NBA Legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Rips BOTH SIDES in Donald Sterling ‘Scandal’

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by Scott Aberdeen | Top Right Sports

The NBA players, media, and grievance mongers such as Al Sharpton are up in arms over vile L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling’s alleged racist remarks. But NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar today said a pox on both your houses — calling out the hypocrisy behind the whole affair and presenting by far the most rounded  — and surprisingly libertarian — view thus far.

Abdul-Jabbar, in an op-ed piece in TIME attacked the collective outrage emanating from America’s media over Sterling’s aremarks to his girlfriend, calling the publication of a private conversation “sleazy” and wondering why earlier, more public manifestations of racism failed to shock those such as Al Sharpton, and the NAACP.

Abdul-Jabbar explains that we’re witnessing a veritable “finger-wagging Olympics . . . all over the latest in a long line of rich white celebrities to come out of the racist closet.”

“Yes, I’m angry, too,” Abdul-Jabbar admits, “but not just about the sins of Donald Sterling. I’ve got a list.”

That list includes Sterling’s girlfriend, V. Stiviano, whose voice is heard on the racially-loaded tape and who likely set the Clippers’ owner up.

“Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out,” he mocked. “She was like a sexy nanny playing ‘pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.’ She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.”

And speaking of the news media? “They caught big game on a slow news day,” Abdul-Jabbar explained, “so they put his head on a pike, dubbed him Lord of the Flies, and danced around him whooping.”

The former NBA all-star, who played for the Milwaukee Bucks and L.A. Lakers from 1969 to 1989, has no sympathy for Sterling. But he is upset that everyone is acting so surprised, noting that the NBA owner has said offensive comments in the past and has been sued over both housing and employment discrimination.

The NAACP “did nothing” after Sterling was forced to pay a staggering $3 million fine for denying housing to Blacks, saying they “smell, and attract vermin,” Abdul-Jabbar noted. They were even going to present Sterling with an NAACP award on May 15th, with the Rev. Al Sharpton on hand. “Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?

Abdul-Jabbar is correct, but it is worse than that. The NAACP accepted multiple grants from the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation and handed Sterling several “image awards” — despite full knowledge of his prior, massive fine for discrimination against Blacks in his slumlord housing.

Abdul-Jabbar, perhaps channeling his closet libertarianism, also blasted the fact that Sterling’s private conversation — however racist — was suddenly broadcast nationwide.

“Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way?” he asked, comparing the secret tape-recording to Mitt Romney’s embarrassing 47 percent remark, recorded without the then-candidate’s knowledge.

“The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime,” Abdul-Jabbar fumed. “We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.”

“So, if we’re all going to be outraged,” the former NBA star wrapped up, “let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ and ‘Dancing with the Stars.’”

Brilliant.

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  • Wendy Brock

    Exactly!

  • Libertarian

    I like how not a single article I read on this EVER points to a link where one can find the audio.

    Why is that exactly?

    • http://TopRightNews.com/ John Urban

      TMZ and DeadSpin have “exclusive” audio clips of his PRIVATE conversations with her, which she obviously setup to screw him.

      • Libertarian

        I found one thnx. I just find it weird that most of the articles don’t cite the audio themselves. It’s pretty key.

        I agree it was a setup. She sounds like she’s reading from a script. The way she says baby and honey is so fake. I could never be with a woman like that.

        • KWilliams

          Well he was married, sooo you reap what you sow.

          • Libertarian

            Yes indeed. If you cheat on your wife with an incredibly slutty woman with no morals then you are asking for it.

          • Red47

            Are you thinking there is a type of woman who sleeps with a married man who is trustworthy?

          • Domestic Errorist

            We’re all basically good people, Red, or sumpin’ blond like that…

          • Red47

            Or, are we all basically not good, and have to be civilized by our society? I gotcher blonde and raise you one dye job.

          • infadelicious

            where is the blonde? I thought this was the latest girlfriend sterling bought… look at the teeth…. doesn’t that scare you?

          • Red47

            The inner blonde?

          • Libertarian

            Honestly the cheater is doing something more dishonest but it does take two to tango.

          • Red47

            In one sense, I agree. Both are not trustworthy. The cheater has broken the bond. The other sex partner has assisted. There is no honor in either person’s act.

          • Diane Perry

            I am. I am a trustworthy woman who (sometimes) sleeps with married men. (I have their wives’ permission)* but the person who broke trust was the married person. The wife should be mad at the husband, not at his mistress. That is deflecting blame.

            *usually

          • Mrs. Bogart

            Hold on a second. Did you just admitt to sleeping with married men, USUALLY with their wives’ permission? Seriously? Please say you’re kidding.

          • Red47

            Pretty much deflates her claim of being trustworthy.

          • Diane Perry

            No, it doesn’t. There are myriad circumstances and degrees of trust. In fact, you can trust me, one who discloses, or you can misplace your trust in someone who does NOT disclose things that would upset you.

          • Red47

            Your situation is not so much about trust as it is about deep pain. This is a discussion not to be had on the internet. Somewhere along the line your bonding mechanism was damaged. You are doing the best you can with what you’ve got. I hope for you to become whole.

          • Diane Perry

            Pfft. Thanks for the drive-by psychoanalysis – I’m sure you’re qualified to diagnose strangers you will never meet.

          • Diane Perry

            Yes, that is precisely what I wrote. It’s called polyamory or open relationships. I don’t want a ‘full time’ man of my own, so I borrow occasionally. I say ‘usually’ because while there has been a situation where I met the wife for coffee and conversation before obtaining her blessing, I don’t require it. I mean, there’s nothing that will stop a lying cheater from claiming he’s single when he may not be.

          • Joshua N

            Well there’s a difference between being duped by a cheater and knowingly (without the other’s knowledge or consent) rubbing another lady’s rhubarb.
            Ever read “The Ethical Slut”?
            It aught to be required reading for anyone thinking of a poly lifestyle. Worth it if you haven’t.

          • Mrs. Bogart

            I don’t care what made up name people like you give it, what it breaks down to is a deep seeded psychological problem, no moral compass at all, and a complete lack of respect for yourself and your fellow women. You, and all the other people like you, are whores. Whatever sad, painful, or disturbing thing that befalls you is karma and you deserve every last bit of it. If you have permission from the wife, then have at it. If you knowingly do another woman’s man, without her permission or without her being there to join in, and they are not legally separated, you’re a slut. There are plenty of single men out there that would be more then happy to have a non committed relationship. You don’t have to do married men, you choose to do married men, and that makes you lower than the gold digging tramp in this story.

          • Diane Perry

            So you say I’m a slut & a whore, but I don’t think I could be both. Slut is more appropriate, because I don’t get paid.

            You might want to spend a few moments analyzing why you are so hostile, judgmental and misogynistic and not worry about my life so much. I’m doing OK without your contribution, thankyewverymuch.

          • Joshua N

            Hate to break the news to you… but you aren’t trustworthy and you aren’t without guilt. Its kinda cute that you think so but you’re not.

    • kristine

      have been playing it over & over on the local news

      • Libertarian

        eh don’t watch much local news I live in a in low left kinda area….

  • JFKToo

    Just another example of why is the smartest man to ever play the game.

  • Phil Asophical

    This is why the man is a Hall of Famer at Life

  • aineliamfionanora4 .

    very wise man. All of these comments/questions need to vetted over and not the small clip here and there

  • stvjas

    he nails another Skyhook !!…………….Champion rings true !!

  • Nelson Stanley

    He burglarized my thoughts !!

  • Thomas Ross

    It is good to see a person tell it as it is. The only way to keep conversations personal, is to check all electronic devices at the door. I agree, he fell for the trap, hook line and sinker. Another case of a rich old person being played by a young leech.

  • MikeTX62

    The REAL news story here is that a BLACK person is calling out Al Sharpton’s race-baiting!!!

    • Shogun American

      where is the statement about him being an FBI sell out and coke dealer, on the back of being busted for cocaine trafficking in the 80s. One of Obama’s biggest “black” supporters.

      • Libertarian

        I wonder what happens when the people he put away get out haha.

        • John P Center

          mafia swiming lessons i bet

          • Libertarian

            lol

      • kellymbray

        Do you have a link to arrest record for the cocaine trafficking?

      • fuzzydunlop54

        And your point is??????

    • thatguy

      … she’s at fault more then anything ..

      • Hunter Hopkins

        LMAO

      • rquigl03

        Yes b/c he’s too feeble and stupid not to get caught up in a trap by a woman who clearly is only w/ him for his money. He’s clearly the victim.

    • GrandTango

      Jabbar is also calling out Obama’s NSA for invading the privacy of Americans. Jabbar is the Greatest to ever play in the NBA. He did it w/ different teams, as a rookie, and w/ different coaches.

      To find out he is not a lock-step, mind-numbed pop culture political pawn is refreshing.

      • david buck

        The NSA spying was approved by Republicans and signed into law by Bush. Obama is just president when the conservative decided they didn’t like a law that they passed.

        • pepjrp

          Many conservatives didn’t like the law going back to the Bush admin as well. Obama has taken it to a much different level.

          • Eric Stegner

            Prick.

        • numbtoyou

          The spying was approved and expanded under the dems control of congress and Obama. Wake up jackass

          • david buck

            It has always been my experience that when someone resorts to name calling it is because they cannot back up their point of view with facts. Please tell me what resolutions were passed that expanded the NSA’s domestic spying.

        • GrandTango

          Bush had a reputation for fighting our terrorist enemies, and used the LAW to do it…Obama has embarrassed America, spied on the innocent and persecuted political enemies in the US….

          Honestly: I trusted the Bush Administration to use any info. lawfully. I DO NOT TRUST Obama, because he is been seen as corrupt, and he does not represent America well.

          • DryGuy

            what law allowed for the invasion of Iraq?

          • GrandTango

            Congress approved that, Dumb@$$….and Obama claimed credit for Victory in Iraq…it was the highest point of his presidency…

          • DryGuy

            I disagree – not the high point of his presidency – I dont really recall a Victory dance out of him either but your fearless painter president claimed Victory long before it was over. No point in arguing with a troll like you, as you don’t care about the facts. Good day sir.

          • GrandTango

            Again: A lot of people – Democrats included- agreed to Obama-supporter Colin Powell’s advice to invade Iraq…..It’s only your hatred of Bush that vilified our soldiers, so you could elect the Obama, the worst president in my lifetime. You are disgusting to politicize the dead…but you don’t acknowledge and admit the mess you made of this country.

          • libsbite

            Your the troll dimwit! Check billy Clinton’s lies in office! You will find Iraq ! Or was that not a lie then!

          • Meekrob

            Translated: “You guys really kicked my ass so I’m running away now.”

          • Dale Nye

            Obama doesn’t paint? He did do the victory dance over terrorism a lot too early though.

          • IntellecT!!

            BAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAA GrandTango your Entertainingly dumber than a second coat of paint. Economy BOOMING under Bush BAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAHAHA where did you watch that on FOX???? Continue please very entertaining!!!!

          • GrandTango

            FOX actually is more likely to buy the DNC farce of a poor economy under Bush…But US workers had rising salaries, vast job opportunities (low unemployment) low fuel costs, lower taxes, and little inflation under Bush..We flourished…

            But most Liberal idiots are too stupid to digest that..because it is not fed to you by the puppet masters and media who use you for their greed and power…

            Sadly, Your ignorance is my problem, because you elected Obama, and he has made a total mess of the country…

          • rquigl03

            Yes! Flourished! I mean that whole recession thing that was predicted back in 2006 b/c of Wall Street corruption and de-regulation starting with Saint Ronnie and pushed hardcore by Bush was just a mirage! It wasn’t caused by any of the policies in place. I’m waving my fingers so don’t see it!!

          • GrandTango

            If liberals did not have lame excuses, you’d have nothing…..

            Obama is a failure and you are not very smart for swallowing the crap he and the media are feeding the ignorant…Just face it…

          • rquigl03

            How do you know how I feel about Obama? And you calling me names and talking in hyberole does nothing to dispute what I just said. This isn’t Fox News. The voices in your head don’t count as “facts.” If you don’t have something w/ facts to refute what I said, be quiet.

          • GrandTango

            Your analysis, and ignorance, reveal you to be a Dumb@$$. I’m not name calling…just accurately describing you…

          • rquigl03

            Again, you’re doing nothing to attack my analysis besides calling me names. That’s because you can’t attack it so you attack me. It’s quite typical of folks like you and I’m used to it. You’re not very bright are you?

          • GrandTango

            Take the descriptions of you out, if that makes your feel better. But my assessment is still solid. You’re likely not used to being shown reality…

          • johnschuh

            Bush claimed victory in the campaign to overthrow Saddam. Bush’s problem was that he left a political vacuum. That, apparently, because his administration was divided, unable to decided which Iraqi faction ought to be give the keys of power. Instead we get an incompetent American viceroy and a reconstruction regime that could not manage the clashing religious factions and several insurgencies in a gun rich country with too few troops to keep the peace.

          • GrandTango

            Sounds like you are a victim of being dumbed down by believing what the media wants you to believe, w/ little ability to think for yourself.

            Iraq was a country that was rich on oil buying nuclear bomb technology, real nice to terrorists and threatening to Bomb us o kingdom Come…It had a mad man in charge, ho had murdered a million, and would murder more…

            Today Iraq holds its 4th election. And I know some of their elections have attracted a higher participation rate than in the US. ABIG Change…

          • johnschuh

            Bush actually left the country in pretty good shape, but that was after the Surge. I do not understand why his administration let the situation drift for so long before taking decisive action. Maybe it was timing, maybe the Surge would not have worked earlier, but I have never understood why they pulled out the invasion force so soon, rather than after enforcement by the follow on troops, of whom my son was one, try to pacify the country with numbers too small.

          • Joe Gerber

            The 13 UN resolutions and the Cease Fire agreement that allowed the use of military force if Saddam did not cooperate with the UN inspectors and adhere to the rules set forth in those resolutions. Also, the approval of Congress, voted for by Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, among others. Any other questions?

          • DryGuy

            Laws based on known lies lack legitimacy.

          • libsbite

            That information came from billy Clinton and al gores administration! Remember rhey called out for war first!

          • John P Center

            saddam committed mass murder against the kurdish civilian population not a lie you fool

          • RICKY!!!!!!!

            U too funny, America went to Iraq when it was benefical for them, they didnt care about kurds or civilians when they supported Saddam back in the day.

          • Guest

            Exactly!!! Using what you might ask??? Sarin Gas

          • Brock Heubusch

            Hi nameless guest,

            Although I know it’s not your fault that your mom couldn’t coathanger herself well enough to abort you as a child, it is your fault that you remain so incomprehensibly stupid.

            It is a known fact that Saddam Hussein utilized mustard gas on 100K kurds in one day and was an active war criminal. Regardless of the weapons, removing him from power was the right thing to do.

          • Rory

            you wrong about that coathanger stuff…smh

          • Eric Stegner

            “You wrong?” ROFLMWAO

          • Todkahdohs Nunya

            would that be like “if you like your policy, you can keep your policy”, “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” or “I will NOT raise taxes on the middle class” ????

          • Dale Nye

            Sounds a lot like “climate change” to me and “Obamacare” too for that matter. What is your point?

          • Eric Stegner

            Bill Clinton said Iraq had WMD’s and he was president BEFORE Bush. did Clinton lie????

          • Eric Stegner

            You need help with your hate. Please get it before it causes a stroke.

          • Memphomaniac

            …I knew he’d have NO facts to argue. Sad, mind numbed, media matters, twit.

          • GrandTango

            Thanks Joe. You are exactly right. These America-hating Democrats have a bad case of politically-convenient amnesia.

          • John P Center

            as well as the iraq regime change law which clinton signed into law

          • Carlos Jorge Rodriguez

            There was no law, or UN approval for that
            invasion and genocide… If you are going to pretend to be a smart ass, at
            least get your facts right!

          • Elena Ferrante

            Yes, there was, and most of the fools voted for it.

          • Memphomaniac

            ..like Senator Hillary Clinton, and Senator John Kerry? They had the same information that was provided to The White House.

          • Carlos Jorge Rodriguez

            There was no declaration of war, there was some “permission” to use limited force,but in the case of a full scale invasion, they needed a war declaration…still I get your point Elena, the US government doesn’t really care for international law or respect for its own constitution.

            Sadly we forgot that the topic was racist Sterling and his gold digger “girlfriend”… no body is innocent in this story.

          • Dale Nye

            What invasion and genocide are you speaking of? As for the Iraq war, like it or not Congress did approve, the UN approved and a coalition of countries approved.

          • rquigl03

            There was no declaration of war you stupid moron. There are only 5 declared wars for the US–The War of 1812, The Mexican-American War, Spanish-American War, World War I, and World War II. What was passed was a resolution AFTER we’d already gone in, which is done to bypass the declaration (which is actually really contrary to what we should be doing as a country and completely trashes our Constitution). And it was for LIMITED force, not a full-scale invasion. The UN did NOT approve of what we went in there and actually did versus what they thought we were going there for. That’s why their support was pulled pretty quickly. And a lot of nations did NOT approve of what we went in there and actually did versus what they thought we were going in there for. That’s why a lot of nations that supported us and sent troops pulled them out pretty quickly.
            It’s amazing how ppl get off topic so quickly and then can’t even get facts straight when they do go off topic.

          • John W Tobin

            Ahh! Good old UN resolutions, clinton and kerry. All as American as baseball and mom’s apple pie. (Said with as much sarcasm as possible!)

          • dchris24

            Game, set, match. Another unarmed lefty gets worked.

          • Maybe

            What’s Kerry doing in Ukraine?

          • libsbite

            The congress allowed it. Remember! Dimwit!

          • John P Center

            under the clinton admin. they passed and he signed the iraq reqime change law my guest

          • Sid Pass

            Resolution 1441

          • Eric Stegner

            It was passed by Congress which included most democraps.

          • Hob Boner

            Trusted Bush more then Obama you republicans are so insane ! Ge whiz it was Bush that lied to the UN and congress started an unnecessary war in Iraq resulting in the deaths of over four thousand Americans. Yet you trust Bush over Obama wtf !. Less Americans have died in foreign conflicts under Obama then under the Bush administration, less Americans have died due to terrorist attacks under Obama then Bush, more Americans have health care coverage under Obamas administration then Bush, you republicans are brainwashed.

          • GrandTango

            “You can keep you coverage if you like it”…and Obama told us “it would cost less,” too….Hahahahaha…You liberals may fool yourselves…but I’m not as stupid as you MUST be…

          • cbillrun

            The brainwashed are the nutty libs. You really think
            Obama is better than bush? I have a nice bridge to sell you.

          • Dave Geek

            Exactly. Both are bad and the arguments from both sides as to who was worse are pointless. It’s like arguing what animal’s feces you would rather eat, a cow’s or a horse’s.

          • Brian Carter

            lmao Dave! Right!?!

          • Brock Heubusch

            Obama raped the constitution, any semblance of goodwill we held with the international community, the geneva convention, and all standards of human decency.

            He is far worse than Bush and I didn’t like Bush to begin with.

          • Geoff

            As a non-american…I find America more likable under Obama than Bush. Just sayin…Bush made you guys look stupid…my 12 year old nephew had a better vocabulary than Bush.

          • GrandTango

            I’m sure you liked Germany under Hitler, better, too. Nazi gone hate…

          • Elena Ferrante

            So did my 5 yr old yorkie. But, you shouldn’t judge an entire country by its leadership. We have been led by useless sellouts for decades

          • Meekrob

            Wow.

            Project much?

          • WIINGY

            they both are/were for the corporations not the people. Bush started the invasion of privacy and Obama expanded it. Rep or Dem it doesn’t matter the longer they have the masses rooting for one team or the other the better for them.

          • Kerry Watkins

            Well said!

          • Henry Rearden

            575 US troops died in Afghanistan during the Bush presidency. By August 18, 2010, following two troop surges initiated by President Obama, that number had doubled. Today, over 1500 US troops have died in Afghanistan since President Obama took office—and yet, little in that war-torn country has changed.

          • Mike H

            Hob, nothing that you just wrote there is factual. Do you know that?

            Bush didn’t, in fact, “lie”.
            Bush Didn’t, in fact, start an unnecessary war.
            More Americans have, in fact, died under Obama
            Fewer Americans, in fact, have healthcare.

            Look things up my friend. Please

          • Hob Boner

            You conservatives live in your own bubble and nothing penetrates it. It is not even debatable that more Americans died in foriegn conflicts under Bush then Obama, it is fact. It is not even debatable that more Americans died due to terrorist attacks under Bush then Obama it is fact. It is not even debatable that Iraq was a war of choice and Bush misrepresented the facts to congress and lied to the UN it is a fact. I am not sure where you were during the Bush years but it seems that you were asleep at the wheel. Next your giong to tell us that 911 happened during Clintons watch.

          • Mike H

            First, I’m not a conservative. I’m actually an Independant. I’ve voted for both Democrat and Republican depending on how they conducted themselves pertaining to the issues important to me at the time.
            Having said that;
            Clinton started the push to remove Sadam Hussein in 1998.
            From 2001 to 2008, 3947 US Servicemen,Women perished in Iraq, 741 in Afghanistan. 2008 to present, 1252 in Iraq, 3765 in Afghanistan. http://www.icasualties.com
            Bush represented to the UN exactly what Congress, a Democratically controlled Congress, represented to the American people. It was widely regarded as one of the most important BI-PARTISAN decisions in the history of the US.
            As for 9/11, it is a known fact that both the CIA and the State Department had repeatedly warned Clinton about 9/11. 9/11 happened only 9 months after Bush had been swarn in and only 5 months after officially taking office. However, the terrorists trained for over two years while under the watchful eye of our beloved Bill Clinton. It’s not a stretch to state that it happened on Clinton’s watch. No more of a stretch than to say that the big bank and Wall Street crimes that happened under Obama were the result of Bush’s administration.
            I prefer facts over rhetoric and I search for the data to support those facts. I would suggest that you might want to do the same before A. Labeling someone that you don’t know and B. Stating the MSM B.S. as fact.

          • Hob Boner

            Clinton goal was to contain Hussain he had n intention of starting a war. The war in Iraq was a total sham by the Bush admiistration it had nothing to do with WMDS it had to do with oil and Saddaam undermining OPEC and Bush Saudi pals. As far as 911, Clinto held daily security meetings with Robert Gates regarding terrorism but ush thought these meetings were no longer neccessary after he became President. As far as the Banks and Wall street failures this appened during Bush not sure where you so called independents, who are actually further to the extreme right then republicans get off rewriting history

          • Shane DiMaio

            I took a lot of time to write this next paragraph with extreme attention to grammar, insightful information and no generalizations or blanket statements whatsoever. Everything is 100% factual and in NO WAY mis-informed:

            Bush had a reputation for fighting our terrorist enemies, and used the LAW to do it…Obama has embarrassed America, spied on the innocent and persecuted political enemies in the US….

            Honestly: I trusted the Bush Administration to use any info. lawfully. I DO NOT TRUST Obama, because he is been seen as corrupt, and he does not represent America well.

          • Guest

            So you would rather trust a group of people who are blatantly racist (Republicans and Tea Party people alike) than trust a man who is trying to clean up the mess made by an idiot fighting a war that was really a grudge his father had? Ok. SURE!! That certainly makes sense. And, as an African American woman, I agree with What Mr. Abdul- Jabbar said, but I can also see the other side of the coin. Does it make racism acceptable simply because you say it in a private conversation? Racism is racism, no matter if you say it at home or if you put it on a billboard. Sterling’s past is just as shady as his present so I can certainly see how people giving Sterling’s behind too many chances to change his ways was a very bad decision. But, that conversation being made public has only made people mad in the same way that removing the pointed hoods of the Klan makes them mad too.

          • Henry Rearden

            Your generalization of Republicans and Tea Party people as racist has rendered the rest of your statement moot.

          • david buck

            Bush went around the laws to spy on citizens only getting warrants AFTER finding out information. Do you remember the Republicans saying that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear?

          • GrandTango

            Bush did not get caught spying on a reporter, like Obama…nor has he used the IRS to persecute political enemies, who are American citizens…

            When you get me a case of Bush spying for something other than to catch threats to our security, call me. Your guy, Obama, is a criminal. Bush was doing his job. There’s a BIG difference.

        • PokerBear

          What a numbskull. Spying on a handful of Americans communicating with known terrorists overseas might be a tad different than collecting information on every phone call in america. The real hypocrisy though is that democrats objected to it, but don’t say a word now to NSA data collection, IRS persecution, EPA non-sense, a politicized justice dept, and a president who wants to be king.

        • Dale Nye

          Obama is continuing it so what exactly is your point? You have none except “your guy did it too” like some child. Many conservatives, not to be confused with Republican, were NOT for the spying, the Patriot Act and much more. Get your facts straight before you slander a group of people you don’t know anything about.

        • CLL

          The spying wasn’t approved for PRIVATE CITIZENS! Obutthole owns that!

        • Kerry Watkins

          Exactly!!!! Stop trying to Blame Obama all the freaking time Geeeezs!

        • Brian Carter

          Everyone under this comment arguing over which side pissed on you and told you it was raining is dumb! They both use you all like puppets to race to voting polls, stand in the rain, cold, heat, etc. and wait to press a button. You do it over and over and still lose out on your freedoms, pensions, etc. lol smdh. The article went way over your heads. #dumbasses

      • Hob Boner

        The NSA would have been spying on Americans regardless who was President, If the technology is there it will be used regardless, it was the Patriot act that opened pandoras box and once opened it is hard to close.

        • GrandTango

          Again: Obama has been CAUGHT Targeting his political enemies w/ the IRS, and spying on a reporter, and Lord knows who else….

          Bush was guilty of trying to find and prosecute TERRORISTS…Just because you, and Obama, side w/ the Terrorists, does not make it right…

          Face it: Obama is a Failed and Corrupt man that you worship as a god, so are blind to all of his lies, ignorance and bad judgment.

          • cbillrun

            I do it but it is a giant waste of time. The religion of the left precludes them from ever seeing the truth.

          • Meekrob

            That and the fact that they have their heads lodged in their own large intestines.

          • WIINGY

            Why keep defending Bush? They both are corrupt corporate pawns. The fact that Bush was too stupid to realize that signing the Patriot Act was unconstitutional and against everything he ran for office on is not an excuse.

          • GrandTango

            Bush was not perfect, but the economy BOOMED under him…and he is Pro-American…Now we have a president more aligned w/ those who hate us, than Americans.

            And: The biggest problem w/ the Patriot Act is the cost. If Patriots, instead, of Obam-ites, run it, It’s not a bad idea on merit…

            I’d love to have Bush back as president. The idea that Republicans are as corrupt as democrats is very simple-minded, not true and irresponsible. It’s a cover for failed democrats, too…

            HW Bush was too moderate, but America worked under W. He just tried to please too many democrats and spent too much.

          • disqus_LJj4uJgP1Y

            “Bush was not perfect, but the economy BOOMED under him” This is where I stopped reading because its pure BS. Where you living under a rock when Bush was president? The economy sucked when he was in office and we were losing 700,000 jobs a month when he left office.

          • Frank Antony L. Harvey

            Just wanted to take a sec to interject. How in the hell did we go from Kareem Abdul Jabbar talking about the Donald Sterling soap opera to comparing the fallacies and short-comings in three different Presidential administrations. Focus! LOL

          • Elena Ferrante

            You left out incompetence, weak leadership, pathetic foreign policy, and shredding of the constitution…

      • johnschuh

        He seems to have a great sense of humor. Remember him in “Airplane.”

    • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

      If you think that’s the REAL news story you need to get a few black friends and chat with them on a regular basis. We don’t all think the same and have the same life experiences.

    • Anderw Gomez

      My man u miss the boat that is not the real story

    • GSpotter1

      As well as the NAACP for taking the man’s money after they knew he had issues. Greedy bastards don’t really care about justice, they just want the money….Sharpton and Jackson are the same way. It’s about making bank while keeping the masses stirred up over the most ridiculous crap you can think of. And many who are black have said much worse, but nothing ever seems to get said then, now does it…

      • Tai Mega

        Well if I owned a team and employed white players, and a white coach and staff, then there would be issues, but when blacks make comments, they often have no money or power to effect a white persons well being. that power, then the comments are what make him a racist. Taking opportunity, whether employment, safety, etc, to negatively impact someone solely based on race is the problem.
        Maybe only Oprah could be a black racists, I’m sure employs plenty of white people.
        Smile…

        • Bill M

          So, by your logic, if I’m not employing someone else, I can be as ignorant, racist and bigoted as I want and not be seen as racist? This only applies to rich white people? Rich black people, Oprah notwithstanding, can also be racist, but in your world “LOL J/K Not for realz!” ??

          Explain to me your double standard. Racism is racism, and has nothing to do with social or economic status. It has to do with being hateful towards someone else simply because they’re a different pigmentation than you, or were born in another part of the world.

          • Tai Mega

            Anyone can be a bigot or prejudiced, but to be racists you have to have some level of power or influence over the lives of those you are racists against. Sterling has black employees and black tenants. Racism, bigotry, and prejudiced are 3 different words with different implications. If Oprah made those comments about being around white people, I’m sure she would lose the support she has enjoyed for decades. But to further answer your question, being rich helps, but more so the ability to negatively impact the lives of those your racism applies too makes that person a racist. You know nothing about my world, sorry you were misled.

          • Brian Hickman

            Before you throw words around, learn their meaning. The poorest, least-empowered low-life of any color may be racist.

            racism or racialism
            — n
            1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others

            2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

          • elliott rice

            sorry to tell you tai but you dont have to have any power or influence over someone to be considered racist….I could right now based on your name you are probably Indian..now i just sterotyped you based off of your name and that sir/madam is a form of racism…

          • Tai Mega

            Such a foolish response, as racism has impact on education, employment, security, etc. Your satire has no impact, besides the chuckle you provided yourself. You may be stereotyping, or using your prejudiced mind to draw some far fetched conclusion.
            Sad

          • Brian Carter

            Actually it’s wealth and prejudice that apply power over others to prevent them from obtaining a certain goal, keeping them from climbing out of poverty, and achieving any level of security to support their family. Not racism.

        • John McDonald

          Did you just say most blacks have no money? What a racist thing to say.

    • Calm_Down_Everyone

      There are plenty of BLACK people that can’t stand Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson (myself included). Stop believing stereotypes!

      • Brian Sheehan

        “Jesse Jackson is NOT the emperor of black people!!!”

        – South Park character Token Black (from the episode where Randy said the n word).

