy into all these lies, you know damn well the cop would have been suspended and possibly fired if he didn’t have this video. Jones needs to be terminated and his damn kids should be raised by a parent who doesn’t teach them to glorify their lying sperm donor’s story!

  • Mike Stern

    Fire this firefigther!!

  • R. Rumzie

    Mr. Jones’ sons appear to have been coached on what to say to the reporter during the interviewer so that they wouldn’t contradict their fathers’ viewpoint. Even though Mr. Jones may have thought that he was in the right, he obviously has no idea about proper police procedure. Did Mr. Jones wonder why the police officer was there to begin with? Did it occur to him that someone could have called the police as to a possible crime in progress? The police can never just take anyone’s word that they are who they say they are, they must assume the worst until all of the facts have been assesed. The officer acted in the proper procedure as his body cam shows and Mr. Jones is obviously accustomed to making the assumption that all whites are racists and because he is black he will be treated differently because of his skin color and he is passing his values on to his children. The solution to the problem could be as easy as cross training to see how the other job has to react to situations as they occur.

  • Dick Raymond

    And he got his kids to Lie to the reporter too! What a Scumbag Family!

  • Jim Jacobs

    He should be FIRED. Immediately!

  • mary witte

    this happened last August. The cop did it the right way Keith Jones how ever lied filed a false report and had his children lie for him. I have tried several times to find out what they did about his racist bullshit but no one has anything to say about a black man lying about a white cop, how strange

  • jm

    Walking home and noticed the door open at the fire station. Never should have entered the station. Should have called the police. Watched the station from out side to possibly ID any robbers. Put himself and kids in possible life threatening danger had there been thieves inside. Officer was responding to a call about a possible burglary at that location. Actions warranted.

  • jensopine

    I am amazed at this firefighter’s lies – his kids were scared, no doubt. But this clearly shows his story is totally off-base.

  • Anubis13

    Charged if any laws for this anymore and make a public apology. What a MOOK… Glad the officer had his body cam. Why anyone would want to be a police officer these days is beyond me. I salute them all.

  • Rick Mahaffey

    Fire him and jail time at least 90days!!!!

  • william rose

    fire this guy asap
    he flat out lied

  • Jay Hoffman

    Fire him.

  • lstarr55

    This isn’t a new story, but my take on how it relates to the boys. Their own father, whom they respect – look up to – apparently made them blatently lie about the officer’s actions and their own reactions. What has this taught them about racial relations? About human beings in general? About being honest, law-abiding citizens? They learned nothing good from his ignorance. Surely they lost a measure of respect for their own father, too. How sad for them.

  • Jeremy Waugh

    fired for doing his job? if there had been burglers and he stopped them he would be a hero and he did app

  • Ken Darby

    He should be fired and Jailed. Just what he wanted for The Officer!

  • Anthony Valenti

    If he lied about the situation and could have caused major problems for the Policeman and the city he should be fired!

  • Crunch Connors

    I guess for Liberals, having cops wear cameras isn’t a good idea after all, since they can’t spew their racist narrative. They would have to be accountable after all.

  • mary witte

    there is a small core group posting here that are more interested in insulting each other or telling us all how smart they are, please ignore them

  • Lockmazter

    For causing tension between FD & PD, who often rely upon one another on the job, he should be summarily dismissed. But we all know he won’t be, because, hey, that’s racist, right? SMH

  • allantool@aol.com

    The officer was polite so what the heck is Jones talking about?

  • Eric Carr

    So, is this story really all THAT different from all these videos of black men RESISTING arrest, resulting in harm and/or death? The authoritues have enough garbage to deal with-this liberal idea of “cops hating blacks” needs to stop. In 90% of these big cases, it’s a violent resistance met with lethal force; cops hate criminals; regardless of color.

  • ron

    charged with slander making false statement getting his young kids to lie about it this needs to be nipped but quick before it spreads more than it has already

  • Peter L Marzullo

    Michael J. Simmons Your response is the best. What you said is what should happen and then let the whole thing die in the archives of that first news channel that reported the story without obtaining ALL the facts to fit their left sided narrative.

  • catlady

    I hope mr jones loses his job over these LIES and you can tell he has trained his boys on what to say.

  • EEKKK

    Does anyone need a racist liar working for them? Especially in a profession where trust a comradely is essential. Been a fireman for more than thirty years and I would not work with it.

  • Mary Marx Lynch

    God’s got this. He has it all under control.

  • bumbug

    This man should of been fired as soon as this was exposed. How can his subordinates trust him? He is a down right liar. What a piss poor excuse for a “Father!” I think this happens much more than we know. Thank GOD for the body cam! Yes…there are plenty of “bad” cops. There are always going to be a few “rotten apples” in every barrel. No matter what profession. But to be in this position and down and out lie…He can’t be trusted! Fire his ASS! Talk about a RACIST THUG!

  • Mark Muylaert

    Fire his ass

  • Dave

    Whatever Happened to the firefighter?

  • Piggin Hard

    Blacks are the problem

  • Janet Dillon

    He should be charged with filing a false report and made to publicly apologize to the officer. I think a little time off without pay would be appropriate as well.

  • madalon baum

    He should be (at least) given an unpaid suspension. He owes the cop a public apology. What a jerk!! I believe that in light of all the “get the cops” sentiments, it would be very wise to have all of them wear body cams. It would be worth it and even eventually save $$ on legal bills for the cities.