      • L E

        THANK YOU! I’m so sick and tired of people assuming that Sharpton and Jackson are the spokespeople for the black community! They’re not!!!!!!! If that were the case, they would’ve taken care of Chicago, Detroit and other cities that are suffering! They don’t care!

    • Pablo Sanchez

      That’s not true. No one pays him any attention, he is a charlatan and a buffoon. Most black people know that.

      • Meekrob

        I’m guessing you’re too young to remember the Tawana Brawley hoax.

    • Layton Harman

      What about Shaq’s mocking of a young man with a physical condition? Is Adam Silver and The NBA going to address that? http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • amandacq

      Because, of course, all black people think that Al Sharpton is our king. Brilliant.

      • Meekrob

        Nope, but far too many do.

    • 6miles_away

      You guy can argue about democrats vs republicans, liberals vs conservatives, Bush vs Obama but the fact of the matter is congress only cares about corporations. They run Washington. So while you all participate in this pointless internet debate they are busy buying congress. How about you guys come together and try to improve america instead of standing by your political party like a gang member.

    • throbbin_bitchcock

      The actual article by Kareem doesn’t even mention Sharpton. Nice reading comprehension, though!

    • Layton Harman

      —-
      Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • melissa smith

      I know and have so much more respect for Kareem now.

    • Michael Stott

      many are and have been …

  • kristine

    Finally, some sanity in an insane world! Brilliant Mr. Abdul-Jabar!

  • John Anderson

    I have always respected Kareem from the UCLA vrs. USF days, when I was there. A man of integrity refuses to follow the crowd and their easy, biased opinions. it’s so easy to jump on the bandwagon, and I respect Kareem, as a leader in the black community, for not doing so. was Sterling wrong…….it certainly appears so, but Kareem sees the hypocrisy of the timing and brings the best viewpoint to the controversy I’ve yet seen.

    • Layton Harman

      - What about Shaq’s mocking of a young man with a physical condition? Is Adam Silver and The NBA going to address that? http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

      • 6miles_away

        I dont think shaq is affiliated with the NBA.

        • Shane DiMaio

          He actually owns part of the Sacremento Kings…

        • Collinsdad

          Shaq is a commentator. His face is synonymous with the league.

          • Layton Harman

            He owns part of the Sacramento Kings, so he is in fact tied with the league

        • Steve Dave

          What? Are you being serious?

          • Layton Harman

            Yeah, I’m serious.

          • Jackson Rogers

            Steve Dave replied to 6miles_away

        • OhSoRight

          Shaq is part owner of the Sacto Kings. In his playing days, he revealed his homophobia by calling the The Queens.

          • Melvin Hagerman

            That was a play on the team’s nickname (Kings) in the days when Kins-Lakers was a hot rivalry….

          • OhSoRight

            That was a homophobic play on the Kings name.

      • San Antonian

        How about we talk about all those “Hispanic fat women” “jokes” Charles Barkley says every damn time the Spurs are in the playoffs? What about all his negative comments about the city of San Antonio?

        • Layton Harman

          You’re right, and the question is, why doesn’t the media make any uproar about it?

          • Brian Hartman

            Do you really have to ask?

          • Guest

            Because there is a double standard. Also, web analytics — you get more clicks when it’s a white on black controversy.

          • Rascal McDoogle

            It all about money, always is…..from all sides….good old fashioned greed…

          • Ryan

            Well, a lot of the reason the “double standard” exists is because of the differences in power. Shaq, while a celebrity, is a player for the team, while Sterling is owner of the team. They are held to different standards because of the difference in their position.

          • Jeff Doernbrack

            shaq has a bigger front than sterling…

        • GodsSon521

          “They got some big ol’ women down there” – Usually what he says when referring to Texas women. Guess I missed the one where he singled out Hispanics…

          • ben shcroder

            oh you didnt’ know? its okay when people that are not white make racist jokes, it’s only offensive when the person is white you should know this cmon,

          • GodsSon521

            Did you reply to the wrong person perhaps? Your comment had nothing to do with mines. Then again, it is complete bullsh*t, so I’d be surprised if it had any relevance whatsoever…

        • Francisco Jimenez

          False.

        • Yomi

          Did you seriously just compare what Barkley said with what Donald Sterling said??? Get real, You are a moron if you think its a double standard.. Charles is not a racist, yea he has a poor sense of humor.. but in no way is it comparable to a guy who thinks he was running a plantation and had hidden racism for years which is the worst kind.. so please make sense before you post..

          • Observer

            But, in reply to this Sterling thing Barkley said this is why he hates white people.

          • Tony Hamrick

            Barkley should be banned from the NBA for life. Equal opportunity here.

          • Day

            Barkley married a white woman. He isn’t racist.

          • Bill

            Sterlings girlfriend that reco.rded him is half black and half Hispanic, he must not be racist either

          • c684570

            He isn’t. He just finds Black people annoying.

          • You wish you knew

            Which ones? The poor or the basketball players that’s making all that money for his ass…I would love to know!

          • E.F. Coleman

            Anyone that can take his jump off girlfriend he is afraid of them. Any young black man , rich, famous or poor.

          • Gill Grant

            Man know the facts before you post.

          • papapeach

            mostly asian, also no girlfriend, ‘mistress’ which means he hides her from the world

          • Jeffrey Swain Griffith

            I would just like to know why nobody is trying to get to the bottom of who made and released the tape. Recording someone without their knowledge in the State of California is a felony. Why are no charges pending on this gold digger?

          • Arlene

            Of course that’s the most important thing to you. You must be racist yourself.

          • Jeffrey Swain Griffith

            Yep, the right to privacy is way more important to me than whether or not some eighty year old billionaire elitist was saying racist comments in the privacy of his own home. If it’s not to you then you are just a sheep, because these types of scandals only exist to train you to passively accept the loss of your civil liberties,

          • Ronnie Armstead

            WHERE U BEEN CIVIL LIBERTIES WE LOOSE EVERY FOUR YRS

          • http://www.spreaker.com/user/bud1 William A. Ellis

            it was his girlfriend..traitor in da house

          • Arlene

            Apparently you do not know your history. If you can recall the slave masters often slept with the slaves and we ALL know they were racist. Open a book sometime.

          • Hope is not a battle plan

            What does slavery have to do with racism again?

          • You want facts

            and thank god the republicans freed the slaves even know every democrat voted to keep slaves ,slaves

          • E.F. Coleman

            He’s afraid of young strapping black men. Believe me he would have no problem is “visor girl” brought pretty young black girls into his games.

          • Ronnie Armstead

            REMENBER HE SAID SHE WAS NOT BLACK , HE SEEM TO NOT NOT THIS,

          • bsa1313

            ALL CAPS ARE NOT NECESSARY FOR EVERY POST YOU WRITE.

            See, lowercase reads just fine. Stop yelling.

          • FACESIKNOW

            using caps is less work!

          • Tiffany

            Checkmate.

          • Derek Torp

            and sterling’s girlfriend was half black, way to make a point tony…. not.

          • skidrawk

            aren’t klan members married to white women?

          • pepjrp

            Not sure as there are not many left. Good question.

          • James

            That’s like saying your not racist you have color tv

          • skeenaflyfisher

            you’re, for crying out loud.

          • Monkay Mune

            lol .. doh……….

          • Jay Bird Taylor

            I am soooooo stealing this as a punch line to a joke if you don’t mind.

          • Chandra Williams

            hilarious!!!

          • Chris McCoy

            I disagree with that, some black racist men will marry white women its a power thing, a dig at the (man) persay

          • MS47

            Pardon me, smarty pants, but it’s “per se.” It’s Latin. You might want to look it up.

          • Charlotte Tremaine

            LOL #2slow2know

          • Dan

            Ha ha… no. That is not why.

          • You wish you knew

            how would you know?

          • c684570

            Stop posting on here. Barkley is racist.

          • HollywoodHick

            A non sequitur if there ever was one.

          • me

            Gay men marry women also ?

          • E.F. Coleman

            He can still hate them and be married to a weak minded kardashian type.

          • E.F. Coleman

            I’ll bet he treats her like he hates her, and her family.

          • FACESIKNOW

            Sterling hired and paid black players well, and had a mixed race girl friend, so he isn’t racist either!

          • George Grothusen

            That was 20 years ago, and it was a joke. Equal opportunity my left foot.

          • Tony Hamrick

            Still think the Commissioner has painted himself in a corner. Do you you think if LeBron James makes a racist comment tomorrow he would be banned for life? From now on if any owner, coach, or player makes a racist comment he must ban them for life. Punishment seems to be a little harsh. I’m sure a long legal battle is coming if Sterling don’t die first.

          • sickofit

            And any owner making such a comment should damn well be banned for life. LeBron does not own a team that consists of minority players contracted to play under such conditions. WTH is so hard to understand about this?!!! “Harsh punishment”, my ass. What is wrong with people?!!!

          • LadyScot

            Well, honey, all those poor blacks never minded taking all those millions from that rich slave massa now did they for decades now did they?

          • George Grothusen

            This wasn’t simply a racist comment, which would be bad enough. This was a tirade that spoke to his deepest feelings about non-white people and maybe worse, his slave mentality. He feels like he owns those who work for him. If he had dropped an N bomb and had no prior record of this behavior it would be a completely different situation. If Mark Cuban (who despite his antics is well respected by his players and community) had made a digression you would see his players, fans, and peers speaking on his behalf. All we heard were crickets in Sterling’s defense. Each case is different. You can’t make a blanket statement to cover any situation regarding race issues. Bottom line, good job NBA.

          • Tony Hamrick

            The NAACP hadn’t seemed too concerned about his past record related to race. Giving him awards in ’08 and ’09 after he had lost a racial discrimination lawsuit. I agree with Kareem. It’s like giving him the death penalty for armed robbery. I imagine if he decides to fight it he’ll win. I would say fine him the max and suspend for a year or two.

          • You want facts

            naacp are just like sharpton and jackson. As long as you cut them checks racism is just fine. All about money nothing about racsim. Sharton,jackson and obama have done more harm to the black community then the kkk. the kkk was dispicable yes but for people to say there in it to help end racism but then as long as you right them big checks they forget about the racism.

          • Nick Zaharias

            George – you’re a retard.

          • George Grothusen

            Thanks @nickzaharias:disqus

          • LadyScot

            His deepest feelings are his right to have and to speak. Just like yours. Or do you think your employer should have the right to fire you over the remarks you just made?

            Sterling does not have to like blacks to pay them fairly and adhere to the contracts he signed, which he has done so for nearly 3 decades. And all those players who were so offended did not mind taking those millions for decades knowing his feelings. He never hid it.

            As for not renting to blacks or Hispanics, if those races are the ones who damaged his properties then I can see why he would not want to rent to them. It is no different than not wanting to rent to whites if whites damage your property, or not renting to people with dogs or cats.

          • George Grothusen

            Sure, under the constitution of the United States he can feel and say whatever he wants. However, the government isn’t punishing him, the NBA is. I don’t know the NBA bi-laws but just as any other franchise there are rules as to what you can and can’t do. This whole situation is bad for the NBA as a whole and I’m sure the NBA will do whatever is within their power to remedy it. This isn’t about his rights as an American citizen, it’s about his rights as an NBA owner.

            Your 3rd argument is plain ignorant. Have a nice day.

          • http://www.spreaker.com/user/bud1 William A. Ellis

            as a representative of the team, league etc..he forfeited that right when bought the team..this is what’s wrong with the country today..Rich people are able to use resources that God provides and are supposed to be the most efficient use for society…not the other way around..greed etc has destroyed economies and nations..and it’s happening here now..the ones who derive the most benefit, pay the least and have abandoned the government of the country that gave them so much..spoiled brats

          • You want facts

            really maybe you could quote from the recording just what you speak of . could you point out his slavery mentality?could you please quote from the recording about his deepest thoughts of black people. So please just post the quotes you speak of.

          • George Grothusen

            OK… The slave mentality I was talking about is this.

            V: Do you know that you have a whole team that’s black, that plays for you?

            DS: You just, do I know? I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them?Do I know that I have—Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?

            He says that he ‘gives’ them food, clothes, cars, houses. He feels like he’s doing them a favor by paying them their salaries.

            On the Anderson Cooper interview he says:

            COOPER: When you saw them take off their — wear their warmup jerseys reversed, so that the name Clippers wasn’t on in that first game, what did you think?

            STERLING: I really didn’t pay attention to that. They are Clippers. And they are mine, and I’m theirs. That’s how I feel.

            In writing it doesn’t seem as bad as in the interview. He says ‘they are mine’ and there is a long awkward pause where you can see he realized what he said and follows up ‘and I’m theirs’.

            You might not think that’s a slave or plantation mentality, and that’s fine. I think it is.

            As far as his deep feelings about black people. If you listened to the interview it’s obvious so I won’t bother looking up the quotes.

          • Jimmy H

            NBA is only doing this for publicity and to appease the twit er tweet electronic postings. they wouldn’t care if like prior statements it wasn’t public.As said if a joke is on from any other race it’s not racist it reverse racism or doesn’t exist. Like Sharpton it’s about money and power race is only convenient to use as a means.

          • Gill Grant

            Look at the man’s history. I am sure that is not all they took into consideration.

          • You want facts

            yeah look at his history that they some how didnt look at when allowed him to be an owner. All about money nothing to do with ending racism. just like the president of the united states. he dont want to end racism he wants to stoke racism to gain voting power. Under obama the unemployment rate has trippled for the african americans and the pay has dropped by 4000 a year. He passed obamacare without any republicans so he could have fixed this discrepensy but then he wouldnt have the arguement that there in equality toward people of color.so dont blame the republicans who by the way freed the slave even with all the democrats voting to keep slaves , slaves. Or war on women when obama white house pays women 20% less then men working for the white house. When are women and people of color gonna realize the democrats are jsut using them just like the masters did during slavery. You here all kinds of lip service to get your vote but absolutely no action form the left. During bush’s term more people of color bought houses then any other time int he history of america. but somehow it bush who hates blacks.. kareem is a great man who isnt afraid to call it like it is. So much respect for that man. He will be ostrizized for his comments and he dont care

          • Arlene

            Tony YOU ARE A RACIST. WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR KKK OUTFIT????

          • Tony Hamrick

            Interesting how you make judgments on people you don’t know. I’m a racist because I agree with Kareem. I’m for equal and fair treatment for all people no matter their race.

          • Freda Jess

            Where is your black panther? On your couch?

          • http://www.spreaker.com/user/bud1 William A. Ellis

            there we go with if..if the frog had a glass ass he’d break it every time he jumps..let’s go with did

          • Tony Hamrick

            Sterling’s mistress is half black, he hired a black head coach and 90% of his players are black. He’s received 2 NAACP awards, so using your logic, he’s not racist, right.

          • Gill Grant

            A man gets married, has children, but yet he sleeps with other men. He still straight right? That’s your logic.

          • Jimmy T

            Gill, he said “your” logic, so your statement that it’s “his” logic would not be correct. Though he did reply to himself with that comment so there is that confusion. I have to assume he is referring to someone else, though I’m not sure who. And while everyone seems to be jumping on him as a racist, I don’t think at any point has he said Sterling was okay in what he said. I don’t think any reasonable person has ever come out and said that???

          • Arlene

            Saying inappropriate things is very different from being an outright racist. Look in the dictionary and if you are smart enough to find both of these words, then please try to understand the definitions.

          • E.F. Coleman

            He is NOT active in the NBA, who would listen to him?

          • jojac10

            Oh man i like barkley he said that.

          • Rob

            No he didn’t say that.

          • Ric
          • David Lee

            If he said that he’s an ass.

          • Rob

            He didnt say that. People lie so much but I agree if he was to say that I too would call for his job.

          • Rob

            Post a link proving Barkley said he hates white people and I will support your view. Otherwise it’s just hear say and I doubt your truth.

          • Ric
          • Daniel Peed

            That article also says that it was a joke, he did not mean it seriously.

          • TorchLuv

            If my memory serves me correctly, isnt Barkley’s wife caucasian?

          • Brian Carty

            I call bull crap on your post prove it or stfu why do you guys lie soooooo much

          • Soul Touch

            Everyone hates white people because they continue to cause the most destruction and disruption on the planet like they have done since historic times and it isn’t a personal-individual vendetta, it is a hate against white people as a whole. No matter the race everyone is human and equally has the potential to be evil but white people cause the most trouble on a global scale.

          • J L

            Which is why blacks and hispanics are the majority in prisons. Bu bu bu teh evil white people, they wont give me more money and they wont make me quit looking for a job, because i want to be a lazy bum. Get the F out of here.

          • Julius Carroll

            The reason why blacks and hispanics are the majority in prison is because the white fear us. A white man can not compare to an intelligent black or Hispanic male, therefore the white man look for any reason to put us in prison. And you defending Sterling shows us what party you belong to.

          • mike

            This is the most untrue statement i’ve heard in my life!!! People are in prison because of gangs, drugs, murder, rape etc. Etc. You my friend are a moron…. The only person I fear is god!!! I don’t defend sterling at all. He is a pig, however, you are just as bad. If a white man gets busted selling crack he too will be in prison!!!! Fact you idiot

          • Brandon

            he will go to prison with the shorter sentences and it’s far more likely to be able to afford a lawyer and get off. FACT

          • Brandon

            I’m not defending Julius I believe the reason that there are more black and Hispanics in prison is because they are drenched in poverty and the opportunities in their lives do not look the same as people that are not drenched in poverty

          • hearmetalking

            The real reason more blacks & hispanics are in prison is the lack of responsibility. And constant racist & hate being passed around from one to another. I and many more was raised in poverty. out of about 40 people I personally knew, 6 of these were prison bound, due to the fact they had a loose family life and was not taught respect or responsibility.

          • Brandon

            all we need is bigots like you to die off then we’ll be fine

          • hearmetalking

            Brandon came out swinging with his 2 watt brain. Brandon being the bigot he is, does just what is expected of him, Brandon despises the truth & loves lies.

          • Brandon

            I just choose not to engage in conversation with the ignorant. I am half black and white so it is humorous to read your rhetoric. I know the truth. You are a part of the problem I am proud to be apart of the solution. Good day sir

          • jay

            I know that in south Louisiana, being white will definitely get you a slap on the hand for the same crime a black would get 5 years for. Thats a fact! Racism is alive and well, but it’s not just white folks, there’s hatred amongst every race. If you’re a good person and you give me respect then I’ll treat you the same, no matter the race. It’s sad that we’re still even having these conversations in 2014.

          • WendDye

            I agree poverty and crime go hand in hand. I also agree It’s the same in North Louisiana, I treat others as they treat me, no matter what the color of their skin is. I’ve seen black and white racist. I can’t stand either one of them, nor their poisonous attitudes.

          • Amanda Hardy

            It’s different all over. In some areas, white people are even discriminated against. Racism is something I can’t understand and I wish it never existed and I wish as a nation, we could all get past it. I agree with what you said: if someone is kind to me, I am kind to them and I don’t have a care for what color they are. It’s who someone is that matters.

          • Lolly

            I totally agree.

          • Que

            I, Like you only fear GOD, however, it isn’t fact. When a 16 year old young Caucasian (as many people are getting caught up in white and black) kills 4 people, claims he has Affluenza and gets off with probation. I my friend begin to see that the system is not meant for the minority (not just black) and the poor.

            This my friend is fact…

          • Jimmy

            That didn’t happen because he was white. it happened because his family was able to BUY the court… the only color seen in that case was GREEN.

          • Que

            This is why i specifically said… Minority AND Poor!! I am not looking at white nor black, I am looking at facts. I implore you to read what I wrote completely.

          • Jimmy

            The affluenza thing is despicable, but has nothing to do with race at all… if you told me about that case without mentioning caucasian, the first thing I would figure is that the kid has rich connected parents… statistically, he’ll be white.

          • Eeeeee

            Exactly, so its about socio-economic status and not race. And… by extension, the majority of people on that end of the financial spectrum are probably white (although I don’t have hard numbers in front of me).

            Personally, I think this whole thread has gotten off topic. Why is it okay for Soul Touch to say very obviously bigoted statements but not other people? It works both ways. You are judging an entire race and clumping them all together – the same thing minorities have been fighting against for hundreds of years. Its really mind boggling.

          • Ronnie Richard

            I’m white and poor. Get over your racial bullshit dude. It’s not about race.

          • Que

            Please do tell… what is it about?

          • shea

            Do tell how being poor inclines one to commit crimes. If Blacks were in jail for stealing food or diapers for their families that might be one thing, but how does being poor FORCE one to commit robbery, rape, assault, murder, deal drugs, do drugs, etc? And don’t give me in self rationalizing BS about how poor people steal or sell drugs for an income….

            How come poor white communities DO NOT have the crime rate that poor black communities do? I live in a rural area of North Georgia, my mothers family comes from a rural area of Oklahoma, people here and there are poor as church mice, yet these towns, and hundreds like them, have an almost “0” crime rate. Guess what else we don’t have here – Blacks and Hispanics.

          • YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW

            WOW.. SO I ASSUMING YOUR PERFECT PEOPLE. CONGRATULATIONS. WHAT YOU SAY AND FACTS ARE TO DIFFERENT THINGS. I’VE BEEN AROUND POOR WHITE COMMUNITIES SEEN THEM ON SPIKE TV. YES SPEED AS THOSE WHITE PEOPLE SELLING, STEALING, ROBBING, AND RAPING BUT WAIT PROBABLY NOT RAPING BECAUSE THOSE COMMUNITIES CONSIDERED IT NORMAL TO SLEEP WITH FAMILY MEMBERS.

          • shea

            No one said anything about being perfect – the point is that being poor has nothing to do with committing crimes, unless some poor boy is pointing a gun at your head an MAKING you do it. The “poor” excuse is just that; an excuse, a rationalization of behavior instead of taking personal responsibility for ones behavior. It’s always someone else fault with you people, isn’t it ???

          • Leaders By Example INC

            It is a fact that crime is higher in poor communities bc of the misappropriations of resources, lack of employment and blatant discrimination against the poor and impoverished… Do some basic research… Your ignorance is showing… I work with the homeless and in the poorest areas in our city… Poor ppl do do illegal things for income or to try to achieve the facade of the “”American Dream” Sterling is racist but not just against blacks he is racist against POOR PEOPLE. Wake up this race thing is a ploy, always been bc rich white ppl are racist against poor white ppl too… Don’t believe me just do your own research…

          • kevin

            Please don’t use the word facts in your arguments anymore. It does not mean what you think it means. So far you have provided no sources at all for your so-called “facts.” Also, the ridiculous misuse of the word racist shows your ignorance. A racist is somebody (like you) that believes one race is better or worse than another. Economic status has no relationship with racism.

          • E.d

            A racist (ist) is someone who is well knowledgeable of something. Someone who loves what he/she does or is. Ex.. Scientist, stylist, physicist, archealogist.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            The rich society believes that they are superior to the “other” ppl… hmmm sounds like the definition of racist you idiot.. I will not waste my time to post all the research that is easily available in those places called the library. It is a FACT that ignorance is contagious so you won’t hear anything else from me. unless you can provide your FACTS to prove me wrong… I’ll wait…

          • kevin

            Racism is based on RACE, not money. It’s literally a part of the word.

            Telling somebody else to do your research for you? Great way to (not) prove your point. To convince somebody of something you can’t simply say, “It’s true, look it up!”

            As an example: People that have user names like Leaders By Example INC have been known to eat paint! It’s a FACT! I won’t bother to post the research, since it’s available everywhere.

            If you have actually done any research then you should immediately know where to cite those sources. Are you just too lazy to? Or is it simply because you have actually done no research at all and have nothing to back up your “FACTS?”

            It is a logical fallacy to try to win a debate by using the argument that the other person has to prove your opinions wrong.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            LOL you are super bored aren’t you. Try that on someone who has time to sit and have an uneducated debate with you. I lead by example everyday of my life. What have you done my I ask to help make a difference in your community? Just wondering for my own personal information. I am not here to convince you of anything. Do your own research YES bc this is not the kind of forum to post a bunch of sources… How bout this one read The END of Poverty by Jeffery D Sachs then come back and tell me that rich ppl are not racist against the poor. I use racist as my word of choice bc of the pure distain they have and the superiority most hold against the lower class of ppl. Come up with a better word rather than ignorantly boast about a bunch of nothing.The term discriminate is not a strong enough word to describe some of the hate felt towards poor ppl

          • kevin

            Look up the definition of racism. Please. You can’t just take a word and try to give it a meaning that it does not have whenever you feel like it. That’s plain ignorance.

            Discriminate is the word you’re looking for, I’m glad you finally found it. If you would actually use it properly it would make your argument slightly more acceptable. And I think the word you’re looking for is disdain. I know that because I read a lot.

            What I claim to have done to help my community is irrelevant to the conversation. For many reasons, but I’ll give you a few.

            It has nothing to do with the subject of the debate. Deflection.

            There is no way to prove it. This is the internet, we can all say that we’re mind-reading astronauts that can leap tall buildings in a single bound. Impossible to prove, just like your claim of leading by example every day of your life. For all I know you’re a drug dealer yourself, trying to get sympathy.

            You’re simply trying to change the discussion from the fact that you cannot hold a logical, intelligent debate. You try to deflect the issue by arguing subjects that have no bearing. You try to insult the person, rather than attacking the argument. So far you have not done a single thing to prove your argument except quote a book by an economist talking about world governments on an economic level. It does look like an interesting read, though. I’ll have to pick up a copy sometime.

            For the record, I agree that there is a huge disparity between the wealthy and the poor. I agree that much of society is biased towards rich people and against poor people. But blaming all of that on drugs and racism is a fallacy. It’s much more broad of an issue than that.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            I asked what you did for your community bc you attacked the name I used in this forum and it was for my own personal information as I stated b4. I do like to know what kind of person I am speaking outside of your circular comments… Which you answered it by not answering the question so never mind. Like I said discrimination is not a strong enough word and Webster changes the dictionary and the definition of many words every year so yes I can use what I see fits the situation. Its just a matter of time, you never know ppl my actually realize that rich and poor has became a race of its own… Do you get they duality of the word RACE that I am using… I hope so if not its okay we are not all meant to be understood lol. And you insulted me first right out the gate with your very first comment but I’m insulting you? How one-sided you have become Kevin… Be nice to your new Disqus girlfriend! And I agree it is much MORE broad of an issue btwn the rich and the poor but we would be all night on that topic unless you want to make it a date and go for it. I’m off tomorrow, well technically today now. Yet I did give you a good book to read tho, He was my professor at Indiana University, pretty cool guy.

          • Chrissy

            He didn’t attack your name. He used your name in an example to prove you cannot simply win an argument by stating your opponent can look up the facts to see they are true.

          • S.B.

            “class·ism (klăs′ĭz′əm)
            n.
            Bias based on social or economic class.
            class′ist adj. & n.”

          • kevin

            Racism is based on RACE, not money. It’s literally a part of the word.

            Telling somebody else to do your research for you? Great way to (not) prove your point. To convince somebody of something you can’t simply say, “It’s true, look it up!”

            As an example: People that have user names like Leaders By Example INC have been known to eat paint! It’s a FACT! I won’t bother to post the research, since it’s available everywhere.

            If you have actually done any research then you should immediately know where to cite those sources. Are you just too lazy to? Or is it simply because you have actually done no research at all and have nothing to back up your “FACTS?”

            It is a logical fallacy to try to win a debate by using the argument that the other person has to prove your opinions wrong.

          • Proud2bfromtheUSA

            Perhaps it is because the leading cause of poverty is single mothers. That is why more crime happens there, there are no fathers who lead the homes in those communities. Studies show that the biggest deterrent to crime and poverty is having a father in the home.

          • Amanda Hardy

            Please don’t bring sexism into this. As a child, I would have been far better off without a father in my home. I love my father and I have forgiven him for the harm he did us, but a woman is just fine at teaching right and wrong, thank you very much. My mother taught me well.

          • caligrl

            That is beyond spurious. The Atlantic recently published an article that simplifies the correlation to better policing. Try again.

          • Amanda Hardy

            I have been low income my entire life and have no desire to commit crimes. It is an excuse. There’s always a way to survive and to also follow the rules. People who turn to a life of crime are weak. Adults take responsibility for their actions.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            I didn’t say all “low income” ppl commit crimes. Duh!!!! Ms. Obvious lol

          • Leaders By Example INC

            You people… WOW I now regret trying to rationalize with such a small minded person.. I see now YOU ARE APART OF THE ISSUE AS WELL..

          • Black Planet Representer

            Statistics show when there is poverty there is high crime rates.. being poor puts you at risk of peer pressure and mis guidance. U have to understand white poverty is not being able to afford cable. Minorty poverty is not being able to feed a child. Its proven people will do unusual things in unusual circumstances in the name of survival. Point being…black kids in white schools are way less likely to commit a crime than a white kid in a black school. Influence versus support systems. Not saying blacks arent responsible but( just as guilty as a shark eating a scuba diver or a lion eating a baby zebra.. victim of circumstances is how I like to put it

          • Sam Baird

            The thing is Black Planet is fairly right, the primary reason there are an obscene amount more blacks and hispanics in jail is because the primary areas in which crimes take place are slums, ghettos and other impoverished areas. Due to segregation in the past these poor areas of cities are dominantly black and hispanic and are the focus points for cops to arrest people. This being said there is still a huge racist inequality in most states where if a black and white person commit the same crime, the black person usually gets a worse sentence, when it comes to murders, they get capital punishment more then twice as often.

          • Black Planet Representer

            Shea you would have to be a lion to know what its like in the jungle…tv is not even close. No one is to blame in this day in age for things being the way they are. But know this… we r being divided. Just like they build yall to turn a cold shoulder they build us to shoulder the cold. Im not mad at you for your train of thoughts but understand your built to feel that way as we are but the truth iz…there are traps in african american societies but blacks should be smarter about them. Being fair to your arguement… because times have changed t where opportunity do exist but what hasnt changed is the hole that was dug from the get go…which you are in denial about or are you?

          • Jason P. Levy

            Right because crushing poverty is completely a matter of choice. People struggling to survive on minimum wage are only doing so because they haven’t “decided” to become rich.

          • shea

            Actually most poverty is a choice, regardless of color. A choice to not do those things that those who are successful but not born into affluence do, lest how do you explain those with humble beginnings rising above it, black or white.

            The fact is, whether you find it palatable or not, if a person wishes to confront that individual who is MOST responsible for where one is or is not in life, such a person only has to hunt up the nearest mirror.

            No one, absolutely no one is responsible for where you are or are not except YOU.

          • Jason P. Levy

            At what point did I mention skin color in my previous post?

            Anyway, take a 7 year old kid with an absent father and a mother who is addicted to drugs. Tell me, what choices could that kid have made that would have kept him or her out of poverty?

            I’m not denying that personal choices can play a big role about whether or not you’re poor, nor am I saying that one can’t overcome poverty through willpower and drive, but pulling yourself out of poverty often involves a whole bunch of things coming together than have nothing to do with individual willpower.

            You need to have some sort of skill. Not just that, it needs to be a skill which society places a premium on in the particular time and place where you live. You could be the most talented, efficient, hardworking cashier in the history of the world, but there is little chance you’ll get out of poverty doing that job. The market just doesn’t place a premium on that kind of skill. Sure, you can get training in a new skill set which may help you to improve your economic standing, but that has opportunity costs associated with it. If said cashier has to work 12 hours a day at near minimum wage to keep the lights on, he’s not going to have the time or energy to go back to school for his engineering degree.

            In America ANYONE can become a success, but that doesn’t mean that EVERYONE can become a success.

          • Kendra Willett

            To Shea. Did you really just say poverty is a choice? You are saying some very ignorant comments. You sound like you have never been impoverished before. Before one makes ignorant comments like “poverty is a choice” maybe one should do some research, talk to some folks in poverty and so on. It is pretty easy for someone who is privileged to say something like that. I would like to know where you base your facts on this statement “most poverty is a choice.” You are a privileged white lady who obviously knows not what it is like to be hungry or to want for something. Until you can base your ignorant statement with some facts or have been in poverty you need to STHU.

          • Jimmy T

            Shea, I am stunned by so much that you have said. You have the most irresponsible and repugnant opinions I have seen in a while and you seem to think you are okay. You have stated unequivocally that white people are better than black and Hispanic people. You have stated that poverty or a lack of affluence is a choice. Do you victim blame women who are raped???

          • Kendra Willett

            @Jimmy T….I’m sure she does blame the women who got raped because she wore a short skirt or some bs like that. It is pretty easy for some one who is privileged to make ignorant comments like Shea. It just makes me sad for her children.

          • caligrl

            You people? May I suggest you just quit before you make a bigger fool of yourself. You obviously have little respect for others aside from socioeconomics.

          • shea

            Yep, “you people”. English much? When you are addressing a segment of your audience and not the whole audience, the phrase ” you people” is used to delineate to whom the comment was directed. Suck it up crybaby.

          • Kendra Willett

            Are you really this retarded Shea? Again I pity your children.

          • shea

            And you are absolutely correct, I have no respect for people who blame others instead of taking personal responsibility.

          • shea

            On Spike TV – wow, then it must be true.

          • Chris McCoy

            Another racist stero-typical comment…see we both play these same games, so why is it bad when we do it?

          • http://www.abloggslife.com Delis

            I’m a black, I lived in Nigeria and a bit in the UK, I can honestly tell you that being poor has nothing to do with committing crimes, in my country, The leaders commit various crimes (relating to theft)…the poor store clerk would steal your change when you are not looking
            I have seen poor people in the UK (mostly whites)…the white poor people don’t steal from you…they simply don’t…
            on the contrary, the middle eastern cab driver would try his best to cheat you out of your money…the UK whites may be different from the US whites…but I’m sorry to say this…but she is very right..from my observations so far…and you probably honestly know this

          • 1catfish

            So your education is spike TV, You mostly likely enhance your education by ng BSNBC and the VIEW.

          • jack black

            for money?

          • shea

            So the need for money causes one to cast aside all veneers of being civilized, makes ones self control fly out the door, eradicates your knowledge of right and wrong, and FORCES you, against your will, to commit crimes. Is that it Black? How come there are poor people who do NOT commit crimes, wonder how they manage that.

          • Dustin Detty

            Most crimes are committed do to drugs. But whites are on drugs as well. Just there are more drugs in Black and Hispanic areas so they get hooked more. You will do whatever you can to get your drugs. If your not on the drugs then they sell them to make more money and easier money than any other job. In a city close to me there are so many drugs and addicts most are white but it is almost at the top of the list for crime in the state of Ohio and it is not even a big city it is due to the drugs.

          • Chris McCoy

            Blacks force each other to do drugs, hence gangs, you live in a gang hood and your not banging, dont walk the streets. Its all about power and money, more people they get hooked more the gang gets. Whites on the other hand different story. Yea there are lots on drugs, but you have a choice in our culture, most young black youths feel they dont have a choice, thats the difference

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Are you black? Did you grow up in the hood bc YOU ARE SOOO FAR FROM THE TRUTH!!. Blacks join gangs to belong.. They lost their sense of family do to other issues that are far too numerous to list. Is it right no. but understand their stand point b4 you lie thru your teeth about something you clearly misunderstand. DO SOME BASIC RESEARCH PEOPLE! GO WORK WITH THE VERY PEOPLE YOU STEREOTYPE IN THESE MESSED UP CATEGORIES! THERE ARE MORE BLACK AND HISPANIC DRUG DEALER BC THERE ARE MORE WHITES ON DRUGS! SUPPLY AND DEMAND! It is proven and written in scholar journals easily accessible on this lovely thing we call internet. I worked in a court appointed drug rehab center… And there were more black and hispanics locked up for dealing but WAYYY more whites in the actual rehab program. Sheesh stop being so close minded and actually read or go get your hands dirty by experiencing the woos the very people you are lying about

          • kevin

            You’re assuming causality where none might exist. Are there more white people in rehab because there are more white people doing drugs? Or is it because more white people have the willpower to get off the drugs? Or is it because more white families try to get help for their loved ones? Or is it because ‘minorities’ don’t feel they can get help? Do an actual research study with controls and a large sample size and you’ll have something besides empty words to make your case. Your personal experience in one geographic area with a miniscule sample size and no controls is not evidence, especially since you try to twist what you claim to have observed to try to fit your narrow viewpoint.

            It is not our responsibility to look for evidence to disprove your opinion. It is your responsibility to prove your case with facts backed up by evidence.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            I do not have to do a study on a study that already exist. I was an intern and all of your questions can be answered by a simple trip to the library or trip to visit your local rehab. However, Yes to all of your questions. It is yes across the board for all races in rehab yet I was replying to the above comment which falsely accused more blacks and hispanics on drugs when they are more likely to be the drug dealer. It is not my job to do the learning for you. You continuously ask for proof, stop being so lazy and do it yourself. I post what I have researched and found through my studies and I would have a long drawn out list of sources, most of which are in books. That what I like to do I sit in the library for hours upon hours with a small library of my own here at home. I am a fan of knowledge, you would be surprised at the things you find just by reading. I do not say this as a POW in your face but just to let you know how simple it is to gain knowledge… Like I said do your own research and prove me wrong that is the power of a good debate… until then go sit in the corner

          • kevin

            I have done my research. I have done just as much research as you, probably more. I have seen hundreds of studies that show that there are more blacks and Hispanics on drugs than white people. Go look them up. I’ll wait here while you do it.

            Again, if you are trying to prove something to me, it is your responsibility to show that proof. It’s not my responsibility to do it for you. Talk about being lazy….

            I’m not the one trying to convince you of something, I’m simply asking you to prove to me what you’re trying to convince me of. If you are too lazy to tell me what things you have already read, then why should I be bothered to believe you? You still have not given a single logical reason why I should be required to do your research for you.

            And please stop trying to use empirical evidence to prove a point. That’s not scientific. Your small sample area could be completely different than other areas, and probably is.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            I am not trying to convince you to believe anything. If you have done your research then you have the same responsibility to post your sources to prove me wrong… You see how this can go back and forth… Funny huh… We can def email each other on credible sources outside this forum if you like. I’m down. I will never deny knowledge. And empirical evidence is evidence indeed. If you have done some research then you know there are 2 types… Qualitative and Quantitative. Empirical research fits in to the Qualitative side of research. You may think or actually done more research than me, kudos to you Kevin the Main Man LOL. You do know know me outside of this forum nor do I know you. I can not assume how much research you have done nor can you Kevin. It would be asinine to sit here and go back in forth… Yet I do enjoy it in a sick kind of way LOL

          • kevin

            Empirical research is one thing, empirical anecdotes are another. Nothing in your statements leads me to believe that your experiences were conducted under any scientific method. That makes them anecdotes, which are not evidence.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            See I have to correct you there. I was apart of the research team. In education since they receive certain grants, in which they must conduct research in alot of the programs they do. I was an intern with a professor who conducts research on Social Justice and the World Religions. We had to do quarterly evaluations of the participants involved so it is not all anecdotes. I know that can be bias. I did honestly speak from some of the findings we found. Pretty awesome people with great potential. They were very intelligent.

          • kevin

            Oh, and the person above you that “falsely accused more blacks and hispanics on drugs” (a statement that makes no grammatical sense, by the way) provided just as much evidence to support that fact as you did. Which is to say none.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Yet Kevin you are yet to provide a source to prove me wrong… See how this could keep going in circles? Even tho I enjoy seeing that little bubble pop up on my desktop letting me know you have yet again responded back LOL I’m digging this bond we are creating. Tell me more…

          • kevin

            Ah, now you’re just trolling instead of actually trying to have an intelligent debate. I salute you, I have been thoroughly trolled.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Awwww now you are softening up… This is actually my first time ever doing this forum thing and I must say you have made my first time very intriguing! You popped my forum cherry! Hahaha Yeah I find humor in all I do. Kind of hard to take any one serious over the internet. I’m still one of those talk face to face type people… So I tend to not allow myself to get so serious

          • kevin

            You might want to look up some debate fallacies. Here are a few examples:

            Argument from ignorance (appeal to ignorance, argumentum ad ignorantiam) – assuming that a claim is true because it has not been or cannot be proven false, or vice versa

            Argumentum ad hominem – the evasion of the actual topic by directing the attack at your opponent.

            (shifting the) Burden of proof (onus probandi) – I need not prove my claim, you must prove it is false.

            Correlation proves causation (cum hoc ergo propter hoc) – a faulty assumption that correlation between two variables implies that one causes the other

            Ecological fallacy – inferences about the nature of specific individuals are based solely upon aggregate statistics collected for the group to which those individuals belong.

            Fallacy of the single cause (causal oversimplification) – it is assumed that there is one, simple cause of an outcome when in reality it may have been caused by a number of only jointly sufficient causes.

            I’ll stop there, but there are dozens more.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Yeah I can google and copy and paste too Kevin dear… That was a mighty fast response to post all of that from memory eh… I’m full aware of fallacies. And full aware that you can find a information that will validate and debonk the very same subject matter as religious freaks do it all the time, the real debate is which is the valid one… It all depends on your reality my love

          • Leaders By Example INC

            I do not have to do a study on a study that already exist. I was an intern and all of your questions can be answered by a simple trip to the library or trip to visit your local rehab. However, Yes to all of your questions. It is yes across the board for all races in rehab yet I was replying to the above comment which falsely accused more blacks and hispanics on drugs when they are more likely to be the drug dealer. It is not my job to do the learning for you. You continuously ask for proof, stop being so lazy and do it yourself. I post what I have researched and found through my studies and I would have a long drawn out list of sources, most of which are in books. That what I like to do I sit in the library for hours upon hours with a small library of my own here at home. I am a fan of knowledge, you would be surprised at the things you find just by reading. I do not say this as a POW in your face but just to let you know how simple it is to gain knowledge… Like I said do your own research and prove me wrong that is the power of a good debate… until then go sit in the corner

          • Kendra Willett

            Maybe they had a support system that others didn’t have. You don’t know any true facts. All you are spouting is your own ignorant opinions that are based only on your feelings on what is right and wrong. It is pretty easy to make these comments when you are in the position and class you are in.

          • Kendra Willett

            Shea you disgust me.

          • shea

            What position and class is that?

            Choosing to commit crimes is a CHOICE, Kendra, no one is MADE to do so. I cannot believe that a grown adult is defending others committing crimes.

          • Kendra Willett

            I will defend others committing crimes because I unlike you choose not to judge someone before I know all the facts. You are right choosing to commit a crime is a CHOICE….wow you are a smart lady. I never said they had no choice. Everything is a choice.

          • Chris McCoy

            No excuse to be a dirty bastard

          • marla

            WOW! Your first paragraph makes you seem somewhat intelligent, BUT your second one actually made you seem quite stupid. Perhaps “Us hispanics” don’t want to live with “poor white racist pigs” like you as our neighbor!
            Criminals come in ALL shapes, sizes, religions, colors, the poor AND Yes, the rich!
            Get educated before you post. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out!!!

          • Amanda Hardy

            I understand why her comment hurt you and I don’t blame you for being upset, but using terms like “poor white racist pigs” is pretty rude. Not all white people are pigs and racists. Would you take offense to it if someone was going off about “poor Hispanic racist pigs”? It’s pretty rude, right? Just call it what it is: one person being racist. Racism sucks from all angles.

          • Jason P. Levy

            You answered your own question and you don’t even know it. People turn to crime to support themselves when they can’t find other sources of income.

            Are you seriously trying to compare something like inner city Chicago to the small towns your family is from? That’s not the same ballpark. Its not even the same sport. I’ve got very close family friends who are from/still live in rural West Virginia. In those small towns everybody knows each other so its a lot harder to actually get away with committing armed robberies and whatnot. You don’t get that phenomenon in urban areas because its much easier to just blend into the crowd.

          • shea

            Thank you for proving my point – people CHOOSE to engage in crime, it has nothing to do with being poor, lest ALL poor people would commit crimes. So if there is a high visibility of self in a small community, a poor person CAN summon the self discipline to not commit a crime, and if they think they can get away with it they are more likely to commit a crime. This has NOTHING to do with being poor, but EVERYTHING to do with home life, being raised with respect, for self, others, and the law, being raised correctly to know that no one is responsible for YOU except YOU, that it is wrong to expect others to take up the slack for you or provide for you, and most especially being raised with the correct paradigm that no one is responsible for where you are or are not in life EXCEPT you. As long as a person has it in their mind that someone else is to blame, they will NEVER be anything more than they are. THIS is a psychological fact of human behavior, whether you like it or not, or agree with it or not. The very very smart people at the APA know of which they speak, and I am sure they just forgot to call you and ask your opinion.

          • Jason P. Levy

            And what factors do you think go into whether or not a kid is instilled with healthy respect for themselves, authority, and the law? Presence of both parents? How good the schools in an area? Boy, it sure sounds a lot like poverty influences the hell out of those factors. If adults in the household are either absent, or working a large proportion of the time, or the schools in a city are bad because there’s no property tax base, its more likely that the kids are going to turn out rotten. Does this happen to every poor person? NO. No one ever said that, and to suggest otherwise is to just be deliberately obtuse.

            Sure personal responsibility is a huge part of it- hell, I’d even go so far as to say its the biggest part of it. But if you want to think about someone’s approach to personal responsibility where they came from is a great place to start.

          • Kendra Willett

            Oh my god and the Ultimate Ignorant Award goes to…drum roll please………Shea. So you are telling me that if you had a family, and you are poor and without a job, that you wouldn’t do WHATEVER is necessary to feed your children? You are telling me that if your children were starving and you could feed them but it meant stealing some food that you would let them starve? It is pretty easy to judge and say the things you are saying when you have never been in any situation like that before.

          • shea

            Ah child, you are, again, making assumptions (“when you have never been in any situation like that before” – WTF do you know about what I have and haven not been through?). But I have been poor, no money at all, and had a family, and no, I did not go out and commit crimes. It’s this pesky thing ( to libtards ) called SELF DISCIPLINE. Wonder how I manage that…….

          • caligrl

            The fallacy in your logic is astounding. Do you know what also white poor people are known for especially in red states like Georgia? #welfarerecipients Try again.

          • Nick

            It’s about u placing blame for ur problems on other people. get over it

          • Walt Sowers

            you keep contradicting yourself. Go back and read your own statements.

          • Montely Wilson

            Systemically in America it is about race, and will remain to be about race because, by and large, people like you bury your heads in the proverbial sand and ignore the truth. When crime statistics are compared from white and black communities, for the same crimes white are not jailed at the same rate a black or hispanic ethnicities. Since it is not about race, please explain that phenomenon. Please refrain from the typical stereotypes. I doubt you will because that’s all you have, thus proving race does matter.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Exactly Ronnie! Man I was getting afraid that this comment section was full of bigoted one-sided monsters who refuse to face the actual facts. Especially the ones done by their very one Department of Justice.. The statistics are overwhelming… And the sad part is ppl still refuse to believe it

          • kevin

            It’s about race because people like you constantly make it about race. Constantly blaming everything on white people and making excuses for ‘minorities’ only serves to fuel racism and hatred. Oh, and if you want to keep mentioning statistics, please quote your sources.

          • E.d

            People of dark color are the majority idiots! Do your research.

          • kevin

            Hence the reason for the quotes on the word ‘minorities.’ However, the word is commonly used to indicate non-white people, so that is how I used it.

          • 1catfish

            Prove your claim racist.

          • 1catfish

            Prove you claim racist.

          • Jimmy T

            Factually it’s about the cycle of poverty. New immigrants are frequently caught in it because they emmigrate from a poverty situation. Minorities are often caught in it because their group began in it. Systemic racism prior to the 60’s cultural revolution and the slow crawl out of it has exacerbated it. But the chief culprit is the cycle of poverty.

          • oneofthosewomen

            No this is about money and implied power that was just stripped away from Donald

          • ex-X5

            Good one Ronnie. I grew up White and poor as a minority in a black and Hispanic neighbourhood. I survived without blaming everyone for my problems and strived to and became a better person. The way I grew up you’d think I’d be a racist considering the racial abuse my family endured but the opposite happened. What pisses me off now is that black racist are painting all whites with the same brush when it’s only a small percentage that are racists. Another thing, racist and prejudiced are two different terms. Prejudice is generalizing about what a race is or does, while racism is about dragging people behind pickup trucks, denying them jobs, burning crosses on their front yard and burning down churches. How quickly are we to use the more horrible term nowadays for pure shock and outrage value.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            Did your write it “completely” or do you want us to completely read it? Your ignorance is showing. I only point this out because you a d bag.

          • Que

            Yes, I did write it completely… if there is something I missed while paraphrasing, please show me my ignorance.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            It’s your grammar. It belies your public school education, just as your anti-white rhetoric belies your self-pity.

          • Lolly

            That was COMPLETELY unnecessary, Mr. GoodbyeUSA. Who is a d-bag? I think there might be plenty of people who would fix that label to you. Compare the respectful way that Que is communicating with the disrespectful way which YOU are communicating. You are taking the low road and he is taking the high road. People of intelligence and education will disregard what you say because your mentally ugly manner takes away from any credibility you may possibly have.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            I was just pulling a left wing grammar police. Not unlike you are pulling the left wing internet etiquitte police. But your right, I am better off sticking to pointing out how ridiculous his left wing anti-American rantings are.

          • Hadey

            You are right Que, very intelligent and accurate.

          • Walt Sowers

            but you said caucasian. Does that not mean white?

          • humanfan

            Que.. I might remind you that OJ is Black and his wealth got him off from Murder.. So it is not minority, it is weath.

          • Arlene

            AND IF HE WAS BLACK WITH MONEY HIS ASS WOULD BE IN JAIL YOU CLUELESS ASS HOLE

          • Jimmy

            Classy Arlene. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

          • hearmetalking

            Que is looking at the world with his 2 watt brain. mouth open and stupid stuff comes out

          • Que

            If this is the case, I ask… teach me. Seeing as I know nothing apparently and you know. How are the words I speak “2 watt”??

          • PerpetualDisappointment

            He said you have a 2-watt brain not 2-watt words. The lack of reading skills does not help your cause, dude.

          • Que

            Ok… so where and how is my brain “2-watt”? The problem in Society as a whole, we are quick to point fingers with no solution. This is all I ask…. you see a problem in the way I view things, be it fact or not, however, no real solution or explanation in the way you see me.

          • PerpetualDisappointment

            Blech.. Once again not reading things thoroughly-

            I was pointing out that someone ELSE said that you had a “2-watt brain” and not ‘that you speak “2-watt words”‘ as you had mistakenly stated.

            I am not pointing fingers. I do not care about your personal beliefs. However, I do see you as someone who only reads what they want to see and therefore doesn’t get the whole picture, which makes it impossible to create an intelligent response. My solution would be to take your time and read things thoroughly. Otherwise, you are essentially having a conversation with no one in particular.

          • Que

            I read everything thoroughly… However,can we not agree that our words are the direct link to our brain? I will never know what you think or how your brain works unless dialogue begins. Therefore, a direct link between the two can be constructed yes?

            And my apologies for accusing you of pointing fingers, it was merely meant as a general statement.

          • Richard

            Que here is how you fix it. A long time ago I found out that the world did not see me as I thought it should. Then I started to worry about things that matter. Family. Thats all that matters. If you have family and they have you there is nothing in the world that can matter. If you want to believe that the ONLY reason people don’t respect you is because your a women or fat or short or black then my friend you have lost already.

            When family is not where your heart is its easy to think what you do to others dose’nt matter. When a man has no respect for women or the working man. If he can call girls Hoe’s and Bitches if he can put a baby into a women and then just walk away Que then you are not a man. You want a solution? That ain’t out there to many assholes left in the world. You want a reason. Thats what I gave you. 75% of Black Kids grow up in single parent homes. How you going to get a leg up if you are already getting kick to the curb by your own parents.

            Que don’t take this like I am saying you are like this. I don’t know you. But your words seem to point out everything but what the real problem is, respect and pride.

          • Lolly

            ever heard of paraphrasing?

          • Hadey

            He is right. You my friend have nothing good to add but insulting people. How about you make an argument against what he is saying. Do you have any proof of what you are saying?

          • hearmetalking

            The facts of what I said are abundant, but you will never see them through your racist eyes. all you can do is stick that greedy lazy hand out for more govt. freebies

          • Hadey

            My friend, I am finishing up at a university, work for everything I own and am applying for law school soon. Do not deflect on me how you truly feel about yourself and another thing, you are taking part in the defamation of character, which in the court of law is illegal. I have proof right here, so I would insest you stop your libel and your errant rhetoric.

          • Hadey

            *insist

          • Richard

            I liken insests…….ugh huh

          • goldie2012

            hadey hope you don’t expect to get into law school based on your writing or grammatical abilities

          • Hadey

            Goldie, you know so much about the LSATS. Don’t you? There is no grammar or writing on the LSATS, just stop talking. You do not know anything about what it takes to go to law school, so just STOP.

          • goldie2012

            I do know that the second s in LSATs is not capitalized. So I guess I know more than you. And yes I know quite a lot about what it takes to get into law school

          • goldie2012

            oh wait I also know hadey is a dumbass

          • Hadey

            And what are you even commenting about the insest part, if you were able to read correctly, I posted a an asterisk with the correct word next to it, insist.

          • Michael

            Shut up. I hate people who think because they are in law school that makes them a credible lawyer. You would need a public reputation that could suffer harm for you to claim libel. Who are we libeling… a nobody.

          • Hadey

            What credentials do you have to even speak? Are you trying to be a troll? Yes. Am I more intelligent and speak more eloquently than you? Yes. So you need to stop talking and mak an argument against what I am saying not use logical leaps to mask your ignorance and inabiliy to create a coherent argument.

          • Hadey

            And how do you know I’m a nobody, just because you have this pre-concieved notion in your little pea of a brain.

          • Michael

            I don’t need to state my credentials here. This is not a credible forum and I have no insecurities that I need to cure by validating myself here. If you have something to say, then say it. Nobody CARES what freaking university or law school you are going to. My God, the most stupid people exist on these blogs. Its interesting and comical to see and observe the inane arguments put forth. Please save yourself and finish your studies first. Then you might have something to say.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            LOL why do ppl feel the need to let others know they are university zombies… Your intelligence should speak for itself… A bird does not tell you it can fly, it shows you it can fly. In other words Hadey just shut up while your ahead LOL

          • Michael

            For real, you know.

          • Hadey

            You know what I have to say, that you are the most brute and unintelligent person I have the misfortune of communicating with. You have no argument against me or any one else. You try to attack me with arguments that have no valid premises and you are not even discussing the article at hand. What is your point in this whole discussion to attack me? Real mature. If you want to talk about stupid, just look in the mirror, because my friend you have issues. I’m done talking to such a troll.

          • Michael

            LOL. This is just what I mean; you are actually upset. And yes, I am a troll. What is even more ridiculous is that you would respond to a troll. It does demonstrate your intelligence or lack thereof. I don’t need to look in the mirror, or check myself, or anything of the sort. I know why I am here. I do this for pure enjoyment. If any of what you are saying is true; you would do something about it and not just talk about it on a forum designed for fools. You all think by pontificating and arguing your points that you somehow make a difference. What you do here makes no difference in the world at all. If you are worth anything; go do something meaningful in the world like some of the rest of us do. Take Care; I’ve had my laugh for the day.

          • Jimmy T

            What argument are you making? That you are a pompous ass trying to prove you are more intelligent than you are? I certainly hope you are lying about law school. Your poor grammar is a certain sign of a poor education. You have made no relevant points to the discussion whatsoever. You are clearly insecure about your education as you bring up your superiority in it constantly.

          • kevin

            If you truly are going to law school soon then I suggest you pay better attention in school. Inflammatory opinions are not libel. It has to be stated as fact, intended to be taken as fact, and done maliciously. It is virtually impossible to win a libel case based on posts on an Internet message board.

            Oh, and a lawyer should also know how to spell. The word you were looking for is insist.

          • Hadey

            Actually, if you read closely, I posted an asterisk after that comment and used the word insist to clarify my mistake. I have a shitty keyboard. So, you need to read everything before you attack me. Furthermore, here is the definition of libel,” the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation.” And if you do not think him calling me a racist is malicious than obviously you do not know what malicious means. And an internet post is perfect, the evidence is clear and you can trace it back to the person’s network. I’m done talking to people who just want to attack me instead of commenting on the article. Good day!

          • kevin

            Actually, due to the anonymity of the internet, an internet post is terrible. Look up some Appellate and Supreme Court decisions on this issue. I have read many. And you left out a few things in your definition of libel.

            To recover in a libel or slander suit, the plaintiff must show evidence of four elements: that the defendant conveyed a defamatory message; that the material was published, meaning that it was conveyed to someone other than the plaintiff; that the plaintiff could be identified as the person referred to in the defamatory material; and that the plaintiff suffered some injury to his or her reputation as a result of the communication.

            One key element is missing. That the plaintiff could be identified as the person referred to. It’s hard to harm the reputation of an anonymous person that goes by Guest on the internet. Even if the person called you a racist and somehow identified you specifically so that you could be identified, this would still fall under the limited-purpose public figure exception.

            “The [Supreme] Court held that a person who “voluntarily injects himself or is drawn into a particular public controversy” becomes a public figure “for a limited range of issues.””

            Therefore you would have to show that the person knew that their statement was false. Opinions are very hard to prove as being objectively false. Keep going to school, you might get it eventually instead of threatening baseless legal action. You could even be charged with barratry if you tried, depending on which state you’re in.

          • Daniel Pour

            i love government freebies =)

          • hearmetalking

            Daniel all greedy gimmes love to live off of hard working taxpayers. Does parasite sound familiar to you,because that is what you are.

          • MyOhMy

            It kills me when cognitive dissonance rears it’s head–which is ALL the time with ‘you people’. Ever considered the 250+ years of ‘free labor’ this country got and everybody benefited from b/c it allowed the US to lead the industrial revolution? If that is too obtuse for you to wrap your brain around–try this: forfeit your income and the rest of your families income for the rest of your life and work for no wages and then make this the case for the next 10+ generations in your family and THEN talk to us about ‘greedy gimees’..then we can talk about greedy, arrogant, insane, ungrateful gimees. And I just had another thought about your insane views: while black people were living thru jim crow and forced segregation 100+ years AFTER the supposed abolishment of overt slavery–we were still paying frickin’ taxes..not reduced taxes b/c we sure as hell were getting REDUCED and inferior services..but we still paid full taxes…all the while whites were receiving the full benefits of citizenship. So you still wanna talk that BS about ‘greedy gimees’? You betta save that for some brain dead, unaware of history folk. Um, apparently, those like yourself.

          • Pink Floyd

            So because something happened to 10+ generations… 10+ generations in the past, the white people 10 generations removed from their bigoted ancestors are still responsible? Sorry, lame excuse. I’m not responsible for 100+ years ago, I will not be held accountable for that, and I will think ignorantly of anyone who tries to make what is – when you break it down – the perpetuation of racism. Likewise, it hasn’t affected you, it isn’t affecting you, and I sure hope it never will affect anyone in the future. Stop banking on racial segregation of the past and affirmative action of the present, it just makes you a whiny loser.

            Scholarships available. White males need not apply.

          • YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW

            ITS ONLY BEEN ONE GENERATION SINCE MLK SPEECH. IT ONLY BEEN ONE GENERATION SINCE SEGREGATION. IF IT WAS 10 GENERATIONS YOU WOULD BE RIGHT..

          • Michael

            In case you don’t know your history… We just barely passed the civil rights act 50 years ago. This is very recent stuff. The folks that lived through all of that racial segregation, racism, discrimination, etc. during the 40s, 50s, 60s, etc. are still alive. This was not a long time ago. This is very very recent. To act as though this was some long long ago situation is ridiculous and actually demonstrates your ignorance. Thank you.

          • hearmetalking

            Michael Keep talking and showing your ignorance. The black people that wanted to have a better life and support their family, did so. Yes 50,60 & 70 years ago. what they did not do was whine and say poor poor pitiful me. and get drunk every night. they knew in order to have a life like whitey, they had to get up and go to work like whitey. Hell yes it was harder on blacks back then. But thats no excuse for todays blacks that will not try to even speak correctly or put in the hours to learn a trade.Ohhhh no its a gimme gimme plantation state of mind that democrats and Jesse jackson have instilled in them.When I lived in Atlanta back in the 60s & 70s, I never got one reply from black people to learn air Conditioning & heating trade while at the same time I was paying top pay while they would have been trained. I did get a lot of guys from the mountains that could barely read & write that applied and they all learned a good trade. President Johnson wanted blacks put on the government plantation so they would forever vote democrat.

          • Michael

            LOL. People love to speak on stuff they don’t know. Too funny. If you only knew who I was. You watch too much television. Do you actually know any black folks? This is just crazy talk.

          • hearmetalking

            Michael you sure talk about stuff, you know nothing about, Would like to hear something intelligent from you but me & you both know thats impossible for a liberal like your self to do this. I know a few blacks but they are successful, never hung around the victim mentality blacks or whites.I have crossed paths with both but we have nothing in common with each other.