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  • WanderingStray

    I wonder if the fireman was approached and offered pay (by Sharptonistes) to spread this lie.

  • Rick Saint

    I believe a serious reprimand is in order. He is a public official just as the officer is and should be held to a standard of excellence as such. He has embarrassed himself his community and his position and to get his kids involved is disgraceful. No wonder there is so much tension between the races!

  • 1frances1

    Seriously charges against Keith could and should go much deeper up to and including, reporting a false incident, slander and defamation. As a firefighter ( wrongly or rightly ) he is held to a higher standard by the community as are ALL first responders! His boys were well coached ( probably in their home ) as to how to react to a white officer. Pathetic parenting at best. Here I thought only white people were prejudiced!

  • Bill Morgan

    Fire him and ban him from any further government employment. The officer should sue him for defamation but would probably have a problem collecting any damages from a turnip.

  • Golfer1113

    A racist and a liar. The most unfortunate thing is that he is teaching two young men to be the same. We can only hope that they turn out to be better men than their father.

  • Rebecca

    This is old news, happened early last year maybe. What I’d like to know is how it turned out.

  • Robert Delrosso

    He should be fired he lied and disgraced his profession but I’m sure that it will slide after all he’s black can’t hold him responsible for his own actions scumbag raising his kids to be scumbags too

  • Megamimi

    Perhaps most disturbing is the indoctrination of the two young boys by their father who apparently ‘explained’ the event in such a way as to insure that his sons would pick up a mindset of hate and victimhood.

  • William Hoover

    I see a charge of falsely reporting an incident and maybe a fraud charge for his attempt to defraud the Police Department. You know this jerk wanted money at the Officer’s expense. Either way I think the Officer should sue this liar civilly for character assassination.

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  • Mike m

    Why is he not fired from the fire department?
    That cop should sue him, his sons, yes, name them in the lawsuit. He should also sue the fire department that employs him. I guess they’re afraid to fire him because he’s black.

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  • mary witte

    this video is from august of last year and I have not been able to find out what was done about his lie

  • The worst thing about this guy, is that he taught his children how to lie about racism….THAT is the hardest thing about this story…

  • dawn

    He lied. HE needs to apologize to the American people and especially this wonderful officer.

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  • James Pittman

    Im all for the mandatory public apology. I also think he need to be charged for making a false claim on a police officer. The example he is showing for his children is appalling. I myself and so sick of these racist people playing an imaginary race card that it is unbelievable.

  • joe

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  • RonKeffer

    He should be fired for not following orders of and Oakland Police Officer. Jones knows the problems that is happening all over the United States with blacks and cops. Is he on side of OPD or on the side of the citizens who are looting, stealing, and destroying property. It is unacceptable. Jones out and out lied to the police officer. OPD ask who else is in here and Jones said no one…..well his two kids were there…..

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  • David Barkin

    One wonders why Police oppose body cameras, when they can be used to exonerate them… 🙁

  • disqus_a3cEEbCswW

    A case where the body camera helps the officer…so WHY…WHY..WHY…are they so resistant too wearing them …because good cops dont have any problem at all. Which leaves only….hmmmmm?

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    Wow. First of all, I’m impressed with a rookie cop being as professional in a scary situation as this guy was. It looks like he did everything just as trained and had a great attitude, too. The fireman and his kids put themselves into a tough situation and were handled with the minimum of inconvenience. Sorry if your kids are traumatized. By coincidence, they and you looked like possible burglars to the cop responding to a burglary call. I wonder how traumatized they’ll be by your lies causing them to move to a 1 bedroom apartment after your slander/libel civil lawsuit. Life’s tough, but it’s made tougher by lying pieces of crap like you and you got caught red-handed at it. YOU didn’t give a crap about what you would do to the cop’s life and by rights, he SHOULD take you for every penny he can. You and our president and his Harpy-In-Chief partner and the whole administration should have learned years ago, WHEN SOMEONE pulls the race-card dishonestly, they discredit ALL THOSE who have been true victims of racism. I hope the cop takes a million of your dollars you lying POS! I’d sure love having someone so obviously un-trustworthy in my home or business responding to a fire. I wouldn’t count on much of a career as a city employee, either.

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    I imagine that in this day and age, with people so eager to believe that racism is everywhere, that this happens a great deal. Yet another reason that all police should have body cams in order to protect the rights of all concerned.

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    The person who made it a racial matter and who is the racist is the fire fighter. He said what he said and accused the officer because the officer was white. Doing something or saying something negative based on someones skin color makes them a racist. This was a black firefighter who lied about a white officers actions.. “victim of a racist cop who “views black males as a threat.”

    He owes the officer a PUBLIC apology and needs to do it with his children there so that they can see that the officer did nothing wrong AND what he (officer) did wasn’t based on what and why their father told them.

  • Mike

    The fire chief should apologize to the police chief. The fire fighter should

    apologize to the officer, and everything should go back to normal. Anyone who chooses not to apologize, should be dismissed from their job.

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    Get over it…The police officer was doing his job ..He apologized to the fireman ..So, stop using the race card ..It’s old…it’s dangerous and you,, Mr Jones should be ashamed of yourself..

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