          • Michael

            You don’t know anything about me. So, you could have a little respect. You assume my political affiliation, but I digress. This is the type of ignorance I mean.

          • hearmetalking

            Only a liberal would come out and show no respect for someone then ask for respect. Michael you are truly a piece of work.

          • Michael

            I am. I know this. I troll these forums because people like think you are so intelligent and this is your venue to spew your idiotic views and act like you are so knowledgeable. Get a life dude.

          • hearmetalking

            Like I said You are a piece of work, I knew you lived under a bridge, all trolls do. I have a great life, & I can spot you phonies a mile away. You have two choices, Stay stupid or turn off your TV and start looking around. Something good might happen to you, Hell you might not stay stupid.Sorry if I talked over your head.

          • Michael

            You are so gullible. LOL

          • hearmetalking

            Gullible very possible, but stupid like you, never. I do have a tendency to trust people, until I find out they are dumb or untrustworthy.LOL to you loser.

          • Michael

            This is actually fun. You are name calling now. Running out of words? Oh, and I’m winning in every way. So, you can call me a winner!

          • Michael

            This is actually fun. Now you are name calling. Running out of words? Oh, and I’m winning in every way, so you can call me a winner.

          • hearmetalking

            If whining is winning you’re a winner. by by whinney

          • Michael

            Are you enjoying this as much as I am? I am literally laughing out loud. Have a good night man. WINNING!

          • Michael

            I’ll add… The victim mentality is not a racial thing.

          • Pink Floyd

            No, I don’t live in America, where the backwash of spittoons breed the next generation of the intolerant south. I live in Canada, where people of all coloUrs have rightfully been free to live-and-let-live for 200 years. I’m sorry it took your shitty country still hasn’t learned to respect people as they are (*cough* gay rights *cough*). MLKs speech and the subsequent civil liberties act helped formalize the lack of racism, but 50 years is only one generation of dinosaurs, and 3-4 generations of new ideas. You’re welcome.

          • Michael

            Hey, Love it bro. I might not have said it like that, but I concur.

          • Pink Floyd

            It truly is wonderful when people of opposite views can come to a common compromise!

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Man Canada sounds like the place to be. Lately I have been hearing more and more great things about your country… Sad your neighboring country is still stuck on its old views… There are still numerous of horror stories about racism against all kinds of ppl esp the poor

          • kevin

            50, 60, and 70 years ago is a long time. Yes there are still people alive who lived in those times. However there are no people alive that lived in the “250+ years of ‘free labor.'” Please try for some consistency. Just because people are still alive that lived through the “history” you so proudly mention is no reason to vilify an entire race for things that they were not alive for. And it’s no reason for people that didn’t live through it to feel entitled to handouts either. Learn from the past, don’t try to use it as an excuse for current or future poor behavior.

          • Michael

            I have to admit that I did not read the entire thread that I was responding to. I had a knee-jerk reaction and decided to post. That being said; my point is that the attitudes with regard to race have not changed all that much. The rights afforded to blacks and others in this country are not due to a change in the hearts of people, but rather to legislation. if not for laws being passed, much of the freedoms we enjoy would not exist. People do not care a lick about your personal liberty; it has to be forced on them. And, yes, I am proud of my history and I would suspect you are as well. I still stand and say that is not a long time ago; if MLK were not assassinated; he would most probably still be alive. This is very recent history. If it is true that race relations have truly changed we would not still be having these types of conversations for they would be moot. The fact is that America has not and will not deal forthrightly with this issue and so we continue to dance around it and make accusations about who we think people are. Lastly, I would add that I certainly would not vilify an entire race; but I would vilify those that are clearly part of the problem. We should all wish to be held accountable for our actions and our beliefs.

          • Moderator

            “Likewise, it hasn’t affected you, it isn’t affecting you, and I sure hope it never will affect anyone in the future.” This general statement shows just how ignorant you are.

          • Luigi Fantetti

            I sho do hopes the gub mint still gives the cheese out after dis !

          • savethevolcanoes

            Yep.They will still be donating land for old racists to graze cows on too.Count on it,Jethro.

          • Daniel Pour

            i love government freebies =)

          • Montely Wilson

            Statistically, whites get far more government freebies than minorities. Guess you didn’t know that whites statistically receive more SNAP aid that blacks. Your lack of research and penchant for echoing the welfare queen mentality is revealing. However, you have no clue as to who the welfare queen real is. I digress. It is not intelligent to have discourse with practiced fools, because I could never out fool you!!

          • hearmetalking

            Montely repeat after me, I am one dumb sob.Where in the hell do you get your twisted stats to suit your purpose. Yes by number whites do receive more govt benefits than blacks. Put this in perspective. Blacks make up only 16% of the population and 84% of them are living off the govt. // Whites make up 66% of the population and 12% of them are living off the govt. You got to quit getting your information from CNN & MSNBC. dang get you some math in your background.

          • Tra Down

            Capital letters after the period and you can hide your ignorance a smite better.

          • hearmetalking

            Sorry if I’m talking over your head, but i can not get as low as you liberals can.Take them knee pads off and stand up, maybe you will have better reception.Tra Down the Clown

          • Tra Down

            The problem with your analysis of my comment, I am not a liberal, nor a conservative. As far as you talking over my head, you are not. What you are attempting to do, seems to be the use of a straw man fallacy, as opposed to fixing your errors.This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged emotional issues where a fiery, entertaining “battle” and the defeat of an “enemy” may be more valued than critical thinking or understanding both sides of the issue. Good day from me to you Bozo..

          • hearmetalking

            Tra you sound like a Babbling idiot.You are not a Liberal,You are not a Conservative. Are you an American or a fence straddler? You are either for Obama or America, You can not be both.

          • Tra Down

            Im am for what is to come, must I have a political side in order to have a vested interest? They are all the same, bad custodians of what has been entrusted to them? I study the issues, do you?

          • Tra Down

            @ Im ^^^ typo correction, “I Am”

          • Leaders By Example INC

            You sir are comparing the wrong numbers. When it comes to govt benefits its is not just all blacks and all whites.. its the poor blacks, poor hispanics and poor whites and the later out weigh all other minorities… All of the red states receive way more freebies than the blue states, which I could care less bc they are both on the same team… Team Rich People. Statistically there is no difference btwn poor whites, hispanics or blacks bc they all get discriminated against. We are all one race… or at least we will be with all the in-breeding as the older generation calls it. Soon race will not matter but money will always be the discriminating factor.

          • hearmetalking

            BS. poor poor poor people who will not try and better their self. You go and get you a job working for a poor person. I will stick to working for a rich man like millions of other working people do. You are right about the plantation people, they are of every color & race. Living off the tax payers. housing, food and spending money while driving SUVs // Discriminated against my ass. These people are helping bankrupt this Nation.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            You do know that the smallest portion of your taxes actually goes to provide benefits to the impoverished people. The government already has a large amount of money allotted in their budget called block grants.. Most of your taxes go to uphold their agenda not the agenda of the people… Open your old closed up mind its full of cob webs. We all have room and time to grow up even in our old age…

          • Cloey Jade

            Actually being one who was on SNAP for a while, they dont go off the color of your skin. They go off how much money your household brings in. A black family of 5 making 700.00 a month will get EXACTLY the same benefits as a white family of 5 making 700.00 per month.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Thanks Cloey… Its not about color but residual and take home income… Money is the only race that matters…

          • kevin

            Source?

          • Richard

            Please get your facts correct. I pulled the statistics straight from the government website. Whites make up 73% of the US Population and 38% welfare programs recipients. Blacks make up 13% if the US population and 39% welfare programs recipients.

            Now of course more white then blacks are on welfare…….because there are more of them.

          • Lolly

            Neither Hadley nor Que has said anything racist!! They are merely expressing their opinions (and giving some evidence, I might add) and also asking YOU to give evidence for YOUR opinion. Let’s pretend that you are (ahem) correct and that they are SOOOOOO racist that they will never allow themselves to see through their prejudices and assess and think logically about the truth. Maybe there are others on this board who will be able to put aside THEIR prejudices and step into the light of truth. Why dontcha give those folk a chance to re-assess and change their minds about this subject. As it is, I don’t disagree with Que awfully much, but I think it is less about color or minority status and more about poverty, but–hey–maybe you can convince me. Let’s see whatcha got? Bring on the evidence!

          • hearmetalking

            Lolly Pop I do not need an interpreter. When some people only know how to whine and play victim instead of taking responsibility and blame all their shortcomings on others. Its time some one spoke up and reminded them to cut out the crap. I know blacks that are doing great for their self, But then they didn’t waste their life looking for handouts & playing victim to everything. No one was more poor than me growing up, School was a Godsend for me, I enjoyed learning It paid big dividends later in life for me. People need to quit babying these lazies and making excuses for them. I see people everyday come into this country that have great difficulty communicating with others, but they find a way to achieve and grow, So did I, sorry I have no time for losers.

          • kevin

            There has actually been no evidence given at all by anybody here. Que mentioned a single case, with no context. That’s not evidence.

          • Tra Down

            I do not profess to know much of the views of others and who may be lazy, but as such, if others are so resourceful, why is it that white people indulged in the slave trade? Was it because they wanted to get out of working hard to build there nation?. Lazy and greedy?

          • kevin

            The people in Africa sold their own people into slavery. That’s right. Black people indulged in the slave trade. So did white people and Asian people.

          • http://www.abloggslife.com Delis

            Lazy is relative…some people are lazy to think…some people are lazy to work….I don’t think any race is lazy…

          • Amanda Hardy

            Funny because all my white ancestors worked themselves sick. Let’s not stereotype anyone as lazy. You’re being racist and if racism isn’t something you appreciate from others, it should probably not be something you show towards others.

          • Tra Down

            I am not racist and I hope that I did not offend you, or discredit the work of your ancestors, I was simply posing a question, as opposed to a statement.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            Anyone can cherry pick a single instance of injustice, like letting Willy Horton out of prison on weekend furlough despite his being a murderer who then took the release time to rape and murder again. Does this mean the system is tilted to favor black murderers?

          • fatfree

            Single instance of injustice? Are you freaking kidding me? You can’t possibly be that ignorant. LOL.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            How many instances did he cite? Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. And to say someone is ignorant because they cannot assume the assumptions you blindly make, well there is no helping you. Have another spoonful of the progressive bullshit you have been feeding yourself.

          • fatfree

            Well if it was only “anecdotal” how come my experiences can’t be validated? Their anecdotal uselessness is ok, but I’m not allowed to comment with truth. Oh, that’s right, only white ppl’s experiences are allowed to be validated. You obviously resent me b/c I’m using my voice (figuratively) instead of be a submissive black person who is unsure of themselves and allows racist white ppl dictate to me how I’m supposed to react and feel about issues that affect me personally. LOL. I guess as far as you’re concerned, I’m not supposed to have views. OK.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            I really don’t care what race you are. If you think I marginalize you because of your race, you just have a chip on your shoulder. Besides, we don’t really even disagree. People do stupid things and end up in prison. I am just saying that they lack better judgement because (in most cases) because they do not have strong families to guide them. A good family is the source of most of our privilege in this world, not our skin color, intelligence, or any other variable.

          • Que

            By no means am I saying it is tailor made for the black. Using your words, anyone can cherry pick a single instance on injustice. However, that being said… studies have shown that the minority groups tend to get arrested more often than caucasians. Some the fault of the perpetrator, some through bias minded police system.

            http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/

            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2826704/

            Now again… to be clear, I am just putting up the facts from research I have done in the past.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            “Some the fault of the perpetrator, some through bias minded police system.” I see you cite to NYCLU Terry stop statistics. 98% of all murderers identified in NYC were black/latino. Yes, 98%. I would say more than “some” is the fault of the perpetrator.

          • WendDye

            It’s not a color thing about the affluenza…that’s called CASH!!! Money talks!!!

          • Terry Enright

            Is OJ White?

          • Jon

            no it’s orange you goof! @terryenright:disqus

          • Terry Enright

            Well played Sir, well played.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            BEST RESPONSE EVER! HAHAHA!

          • Richard

            Que heres the facts, 75% of Black kids grow up in single parent homes 75%. Did the White man do that to you also? This is one of the largest contributors to poverty and crime in America.

          • Pink Floyd

            And that is the case no matter what race. The lack of a masculine figure in life to whip you into shape leads to violence and crime, period.

            And before the feminazis go up in arms, the same applies if one of your two moms fills the masculine roll while the other fills the feminine role. We are animals, and we still behave exactly as we did for the 1.5 million years+ we lived in caves. 2000 years of society and 100 years of modern society hasn’t changed that one iota.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Thanks Pink Floyd! Ppl are sooo stuck on color.. This color does this that color does that… HUMANS are the must dumbest animals in the kingdom… Even a dog will become a surrogate mother to any baby animal bc its natural to care for the young and helpless.. We on the other hand does nothing to help those in need for whatever reason… We too busy working hard to stay poor instead of building together. There is enough money, homes and food to feed and house everyone but that will never happen in this illusion of a democracy… The US will become slaves to the Chinese soon bc they actually put their family and children’s education first.. The US close them and build more prisons

          • Richard

            Yes Floyd I was not feeling comfortably numb. It is true about any race. 25% of all kids in America grow up in a single parent family. The number of children living in single-parent homes has nearly doubled since 1960, according to data from the 2010 Census. Today, one-third of American children – a total of “”15 million “”– are being raised without a father. Nearly “”five million”” more children live without a mother.

            The numbers are shocking. but out of those 20 million more than 15 million are black or Hispanic. Total American family melt down…

          • Nick

            Please don’t say caucasian as I do not say negro

          • Cloey Jade

            Youre going to base a once in history ruling on an entire population? If thats the case, i guess my well off white friend should be let out of prison now. He accidentily ran over someone in a crosswalk. He still has another 10 years behind bars. He was 17 when it happened. That was 7 years ago.

          • Equalrights

            And when any young Caucasian goes to apply for college good luck finding money for him even if he was a good student. Plenty around for the black or hispanic student with the same grades though. You can’t win them all. You either treat everyone equal ALL THE TIME, or stop complaining when it isn’t “equal” cause it all balances out.

          • MS47

            Bingo. Thank you for pointing that out.

          • Adam

            Really, so when O.J. got off I am so assume it was because he was black right? Or wait, did he not do it? Or when MJ got busted molesting kids I am to assume it wasn’t his money that got him off, but because he was black. Seeings how you only seem to see race as the cause and not the wealth of the family.

          • Amanda Hardy

            What about OJ? He murdered two people in cold blood and got off! Honestly, I think the justice system is flawed. It all depends on what the judge and jury thinks and what the laws of the state are in regards to certain crimes. Why does everything have to be about color?

          • Ire

            Stop using that stupid word to describe white people. The only Caucasians are people from the Caucasus region of Eurasia. Learn some geography.

          • DME

            true story. I had an ex boyfriend, white dude, who I got into an argument with and he got into his car with his friend and followed me to my mothers house. I got to my mothers house and called 911. The guy who drove him was white, he sold crystal meth. There was a man in the back. He was Hispanic. The police pulled him out of the backseat, search 10 and ran his drivers license. The driver, a blonde haired blue eyed white guy with drugs on him, was left alone. Get out of your delusion. Stop being a coward and face reality.by the way Miguel didn’t have anything on him, the police bothered him for no reason, for no probable cause.

          • Mike______Morris

            Sounds like you need to raise your standards

          • GoodbyeUSA

            Doubtful story. And police don’t need PC to pat down a stalker or run a license. Moreover, by “common enterprise” all in the car are under the same suspicion.

          • Craig Nelson

            Sounds made up.

          • shea

            It is.

          • shea

            Prove it.

          • fatfree

            I guess you don’t understand how institutional racism works then. Why don’t you research psychology publications or talk to a social worker and then tell me if there is no truth to Juliu’s statement – the justice system was not designed to serve blacks, FACT! And it is also a fact that blacks are incarcerated with stiffer sentences and penalties than whites committing the same crimes, FACT. You obviously have no idea what many blacks (and other minorities) have to endure is this country. Folks need to understand your world view isn’t the only one that exists. And Mike, calling someone a moron and a idiot b/c you don’t agree with thier perspective actually makes you the idiot. You don’t even have any presentable facts to justify calling someone an idiot lol!

          • Joshua N

            Sentencing for equal crimes is enormously disproportionate in favor of white people.
            It’s one of those ugly American facts that most people just ignore.
            I’m not jumping in on either side of this argument. Just pointing out that facts are facts.
            The justice system is far more inclined to give harsher punishments to black people than white people.
            You don’t have to google far to find credible sources for this info.
            It’s pretty widely known.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            Yes the stats are posted on the Department of Justice website… Ppl blissfully choose to stay ignorant… Idk why but thats the usual American way. My foreign colleagues make fun of our idiotic ways to a point of offense but I can not deny the fact they are right

          • Hadey

            You are wrong mike. However, it is not just a race thing. It’s also a socio-economic thing as well. If you don’t have money, then you are more likely to go to prison. However, if you look at stats, black and hispanics generally have less money than white, thereby more black and hispanics are in prison. Don’t be ignorant, educate yourself and understand why things are the way they are.

          • Mike H

            Hadey, that is not a true statistic. Poverty stricken white people still out number Black and Hispanic. The reason that the numbers appear skewed is because there are still less black and hispanic people. If you look at individual census reports, you’ll get a percentage of a given race but if you look at the actual estimated numbers for that percentage as they relate to each race, you’ll see that there are still more poor whitey’s.

            Also, “white” means anything that is not African American, Hispanic, Native American, Asian or “other”. That encompasses a whole lot of people that truly wouldn’t be considered “white”.

          • Jeryl Wilborn

            Actually the difference between whites and blacks prison term for selling crack is 100 to 1. Blacks do 30 years for every white persons 3 for the same drug. THIS IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

          • YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW

            THAT IS NOT A FACT MIKE. WHITE MAN OR CIA PUT ALL THE COCAINE IN LOS ANGELES NEIGHBORHOODS AND NONE OF THEM WENT TO JAIL. ISN’T UNTIL SPEED CAME ALONG THE WHITE MAN DRUG OF CHOICE DID THEY START GETTING HARD ON DRUGS. SPEED ENTER THOSE WHITE SECLUDED NEIGHBORHOODS. REGARDLESS IF THESE FOOLISH ARGUMENTS OR POINTS EVERYONE IS TRYING TO PROVE. KAREEM REMARKS RING TRUE. RACISM ONLY HAS AN IMPACT WHEN YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DEPRIVE ANOTHER PERSON OF AN OPPORTUNITY. THEN IT SHOULD AND HAS TO BE DEALT WITH SPECIALLY IF THOSE YOU’RE BELITTLING ARE THE ONE YOUR BENEFITING FROM. IF ANY PERSON THAT DOESN’T HAVE POWER MAKES A STATEMENT LIKE BARKLEY NO ONE CARES. I SURELY DON’T. LIKE YOUR IDIOTIC STATEMENT. MOST SUICIDE BOMBERS OR RAPIST ARE WHITE.

          • Mayor_Vaughan2012

            I fear the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. They have been seen by as many people as God.

          • eportales

            Sorry Mike, you need to check the facts, the prisons are full of non-whites disproportionately to their percentage of the population even though whites have as many drug, gang and other issues as non-whites. This can only happen if whites are not being arrested or prosecuted as often as non-whites.

          • MS47

            I found Julius Carroll’s comment offensive, but he has a point that I’m afraid you seem to have missed. The incarceration of Black males is all out of proportion to the crimes they commit. A White man convicted of, let’s say selling drugs — assuming he even gets arrested, let alone convicted — is likely to serve harder time for a longer period than a Black man guilty of the same crime. This isn’t an opinion. It’s a fact. Much has been written about it that you might wish to read. And by the way, you would do your deity greater honor by not calling its creations idiots. Just imagine how that makes him feel.

          • Jay Bird Taylor

            Well almost. Traditionally in our justice system whites are given shorter sentence or no sentences for crimes committed by minorities. This is a financial element access to better lawyers and because jailing blacks and brown people are a multibillion dollar industry. I invite you to look at the statistics online http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_black_men_in_prison#slide=from the comical and easy to the hard numbers. Its a sad truth but also hard to see when your not being patted down dealing with random searches and probed.

          • OfficerURL

            Thank you!!! People assume that just because laws are laws that they are just. they don’t know who introduced them or who was lobbying for them, in fact they don’t know why so many minorities are in jail. They assume all minorities are guilty, even though almost every person set free from prison for false imprisonment is a minority. Interesting trend… don’t you think? haha

          • Amanda Hardy

            UNLESS those black people are rich. Honestly, I think it’s more about your economic status. People are just so hung up on color, they can’t see clearly. Like many rich white people who have gotten off for a horrible crime, there are many rich black people who have gotten off despite a horrible crime.

          • Matthew Rail

            Yeah, that’s it. Hahahaha.

          • Teletwang101

            Whatever make you sleep at night, Princess.

          • Incog Neto

            That statement is just as racist as any other. Maybe your employer should be made aware of it.

          • http://batman-news.com Bjork

            You got the brain of an idiot. This past week 3 black people in Chicago took part in the murder of a 14 year old black girl. A 14 year old black girl, her adult black uncle and a black 17 year old did the killing. All are charged with the crime. Over a boy and facebook. That is the value they put on life. Us white people aren’t afraid of you, your killing yourselves.

          • Joshua N

            And let me guess…
            It was another glorious day where not a single white person committed a violent crime?
            Sure.

          • Amanda Hardy

            Nope. A white person commited a crime too. I know because there are scum bags of every color.

          • DME

            hardly. It’s because whites are allowed to get away with their crimes, and minorities are targeted or framed by corrupt white cops too often for crimes they don’t even commit. Are you honestly trying to tell me that you don’t think that the criminal justice system targets minorities, while ignoring the crimes of whites? Haha you are diluted beyond words.

          • hearmetalking

            As you can see DME is a perfect example of I be the victim BS. Instead of accepting responsibility, start blaming the system, Blame whitey, blame somebody.

          • fatfree

            You should really read more because you have no idea what you’re talking about. There’s PLENTY of literature, in psychology and in other fields that explains racism, intuitional racism, classism and how they affect the people in this country. Just because you are white and have not been subjected to the marginalization that minorities have experienced in this country since day 1, doesn’t mean you are right. Get a freakin’ clue please. Thanks.

          • hearmetalking

            FATFREE your problem is obvious, Psychology is the main reason that truth is hidden and people like you peek around from behind this Psychology for support rather than face the facts. Look at all the blacks that have succeeded & prospered in this country that applied their self. Failures like you will always blame others for your lack of interest and and gimme attitude.Fat free do you think I was not mocked and belittled as a child, even by grown ups, I was mocked for trying to go to church and not having shoes to wear. I was mocked for a disability I was born with, Later in life I hired some of the same people who mocked me when I was a child. I was blessed with a desire to learn and help other people rather than sit around on my ass and find some reason to blame others for me being dirt poor. The name Fat free probably speaks volumes about you

          • fatfree

            You seem to have a lot of assumptions about me stranger. How do you know I’m a failure? I’ve said nothing of my accomplishments or setbacks, yet you seem to have all these assumptions about me. The psychology you speak of is most likely from a Eurocentric perspective and will not be the perspective from which I will practice. Also, I don’t have to hide behind anything dear, this is my reality and I speak from a place truth and I am a very rational person. The fact that you and others like to dance around real issues that affect real people is truly sad. EVERYONE on this planet has life experiences that is uniquely their own. But, I refuse to allow this racist mindset, held by many on this thread, thwart my community’s ability to free themselves from mental slavery. You cannot speak on this because this is not your legacy, therefore, you have no right to dismiss my experiences as black person in this world. How dare you.

          • justme

            In

          • kevin

            This is the best post I have seen on here. Very well put.

          • Chase Robert

            I’m going to go ahead and assume that you weren’t a slave, nor were you born in the 30’s, 40’s, and 50’s so how dare you? How dare you think you know what it was like for your ancestors who dealt wi firsthandth it

          • fatfree

            Excuse me, but am I supposed to ignore history? Doesn’t history effect the present? Just b/c I wasn’t alive during slavery or the years you noted, doesn’t mean that oppression does not continue today. I can’t believe you can’t see that connection or maybe you just refuse to. I could care less about gaining sympathy from anyone. Those who understand and live my reality get it, those who don’t, won’t.

            As for the Eurocentric perspectives in the mental health community, it is well documented that psychological publications and approaches do not apply to all groups of people, this is a fact and that is why the mental health field is scrambling to push multicultural and diversity training in schools – we live in a very diverse country in case you didn’t notice genius and so all helping services must reflect this phenomena. Once again, your entire rant is fueled by hate and instead of responding with sincere curiosity, you attack me by making all types of assumptions. No, I don’t want pity, I pity ppl who think like you.

          • hearmetalking

            Poor poor pitiful me, I’m black so you must feel sorry for me.Get a life, Get a job. If you must whine go somewhere no one will hear you, When you get tired of feeling sorry for your self, Do something for your self and others.

          • fatfree

            You seem to have a lot of assumptions about me stranger. How do you know I’m a failure? I’ve said nothing of my accomplishments or setbacks, yet you seem to have all these assumptions about me. The psychology you speak of is most likely from a Eurocentric perspective and will not be the perspective from which I will practice. Also, I don’t have to hide behind anything dear, this is my reality and I speak from a place truth and I am a very rational person. The fact that you and others like to dance around real issues that affect real people is truly sad. EVERYONE on this planet has life experiences that is uniquely their own. But, I refuse to allow this racist mindset, held by many on this thread, thwart my community’s ability to free themselves from mental slavery. You cannot speak on this because this is not your legacy, therefore, you have no right to dismiss my experiences as black person in this world. How dare you.

          • fatfree

            OH, and your entire comment only drives mine and other’s point. RACIST IMBECILE!

          • hearmetalking

            Just keep on believing in your Lie-cology.To hell with with the truth or facts.

          • fatfree

            And that’s why I have no respect for people who think like you. DENIAL. You expect me to empathize with your experiences growing up but you completely override my experiences as if you know everything about everything? HEARTLESS. You have to be the one of the most ignorant, in-compassionate beings that I have come across in a while. Clearly your hate has rendered you incapable of understanding other people’s world- view or comprehending b/c out of all of the points I’ve made, your only focus is on my respect for and interest in psychology? SMH.

          • hearmetalking

            Fatfree I could care less for your respect, When I was working my ass off and helping others that was trying to do the same. I earned my living and so did everyone else,I was associated with. Heartless, not compassionate, is one thing. Babying whinnies is a whole different thing. Never had time for that

          • fatfree

            Why do you keep assuming I do nothing? I don’t get it. Is it your racist attitude not allowing you to see the words that ppl type or are you slow? I’m done trying to have a civilized debates with incompetent, bigoted ppl. Have a blessed one =)

          • Mike______Morris

            I have my record to prove it lol

          • DME

            seriously do you really believe the rest of us have been fooled into believing that whites don’t commit crimes? I know plenty of white themes and drug dealers.and I know you know them too. do you honestly think blacks smoke marijuana more marijuana did whites? Of course you don’t. But I doubt if you are courageous enough to confront the reality that blacks are never the less incarcerated at a rate four times that of whites for marijuana.You just believe falsely that you’re basking in delusion that fewer and fewer people are falling for. you’re just another white coward who can’t exist in a world where there is an inherited Vantage in your favor. Because you know that you wouldn’t have what it takes to survive otherwise. Keep lying to yourself coward. if that’s what gets you through the night.

          • fatfree

            Well said, thank you.

          • Nick

            so what ur saying is white people couldn’t “survive” on an equal playing field with all the other races?

          • J L

            You know I’d fear someone too that pulled a gun on me and acted like a bunch of wild animals all the time. You can blame the white man all you want but in the end, it’s your own black ass that gets you put away.

          • Ronnie Richard

            You realize this is just as, if not more racist, than the topic you are commenting on.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            The reason why blacks and hispanics are the majority in prisons is because their moms (your mom, Julios) are doing such a poor job. And they don’t have dads.

          • jay

            Not true, I’m An African American, and I grew up without a dad. I have 2 degrees, nice job, living the American dream. Your statement is 100% false. Stupid people end up in jail, and I’m sorry to inform you that they come in all colors.

          • GoodbyeUSA

            You, Jay, are the exception that proves the rule. And yes, people of all colors end up in jails. But that’s mostly because white people also have absentee fathers and ill-equipped mothers. If you control for single parenting the disparity in incarceration rates between the races disappears. What is false is your statement that stupid people end up in jail. While the average aptitude in prison is lower that the population at large, the difference is slight. There are lots of bright and brilliant people in prison. The problem is the moral decay that has infected their intelligence.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            I’ve never been incarcerated either nor has any of my family members or friends. Actually I do not even know a person locked up for violent crime and only know of one person locked up for a petty weed possession charge of 3yrs for 2 grams… SO how may exceptions to your “view” will you make? Stupid ppl end up in jail. More black and brown ppl bc they do stupid things and end up in a justice system that hates them…

          • Amanda Hardy

            Well said and congrats on all your success!

          • SHAWSHANK

            Being caucasian, I as well as MOST, do not fear intelligent blacks or hispanics. We actually love them and encourage there to be more of them. We simply don’t like niggers, just like we don’t like crackers (white trash).

          • Mike______Morris

            Yeah, us white folks are scared that you might score a 22 on the MCAT and end up getting into medical school instead of us even though we scored a 34. We’re scared that you are actually racist enough to discriminate and use the color of your skin as an excuse. We’re scared that y’all might actually get away with a crime and not get sent to prison. We’re scared that there is a possibility that you will take responsibility for your community position and place more values on education despite the fact that articulating thoughts and making good grades makes you look “whitewashed” to your colleagues. ***sarcasm

          • Joseph Shillabeer

            Julius Carroll. I do not believe you know what racism is!
            I don’t believe anyone knows what the dictionary definition of racism is any more!

            I’ll give it to you:
            Racism:
            “1.the belief that races have distinctive cultural
            characteristics determined by hereditary factors
            and that this endows some races with an
            intrinsic superiority over others.”

            THAT RACES HAVE DISTINCTIVE CULTURAL CHARACTERISTICS.
            Therefore Sir.. Your comment stating:
            “A white man can not compare to an intelligent black or Hispanic male, therefore the white man look for any reason to put us in prison.”

            You, here demonstrate, you believe white people have a distinctive cultural characteristic, in that white people feel they must be superior in one way or another.

            You Sir, have demonstrated racism.

          • PerpetualDisappointment

            I’m sure he knew he was being racist… It’s okay to be racist as long as you’re not white.

          • onebigred1

            seriously…..if the black man is more intelligent then why is he in jail….don’t you think they would be smart enough to not get caught.

          • uuuughhh

            thats the type of comment that misses the entire point of racism in the first place. if whites feared blacks then blacks wouldve become dignified a hundred years ago.

          • Chase Robert

            Well aren’t you just the best person to speak put on racial issues? You are clearly the most racist person to post on here yet. Sterling never said anything SPECIFICALLY about white men being superior to black. Should he be punished? Of course and I’m glad he was, but for you to say that white men can’t compare to intelligent blacks or Hispanics is worse than any racist statement I’ve head in years and you think you can speak out against racism when all you’re doing is breeding it you moron! And I love how you automatically assume that anyone who has viewpoint different than yours is a racist when you yourself are more of a racist than anyone here. Clearly you’re not one of those intelligent blacks or Hispanics so according to you I shouldn’t fear you. And I don’t.

          • shea

            “A white man can not compare to an intelligent black or Hispanic male,”

            Racist much?

          • shea

            School grades, graduation rates, and SAT scores do not bear out this statement.

          • Bill

            You can’t !be serious right now? So when a black guy kills a 2 year old with a stray bullet while shooting at someone else it’s because he’s too smart for the white man and imprisoned because of it, not because he murdered someone? Wow, just WOW!

          • Derek Torp

            thats such an ignorant and pathetic statement.

          • AmericanmexPhil

            I’m Hispanic I did my time and I know why Blacks and Hispanic’s are locked up. Because they’re thugs and punks just like I used to be. I’m like that guy that used to smoke cigarettes and can’t stand people who smoke around me. Julius. Drop yourself in the middle of the outlaw world and when you see no conscience and feel no conscience watching an innocent man bleed for a car, a wallet, or just because he’s white. Then tell me that 98% of what is in prisons don’t belong there. There are very few that are able to walk away. There’s a reason for all people to fear every color that comes out of that system.

          • Nick

            “A white man can not compare to an intelligent black or hispanic male”. Because this earth is made of only 3 races. You asshole ur more racist then donald sterling. The only difference being he’s rich and ur dumb.

          • goldie2012

            how ridiculous. that is as racist as any statement sterling made.

          • Lolly

            That is a load of blarney. If someone is intelligent, then they’re intelligent. End of story. People of ALL nations of genetic origin are intelligent. (we’re all part of the same race, by the way) And, actually, in the part of the thread of which you and I are a part, there is NO ONE defending Sterling. They are merely saying that there are other people who are also known for being racist in the NBA (i hate white people, etc.) who are not being banned or fined

          • Cloey Jade

            Ignorance. Xs 2

          • Northwest_Raised

            If the down votes were still tallied, Trollius Carroll wouldn’t be here. Hurt his widdle self-esteem. Probably one of the crybabies who threatened to sue Disqus unless they got rid of the down votes.

          • Jordan Johnson

            this is literally the most racist thing i’ve ever read…….

          • Chris McCoy

            No your in jail cause you BREAK THE LAW THE MOST…lol Keep on feeding yourself that horse shht

          • tim richards

            Racist.

          • Lauren

            Julius, you my friend, are an idiot…..God help you

          • Lauren

            Oh, and Julius, just one more thing, the next time you or a loved one is sick and may need penicillin or any antibiotic, you can thank an intelligent white dude for discovering it. You can also thank whitey for most of the inventions that were pertinent during the industrial revolution. You have a phone? Thank the white guy, you have electricity? Thank whitey…..sorry, just proved your intelligence “theory” wrong. You may now insert your chocolate foot into your mouth. Don’t forget the whipped cream!

          • kevin

            Wow. Just wow. The hypocrisy is staggering. If a white man says, “A black man can’t compare to an intelligent white man.” he would be denounced as the worst sort of racist. But somehow it’s OK for you to say that? What you just typed is even more racist than what Sterling said!

          • Rob Hartman

            Did you listen to the complete audio the golddigging tramp gave to the tabloid site?

          • Dan

            The only difference between you and I are our cultures and upbringing. No race is superior to any other. White men don’t fear the black man, the elite families that rule the world fear the black man. Thus all the laws aimed at jailing and suppressing him.

          • pepjrp

            I wish I was as smart as you. Can you help me on my SAT’s?

          • pepjrp

            I’m guessing that you belong to the party that murders millions of babies annually. 10’s of 1000’s of black babies as well.

          • Adam

            Your just an idiot. If an intelligent black man or Hispanic was such a super human. You would think in the tens of thousands of years during the history of man, they would have remedied the “imprisonment” of their people. Let me guess, you are owed something for the great injustice.

          • Ilovemydawg88

            Really?? I will go toe to toe with any person regardless of color. I am NOT afraid of anyone and trust me.. Plenty o’ friends who would laugh hard at your ridiculous and quite stupid statement. You are an idiot my friend and a racist. Go get help.. Or better yet, since you are such a victim of the mean, awful white man.. take the next plane back to whatever country you think might be better. Idiot!

          • Proud2bfromtheUSA

            your comment is the very definition of racism .

            rac·ism

            noun ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-

            : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race

            : the belief that some races of people are better than others

          • Sam Laws

            You’re totally right. I don’t associate with weak minded people and know so many great examples you could use to fortify your position. But where are the communities built and occupied by the intelligent masses you speak of? Tell me the truth cabron. Wouldn’t they be able to work around or within the system to make it work for their genius minds? Perhaps even create their own, since we are beyond comparison? It’s a cultural issue. Take accountability and help the people you lionize become the fact you just created online. I can wait. Seriously, we have time.

          • Colleen

            I really think you should rethink that comment Julius I would think because those people CHOSE to go to jail or committed a crime. I get so tired of the narcissistic attitude of people blaming everyone but themselves.

          • Amanda Hardy

            Your racism is no more acceptable than a white persons’ racism. Racists like you make me sick. Everyone is different. There are smart black people, smart white people, smart Asian people, smart Mexicans. Let’s not be stupid and judge someone by their SKIN COLOR. Let’s start to love one another and forget about ignorance like this.

          • Darryl Purdie

            Julius your an asshole!

          • fatfree

            You and everyone who liked your comment is a racist pig =)

          • J L

            Uh huh, if you say so.

          • Chase Robert

            You and Julius are more racist than anyone else here. It’s obvious through both of you all’s comments where the true racism lies.

          • fatfree

            And it’s obvious you don’t understand what racism means and how it works. You have a blessed one =)

          • Cloey Jade

            Ignorance.

          • Frederick

            blacks and Hispanics are the majority in AMERICA. You know the country where white people COMMIT the most crime, but seem to always have a good reason not to go to jail, like that rich white kid who ran over a few people but got off because he is too rich.

          • J L

            Better check your numbers again, we’re still the minority in America.

          • Mayor_Vaughan2012

            another example of a deep, critically thought response, you folks on the right, are a bunch of hillbillies. “Yeah, look how many black and latinos are in prison will ya??? see???!! that proves it, whites are better!!!” pay no attention to the complicated sociological, racial and economic reasons behind the large number of minorities behind bars. Just say its their fault. Life is much easier when it’s black and white.

          • J L

            I’m black and as a black man, I can point out the problems within my own race. And since Latino’s are almost considered black as well, I’m pretty sure I can at least offer an opinion on them as well.

            The problem with the black race has nothing to do with the “white man” holding us down mentality that other blacks have. The only thing holding blacks down are blacks. It’s the same for any of the races out there, you don’t hear white trash whites going on and on about how the Latino’s or Blacks are holding them down do you? No, they get out there, they bust their asses and try to make something of themselves.

            If there is an enemy of our race (which btw is the human race) then it is ourselves. You don’t hear the Asians bitching that the white man is holding them down, nor do you here the Indians (not the Native American Indians) complaining the white man is holding them down. No, they get out there, they get their educations and they go somewhere with life.

            I was raised in Brooklyn, my parents couldn’t afford a nice house in the suburbs or anything better than our shitty apartment, so I took it upon myself to get educated, and to fight the stereotypes that have plagued our race because of the blame game that we like to play on the whites. Black people are always looking to blame someone else, the blame has to start with us. Simple as that.

          • OfficerURL

            Really. that has to be the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read, @soul_touch:disqus is pretty ignorant also, but to just pass off the subjugation and contempt society as a whole has for minorities as “ah they’re just Lazy” is insane. Did you factor in the low funding for inner city schools? or what about laws that discriminate against minorities… I’m not saying that it’s just white people (anyone who thinks it is is stupider than you two fellas) I’m saying that when your pushed in a corner, when you’ve exposed to racism in your home, school, music, just about everything about you is quantified firstly as this type of minority and you represent everyone ever for some damn reason, the pressure is maddening wouldn’t you think? that whatever you do the bar is set incredibly high or low because of someone else that is apart of that same demographic failed or succeeded and have nothing to do with who you are. but hey, whatever you want to think is fine, this is america… I assume you two sides of the same coin stopped already stopped reading

          • J L

            As I have stated numerous times before, I am black. And like it or not, our race is lazy as hell. We’d rather people give us handouts or do dirt in the streets than to work a honest job.

          • TIK

            You are a certfied racist idiot.

          • Soul Touch

            And you are a blind white man who cannot accept the truth.

          • TIK

            Wrong again. You need to take responsibility for yourself and stop blaming the WHITE MAN! You will be happier.

          • Soul Touch

            It is not about me. It is about people being discriminated and brutalised by white people in power.

          • Observer

            So we should let the blacks conduct the evil now? I see nno sense in trading one master for another.

          • Brandon

            I don’t know what world you live in but I’ve never even thought that we live in a world where blacks could be the master that’s the most asinine statement I’ve ever heard

          • hearmetalking

            Look at the history of blacks, not just the ones who live in America but all over the world.They can not take care of their self, They are not known for building, They are know for destruction.only about 14% of blacks prosper, Why do you think that is. Blacks have the same chance at education, and other resources as everyone else. but they are in most part lazy and will not apply their self for a better life

          • Soul Touch

            Black people were never destroying other nations. Rich and diverse cultures, a strong spirituality, close ties to nature which was wiped out by the white man and forever distorted. Black people were even the first humans, they had a head start and still did not cause mass murder on every land they touched like white people do.

          • J L

            Do you forget, that it was our own people that sold our ancestors into slavery? Pick up a history book sometimes, moron. You make the rest of us look like idiots.

            Also, perhaps you REALLY should look up what’s going on with all the mass killings in Africa.

          • K Killion

            love it and its still happening today!

          • J L

            Ignorance pisses me off, especially when he spouts idiotic crap like that.

          • Eeeeee

            Oops, JL, I think I should have read your responses to Soul Touch before I made my own. That was exactly my point. Thank you.

          • Leaders By Example INC

            YOu know what I hate when ppl resort to blk ppl sold the first slaves.. You do your history.. First off a slave in Africa was a servant working off a debt.. that was then released after he worked off his debt or were captives from a village that was overtaken.. NOT KEPT FOREVER AND NEVER GRANTED FREEDOM! Do some research on the African tribes like the Negus off the coast who sold their captives.. Also once the captives were sold some of the very kings and queens or Chiefs that sold them were KIDNAPPED into slavery with the slaves they sold. Sheessshh Don’t believe everything you hear without thorough research from more than one source….

          • J L

            You know what I hate? People who don’t know their history and yet think that a history major wouldn’t know his. These Slaves were from different tribes, they were NOT indentured servants. Sure, some were kidnapped, but the majority were sold slaves that didn’t belong to the same tribe, they were also NEVER granted freedom, once a slave always a slave.

          • Eeeeee

            They were destroying their own nations though (if I am remembering my world history correctly). Not defending the trade slave from hundreds of years ago but I’m pretty sure they were dealing in slave trade among their own African tribes before the Europeans started to participate. Until then I believe servants, slaves, surfs, whatever you want to call them were mostly also European. I’m just pointing out that you are seeing things through some pretty historically inaccurate lenses yet you keep posting these things as if they are fact. Perhaps you need to do a little bit more reading from some credible sources.

          • DSharp

            Sound like to me you are a racist person also. So why are you comparing whites to blacks. Is does not matter if you are black, white, gay, lesbian, athiest, christian or whatever you may be, but we are all equal and nobody is better or less than anyone else, some just try to be better than everyone else, because they like to strart drama. There are those of ALL colors who are evil and crazy and you and this idiot just liked to stir the pot, when the pot was stirred along time ago, knowing that this man was a racist. You sound very hateful and need to get a life, rather than judging folks, because you do not like them, not all people are bad, but stuff like this,,is making all of the good folks, black and white or whatever and of course you are making the good people look bad.

          • Jay Herring

            ok if you think it doesn’t matter if you’re white or black in America …. you my friend are obviously white

          • J L

            It doesn’t matter what color you are, get your ignorant ass an education and conform to society and don’t act like a ghetto retard, it’s that simple. Blacks have that stigmata simply because of other idiot blacks out there.

          • Jay Herring

            lol you are the most ignorant troll on this site. i have seen a few of your comments and they are not things a educated or a intelligent person would say you are just bashing any and everyone that doesn’t agree with you which only shows how idiotic you are i would say to you don’t confuse education with intelligence but its obvious you have neither …. lol …. good day to sir seeing that all your points are just the ramblings of someone that just wants attention i say to you seek it else where cause you my friend are a fool and i dont socialize wit fools :)

          • J L

            Aww did I hurt your poor little feelings by stating the facts? Here are a list of successful blacks in the United States, that because they got an education and didn’t act like ghetto retards, they became successful.

            Herman Cain: Owned a chain a restaurants and was on the FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD

            Oprah: We all know what she ended up becoming.

            Kenneth Frazier: CEO of Merck and Co, yea, you know the people you get your drugs from to sell. Yea, he’s CEO.

            Kenneth Chenault: CEO of American Express

            Barack Hussein Obama: Yep, another black man, became a Lawyer, then a community organizer, then a senator and where does he sit right now? Oh that’s right, he would be the president of the USA.

            If they can do it, you can too, it’s NOT about color, it IS about the way you act though.

          • db143

            So says the one who obviously cannot type a sentence correctly! Improper grammar, “chat speak” and run on sentences do not lend credibility to someone who happens to be calling someone else ignorant!

          • Soul Touch

            It does matter what colour you are because white people oppress through such distinctions. No other race has the POWER to be racist. It is the white man who is in all the top positions of the white world and thus dictates power. These white people ARE racist. I wouldn’t write what I have to write if it wasn’t true. We are all human but like I said, it is the white humans who cause the most destruction. The longer you continue to avoid the truth, the more chance you and your chilren have at becoming racist oppressors.

          • K Killion

            REALLY? I am white and I am not RACISTS. I pity majority of blacks using the race cards. We have black man in the White House ruining on what country is based on….FREEDOM. Japanese are very racist, you should visit their country.

          • Justin Wingate

            Are u serious? no but really?……my mind just cluster fucked with stupidity… A white world??A black man is the president of the united states.

            everything you keep saying is making me have less hope for the world. you keep pointing a finger directly at whites.. its not about color.. even though u keep making it that way, how about we just say it’s mostly dumbasses? That works right? or are you going to continue to say its mostly whites which even by statistics isn’t true at all.

          • MOBmusic

            Well said, that’s the truth.

          • bob the builder…

            have you been to asia lately?

          • JustLee

            You need to crawl out from under the rock you are living in under. You have elevated yourself to the company of Sterling. You are a racist.

          • Soul Touch

            Sorry for stating facts. If you cannot accept that white people have caused the most murder and destruction on the planet then you are a blind fool.

          • Nick Bradford

            If you count GOD wiping out the entire earth and placing a few white folks on a ARC to start over, then yes, you are probably correct.

          • Gary Hart

            You know, its funny how you are on here acting like a lucid commenter, yet in earlier comments on another article, you talk about how you and your “nigs” could gang rape a 14 year old girl whose father had taken a time progression video of her growing up. Did you think those comments would just disappear? Once you write crap like that, its on the internet forever, and it makes every other argument you have put forth here about hateful white people completely invalid.

          • K Killion

            German caused most mass murders. Have you looked at Detroit who do you think that destroyed that beautiful city to ground?

          • JustLee

            What facts? You make a broad, blanket statement without specifics and call it facts. That is not facts. Get out a dictionary and educate yourself. I guess you didn’t pay attention in history class, nor the news. You probably never heard of the continent Africa and the countries that lie within it. One in particular commited mass genocide rather recently. Ignorance is not bliss. Wake up, turn off the mainstream media and get a clue as to what is going on out there.

          • Time

            If that’s not an unbiased statement I don’t know what is. I’m glad people with such a profound understanding of human history are able to write their opinions for the rest of the uneducated public. Thank god for you, Soul Touch!

          • Justin Wingate

            your “white god” apparently

          • ReneeCd

            That’s terrible. I’m really sorry you feel that way. In essence saying that makes you just as bad as Sterling, and that’s an ugly place to be. :(
            Damn. Smh.

          • Soul Touch

            So slavery, native american mass genocide, holocaust, nagasaki, hiroshima etc. never happened?

          • J L

            Soul you didn’t live through none of that, so don’t speak on it as if you did. I’m getting so sick of my fellow black man, going on and on about slavery, something he never participated in. And now you’re just being retarded. Now you’re trying to compare stuff that happened during times of war with slavery. Get out dude. You’re too stupid to participate in this conversation.

          • Amanda Hardy

            There are horrible things that every race has done. You aren’t aware of them, however, or so it seems, because you are so focused on your racism.

          • Daniel Peed

            On a global scale? I think not. Drug/Gang wars in south america. Slave trade still going on in several parts of the eastern world ranging from Europe to Africa to Asia, whether it be full on slave trading or sexual slave trading, its still slavery. There are plenty of corrupt people in this world, it is not white man alone. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Anyone who is in a position of power over others has the potential to cause destruction/disruption. Let’s not forget all the black on black, mexican on mexican crimes that occur every day here in the united states alone because of ‘territorial disputes and gang warfare’

          • Soul Touch

            No one said it was the white man alone. I simply said white people have and continue to cause the most destruction. White people in power bankers/military/pharmacy/corporations oppress the world in different ways. If people were actually given their own freedom and if the western white nations stopped playing global police/bully the world would be a better place. Ask your self who is waging all the wars these days…

          • Amanda Hardy

            It’s pathetic how stuck on color you are. America likes to go to war, not a specific race, you ass.

          • Joe Barthelmess

            You are clearly ignorant and this type of thinking is why this world will never get past the color of a person’s skin.

          • Soul Touch

            Maybe the world would get past skin colour when white people do. White people control the planet and have and continue to cause all the major global issues. Show me one black person who has denied a white person of career progression, and then look at it the other way around.

          • pj

            Oh, I actually can…I worked for a black man who owned a small company and his black assistant told him lies about me to get rid of me and he believed her over me and fired me, even though he had hired me as her boss! So yes there are plenty of racists on both sides

          • K Killion

            You tell those young black kids stay in school, stop having babies dont do drugs and stay out gangs. problem solved.

          • Joe Barthelmess

            Your argument makes no sense and furthermore most of your arguments on this subject are very lacking in facts. #1. White people do not deny black people career progression, people deny them, whether it is the employee’s or employer’s fault. To lump all white people together in such an ignorant statement demonstrates the exact sort of racism you are claiming exists from whites towards blacks. #2. Most of the world’s turmoil exists in the Middle East, Africa and the Baltics. These are not white people. Learn your human geography. #3. It was blacks that began selling blacks into slavery. So, again, let me know how this was caused by white people. That is a convenient fact that persons thinking they are entitled this or that for something that happened about 150 years ago seem to forget or leave out. Time to stop pulling the race card, put in the work like everyone else does to get ahead and stop blaming everyone else for your failures.

          • Marc

            We should NEVER generalize! Nor–make such blanket statements (unless you have facts to backup your allegations.)

          • Soul Touch

            Slavery, colonists, native americans almost extinct, holocaust, nagasaki, hiroshima, middle east… and that is just a few.

          • J L

            Let me prove how much more ignorant i can be by comparing atrocities of WW2 to actual racism. Go away troll.

          • Marc

            REPEATING: “EVERYONE HATES WHITE PEOPLE…” should NOT be a generalization. (And, by the way–many people CHOOSE NOT TO HATE!!!) Not to mention– hate definitely interferes with your life, health, etc..

          • D Mousse

            Take a look at the Rwandan genocide and get back to me.

          • Gary Hart

            Take a walk around Africa and get back to me.

          • Soul Touch

            White people corrupted Africa and it’s people through slavery and forcing their white god bullshit religion on them. I never saw an African nation taking over any other nation, enslaving people, poisoning the ecosystem, and forcing their culture/religion on anyone

          • Gary Hart

            Go to Central African Republic right now and you will see executions for religion. In Ethiopia and Nigeria, enslavement of each other. Throughout Africa’s history, what little has been recorded, there have long been wars and acts of cruelty that make even the Germans look tame. Even more recent, Idi Amin was removed from power over the tragic and terrible invasion of Kenya that he launched. Thats just a couple of quick examples. You’ve clearly never been there, and don’t know SHT about it.

          • Daniel Peed

            You do realize.. the african slave trade was started because a tribe leader SOLD his people into slavery..

          • Jeff

            Remind me…how many young girls were just kidnapped in Nigeria? 220? Early evidence shows they are being sold into forced marriages to their Islamic extremist captors.

            Do you feel better now that you have 220 concrete examples (from this week alone) of Africans enslaving people and forcing their culture/religion on others? Or, do we need to start discussing Al Shabab’s charitable activity at Kenyan malls?

            Your opinion on this subject appears to be drenched with personal bias. While my rational side says “why bother,” my humanist side hopes that sufficiently challenged, you’ll self-evaluate and lose the persecution complex. People of all creeds and colors do nasty things to other humans. Placing all the blame on a single group just implicitly validates the horrible actions of the others.

          • Justin Wingate

            our white god bullshit? hmmm…

          • BigBadBruce

            There aren’t enough white people relative to global population to make that claim. You must also consider the good white people have done as well as the evil. Honestly,I think your comment is just as racist as anything Sterling said.

          • Soul Touch

            It does not compare to what Sterling said. I stated plain facts. Look at history to now and see who caused the most murder and destruction. It was white people whether you like it or not. Of course there are plenty of white people who have done great things but it doesn’t change the massive negative impact white people have had on the planet. I’m just being honest. Sterling was speaking from HATE.

          • BigBadBruce

            By what standards do you make this claim? You don’t even try to justify your argument with examples or statistics. You just thoughtlessly toss this claim around with full knowledge that you probably won’t be challenged on a site like this. Thoughtlessly rationalizing the hatred of an entire race is racist, like it or not.

          • fatfree

            Are we supposed to love racists? If it doesn’t apply to you, then it doesn’t apply to you. Calling out racism does’t someone a racist. I think it goes without saying comments like this applies only to racist white ppl, not all.

          • K Killion

            and it was a private conversation and what to freedom speech?????????????

          • halebopp2001@hotmail.com

            Reading through your previous history of comments on other articles, you really belong in jail. Sad, sad person you are.

          • Eeeeee

            Um… isn’t this what you said? “Everyone hates white people because they continue to cause the most destruction and disruption on the planet like they have done since historic times and it isn’t a personal-individual vendetta, it is a hate against white people as a whole. No matter the race everyone is human and equally has the potential to be evil but white people cause the most trouble on a global scale.” So…. when you say “Everyone *HATES* white people” you are stating plain facts? Do you even understand what a fact is?

          • Justin Wingate

            So, when u say white people.. you do realize there are several other races you must be considering white? or are you aiming at caucasians?

          • Chase Robert

            Dude you have absolutely no right to comment on racism because you yourself live in a delusional world where all white people are evil. Your continuous grouping of all white people and insisting that they are all evil makes you a bigger racist than anyone who commented here. You are uneducated, ignorant, and delusional. Go rape a 14 year old like you said you would on the other article.

          • hearmetalking

            Soul just gave you her opinion,which is equal to a fried egg. The sound of a true racist, Wow what hippocrates some of these 2 watt brain cell people are

          • Chad Debrun

            Do you understand the definition of a Watt? Moron!

          • hearmetalking

            Watt is you saying dad burn. I see you signed your name moron.

          • Chad Debrun

            Wow! I am overwhelmed with your witt! I love it when you nutjobs think it’s a bad thing to post with your name. Hide behind your screen much? Or would mommy get mad if she knew you were playing with the computer? Btw W=J/s ;the rate of doing work or power. Perhaps before you go around tossing cute insults at people, you could take the 2 seconds to use Google so you’re not the one that looks like an idiot.

          • hearmetalking

            Chad what in the hell are you mumbling about. Did you want to say something. Speak up, quit whining

          • Chad Debrun

            Ok…translation for the right-wing learning impaired. You and your ilk are fing idiots, that are too stupid to realize it.

          • hearmetalking

            Chad still mumbling, Typical left gimme. letting the working man support his sorry ass.

          • CBH

            Wow, talk about racist. Look in the mirror.

          • Guest

            FACT!

          • GoodbyeUSA

            I agree. White people wreak havoc like inventing medicine, cars, trains, planes, computers, electricity, rocket ships, toilets, etc. But to be fair, black people taught us how to perform a clitorectomy and chop a child’s arms off with a machete.

          • Chef

            All races have bad and has caused bad things. I am considered white because thats the closest to my skin color. My family on both sides came just before and after WWII. We didn’t have slaves and both my parents grew up dirt poor. In Sicily we were over run by many different cultures and countries throughout time, not all by “white”. I live in San Antonio and there are more scholarships for “minorities” than “Caucasians”. Charles Barkley should be fined for the negative comments said towards San Antonio. There are many slim beautiful women here in SA, and he never gets called out by the NBA. I agree that certain words should not be used for their negative manner. I also believe that if it’s wrong for one race it’s wrong for all. Keeping a negative word, allows unintelligent people to use it because it’s being tossed around. I believe in Equality, but do other races really believe that. I don’t like being called white, Caucasian, honky, cracker, etc. but do I make a deal out of it when it’s used anyways. No, I don’t, but would I get in trouble if I said the same thing. The answer is 100% yes. I really enjoyed reading Kareem’s thoughts and views. The clippers owner is racist, but this was not the time to call him out on it. It should have been way before. I bet at one time or another there was something said by everyone privately that they didn’t want heard publicly. Obama has 2 terms in office, “white” people voted for him including me. I don’t live in white, black, hispanic, etc kind of mind. I live in a manners, ethics, respect, hard work, character kind of mind. All races have bad and has caused bad things.

          • Eeeeee

            Chef – you mean someone who actually responded to what this article is really about? You,sir (?), are a class act :)

          • onebigred1

            lay off the crack loser….its starting to effect your ability to be human…

          • Mary Nunnink Owens

            Tell that to the Tutsi people in Rwanda as the Hutu sliced them up and gunned them down. What an ignoramus.

          • Eric Minor

            Apparently “Soul Touch” needs to be banned from the NBA for life!

          • Steve Tyler

            really this comment make you as big of racist as sterling there your double standard

          • shea

            Racists much?

            Post peer-reviewed or global crime stats that prove your point, or admit you are a liar.

          • Bill

            Right now the countries with the greatest unrest are ALL non white counties…Iraq, Somalia, Egypt, etc, etc do some research clown.

          • AmericanmexPhil

            Now that’s a racist remark if I ever heard. Give me some facts Soul Tourch . People like you are nothing but B.S. A massacre of the innocents is taking place in the heart of Africa as the world looks the other way.

            One man describes how his four-year-old son’s throat was slit, and how he saw a snake swallowing a baby. A woman explains that she is caring for a young girl because her mother went searching for medicine and was bludgeoned to death with Kalashnikov rifles. A young man tells how he was bound and thrown to the crocodiles, but managed to swim to safety.

            This is the world of horrors that the Central African Republic (CAR) has become. Thousands of people are dying at the hands of soldiers and militia gangs or from untreated diseases such as malaria. Boys and girls as young as eight are pressganged into fighting between Christians and Muslims. There are reports of beheadings and public execution-style killings. Villages are razed to the ground. This is a black on black genocide that is happening all around the world. Who do you think are doing all the murders in Chicago. Check out the stats. on black on white crime then white on black crime then black on black crime. But when it comes to people like you it all boils down to the white’s Not that they don’t share some of the responsibility. I’m a minority that’s having a very hard time. I made my bed and I’ll lie in it. Give me some of your hate filled facts. I’ll try and reply.

          • Nick

            “a hate for white people as a whole”? thats not racist….

          • Erik Becker

            Hey THAT wasn’t racist at all. Jackass.

          • James

            Says the racist “colored” person

          • Chris P Nugget

            Yes, every war in the history of this planet has been caused by white people. What is small minded, ignorant statement from a quintessential product of American public education. I hope you were being sarcastic. The repercussions of European imperialism don’t hold candle to what the savages around the rest of the world have done to each other and white people throughout time. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, open a world history book. To make a comment like that; It’s obvious you like to stereotype groups. By that logic I guess you believe black people comment all the crime in this country too??? What a idiot!!!

          • ProudWhiteMom

            so with that being said YOU are a racist against white people!!! you are no different then him and you should loose any home you have any bank accounts and anything that means something to you….just as you think he should. Give it up the black community is having a hissy because someone said something about them big deal show me one black person who has never said a bad word about a white person, you can’t. It is time to get over the black/white… north/south. The people who made your great granparents slaves and mammies are long dead and gone and you just can’t stop blaming whites. All I hear is no I am African-American, well if that is true and you want to be African go there and live but if you want to be a American then buck up and shut up and live like one not like every white person who is ever born owes you cause grammy was a mammy

          • Mark VanderLoop

            Apparently you never read anything about the aztecs. Do your research every race has done horrible horrible things. Aztecs not only held slaves but performed human sacifrices. Sick of getting blamed for dead great greats activities. Racism everywhere needs to go. Not trying to pick on aztec decentants either just an example take a history class

          • Equalrights

            Hmmm…. Sounds like someone here is just as racist as Sterling. Just the different race. Funny how there’s a double standard. Hate on white people isn’t viewed as bad as hate on black, hispanic, or minority.

          • Chris McCoy

            Thats a racist comment in itself

          • Patokev

            Hilarious. Travelling around the world is a lot easier the fairer the skin. By the way there is only one race, that is the human race. Did you graduate from high school?

          • Dan

            No less than Africans or Asians did to their own people back when they were in power. You really ought to crack open a few history books.

          • pepjrp

            Yea, but without white people, you would live in a dirt hut with a straw rug to sleep on and no electricity. No planes, no cars, no medical vaccines, virtually no sports, no computers, no phones and the list goes on and on. Without white people in WWII, the Germans would have been victorious with their superior military and exterminated all the non-white people. So you owe your current existence to white people again. No matter the race everyone is human and equally has the potential to be evil but white people have liberated the most people from dictators and tyrants on a global scale. Literally millions…with the help of a few non-whites. You just can’t get away from beholding to whites, but what can you do?

          • Ilovemydawg88

            OMG! You are an idiot and ridiculous.. You are the consummate victim! You have NO idea what racism is about and you are the problem Go take a class, read the news, and find the truth!! You are disgusting.. very..smfh!!

          • Daryn

            White people cause the most disruption and destruction? Really? Where are you pulling these figures from? Your ass?
            O-scumbag is currently the one causing the most disruption on the planet and black on black crime kills more blacks in just 6 months than the KKK has in their combined history. So do us all a favor and provide some sources for your claims because so far you’re just pullin them out of your asshole.

          • Malty17

            Wow. You haven’t studied much world history (or just studied a limited Euro-version).

          • Tara

            Hey soul touch..take your head out of your ass you ignorant idiot.

          • shea

            ” but white people cause the most trouble on a global scale.”

            Racist much?

          • Tony Hamrick

            You need to check your crime stats. Your comments sound pretty racist. You’re banned from the NBA for life!

          • Amanda Hardy

            You are incredibly racist. Your hate is bringing something ugly to this world. There are horrible people of every color. If you hate a color, you are an ignorant racist.

          • Iylima Batiste

            Observer you do know that Charles is married to a white woman right?

          • J L

            And yet he still said he “hates white people” it doesn’t matter who you’re married to, if Sterling is being banned for racism, then it should apply to all parties, not just the “white man” black hypocrisy at its finest.

          • Phlthy Rich

            White people dont know what racism is because theyve never experienced it. Most done even know the definition. Theyre pissed because now they fear they cant be secret about it cuz it may still come out. How can you compare anything said by anyone to the fact that he actually practiced descrimination. It doesnt matter if barkley did say he hates whitepeople. Hes nerev fucked ones life up because theyre white. Sterling has denied housig and jobs based solely on race. Thats the difference. And if you cant tell the difference youre probably white. And thats why i hate most white people. Because i am educated and not in denial of the real world…

          • Billie Jo

            If you were educated you would not refer to white people as they. Who are you around that you don’t see white people disgusted by this? Exactly! An educated person would have stated who. The fact you said “thats why i hate most white people” Explains it. get off the ban wagon & heal your own struggle.

          • Rob Zole

            Please tell me where you received your “education” so I know not to send my child to that school. Your spelling is atrocious.

          • fatfree

            That’s your argument? Obviously you understood his point otherwise you wouldn’t have responded. Next time, respond with something a little more substantial like he did, K?

          • DSharp

            Yep we can tell you are a racist…There are some decent black and white people out there, but idiots like you and Sterling make the rest of us look bad, not all of us are racist, like you. I don’t use the N word because I personally hate that word, just as I do when you all call us white people honky or whatever. Sterling has been at this for years and they are now just realizing how much of a idiot he is and should of been out of NBA along time ago, along with some others. You are a RACIST big time. I have friends of both colors and love them very much.

          • Ned Orton

            I agree with everything Kareem said, but I’d have to disagree with you Filthy Rich. I am white and I have experienced racism. To group such a large population of people under a blanket statement like that is ignorant.

          • Jer

            Agreed. Blacks and other minorities hate what such a minuscule fraction of whites represent, and as a result whites see experience a huge amount of racism. Broad generalizations such as those made by ignorant fools like “phlthy rich” make everything worse for everyone

          • bob the builder…

            what? are you being serious? stirling sounds retarded but to say that there is no racism directed at white people is equally stupid…

          • JustLee

            This is the biggest load of crap statement. You are in denial, living under a rock. You are a racist yourself. You should read what you wrote. Learn what racism actually is and then maybe you can talk intelligently about the subject.

          • guy taylor

            I bet that white guy in Detroit that was beaten to an inch of his life knows what it is

          • Eric Cunningham

            honestly…that was pretty racist

          • Michael Pease

            White people don’t know what racism is? You are a complete idiot, and a racist!

          • Eeeeee

            Not to condone what he is saying, but he probably meant “white people don’t know what it is to EXPERIENCE racism” rather then white people don’t know what racism is. Basically saying that for someone to experience racism you have to be a minority. However, I think we should be talking more about discrimination which can happen on both sides of the ethnic fence. Just my two cents for what they’re worth…

          • nO Name

            you sir are an idiot if you think white ppl don’t know what racism is i mean you black ppl in USA had few hard years only and that’s it and the black ppl think only they have been slaved and everyone hates them read the europe Ballkan history and you will learn what a reall true racism is !!

          • clownface

            You are far from educated.

          • Jer

            ” denied housing and jobs based solely on race”
            Ever hear of affirmative action?

          • J L

            So you assume that I’m white because I call my fellow “brothers” out? Get the F outta here. I’m pretty sure that us calling whites cracker this and cracker that and playing the knock out game with mostly whites isn’t the least bit racist in your book is it? You say you’re educated, yet you spout hate just like Sterling, you’re just as ignorant as he is “brother”.

          • Anonymous

            Please read all the way through…. The fact that you hate white people
            makes you just as racist and equal with the people you claim to hate,
            and just as arrogant as Sterling. Clearly you don’t understand the
            meaning behind what you’re saying, or what you think you’re saying. It
            seems you’re blind to the fact that if you hate someone else solely
            based on their skin color, yet preach about how you hate racism, you’re
            more racist than the people about whom you speak. The fact that you
            claim to be “educated” should mean that you’re above hatred and racism.
            You should keep reading your books; then maybe you’ll actually learn to
            love others for who they are and not judge them based on skin color.
            Once you let go of and move past you’re hatred for a “few” people who
            may have wronged you, and forgive their ignorance, you won’t sound so
            arrogant yourself, and you may even find that you actually enjoy others’
            company. Who knows, you might find that ‘white’ people, as you say, are
            just as interesting as black people, brown people, yellow people, and
            so forth. You should be better than that, and simply accept yourself,
            and others, in the world you live. It’s 2014,the hatred you feel towards
            ‘white’ people simply perpetuates the hatred around the world. You can
            be a part of the change, the movement. Once said by a very loving and
            wise ‘brown’ person (I’ll use your language for classifying people): “Be
            the change you wish to see in the world” (Gandi). It’s sad to hear that
            you’re so angry with a few people who may have wronged you, yet you
            judge an entire race based on the few. I’m pretty sure you would have
            learned the contrary in at least one of your classes or books, from
            which you claim to be educated. By now you’ve probably connected the
            dots and realized I am white. Please know that I am not racist, in fact I
            am dating a Chinese and Jamaican girl, who’s sister is married to a
            ‘black’ guy, actually from Trinidad, and my mom has dated a ‘black’ guy.
            I also have a job where I teach foreign based healthcare professionals
            about American culture, and our values. I speak very highly of everyone,
            not just white people. I, sir, am educated. And am very much infatuated
            with other cultures and races, because I understand the value in
            people, and not just white people, but all people as one race. I invite
            you to lift your heart above the hatred you feel towards a few, and
            learn to love the many. I promise your life, and the people in it, will
            only grow to something much more beautiful than it’s current status.
            Live today, love today; everyday.

          • eric1210

            And Sterling was doing a Hispanic woman. So?

          • TorchLuv

            I think his(Barkley) wife is caucasian if im correct.

          • fatfree

            Maybe he should have said, “this is why I hate SOME white people”. Why should anyone love a racists.

          • Kenny718

            When the hell did he say that? Are you sure?

          • You wish you knew

            WTH, how can he say such ignorance when he’s married to a white woman. GTFOOH

          • Live to serve!

            Stop fabricating facts you d!psh!7

          • Tiffany

            Did he say that? Lmao. But…but…but, he’s married to a white woman. That guy.

          • Tony Hamrick

            I think Sterling’s head coach is black and I believe most of his players are black. He has also received several NAACP awards. You can’t tell me you don’t see the hypocrisy here.

          • Brian Lewis

            Barkley is a racist piece of trash. He is no better than Sterling, and yes, there IS a double standard. Talk about a f’cking moron.

          • doc savage

            Barkley is married to a white woman you do know that right ? I have not heard him ever say he hates white people … Charles can be a fools sometime but he is no dummy.

          • Chris Carlen

            So in your view Sterling is not a racist because his girlfriend is of Mexican and Black descent???? ” Some of my best friends are…” RIGHT.

          • Jennifer Richards Hill

            ok Sterlings GF is 1/2 black so then what Sterling said doesn’t count either!! wow another dbl standard!

          • David Lee

            Thank you! My god these illogical people are really comparing a bigot who has engaged in discriminatory practices for four decades to bad ethnic based Jokes? Are these people seriously this stupid?

          • Chris Carlen

            So if someone tells ethnic based “jokes” is this the same as race based “jokes”?

          • JustLee

            Yes it is the same, there is no difference.

          • Thom Walker

            Yes, they are.

          • Jeff Doernbrack

            got to tell it like he says it is…he’s put his 2cents in and let be until anyone calls him on it…now back to the NFL and the “N” word…get real…

          • Yo mama!

            Yea let’s just sweep the Hispanic jokes under the rug. Get real^^^^ those are just as racist as Sterling’s comments. Just because no one jumped on the opportunity to cry and point fingers shouting “racism”.
            Check yourself or you are going to have major problems in life with that mentality.

          • Brian Carty

            Whitey got caught now y’all mad lmao stay mad white America

          • Rob Zole

            The NAACP had no problems taking “Whitey’s” donations and giving him awards AFTER he was sued for discrimination.

          • JustLee

            You are just as racist as Sterling.

          • Justin Wingate

            this just proves your ignorance.

          • concernedforhumanity

            Charles Barkley has been an asshole since he joined the league and that’s why the world loves to hate him. But, does Charles affect the actual welfare of the people he jokes about? Has Charles has been documented for the largest housing discrimination suit on record? If he has or does someone please go send him a mistress with a spy pen recorder to get him on tape too, lol

          • James Fredericks

            After the All-Star game in 1995 when Chuck Miketinac (a white reporter from San Antonio) asked Barkley about groupies in the NBA. “See, that’s why I hate white people,” Barkley said in an aside to a friend after a reporter had asked a question about NBA groupies that Barkley considered “another media misconception.” It doesn’t get any more clear than that. I don’t give a damn if he’s married to a white woman. I didn’t make it up. He said it. Read for yourself this article from 1995…

            http://articles.philly.com/1995-02-14/sports/25705474_1_question-about-nba-groupies-barkley-talks-nike

          • Brian Carty

            20 years ago bruh????? 1 incident is that all cmon dude show me more than one quote compared to the thousands from sterling I dare you cmon do the research

          • susan

            once many years ago was enough for people to shun and try to ruin Paula Deen!!

          • concernedforhumanity

            And you do know a white woman brought up those allegations right?

          • eric1210

            Oh please You can’t be that naive. It’s not even about what he says in public. Do you REALLY think Charles Barkley doesn’t make racist comments in the privacy of his own home???? Seriously?

          • gschill

            Brian, there is never just one incident. Charles has made these types of comments and references his entire career. Spitting on kids in the stands, making fun of women in San Antonio and other parts of the world. Time does not take away someone’s core values.

          • concernedforhumanity

            And how many white people has Charles been publicly photographed with since? Lol

          • Kdubluv

            It seems that you’re hoping that nobody actually reads the article. In the article it explains that Barkley said it to a white reporter who was his friend…and the general sentiment in the article is that Barkley was joking. He is known for trying to be funny, and this was one of those attempts. The fact that his wife is white pretty much diffuses your sorry argument. Racists don’t marry the race they hate, James. How many klans men do you see with black wives?

          • Jo Cobb

            For those blowing off the fat women jokes by Barkley – he also likened
            Hispanics to cockroaches, saying they are like cockroaches, you cannot
            get away from them. Yes – there IS a double standard! Had Sterling
            made his comments about Hispanics, Asians or Native Americans, there
            would have been no huge uproar. Had Sterling made misogynist comments towards women, there would have been no huge uproar. Women as a gender have been treated far worse than any specific race for centuries, a practice that continues today. The only reason for all the outrage is solely because it was white on black. That is hypocrisy at it’s lowest. What the man said was disgusting, there’s no doubt about that, and he certainly has NOT kept his racism hidden for years, but if everyone wants “equality,” punishment cannot be limited to only white on
            black comments.

          • Jennifer Richards Hill

            Jo Cobb amen to that!!!! saying things about fat woman, hispanics is just as racist–

          • eric1210

            Let’s hold your viewpoint to every black athlete (and rapper for that matter). Any time one of them makes a “cracker” or “honky” statement in private – let’s take away their entire business. Oh wait, they already make these claims in public. Where is the outrage?

            I have no physical proof but you can almost be certain that every athlete, including LeBron James, has made a racist comment in private – whether joking or not, it does not matter. If it’s on a tape that’s it, right? By your logic, we should kick LeBron out of the NBA (or any athlete) that makes ANY racist comment in the private of his own home (unknowingly as well). We should start with Larry Johnson. See what he had to say about the “all black league.”

          • Kenneth Masters

            When those rappers start saying they dont want whites to buy their music, come to their shows, or thst they dont want to be associated with whites PERIOD. we will until then the concept you are trying to apply to a standard doestlnt match.

            nice try though

          • xnyer

            So what Barkley said was ok because he has a sense of Humor, And is the show that Shaq is on going to do anything to him due to the comments he made about the young man physical conditions ……

          • gschill

            Yomi, he hasn’t hidden racism, he has been a racist all along. So has Charles Barkley. There is double standard. If we are going to fight racism, then fight it across all races and creeds. What this man said was inappropriate, however if we stop lending a voice, money and awards to their behavior then it stops being an issue, he will simply take his antiquated views and die somewhere alone.

          • Kennidi Ridgell

            Discrimination is discrimination. You can’t tell me that these things are not similiar. They can both cause the same amount of pain.

          • ChuChu

            Now Can Yomi Get a AMEN!!!!! #Claps

          • Todd S

            Coming straight out and saying you hate white people sounds pretty racist to me.

          • bleh

            you should google charles barkley and i hate white people comment

          • David Sweidel

            Donald Sterlings racism was not hidden. He had a massive fine for discrimination against Blacks in his slumlord housing, yet the NAACP ignored it because he was giving huge grants to them. Funny what a little money can do. What a bunch of Hypocrits in the NAACP and the worst is Al Sharpton.

            So you are right about one thing Yomi, make sense before you post.

          • Larry

            Seeing that I know Charles and went to school with him. I know for a fact he is a racist.

          • Corbett Peluso

            It’s only racist if you’re white. Find me one media blown instance like this of racism against a white person. It happens but no one cares nor should they. If you don’t like racist ppl don’t associate with them. It’s their right to be small minded just as its your right no not have anything to do with them. You can call me all the white racist names there are for any of the salaries of the Clippers players. At the end of the day Sterling’s opinion means nothing as long as he gets me my pay check on time.

          • Bill

            The difference is Barkley makes all his borderline racists comments on national tv, Sterling made his in his own home that no one would have never heard had this skank golddigger not been looking for her 15 minutes of fame.

          • huh?

            Did you just say Charles is not a racist???

          • Roy Chastain

            All just as insulting to the Latino is the point.

          • San Antonian

            Hey douchebag… there really was no need for name calling. See thats the problem with racism. YOU dont consider it racist but I do. So because it wasn’t that degrading or that hurtful its no big deal. So really if anyone is a MORON here its you. Because regardless of what specific words were/are used, a racist remark is a racist remark period! What’s that saying “it is what it is!” Just cause Barkley married a white woman, it doesnt mean crap! Sterling was poking that woman “V” and look at what he said. That my friend is real for you. Have a nice day!

          • TONYinPHX

            Yea but I bet if a white person made similar jokes about a black person all hell would break loose…You ever notice how some black comedians can easily make fun of White, Hispanics and Asians but if one guy jokes about black people “oh he’s racist…lets put him on blast”…it IS a double standard when it comes to talking about race…You dont see Al Sharpton or the NCAAP telling those black comedians to chill.out on thier White/Hispanic/Asian jokes do you?

          • Jordan Johnson

            running a plantation……….that pays his slaves MILLIONS……great analogy.

          • tim richards

            He wasn’t hiding it, it’s been common knowledge for years, yet guys still lined up to work for him.

          • SBRules

            Hispanic fat women jokes sure sounds racist to me!

          • Mark Milligan

            Of course Sir Charles can’t be racist. We all know only white folk can be racists

          • Daryn

            Yomi……why wasn’t Sterling banned long ago as in when he was fined 3 million for refusing to rent to blacks? The NAACP knew of it and rather than going after him, they chose to accept multiple grants worth millions of dollars from him and were about to give him multiple “humanitarian” awards on May 15th along with Al “Not So” Sharpton also giving him an award. Funny how that all changed isn’t it but yet Larry Johnson can call for an all black league and not have anyone say a thing about it. Just a it of a double standard don’t you think?

          • Kathy McGlaughlin

            Hidden? If you read this article or others, you’d know that it Sterling, if he was making an attempt to hide it, apparently didn’t do a very good job of it. If it was “hidden,” because you should be asking just who it was that was doing the “hiding.” Me thinks perhaps the one who is screaming the loudest. The NBA.

          • Rob

            Black people are more racist than everyone.. Except the Asians!

          • DJ T

            Yomi…He’s never hidden it…..he’s always been that way and yet the NAACP has given him awards.

          • kerry agkody

            @ Yomi , the moron is you for excepting one racism , but not the other.. No matter if it’s cutting down Mexicans , or blacks , or gays , or any other types of people , it’s still racism.. Or to except the fact that as long as these people’s pockets are being filled with his money , they have no problem, but when it’s out in the open and you may be caught , oh now he’s a no good.. Al Sharpton is the most raciest person in public eye , but yet he was ready to celebrate with Sterling in his award ceremony , because he was getting money for it.. THAT”S racist and sick.!!

          • Hope is not a battle plan

            So to clarify, you’re saying Barkley is NOT a racist?

          • Ronnie Armstead

            DONT COMPARE TO WHAT STERLING SAID..DARN..

          • Robert Felton

            Charles Barkley is guilty.

            Of being an idiot!

          • hearmetalking

            Yomi is full of tunnel vision. There are 100 times more racist in the black race than the white.// Look at these certified hate mongers and racist. Sharpton,Jesse Jackson, Obama, Holder,Oprah and the list goes on for days.

        • Ari Benet

          Difference between a joke and being serious

        • jojac10

          We dont have rights. Why do we allow the miss Black USA. Why do we allow 3rd generation welfare. Why do we allow BET TV. We dont have rights, thats why. Its called reverse discrimination and you dont have rights.

          • concernedforhumanity

            If you’ve ever been to the Miss Black USA site, the entire point of the pageant is to help promote “self esteem” in African American girls, not racial superiority as your reply may suggest. BET hasn’t been black owned for almost 10+ years now, which is owned by VIACOM now. Also the reason again for its creation was to dedicate programming that spoke to an audience that was not being address in ways it saw fit for that demographic. Most channels during the emergence of BET catered to a mostly Caucasian demographic. The principle behind channels such as ESPN, The History Channel, Comedy Central, etc, they cater specifically to a particular demographic. So the argument of “what if we had “WET (white entertainment television) is invalid because there was no need to since major cable outlets already catered largely to that demographic.

          • ben shcroder

            listen idc if theres a black pink or purple miss USA all im saying is that if there was a White Miss USA that would just not go right and it would be called racist. Again, idc i really dont mind a black miss usa at all just stating the facts.

          • concernedforhumanity

            But there is that, in the 60+ years that the Miss USA Pageant has been around, there have only been 6 winners of African American decent. Only 87 have actually made to the completion in that time, whether by chance or by choice, you can under stand the want to have a pageant directed towards a particular ethnicity of people if the rest of a particular country refuses to recognize or accept them.if we were all truly equal, and treated and believed to be equal and understood in each others eyes, there would be no need for Miss Black USA, BET, NAACP’s, or United Negro College Funds…

          • Guy

            And what percentage of girls that enter pageants are black? Do you think THAT might be the reason there are so few winners? Or are you thinking that no matter how many girls enter a pageant, there should be some sort of affirmative action going on? When a black contestant enters most pageants these days, they are scored just the same as every other contestant… Solely on their presentation. To imply that there is always some discrimination going on is absurd and totally ignorant. Maybe that particular black girl was or wasn’t the right girl for the job. And ten times as many white girls didn’t make it either.

          • concernedforhumanity

            No I don’t think there should be some sort of affirmative action for that, and neither did they, hence the creation of Miss Black USA or other events similar. For a generation of young women who were taught and felt that their standard of beauty was substandard or not good enough for the culture at the time. A chance to celebrate their beauty just many other ethnicities were doing. It just didn’t have the privilege of having a more politically correct name. Unless you’ve been involved in the fashion or pageant industry, you probably would know or understand the amount of superficiality that goes into them and yes has played a part in them once upon a time, and thats undeniably accurate through the course of history and many of these girls experience. And yes most likely far more white girls have been turned away from those pageants, undoubtedly more than black girls, but the white girls still outnumbered greatly any other ethnicity on the stage. Andd this is not a problem, it just reflected the makeup of the country at they time, but can you understand the affect that might play on a young black girls mind seeing that over and over and over….

          • Bulkster

            Very well said. And I applaud your diplomatic tone. I had prepared a response to jojac10, but it was a little more extreme. I think you taught him and I both something. Props to you my friend.

          • jojac10

            Ok well put…I never knew.

          • gschill

            The point is still a valid point. If the white community started any magazine, radio station, television station or pageant that was whites only there would be a severe backlash. If we are going to live and hold everyone to a racist free society then we need to knock down every reverence of division in our country. BET, NAACP, Miss Black USA all had their places, just like the Unions, but now we need to start looking at getting rid of all of the racist divide if we are to move forward.

          • concernedforhumanity

            But it’s not racist division if that community still remains undeserved and and i’ll equipped. Those programs weren’t placed there to promote racial superiority over another, they were put in place to balance the scales, and they still aren’t balanced. We still aren’t past understanding each others cultures instead of just tolerance. We can sit here and act like because we have a black president that everything is better, that everyone is no longer prejudice, etc, but it only showed that we have so much further to go if we want to close the gap of racial division. Its not BET’s fault, or the NAACP’s or Miss Black USA’s fault for the prejudice and bigotry that exist in this country, do you even watch or participate in any of that stuff? Does it dominate your airwaves or advertisements? Is it even on your radar aside for talking points on blogs and web articles? It starts and ends with us…

          • Eeeeee

            I believe we are talking about systemic white privilege (or whatever the current term for this is). Basically, it doesn’t make sense for white people that there needs to be this separate representation for other minority groups because the system was setup (way back in the day) by white people FOR white people.

          • Justin Wingate

            im still trying to understand blackpeoplemeet.com… my exgirlfriend is black.. am i not allowed to use the site? why isn’t it just peoplemeet.com? arent we past the race issue?i guess not..iu can bet your ass if it was whitepeoplemeet.com someone would yell something.

          • Sam

            Please. Try something better than this delusional “reverse discrimination.”

        • Jacquelyn Woods

          When Charles Barkley gets away with housing discrimination (twice), employment discrimination, AND makes publicly racist, sexist comments, then you can talk to me about double standards. Until then, please shut up!

        • Ran Dome

          Here’s the nuts and bolts of the situation. There are 9+ billion people on this earth. Either we can elicit a sincere and honest vow from all of them to never in their thousands of days on the planet say anything that might come off as hurtful to each and every other of the 9+billion, or we can realize that people do and say stupid things and not fly off the handle weeping every time they do.

        • Richard Becerra

          Barkley says what he says, for the same reasons Mark Cuban and Phil Jackson continue to poke at San Antonio and their fan base – because it WORKS. Because time and again, San Antonio fans react the EXACT SAME WAY.

          Speaking as a Spurs fan – I have never seen a fan base who has enjoyed so much success (20 Division titles, 5 Conference titles, 4 NBA Championships, 17 consecutive winning seasons including 24 of the last 25) that is so incredibly SENSITIVE to each and every comment made toward their team, its players and yes, even the city.

          As a resident of San Antonio, it has become beyond predictable to see not only one of the 3 NBA personalities I mentioned make some sort of comment about San Antonio – but for the city, its fans, the local news channels and even the MAYOR to react in an equally predictable fashion. Each and every year, I ask myself ‘Will THIS be the year that San Antonio will finally just ignore this stuff and realize these folks pull our collective chain, because we ALWAYS fall for it?’

          I stopped caring about how the national media percieves San Antonio or its NBA team long ago. Why? Because all I have to do is walk into our arena and look at those four trophys, or look up in the rafters at four championship banners.There are only 3 other NBA teams that have enjoyed more success than our Spurs and guess what? None of them are relevant right now.

          Charles Barkley is a good natured clown, who pokes fun at himself as much as he does anyone else. If you watch him week to week, he can barely contain his own laughter, because he realizes the things he says are so ridiculous.

          To take any kind of humorous jab from Barkley and compare it to vile, hateful, racisit crap like we have heard from Sterling is, for lack of a better word, simply absurd.

        • Marc

          I certainly do not believe you are equating Barkley’s comments to those of “Sir” Sterlings? (Whatever you have been drinking/smoking…please.
          PUT IT DOWN IN A HURRY…AND BOUNCE BACK TO REALITY!!!!)

        • Nick Bradford

          Probably because the world doesn’t care about Hispanic’s.

        • Nick

          In all fairness to Chuck, Texas as a whole pretty much sucks

        • George Grothusen

          In my opinion it comes down to intention as well as the actual words. Sterling wasn’t joking about any of the things he said. He has deep seeded racist opinions and he’s in a position of great power to use that racism for his own agendas.

          To compare that to Charles Barkley poking fun at San Antonio and the ‘big ol’ women’ as he says is ludicrous. Barkley says a lot of stupid stuff but it isn’t out of hatred. Even if you believe it is in poor taste, it’s a ridiculous comparison.

        • papapeach

          Barkley is the man, fat hispanic women are funny, and san antonio sucks.. easy enough

      • Kenneth Masters

        You people crack me up that want to bring up EVERY single offensive thing that someone else does when a bigot gets outed. Says more about you – then you think

        • superluminal89 .

          So true. Rather than deal with the issues, these people want to divert the topic and talk about what riles them up. Usually some rant about Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton. White people pay more attention to those two than blacks.

          • Sam Cammarata

            Well that’s bc they’re niggers

          • Brian Carter

            Well we know that Sam learned a new word today during “new word time”. lmao Tell us Sam. Did mommy ever tell you who your real daddy was or is she still waiting on that Maury phone call?

          • jojac10

            Brian your one funny dude, I get my best laughs on these blogs. Ha Ha!

          • Brian Carter

            Man it’s all in a days work. If I can’t let off steam on Sam’s mom, might as well do it on his comments. See what I just did there?

          • jojac10

            Brian I havent laughed that hard in awhile! It is good to let off steam!

          • Sam Cammarata

            I did learn that word in new word time. And now that I’ve studied the definition, I can tell you that your attempt at a comeback was very nigger-like. Meaning not very clever

          • Brian Carter

            I’m not the best at math lil sammy, but I’m thinking the 49 under my previous comment means that 48 people + myself 1 = 49 people that would disagree with ya lil buddy. Now do us all a favor and take a quick nap while we all take turns playing hide the salami in your mommy. Thanks and I’ll CUM AGAIN!

          • superluminal89 .

            At least you’re an honest asshole.

          • jojac10

            Sam your a trip!

          • http://www.timnwachukwu.com Timothy Nwachukwu

            Bro, not cool.

          • Drew

            At Sam your a disgrace to society climb back under your sheet asshole.

        • Phillip Young

          Hey, people care about equality.

        • Zack Taylor

          What cracks me up is when someone is up in arms over racism when it occurs in one direction and not any other direction. Then it’s just ‘poor taste’ or ‘edgy humor’. Double standards, racism, and hypocrisy are all bad traits for anyone to exhibit. Bottom line is that anyone white or black that plays into the old ‘good guy’ vs ‘bad guy’ nonsense while not seeing who perpetrates it and why is a blind lemming. This is why we lost our country to 500 silver spooned lawyers that learned fiction history in their Ivy League schools. More diversionary nonsense that causes divisiveness amongst people who should be on the same side. Personally, I couldn’t care less about the ramblings of a senile old fool, and think the worst thing that could happen to him is to become irrelevant.

          • Kenneth Masters

            Yeah there are a ton of minorities out there in prestigious positions being racist, spouting divisive comments, and being ignored by the world at large. /sarcasm

          • Zack Taylor

            So name some other examples of white guys in a prestigious positions that are exhibiting this behavior. Last I checked not every white guy has a prestigious position. More regurgitated nonsense to excuse poor behavior. Probably a fan of Spike Lee, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton as well. I guess you believe there are ‘minority’ owned businesses that don’t partake in profiling. I’m sure there is all sorts of cultural diversity in these types of companies. /sarcasm.

          • Kenneth Masters

            The fact that you mentioned al sharpton, jesse jackson, amd spike lee tells me all I need to know about why you are so butt hurt and crying about feigned hypocracy online.

            next time you want to go for comedy mixed with pseudo-intellectualism? Try and get some black figures that are actually relevant outside of the tired old irrelvant chaps you people like to throw out there.

            further more like I said, everytime a bigot gets outed you people want to scream about minority hypocracy.Comprehend that for a second. /not sarcasm

          • Kenneth Masters

            Besides donald sterling, paula deen, marge schott, the wacko texas rancher,and mitt romney? Your turn

          • Zack Taylor

            So Paula Dean(can’t even spell her name right). How did she hold an entire race of people down by making a racial slur 30 years ago? 2 of the 4 you mentioned where blackballed from their respective games. One is a nameless example, and the other I would love to hear the quote or situation in which Mitt Romney exhibited racism. Sounds to me you have 0 credibility, believe in double standards, and are a straight up hypocrite who’s opinion shouldn’t carry any weight with anyone who has the misfortune of speaking to you in life. You are the exact kind of guy I was talking about that waters down terms like racism and causes divisive behavior instead of bridging a gap. Truth be told you sould like a racist bastard that is no better than any of the names either of us has cited. Good job at sucking as a human being.

          • Kenneth Masters

            You’re an idiot. It’s not my fault you don’t understand simple context of reading and comprehension and context. So because of that you ask for examples. I give you clear examples and you’re still butt hurt?

            There is no burden for me to prove anything to you. You’re online soap boxing like you’re the second coming of a civil rights crusader or something. It’s not my fault you don’t know CLIVE BUNDY as the Texas rancher who made the racist comments. As it was a pretty big news story. I didn’t realize I wasn’t talking to someone who needed every detail except for the syllables in the words filled in for them.

            You responded to my post with insults and baseless and useless banter. Instead of giving me examples, you pulled the old Al Sharpton, Spike Lee, Jesse Jackson card. I bet your ignorant ass couldn’t even name any other black figures outside of them. Maybe in another week when you respond to this comment and you have time to Google and talk it over with your brain trust?

            No one person here (me) said anything about it being a one way street. But simply pointed out facts. There are not a lot of minorities in PRESTIGIOUS POSITIONS making comments like Sterling that are being ignored. Instead of the rhetoric? Give me some examples and there context that prove me wrong, shouldn’t be hard for you.

            You want to speak about misfortune? I feel sorry for the people that have to listen to your social study 101 – I just learned about race relation rhetoric – at a semester in college, nonsense.

            First off if you could read and comprehend, I said racist and DIVISIVE. Meaning not just attributed to race. And then followed that up with it BEING IGNORED. I will wait for you to provide me some names and or links – since you like getting your google fact check on. T

            he fact that you don’t think that Mitt Romney has made ANY divisive or borderline racist comments and typed up that long winded dissertation? Proves that you sir are ignorant. His 47% comments? ‘Self-deportation’? And his whole damn campaign was racially charged?! I realize in candy land where you seem to exist and they seem to like to talk nonsense that you may not have seen it that way. But it was.

            And the Paula Dean stuff? How did she hold the people down? Did you read about the practices that took places over that span of time in her restaurant chains? Are you seriously retarded? Or are you so busy soap boxing that bullshit that you’ve convinced yourself that the bullshit is ok? I guess making blacks work back house positions, use separate bathrooms, and enter through the back entrance is ok in your eyes and not holding said people down. Moron.

            You sound like more of the people ‘you were talking about than me’. You’re not as smart or racially/civilly in tune as you think you are. If anything you’re brilliantly ignorant.

          • Zack Taylor

            Your assessment of what’s ignorant means nothing. You have no credibility. As evidenced by your lengthy reply to someone you deem ignorant. Apparently, I struck a nerve. And the only reason you say the burden of proof isn’t on you is due to you pulling things out of your ass hoping they will stick. Again, deceptive POSs like you are why this country is in the mess it’s in. I don’t support racism from the rich white billionaires, much like I don’t support lazy opportunists trying to cash in on those billioniaires racism for their own agendas. I’m guessing you’re an unemployed bum that spends all day arguing on the internet. Get a job you bum.

          • Kenneth Masters

            Hahahaha spoken like a true internet loser! Troll harder next time douche bag!

          • Kenneth Masters

            You don’t have any credibility or any legs to stand on. You’re typing out a bunch of ignorant nonsense and playing the high and mighty smart on the internet card. But have yet to back anything you are saying up with anything substantial. I’ve laid it out for you explicitly.
            Not because you hit a nerve. But because I’m hoping to give your dumb ass an education.
            Sorry loser, you sound like the lazy opportuniist; who is projecting. And you probably have collected more welfare in your lifetime than me.
            But I’m an adult I don’t need to throw lame theoritical insults out at someone I never met to get my keyboard tough guy on.
            You’re probably a real riot at recess when you’re not on the computer!

          • Kenneth Masters

            *Yawn* Wow you really GOT ME with that comment. I bet you’ve probably collected more welfare in your life than I have. Or aren’t old enough to hold a legal job. Keep trolling though! Hopefully you don’t get in trouble while you’re in the library at recess.

          • Zack Taylor

            Lol. Classic sign of a defeated poster debating a topic. Deflect and divert to something that has nothing to do with the topic. This clown exposed you for the simpleton that you are. I get why you are mad though, it’s hard to have to swallow the truth about yourself and your biased opinions. I would suggest challenging yourself to be a better person and embrace the human race instead of your apparent race of choice.

            By the way, it’s funny how the Paula Dean stuff magically came out after her admission of using a word 30 years ago. Who digs up this stuff? How credible is it? Or is it another case of someone piling on after the fact and making a make believe story the truth. Kind of like the Romney comment. You cited one example and then used the lazy man’s approach (probably your specialty) in making a blanket statement about his campaign being ‘Racially charged’.

            And I fail to see ‘racism’ as the proper term when his self deportation comment was referencing illegal aliens who shouldn’t be here in the first place. There are laws in place to become a citizen. Expecting people from foreign lands to abide by those laws doesn’t make one a racist, but a constitutionalist. Something that doesn’t even apply to a person who has already broke a law crossing into this country.

            Truth is, I read fine. And I could school you on here, in person, or any other avenue in life and you couldn’t do a damn thing about it. Been fun educating your dumbarse. But I grow weary of dealing with a simpleton mush head much like your self. It saddens me that we as a society are breathing mouth breathers like you that will sink this country faster than the Titanic if you get your way. Later dipshit.

          • Kenneth Masters

            You debate WWE online.
            You have no credibility to speak about adult matters.
            You should stick to that instead of typing long winded essays, that I’m not reading.

          • Kenneth Masters

            Again when a supposed grown man has a history of spending as much time as you do debating WWE and tryping up essays online trying to win a forum argument?

            Its hard to take them seriously.

            read that slowly a couple more times. Post another novel, get the last word, whatever.

            you’ll still be a clown who has said a whole bunch of Nonsense.

            maybe if you scream louder or insert ‘your mom jokes’ you can be taken seriously?

        • ben shcroder

          not really i mean are you surprised that an old white guy is racist? seriously? it sucks but that was the norm in the 50s. its not anymore, i grew up learning how to NOT hate others. We bring up other people because i am sick to god of hearing about how racist I am or how that i think im better than other people. i never have those thoughts, and am sick to god of hearing al sharpton or whoever bitch about how white people are the devil and blah blah blah its 2014 im sorry but black people are basically looked at the same as anyone else. maybe not to donald sterling, but to the NEW generation growing up nobody cares what race you are.

          • Kenneth Masters

            First off the al sharpton jesse jackson comments are nonsense. Please tell me where their power lies in 2014 with the black community? Outside of media sound bytes and rhetoric? lPease show me an effective move or situation that either of those two have spearheaded that was not some form of glazed over pr?

            You people get online and thats all you got. Its jesse this al sharpton that. Lile a previous poster said, y’all pay more attention to what they are doing than black people. When a bigot gets outted thats all you hear. You want to talk about equality and it being 2014 and all that modern pseudo kumbaya bullshit? Then start by not bringing up out dated irrelevant black figures that literally almost no one in the black community takes as serious as you seem to.

            Again says more about you. Then the feigned hypocracy you are trying to rage against.

      • Francisco Jimenez

        Keep crying and asking for the illusory double standard that only exists in the mind of those who agree with Donald Sterling or play victim…The “double standard” you all see does not exist in American society today. Not when there is a great difference in wealth and power and history between Donald Sterling and you and me…Also private racism leads to public racism (Jim crow, Sterlingesque largest housing discrimination in human history etc.etc.)

        • Wolfy Ghalkhani

          There is only one form of racism that the left cares about and thats white racism. my take on this is – who cares what sterling thinks. i encountered black racism for years. did I care what they thought about me? hell no. As long as racists are not a physical threat to me and my own, I don’t care what they say.

          • jojac10

            Well said!

          • Francisco Jimenez

            Those persons you met may have been racist, I wasn’t there. Sorry you experienced what you thought or knew was racism. But I’m pretty sure that the “Black racism” you experienced did not affect thousands of people (including yourself) through housing discrimination and lead to the largest million dollar settlement of housing discrimination in history.

        • Alan

          You are blind and not very bright. There is a major double standard. I have friends that are black that are very offended by the “N-word” no matter who says it. But; some blacks, including athletes, singers and movie stars through that word around like they are getting paid to say it. It’s somehow ok for them to use this offensive language because they are black. No consideration to the other blacks that are offended. I worked in a Grocery Store in a predominately black area, I was called everything from a “Blue Eyed Devil” to “A Whit Bitch” and much worse things. When talking to a supervisor, I was told. ” Well, it ok. Just don’t worry about it. What crime did this basket ball owner commit. Prejudice comes in all colors. Jackie Chan used the N-word in his movies, nothing said. It’s only an issue when a white person says it. Why don’t we ALL stop saying this crap.

          • chimaican chimaican

            Are you talking about the Jackie Chan movie “Rush Hour”? When the N-word was used it was used in the film as a double-standard joke. The foreigner Asian character (Lee) walked into a Black pool bar in L.A. and after overhearing a Black patron call the Black bartender the N-word and saw that they acted like it was a word of endearment he went ahead (unknowingly) and called the bartender the same thing only to get himself into a major bar fight because at that point the N-word was no longer a friendly word but a racist word (because the Lee character was not a fellow Black). That being said, yes, the N-word is racist but in the context of the movie, it was a double-standard joke.

      • Melvin Hagerman

        How? Shaq–and Barkley (see below)–don’t work for the NBA; but someone like Jay-Z wearing some pendant with possible racial overtones IS a part-owner so the “rules” should apply to him…..?

        • bheals14 .

          jay-z is NOT a part-owner, sold his shares to start roc nation sports agency, can’t be an owner and agent, conflict of interest

        • Layton Harman

          Shaq is a part owner of the Sacramento Kings

        • jsjellybean26

          Jay-z hasn’t been a part owner of the nets for two years….

      • David Lee

        Are you seriously comparing jokes to an owner’s actions both in his real estate businesses and his basketball business where he exercised his power and authority to discriminate against people of color. You realize that his words were a directive to his mistress to “not being black people” to his games. I’m sure you can see the difference?

      • princesspr

        Shaq was WRONG and will be dealt with accordingly. However, let’s stay on topic; one awful situation at a time.

      • DariusBeck

        I agree with this but no one had any clue who that kid was until a few days ago. No one knew he had any type of condition. I’m sure Shaq wouldn’t have done that if he had known the kid’s situation.

      • Guest

        You can’t fire someone after they’re retired. It doesn’t work that way.

      • Hadey

        Yeah, I saw that, but Shaq is a despicable human being. Just look up his investment in New Brunswick with Chris Christie’s backing. Google it.

      • Layton Harman

        Happy to announce that Shaquille O’ Neal has apologized for his actions! http://kcsportsninja.com/shaq-owns-up-to-his-mistake-apologizes-to-jahmel-binion-for-mocking-physical-condition/

      • Mayor_Vaughan2012

        i guess you missed when they taught critical thinking in high school. Most of your fellow unintelligent posters here missed too. dont feel bad. Yes, comparing shaq to donald sterling, a billionaire owner and slumlord who kept blacks out of his apartments, is an excellent way to make your argument.

      • Darnie Kris Glover

        You do realize that Shaq is not in the NBA, right?

      • papapeach

        You do know Kareem and Shaq are two different people, this comment almost seems racist in itself from stupidity. Also Silver is just the commisioner and shaq doesnt play anymore… so no

      • E.F. Coleman

        Shaq can’t mock anyone with his mush mouth and stunted intelligence. Plus he is NOT actively involved in NBA.

      • E.F. Coleman

        Mumbling shaq cannot make fun of anyone’s physical condition. And he and Barkley are not active in the NBA, they can’t do anything to them. And anyone who listens or quotes Barkley is in big trouble already.

    • Elena Ferrante

      DId you read the article??? Sterling has done far worse and the collectively “outraged” turned the other way.

      • Frank Donahue

        They turned the other way so much that he was sued, found guilty, and fined millions for his discriminatory landlord tactics. There was plenty of outrage evident during the period of time of his trial. They turned the other way so much that he was sued by former manager Elgin Baylor for discrimination. Did you ever hear of the “straw” and the camel’s back? This was the straw. You have an objection to people responding to outrageous comments with outrage? You have zero grounds for complaining about the current outrage, so typically try to change the discourse and complain about the complainers, because in your mind they didn’t complain soon enough? Lets find the offended guilty to deflect the spotlight elsewhere?

        • Frank Donahue

          And here’s a writer “turning the other way” in 2012. “That Clippers owner Donald Sterling is a racist, cheap, and all-round rotten pile of puke is not newsworthy. But this latest line item on Sterling’s ledger of awfulness certainly is: An LA jury has ordered Sterling to pay $17.3 million to actress Robyn Cohen, who had sued him because she lost most of her possessions in a fire at a West Hollywood apartment building Sterling owns.”

          • Elena Ferrante

            and, the NAACP given him multiple awards???

          • Memphomaniac

            NAACP??? That joke unto itself. A money grab political machine, riding on the back of racial division in this country. They have a vested interest in keeping racism …alive!

          • msellvee

            I agree 100%.

          • Frank Donahue

            So they deserve major criticism. If you look around, you will see that that is beginning, with good reason. What’s your point? Kareem is dead on, that racism needs to be attacked each time it appears. Does the fact that it wasn’t criticized earlier constitute a reason for ignoring it now? Its a GOOD thing that there’s national outrage about this. It didn’t happen in an apartment building in LA, it happened on a national and international stage, tainting a sport that is loved and followed by millions. Thats the way news works – it seeks the story, and the stories behind the stories. In this case there’s an issue that has caught the attention of millions.

          • Frank Donahue

            Another writer in 2012 “turning the other way.” “This is not the first time Sterling has run into legal troubles over his properties. In late 2005, the Clippers owner paid $5 million to settle claims that he drove blacks and Latinos out of his Koreatown apartments.
            In 2009, Sterling settled with the Justice Department for more than $2.7 million in a housing-discrimination case related to apartments in the same neighborhood.
            The Los Angeles Times reported that Sterling had said: “Black tenants smell and attract vermin.”
            The class seeks exemplary and punitive damages for breach of the warranty of habitability, tortious breach of warranty, violation of the Business and Professions Code, and unjust enrichment. It is represented by Peter Levine.”

          • SUnsan

            We get it,.. You know how to google.

          • Jake Kent

            I don’t think you understand the audience he is speaking of when he says “turning the other way.” He’s talking to you, me, and everyone else on this blog. You can’t truthfully say that you knew all of this about Sterling and his settlements before googling away; therefore, you turned the other way during his prior allegations and settlements. Maybe you just have an agenda of trying to find angles to attack whenever you read something.

          • Frank Donahue

            Completely understand it. I’ve read his original article, have you? He’s making a point that there’s a lot of fuss over something that’s not really a surprise, that perhaps should have been addressed earlier. Did Kareem address it earlier? That I don’t know, but he doesn’t mention it if he did. I did what everyone did back then, I read the LA Times (I live out here) I was happy he got thrashed in court, and I was done. Yes, I can say I knew about it,was disgusted about it then. Kareem’s one point is tat this kind of attention needs to occur al the time. He is missing the point that things only get attention, that get attention. The landlord situation didn’t attract much attention, compared to this. He also makes a good point about the privacy issue. I’m glad the recording got out, but it does suck that she obviously taped him for a reason. But he chose her company, so let the buyer beware. No I don’t have an agenda, I actually just came here to read Kareem’s take on things. But then I found the “take” to have been slanted a bit to the author’s purpose. Here’s the unedited, un- “interpreted” text of the article.http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/

          • Jake Kent

            Well in that case, I guess it’s just that you didn’t have the appropriate tone and diction to what you were trying to communicate in your first post. Read your first post and compare it to your response to my comment. Compare and contrast.

            I’m not a fan of Sterling, but I don’t think that hoodlum girl should have read a script and recorded the whole thing for her own personal agenda of possibly gaining unwarranted fame and a reality TV show. If Bristol Palin counts as a contestant for Dancing with the Stars, than this girl will be a judge on American Idol

          • Frank Donahue

            My tone was directed at the post I responded to. There may be a difference, I really don’t want to get into a line by line literary critique. If my tone offended you I apologize. I’d rather be judged by my content than tone, as it’s easy to misread tone in written responses. I don’t usually post anything, because I so often run into pure idiots when I do. Way too frustrating. I agree the girl is clearly not a contender for Woman of the Year. And you’re unfortunately correct, in this day of “reality” fever, she will probably land numerous opportunities for her fifteen minutes.

          • jaw444

            i think the girlfriend’s motives can be easily enough explained by the way Sterling was treating her, very disrespectfully. She made him pay for that treatment. If you want to be able to trust the people you share your secrets with, it’s best to make sure you treat them respectfully, not as lesser beings. you don’t think she should’ve done it . Why not? Seriously.

          • jaw444

            i don’t follow what Kareem is saying–is he saying because Sterling’s racism didn’t result in drastic actions against him by players and the NBA in the past, it shouldn’t result in those actions now? But apparently he doesn’t think that Sterling should’ve been exposed “in an intimate relationship.” What intimate relationship? It was a relationship between two opportunists exploiting each other. Does anyone think girlfriend is the only one who was sleazy here? What about the very disrespectful way he was talking to her? He was talking to her as if she was his pet dog. “You can do whatever you want with them, you can sleep with them, just don’t do it in public, that makes me look bad.” He was inflicting his racism on her. Why is she the sleazy one for setting him up so she could retaliate and humiliate him? It sounds like he feels entitled to humiliate her all day long, why? because he provide her, as he does “his” players with food, with clothing, etc etc, they are bought and paid for and should not complain. Does Kareem agree with that thinking on Sterling’s part? If she hadn’t exposed Sterling, he wouldn’t have been exposed, not on the level that Kareem says he wishes mattered sooner. Well, it matters now. Why does he have such a problem with that? If she hadn’t exposed him, he wouldn’t have been exposed, not in the way she did it, far more powerful than anything the lawsuit tenants could’ve done. I don’t understand the judgements against her. It was a game that both of them were risking. He is responsible for the consequences of his actions.

          • Frank Donahue

            Jaw44: Kareem does express a problem with the privacy issue. As I said above, let the buyer beware. Neither adult in this plot can lay any claim to good character or selfless intentions. And you’re right, he’s treating her as just one more piece of property, as he clearly considers his players. I was a bit disappointed with parts of Kareem’s analysis myself.

    • Eric Stegner

      Sorry I have no respect for black muslims.

    • riceski

      he’s a mooslem – – no respect for that – islam hates all non islamics and calls for war against them – — read up on the real islam

    • Guest

      Why is he wrong? This isn’t a question of “is poison food, right or wrong?” This is the expression of one man’s personal opinion in a context not designed for public consumption. There is no violation of his fiduciary duty. What this truly is, is Race-Baters using racism as a club (via a laughably PC bureaucrat) to deny a private citizen the enjoyment of his private property. Probably because the end goal of all race bating is just such power. Unpopular speech is protected speech.

    • JJooeey

      Kareem’s statement was point on, proving information apparently not well known and speaking to the entire issue, not just the opportunity to jump on a fast rolling bandwagon of rampant racism on both sides of the issue. This man’s opinions, Serling, are so very revealing about his bias and Kareem’s opinion’s are revealing about his objective view of all the wrongs going on that every decent citizen should objectively have!

    • Mayor_Vaughan2012

      when did Kareem become a leader of the black community?

    • Kay

      I don’t see anyone raising a stink, boycotting or calling for Jay Z to sell his shares of the Brooklyn Nets when he so proudly wears his Five Percent Nation Medalion while attending the Nets games. He is a believer that all white people are “wicked” and all blacks are superior. Where is the outrage here? Fine him 2.5 million, ban him from attending Nets games and appearing at the Barclays center. Fair is fair

    • Kay

      I don’t see anyone raising a stink, boycotting or calling for Jay Z to sell his shares of the Brooklyn Nets when he so proudly wears his Five Percent Nation Medalion while attending the Nets games. He is a believer that all white people are “wicked” and all blacks are superior. Where is the outrage here? Fine him 2.5 million, ban him from attending Nets games and appearing at the Barclays center. Fair is fair

    • Tryingit Johnson

      Excellent! !!!

    • BobF50

      What is the point? That there is racism? No DUH? If this had been a white man that said what Kareem did would those that pushed their little like be gone?

  • Lisa

    about time some one Seen the crap happening

  • Jeanne Sullivan

    This was great!LAMO!

  • Daidri Peysen-Vejil

    pure class

  • Eric

    Wow!!! That is a wonderful and very true oped. Something that I never thought that i would say to a Laker. Thank you Kareem for speaking the truth on both sides of this issue. Finally someone says it like it should be. The nation is not racist as most want it to be (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Mr Obama) this is a loud mouthed idiot. And as Kareem said it was a private conversation that he was having with his girlfriend. She is just as guilty as he is. Shame on both of those idiots.

    • KWilliams

      I think you missed some of his points. Sterling is certainly a racist and Mr. Obama was correct on his opinion of him. As far as Sharpton and Jackson they should have addressed the issues with Sterling long ago, why are they up in arms now when they should have been back then during his lawsuits.

  • DonkeyDickWSPD

    That’s my nigga!

  • Shogun American

    Beyond that, here is some truth. Blacks are some of the most racist people on the planet. If not the most racist. You can’t even get in an argument with a black without the race card eventually coming out. Everything is about race. They condemn the US for having slaves, never even thinking about the fact that blacks were the first slave traders on this planet, trafficking in their own kind, and also forget that the first indentured servants were, whites. There are far more countries who trafficked in black slaves, far longer, than the 150 years, they did it in the US. Stupidity.

    • disqus_wdL4mckpqD

      Probably one of the most uneducated comments I have read in awhile. You, sir, are a moron and I forbid you to take another breathe.

      • Sean Nerio

        Let me guess you are black

        • Kenyan

          Nd you’re white .? Who cares truth doesn’t care bout color and that wasn’t it. So because pointing out someone May being black doesn’t prove anything .

        • Shaun_A1

          Let me guess you are candyland and I’m Django

      • ozarksunshine

        Yes your comment is the most uneducated one here. You are an ignorant fool who is a tool of racist liberals.

      • Jim Quinn

        Actually one of the first slave owners in this country was a black man, and the indentured servant/slave was white, more so white Irish children, you might want to open a book, there has been plenty written about white’s in servitude, just not compatible with the left’s view on slavery and racism. I’ll even help you out a bit.http://www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html A paragraph to wet your whistle. White slaves transported to the colonies suffered a staggering loss of life in the 17th and 18th century. During the voyage to America it was customary to keep the White slaves below deck for the entire nine to twelve week journey. A White slave would be confined to a hole not more than sixteen feet long, chained with 50 other men to a board, with padlocked collars around their necks. The weeks of confinement below deck in the ship’s stifling hold often resulted in outbreaks of contagious disease which would sweep through the “cargo” of White “freight” chained in the bowels of the ship.

        Ships carrying White slaves to America often lost half their slaves to death. According to historian Sharon V. Salinger, “Scattered data reveal that the mortality for [White] servants at certain times equaled that for [Black] slaves in the ‘middle passage,’ and during other periods actually exceeded the death rate for [Black] slaves.” Salinger reports a death rate of ten to twenty percent over the entire 18th century for Black slaves on board ships enroute to America compared with a death rate of 25% for White slaves enroute to America.

        • APOD.

          Actually HE was kidnapped and brought to AMERICA as a slave by whitess..nice try though.

          • DAWNOFNEWDAY

            and black sold blacks to whites. Nice try, though.

          • APOD.

            yes, but whites traveled miles to Africa for one thing ..Slaves, nice try buddy

        • Author Tracey Renee Duvall

          WHO HAS BEEN DOMINATING AMERICA SINCE GEORGE WASHINGTON. WHITES. ONLY ONE PRESIDENT OF COLOR PRESIDENT OBAMA. SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING..

          • Meekrob

            Stop yelling. It doesn’t make your stupidity appear any smarter.

          • ornurse73@comcast.net

            And how many Italian Catholics were elected the US Presidency? None!!! We don’t want some GINI elected to President of the USA! LIBERALS say it under their breath in their backroom meetings constantly. Sorry Gov. CHRISTIE you have three strikes already== Italian; Catholic; Overweight. I am a 1st generation Italian US born” Veteran who knows about discrimination “Gini; Wop; Greaseball, Where was the Outrage there, No Italians need apply!! Rascism is not just black vs white , but the Black / White gets all the attention. Rascism will always Suck! PS none of my family ever sold or bought any type of Slave! !

        • alwys_rgrts_reading_the_commen

          Africans selling their own has nothing to do with how blacks were treated by the people that purchased them. Africans did not create the laws and guidelines that caused the suffering of the slaves once they reached American soil. Africans did not create Jim Crow. Africans did not create the Day Law. Africans did not create the KKK. You get the point…

      • Sheree Tatum Strople

        *breath

      • shane tucker

        After reading this article I was actually thinking the same thing as shogun. It is true, I didn’t grow up with any racist upbringing at all but moved to southeast Texas at the age of 24 and was completely floored bybmy treatment from bkacks. Landlords not renting to me because I am white and saying that was the reason. Black parents telling their children not to speak to me because I am white. I will admit that racism is a problem amongst white people also but you people have to be willing to admit the same if it is ever to change.

        • DAWNOFNEWDAY

          The word racist is a communist coined term that the communist leaders used to intimidate the Russians into accepting communism. That’s why it’s still used today and only used at whites.

        • Steve Norris

          I agree that people can be ignorant no matter what the color of their skin. But racism is another issue, Blacks don’t have the power in this country for anything we say or do to make a real difference. We can be prejudice or even bigots but racism is an institutional matter. White people in America don’t have to open their mouths to be racist, all they have to do is institute a policy that favors whites over Blacks. It was wrong what happened to you but my belief is that most Blacks don’t harbor these feelings towards whites. I also believe that most whites don’t share the same sentiments as Donald Sterling. If they did this country truly would be a mess.

          • Malina Carrillo

            GREAT COMMENT STEVE NORRIS!

          • Steve Norris

            Thank you. ..

          • Bill M

            I’d argue that if you’re ignorant and bigoted towards me because I’m white and mainly for that reason, then you, sir, are racist. You are actively participating in racism. The lack of power doesn’t not change the offense.

            It’s nice that you’d like to reserve racism just for the white folks though, I’m sure it makes it easier to treat them like dirt when you, in your mind, believe that you’re not capable of being racist.

          • Steve Norris

            I don’t treat anyone like dirt. So what you’re saying doesn’t apply to me. I also respect everyone’s opinion and you are entitled to yours. I’m not here to change anyone’s mind about what they believe is right. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. Have a nice day. ..

        • Layton Harman

          Will Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/amdist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

      • Jim Trent

        And what part of what was said is wrong? Other then blacks were the first slave traders. They weren’t but they were doing it before the US was. Though some people like to lump anyone that is non white in with blacks that doesn’t make it so.There are numerous examples, documentations and such thru history proving that Africans were into slaves way before the US got involved. The US wasn’t even the first country to buy slaves from the native African people selling their own people. Black people owned slaves too yet you won’t hear anyone discuss that. Nope it’s all white people are racist and owned slaves. Which is so far from the truth it’s stupid. If you were poor you owned almost nothing and you certainly couldn’t afford a slave. Blacks act like every white person had 2-3 black slaves around. If you think it isn’t true then you are the uneducated moron. I see someone forbade you to breath a long time ago and your brain has died from lack of oxygen.

      • Elephantkiller

        Sorry, it is you who is woefully ignorant of who sold who to whom. Greedy African kings, princes, Portuguese slave traders and Arab middlemen traders all played a big role in the promotion of slavery.

      • Btbw220

        breath*. The irony here is priceless.

      • jt3z

        Hes not wrong you know

    • singndance

      a blind eye to the real history of slavery is taken by black americans. why?

      • Meekrob

        That’s a rhetorical question, right?

    • Shaun_A1

      Man you wrote a long paragraph about nothing but your opinions and its all wrong and this subject is about a racist white man belittling blacks like he is a slave owner and you flip this on blacks after hearing that tape? Man get outta here and go hide up under a rock with this clown.

      • Shogun American

        its a private conversation you fool.

      • Mercedes Torrez

        Like i wrote double standard people so your saying it was ok for snoop lion doog was ok for saying what he said or do we sue rappers he with out sin throw the first stone

        • Tai Mega

          Snoop doesn’t employ a team of white rappers, and the rap industry is not predominantly white..
          Sterling employs black men, and has a black head coach, the nba is mostly black, and sterling has a history of racist decisions…

    • http://jorn.knuttila.com jorn

      My irony meter just exploded. Now who’s gonna mop up this mess?

      • Shogun American

        that may have just been your stupidity meter.

        • http://jorn.knuttila.com jorn

          Probably both; I have them on the same circuit breaker. :)

    • WellReally

      You feel better now? Unfortunately for you, I don’t argue with people. If you find yourself in constant arguments with people, you might want to check yourself. If anything, anytime anyone white has attempted to argue with me, I’ve gotten called things racially crude or baiting. I’ve even been called a black b. I never react to that nonsense. I try not to waste my beauty on beasts. So I wouldn’t pull the race card that you’d love for me to use. And as for the actual story, Kareem is right. I was just saying the same thing. I’m quite frankly sick of this story.

    • Tai Mega

      Well if I owned a team and employed white players, and a white coach and
      staff, and made the remarks he made, then there would be issues, but when blacks make comments, they
      often have no money or power to effect a white persons well being. That
      power, then the comments are what make him a racist. Taking
      opportunity, whether employment, safety, etc, to negatively impact
      someone solely based on race is the problem.
      Maybe only Oprah could be a black racists, I’m sure employs plenty of white people.
      Smile…

    • TruthHurts

      True, slavery in Africa predated the Colonial Slave Trade by quite a bit of time. The difference being, in Africa people were made slaves because they A) Owed a debt B) Were a Prisoner of War or C) Committed a crime. It was not a matter of greed and profit. Also, in Africa the slaves were assimilated into the community, they had rights, could own property and could earn their freedom after a determined period of time. The fact that most remained where they were speaks volumes. In other words, they were still treated like human beings and not likened to “animals” or “farm equipment”, not stripped of their language and religion out of fear of a revolt. They were not worked to death and they didn’t have their babies ripped out of their arms to be used as currency. Their “masters” did not use religious dogma and an air of racial superiority and entitlement to justify evil actions by implying that their slaves were “less human” and that they were actually doing the “savages a favor”. It stands to reason that the “African Slave Traders” you’re so enamored of speaking about were under the impression that slaves would be treated the same by the Europeans as they were traditionally treated in Africa. They were obviously very wrong…as is your misinformed little history “lesson”. Kudos on putting 100% energy behind 10% of the truth though, that takes a special kind of person.

  • Bill Mattingly

    That’s to LOGICAL, the MEDIA can’t SPIN that to generate more AIR TIME !!! Great Job, Kareem !!!!

  • Mike Winmill

    Hey, something good DID come out of the Lakers this year.

    • Mike Winmill

      Too soon?

  • Joe Shakal

    Well said Kareem!!

  • JHLIII

    Interesting how Jabbar thinks on this. Count me as impressed.

    Well reasoned advancement of his views. Looks as if he were a *real* student-athlete at UCLA, after all.

    • DAWNOFNEWDAY

      “Listen, kid. I’ve been hearing that crap since I was at UCLA. I’m up their busting my butt every night. Tell your own man to drag his butt up and down the court for 48 minutes.”

      ‘Jimmy, you ever seen a grown man naked.’

      I always think of Airplane! when I think of Kareem, LOL

  • http://www.lawstarz.com/ mike ahuja

    well stated

  • MissingPerson

    Honest and balanced in his assessment here, and he was *hilarious* in ‘Airplane!’

    Give the man a(nother) trophy!

  • misty

    I do not condone Mr. Sterling’s comments it is wrong and everyone should be upset, but my question is would it be such a big deal if the owner was black and he was talking about white people? The answer would be no and Al Sharpton would find some way to condone the owner’s actions.

    • Jim Quinn

      Magic Johnson stated yesterday, he only hires blacks and latino’s, Does that make him a racist..?

      • Drew

        Yes, it does.

        • DAWNOFNEWDAY

          but blacks aren’t going to pay fines or get physical threats or be ostracized from their society for being ‘racist.’ Only whites face this punishment because most whites are too stupid to unite as whites. I find it funny how even so many whites get mad when another white person makes racial remarks about blacks, yet these same whites move out as their neighborhoods gets blacker or browner.

          • Zee Ellison

            As a black person i can be honest enough say most African Americans don’t know how to “take care of things”if you will and often bring drama even if the person is sophisticated 9out of 10 times their roots aren’t. And in the black culture one doesn’t just disown one’s family because they have upped his or hers financial status.
            So i dont judge the whits for leavening. I don’t think that makes them racist either.

      • KWilliams

        Not at all because if he does not who is?

        • Steve Norris

          Thank you…

      • Zee Ellison

        No that doesn’t make him racist. Racism is something you feel in your heart.it’s hating some one because of there skin tone. Its wanting to rid the world of a particular race simply because one wasTAUGHT hate people off that color.
        I don’t think magic is racist i think his decision to only hire minorities was based on the idea of making more opportunities for people of color. Seven out of ten jobs are usually given whites.the other 3 are forcably given to other ethnicities. I for get what the law our act is called but the gist of is the fulfilling of a minority quota.
        I write this in a friendly tone,it’s my opinion and i just wanted to give a different perspective please don’t take my response in a accusatory tone

      • Steve Norris

        How is he racist if he hires Latinos???

        • Guest

          Because sometimes one’s prejudices may be limited to certain racial and ethnic groups? He could be prejudiced against white people but not Latinos. Racism isn’t an all or nothing concept.

          I know lots of people I grew up with (in a very white neighborhood in Chicago) who have said the most foul, disgusting things about black people I’ve ever heard, yet are quite accepting of Latinos.

        • Brian Sheehan

          Because sometimes one’s prejudices may be limited to certain racial and ethnic groups? He could be prejudiced against white people but not Latinos. Racism isn’t an all or nothing concept.

          I know a number of people I grew up with (in a very white neighborhood in Chicago) who have said the most foul, disgusting things about black people I’ve ever heard, yet are quite accepting of Latinos and Asians.

          • Steve Norris

            My understanding is that racist don’t care for any other race but their own.

      • Mercedes Torrez

        yes

      • misty

        Wow, I do not know if that makes him racist. but once again if a white business owner only hires whites then all hell breaks loose . I mean I do not think its right that magic only hires blacks, and latinos.

    • Mercedes Torrez

      yup i agree

  • Daffy2009

    WTG Kareem, the man was my favorite player of all time.

    And, while he said it more eloquently than I had posted previously, the girlfriend is a whore, no question about it.

    • Kendra Willett

      Don’t diss whores by calling her that. There is nothing wrong with being a whore. You men are all whores so why the double standard. There is something wrong with what this dumb bitch did.

    • ornurse73@comcast.net

      Kareem has shown he is an intelligent & educated man that looks at both sides of the story. He sees the pros ,& cons before uttering outlandish statements, I wish more people were like him in ALL 6SITUATIONS in life especially in politics! !

  • Michelle Houghtaling

    Wow, THIS is impressive!

  • m4gdelen4

    I like his message. But he got a little sexist with Sterling’s girlfriend. Why is she a beguiling, “sexy nanny” all of sudden?

    • AlphaLackey

      You’re right, like all hot young women side-dating rich, married old men, she loves him for his mind and personality. The 1.8 million dollar duplex he bought for her was irrelevant.

      Seriously. Get a grip.

      The only reason she’s a “beguiling, sexy nanny” is because Kareem was too polite to tell it like it is.

      • KWilliams

        And he is lying cheating racist whore?

        • AlphaLackey

          Certainly “racist”. “lying” and “cheating” can’t be said for sure, we don’t know if he and his wife have some sort of understanding or arrangement. “Whore”, however, is just plain wrong. He’s DOING the paying, not BEING paid.

          None of that is relevant to my point, however. Kareem’s criticism is accurate, not sexist.

          • KWilliams

            No racist can be said for sure, no doubt about that check the legal records.

          • AlphaLackey

            I’m fairly sure that I said he was ‘certainly racist’. It’s a matter of public record, after all, as detailed in the article above.

          • KWilliams

            You said can’t be said for sure, but that could have been a typo.

  • Ron Handy

    ” Kareem ” You were, & still are one of my all time favorite sports figures. Someone that kids can look up to.! There aren’t enough people for young people to pattern there life after theses days. !! I agree with your comments 100%..

  • stuart

    Nailed it!

  • William Skipper

    Kareem tells it like it is. The truth shall set you free.

  • Renee H

    Words of wisdom. Yah, Kareem!

  • Paul

    “…perhaps channeling his closet libertarianism…”
    Or has just has common sense. Not every decision and view point has to be aligned with some political side.

    I agree with almost all of Kareem’s rant. I’ll leave it at that.

  • Shirley Flowers

    I agree one hundred percent with Jabbar, what about Paula Deen, Donald Trump and the many many others that no one jumps on. Slow day for the media that is what this whole thing is about.

    • kmandingo

      …and Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and plenty of others who crack on whites. There’s plenty of racial jive going around on all ends.

  • Kenny, edmond

    I don’t agree with sterling but I don’t see any of the black players retuning there multi million dollar pay checks and leaving.

    • DAWNOFNEWDAY

      Exactly. So many blacks claim they hate whites, yet they want to live around whites, they use technology created by whites, they don’t us taxes paying their welfare doles (yes, yes, yes, I know not all blacks are on welfare), they want an all-black fill in the blank while complaining about ‘too many whites’, etc. Such hypocrisy.

      • Steve Norris

        That’s a load of crap there are very few Blacks who don’t care for whites. It’s whites like you that nobody likes Black or white. And there are plenty of whites on welfare too get a life…

  • NB Forrest

    Lew is smarter than I thought!

  • doug_w
  • GrandTango

    Wow: Jabbar is the GREATEST to ever play in the NBA…and He is not a Butt-Kissing Liberal. This is Good News.

  • kmandingo

    Jabbar nails it, there’s plenty of sordid issues in this whole episode. TMZ is at the top of the list. An angry, nosy organization run by Harvey Levin who is of course a gay gossip queen.

    • Kendra Willett

      What is wrong with being gay? Why can’t you just say the man gossips and is horrible. Why do you have to lump those things together with him being gay? It seems as like you want to make the point that that being gay is comparable to being like this asshole?

      • kmandingo

        Gays run TV, they run the film industry and this kind of story, featured on TMZ is an example of the crap that makes it into the public vector on their collective watch. Many gays are angry, they are self-conscious and love to gossip for whatever sad reason. Levin is a puny, messed up trouble maker…period. This was a private conversation. It should have been kept as such.

  • suziQ2013

    Finally an intelligent conversation and statements regarding this whole ridiculous incident kudos to Kareem! Let’s face it….there are still bottom-dwellers that have a twisted way of thinking, BUT racist thinking goes both ways! I’m wondering if these statements were made by a person of color instead against Caucasians instead of this old white dude against people of color would the media be going as crazy? Would there be such a backlash? I think racism is disgusting in any form and there are no excuses, but ALL should be held accountable for moronic racist statements or actions no matter of their color, race, creed etc. I certainly hope that the Half-Wit Girlfriend was kicked to the curb where she belongs!

  • Truth Teller

    As usual, Kareem is spot on.

  • Nicole N Walker

    Bait him she did however those were his words not hers. He said exactly how he felt. I agree recording him was absolutely wrong but it still doesn’t negate his true feeling about blacks. To tell someone that hey you can only interact with a certain race in private is racist no matter what your skin color may be. To say as I’ve read blacks were the first slave owners to make it seem okay about what was said is crazy. Nothing will ever make what he said okay. When you depend on a team that is 80 percent black to play for you. To give their blood, sweat, and tears to a brand that they are proud to represent only to find out their boss doesn’t deem them fit to even be at the game or seen with in public. It definitely would have an effect on the moral of the nba. This isn’t about blacks pulling out the race card. Its about a bunch of statements made by a person that were indeed racist. It wouldn’t be acceptable if the owner was black and made the same comments about whites. Wrong is wrong period!

    • DAWNOFNEWDAY

      these black players were making millions upon millions of dollars, but dear god their boss makes bad comments about them. Do you really think those blacks are going to give up the millions back to Sterling for his comments? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Let’s can the BS.

      • Nicole N Walker

        I absolutely don’t expect them to because they were doing their job in order to make those millions. It still doesn’t negate the issue. You seem upset about those “black players” as you called them. What I find quite interesting is that some people have a problem with being disrespected and belittled by a man they go out to help make money for. So its ok for “those black players” to run and down the court for him but its not ok for them to feel a certain way about how he actually feels about them? Hmmm it really doesn’t matter now. He has already been punished. You have a blessed day as well.

    • Kendra Willett

      Go and read the article again.

      • Nicole N Walker

        I don’t need to read the article again. My comment has nothing to do with what he stated. They are my opinions. But thank you for trying to correct me however, I will stick with what I said. Have a blessed day

  • Mark Peace Thomas

    AMEN!!

  • Candyman101

    My point of view exactly.

  • dhairston

    Problem that I have with “new media” nowadays is that very few of these outlets can report on a straight primary source (in this case the actual op-ed pinned in TIME) while resisting placing an ideological spin on it. Just report on what the man wrote because it, justly, stands on it’s own merit. Keep your politics, laden with presumptions and selective editing out of it…but I guess I am asking too much from a political based website.

    Silly me…carry on.

  • Hank Taylor

    I have always respected Lew Alcindor.(Kareem)

    • D_Shot15

      Has to be sarcasm considering your disrespecting him by calling him Lew Alcindor……

      • Hank Taylor

        Not at all. I am old enough to remember his first name. I put in parentheses Kareem. Sometimes i speak of Cassious Clay. I love both of them. Our world is so full of negativity, sir. Relax.

      • TalonDesigns

        FYI D_Shot15 – Kareem was born “Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr.”

        As Hank said, relax man. Not everything is sarcasm or meant as disrespect.

  • Hugh Dismuke

    So………….. Kareem is angry because Sterling was ‘wrongly’ caught and it was done in a sleazy way?? So is there a more proper way of finding out if someone is a racist when it pours out of the woodwork? Or according to what Kareem is saying ‘are we even suppose to bring it out into the open?’ I don’t understand this way of thinking. What is the point of his anger here? One half of it is right and the other half is wrong. Oh boy. Racist folks are going to LOVE this guy for helping to bail them out. This is bizarre. I thought we were suppose to be going into a direction of bringing haters out into the open if and when they get found out, shaming them and learning from those lessons to grow as a nation. To be Americans. But now we have Jabaar saying it’s un-American to turn it into sleaze? Instead we’re going to immediately forgive them before they have a chance of being outed? I don’t get it. I thought the words coming out of Sterling’s mouth where already sleazy to begin with? I mean what are we talking about here? How about this one. ‘If Sterling was a great guy who loved people from all walks of life then there would be no need for his now X-girlfriend to even bring it up right?’ Wrong is wrong plain and simple. Or so I thought. Maybe I was wrong all of this time. Maybe I should’t condemn racism. I can’t allow myself to be that stupid though. I like people, especially those who are good, hard working people looking for a better life who have respect for all people. Because at the end of the day race does not matter. Paying the bills is far more important. I’m sorry to say that it appears Kareem’s idea world has been disrupted.

    • Hugh Dismuke

      Just so folks don’t get me wrong, I have great respect for Kareem. Always liked the guy. I just don’t understand the thought process here.

      • KAW87

        What he upset about is when sterlings views about race were exposed the first time it wasn’t a big deal but because it came out again its made a bigger deal. Basically the team and other players in the whole thing already knew his views on race. The media is making it a bigger deal

      • Kendra Willett

        If you need to understand read the comment below by KAW87.

    • Kendra Willett

      How do you not get it?

  • Lisa Callarman

    Thank you, Mr. Abdul-Jabbar for your logical response. After reading the transcripts from the call, I, too, felt Mr. Sterling wasn’t the only scandalous person in the mix.

  • Bladerunner9

    And then he went on 2 MSNBC shows last night. He comes form left of center but he’s not extreme.

  • afftongrown

    He speaks the truth! Noone could have said it better!

  • APOD.

    Why should he be mad at the public for not knowing about Sterlings previous racism, he should Blame the MEDIA

    • Tyrone Phillips

      Right i didnt know bout him until the tape came out

  • D_Shot15

    SMH at the sarcasm presented at the fact that he would even be intellectually capable of coming up with a thought so far beyond the small minds of those who thought he was incapable…lol I won’t even touch the blatant disrespect of referring to him as Lew Alcindor….SMH

  • Terry Ramsey Haskins

    my opinion on this from the very beginning has been, “what did you think an old, rich, white man’s views were going to be on race?” if he wants to be a racist asshat, that’s his right as an American citizen. I am not up on NBA laws, but what can they really do to him, outside of fining him? I’m pretty sure there is no law against racists owning businesses. he certainly doesn’t seem to be discriminatory in his hiring practices in regards to the Clippers. I hate racism, or any kind of isms for that matter, but I have to agree with Kareem on this one.

    • profanity12

      um. i’m not sure if you realize this, but your first sentence is incredibly racist. might want to check on that.

  • seti

    love you Kareem

  • Sammy Cantic

    This is all crap people!! Want to get rid racism…stop freakn talking about it already…this is the biggest problem…guys like sharpten ect…should not be supported..or any tyoe of person,black or white for that matter…the longer they are allowed to speak the longer this stuff goes on. Bottom line is,there will always be people that dont like eachother..but the more we respond to them..the more life we give them…stop the maddness already;(

  • Kendra Willett

    You are brilliant Kareem. well said.

  • jmw_123

    Nothing to add to a perfect recap.

  • LASUX

    Well said.

  • Wheel

    The NBA is about to set the bar. What remains to be seen is whether anyone ever pays attention to that bar again.

    IMHO, this wreaks of situational outrage requiring punitive action. First part, absolutely, but the second part may never be repeated, depending on who commits the offense..

  • Jimijay25

    Well said Kareem. I hope that gold digging whore gets jail time. She looks so devious and skanky.

  • margaretbugg

    That is exactly what I said. It was well known that he was a racist for a long time. Yet those very men that went to play for him that had to have heard what a racist he was are now protesting against him. Why did they feel the need to play for him in the first place knowing what he was. Well said Mr. Kareem sir.

  • Jenny Guzman

    Jabbar brought up a point that I had thought about as well when I first heard the story: What about this gold digger? Why all of a sudden did she decide to bait him that way and have this blasted all over the media?? He must have denied her the latest Louis V. bag or cut off her allowance – SOMETHING! She obviously knew what his feelings were towards minorities, yet she still courted him, although she is a minority herself – “half black – minority” according to her on the tape. Why didn’t she leave him or come out about his ways sooner? I know if I were black, or just being the Hispanic that I am, I would not involve myself with anyone who is disgusted with my ethnicity. The remarks he made throughout the tape were pretty bad, and it’s sad that these are still the views of some Americans, BUT, it’s true that we all are trying to defend our right to privacy, yet we find this juicy and entertaining. Al Sharpton is one of many hypocrites also because when you have money like Sterling, you’ll be fine with being called whatever the money wants to call you. Who’s going to bite the hand that feeds you??

  • D Mullins

    Kareem you make more sense than anyone so far, God bless you!!

  • Mercedes Torrez

    But its ok for rappers to say all kinds of racist things I think not not saying what what the clipper owner said was right but come on now I am not white and a person of color i also get offended by comics and other races that but down white African Americans Latinos ect ect Dose any one get my point? double standard I say!!!

  • Doe Adeer

    Perfect Kareem. Love you for pointing out Al’s BS hypocrisy!

    • Mercedes Torrez

      so do I

  • Melanie Mechura

    Kudos to Kareem…!! The way I look at it… If they are going to punish Sterling, that shemale should be punished too… Two way street…

    • Mercedes Torrez

      Like i posted double standards Magic Johnson cheated on his wife. snoop lion or dogg look at what came out of his mouth is he getting sued I think that Sterling comments or also wrong he with out sin throw the first stone

  • jgrim

    Sterling is not the only hypocrite in the 1% whose donated money comes with strings attached. Jabbar is pinpointing an unpleasant truth about the billionaires who buy themselves awards from charities & non-profits- everyone is for sale.

  • what_next_now

    yeah what he said

  • Vintage Rock

    Kareem nailed it!

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  • Mike_McKoy

    She’s a whistle blower. You do not attack those that stand up….Becuase she did what lawyers & celebrities, and previous NBA players could not. She proved it

    • Darth Javion

      She stood up because of a lawsuit brought against her by sterling. That’s the reason she did it to get back at sterling. Had nothing to do with doing the right thing, this is more of a revenge type deal.

      • Mike_McKoy

        That’s not revenge. That’s reaping what you sow or at the very least karma. Sterling sued her after she broke up with him for his views and control issues. He alleged senior abuse…saying she took advantage of him when he was clearly sane, gave gifts willingly, and was legally married. Not only that but, Sterling flaunted a lot of women at the basketball games in front of his wife. How many men do you know that are so controlling they can have girlfriends in front of their wives? That’s horrendous. What he tried to do is punish her (V) for leaving him and she fired back and knocked him off his horse.

        He brought it on himself. Mostly likely had he left her alone to live her life she wouldn’t have exposed him.

        • cws1959

          Sterling’s wife sue her not Donald. Get your facts straight. The X GF is no more than a golddigger and it was cool until Sterling’s wife decided the community property given to her was not hers to be had.

          • Mike_McKoy

            If you want to be “FACTUAL” a marriage is a union. His assets are hers and they share bank accounts, etc. She couldn’t have brought the suit forward without his permission. If she loses…he loses.

            How ya like me now?

      • Mike_McKoy

        More like he forced her hand. He should have left her alone

  • Author Tracey Renee Duvall

    I agree with Kareem statements regarding the NAACP & Al Sharpten and the girlfriend. Why are they shock? there has been convert racism in America since the beginning of time. Donald trump, Paula Dean, John Wayne, Elvis Presley and so many more. The girlfriend was a opportunist she knew that Sterling was a racist. Until we deal with the true issues why whites think that their superior over blacks racism will be here for a eternity.

  • robert

    Excuse me but in the actual Time article he didn’t mention Sharpton or the NAACP. http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/ It would seem rather than worrying about a guys personal opinions and suggestion he lose his franchise we should worry more about the outrage. Racism is no more a scourge than any other group politic identity bullshit like black colleges and the NAACP, it would be real courage to point that out.

    • Collin

      My biggest concern is who was those white racist friends who kept calling him to tell him that his girlfriend is posing with black people on instagram, one thing Donald Sterling said in his racist rant all black people should be aware of, is that the way he feels about black people is a cultural thing that would never change so he seem to be speaking about himself and a lot of his friends and white people, and why didn’t the NBA do something about this guy before when they knew about his racist history so as much as some of you white folks here seem to be using this Kareem envelope to bash Obama and Al Sharpton ask yourself these question why did the NBA sold a racist a basket ball team why did’t Donald Sterling come out and apologize for what he said so far who are the other racist white friends and people is he referring to, i guess there isn’t anyone here sober enough to ask these questions…

      • http://batman-news.com CoolerDude

        How do you know it was his white friends who kept calling him to tell him about her posing with black guys on Instagram? Maybe it was his Asian, or Indian, or Native American friends. Its racist to assume that it was just white people being racist, but I guess you could be one of those types who believes that certain people get a free pass on racial prejudices.

      • Fullstop

        This is called a period > .
        Use it properly.

        • Collin

          i was hoping Fullstop you had something more intelligent to reply about my very long contribution rather than a mare period > .

          • Fullstop

            I know it’s just a “mare” period.
            I’ll try not to disappoint.

            Newsflash, there are people who are racist.
            Newsflash #2, they’re sometimes old white people and have power.
            Newsflash #3, they’re not always white, but it’s only unacceptable to be racist if you are indeed white.

            The guy is a gross human to be dating that tranny when he is full well married. He seems like just a miserable human being all around.

            You got what you wanted, the guy will (supposedly) be lifetime banned. Don’t keep digging for more, it’s not a good look.

          • Collin

            I am not digging for anything i was only replying to someone here who seem to be defending the guy so it is not about me getting what i wanted we all suppose to want what happened unless we are racist i don’t know why you felt the need to reply to me when my comment was not directed to you, maybe you felt you had to has a tribal thing……you really should be replying to the ones who is changing the subject and defending him Fullstop

          • Collin

            are you a racist Fullstop??????

  • chiefpontiac

    Larry Elder said just about the same thing yesterday on his radio program. Elder is a Black talk show radio host from South Central LA…

  • Tim Cyran

    Kareem is so right about ALL the issues mentioned above.

  • TEEJAYZ

    Kareem is an extraordinary man. Incredibly bright on a myriad of topics and a man who has walked the walk throughout his life. His take on the finger wagging was right on the money. And now we get to see if all the ambulance chasing protestors will show up tonight even though Sterling has been banned for life. Bet they will. No one wants to turn down a camera opp.

  • IcySammy

    You know … why stop at the Sharpton, Jackson, the GDW (GD = Gold Digging .. figure out the rest), and the NAACP? His money has bought a lot of influence. Now everyone is on their high horse because of the safety in numbers … but what about the players and Doc Rivers prior to this past weekend? Now they’re protesting and reminding everyone how personally and deeply hurt they are by this rich old coot. They just NOW found out the man signing their lucrative checks is a horrible racist?!? Come on! This flap, along with the public sympathy, just allowed them a convenient way to continue making those checks while adding a little victim patina to themselves. The beauty of these incidences is that affords everyone an opportunity to sacrifice someone else so that no one notices your own complicit and whorish nature. Racism is wrong BEFORE someone figures out how to showcase their moral superiority and sympathy inducing victim status, while not sacrificing what bought their silence in the first place. Everything has a price. Nothing moral about that.

  • Mary Kinsella Roberts

    Does he have anything to say about Jay-Z wearing the “white people are devils” thing to the games? We have feelings, too.

  • Thomas Baxter Mercer

    As for slavery, how many of you were alive during slavery? Nobody alive today had anything to do with it.

  • http://cnnisajoke.net/ The Mighty Bison

    Thank this pussy PC era the country has entered and the blathering white apologists. Nobody gives a rats ass about racism unless it involves a white person. Shaq, Barkley, Spike Lee, etc. can spew bigotry and hatred and nobody will bat an eye; for obvious reasons. It’s funny how such a glaringly obvious double standard is so widely accepted.

  • Tai Mega

    NAACP has been a joke since its creation, and the NAACP has a history of taking money for its silence. What privacy does a cheating racist husband deserve?
    He trusted her, and she turned on him, like he turned on his family and wife…

  • Dr. Johnny Nacho

    Completely agree w/ #33’s comments beginning w/ a publication of a private conversation. The second obvious point being just how much of a joke the NCAAP really is.

  • spark spark

    My feelings EXACTLY!!!

  • Richard StJohn

    The most intelligent comment from an athlete since Kobe refused to blindly support Trayvon and wait for the facts to come out.

  • Johnny Hurst

    Hoo Rayy for Kareem Abdul-Jabar way to tell it like it is

  • Amanda Mitchell

    That could not have been worded any better. Thank you.

  • Carl

    Now this makes more sense than any other hype I have heard, the double standards set forth and hypocrisy that is being displayed by all parties concerned is sickening. I am glad I am not a basketball fan any longer. I agree with Mark Cuban,being a moron is just that and not illegal. Kudos to you Mr. Abdul-Jabbar. I applaud your words and believe It is your example of integrity we all need to follow to eradicate racism and even prejudice in our great country.

  • Fedup
  • Ozzy Osgood

    My respect for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar just went up some notches.

  • nigsSuck

    Have total respect for sooo many Blacks,the naacp? Zero. They just take the cash and look in the mirror and like Al racist Sharpton, they love themselves.

    • Fullstop

      I can tell how much respect you have by your name.
      You have a weird way of showing your love.

      • nigsSuck

        My Black brothers agree with me on the name, don’t be so shallow.

        • Fullstop

          Mr. Sterling? Is that you?
          Why did you date the tranny in the first place?

          • PacificSage

            This person is Gary Kenneth Grasser.
            Lives in Hoquiam, Washington

  • Ryan-Tology

    So, you guys do realize that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar never mentioned Al Sharpton or the NAACP in his op-ed, right?

  • Big Papa

    Kareem for President
    Right now HE is the smartest man on the planet.

  • Rhonda Worley-parsley

    I AGREE!

  • Kevin Lipke

    Turn the other cheek. Allowing people to be bigots like this piece of crap (Sterling) and not putting a stop to it before this past weekend is just another example of the pussification of America. Why do we allow people to talk like this? If you talk it, you walk it, in this case. He was part of the old regime with the then-commissioner David Stern who allowed this kind of thing to happen. No one can say Stern had no idea this occurred. Thank goodness that the new commissioner put a stop to it and did something about it. It’s about money. It’s about the NBA wanting to make more money than the NFL, at least it used to be until a decent human being replaced Stern. It’s also sad that money follows fame. The NAACP gave this guy awards??? Are you friggin kidding me? Just because Sterling paid off in grants to the NAACP doesn’t allow him to say what he said. There is no such thing as Freedom of Speech when this guy spoke. It’s awful this happened, and if you have kids at home, talk to them about everything that’s wrong with the piece of garbage Sterling.

  • Granville Croom Jr.

    Jabbar why are you bring n it up now,they got him now, something take time

  • Carol

    Kareem has always been a class act and a gentleman in all he says and does. He is so right in questioning the timing now and the white washing of Sterling’s past with a donation (bribe) to the NAACP.

  • Granville Croom Jr.

    he is not a real American,his ,he do not even vote an now he want to talk

    • jojac10

      I dont think writing was your strong suit in school!

  • PacificSage

    “grievance mongers such as Al Sharpton”?

    NEXT!

  • nigsSuck

    I have an idea, lets secretly tape the locker room and Al Sharptons private views and see what happens.

    • PacificSage

      This person is Gary Kenneth Grasser.
      Lives in Hoquiam, Washington
      Can be found on Facebook.
      LOL

      • nigsSuck

        That’s me !!! And I stand by everything I say.

  • JayMoonz23

    My hats off to Kareem. Agreed with every point he made.

  • whhhaaaat

    I think you are confused. That’s Roger Murdock, the copilot.

  • Josh829

    Well said Kareem!

  • Garrett Soucy

    Jessie Jackson once told my Dad he was the Emperor of all Black people…

  • Guest

    Here’s a piece I did on Shaq’s tasteless actions towards the young man http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

  • Layton Harman

    What about Shaq’s mocking of a young man with a physical condition? Is Adam Silver and The NBA going to address that? http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • Guest

      no. why would he?

  • Darryl Ford

    Duplicity abounds when the only color that matters is green.

  • Donna E Turner

    Thank you!

  • Donna E Turner

    Thank you!

  • Kobie

    I just read the whole Kareem piece, and he doesn’t mention the NAACP or Sharpton once.

    • Benjamin_check

      Most black people don’t like them. If you knew any black people with sense you’d know that. They’re boot licking tools of the system. All the preacher huckster leaders talking that integration nonsense.

      • http://www.mattfoulger.com/ Matt Foulger

        “Integration nonsense”? Lol. I guess black people with sense prefer segregation?

      • Kobie

        That may be true. That doesn’t change the fact that Kareem didn’t mention them. So why did the author of this piece include them in the block quotes? That’s pretty dishonest.

    • chicagomycity

      I am black and can’t stand Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, particularly Jesse. Most black people I know feel the same. I really want to know what black people ya’ll know that really stan for them, that is under 65. For some reason the white liberal media seems to only pull those idiots in for black commentary. They are not leaders, they are nothing more than self appointed race baiters.

      • Kobie

        I don’t like them either. That’s not the point. The point is that the author of this post dishonestly inserted the NAACP and Al Sharpton into the story when Kareem never mentioned them. That’s hackish nonsense.

  • John W Tobin

    Brilliant is right. A voice of reason. Well said, Kareem.

  • Brian Hickman

    Kareem for President!

  • Layton Harman

    – Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • Hugh Jass

      Why would he? Shaq is retired. That would be like a boss at your old job giving you a write up.

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  • Darlene Whitney

    Children are taught racism when they are growing up. People of all races don’t necessarily like people of other races. That’s their choice and it is freedom of speech. It may be ignorant and it may be wrong but you can’t always change people’s beliefs. This was a private conversation that was intentionally leaked to destroy a prominent man by a vindictive mistress who will probably end up with a book deal and on the talk show circuit.

    • http://www.mattfoulger.com/ Matt Foulger

      Freedom of association. Nobody is trying to change his beliefs or impinge on his freedom of speech. They’re disassociating themselves from his toxic waste dump of a reputation.

  • Dana

    That last part sounds a lot like libertarian trolls who haunt liberal websites, say stupid things to start an argument, and then are shocked JUST SHOCKED when they’re banned. Then they cite the First Amendment. Never mind the First Amendment doesn’t apply to private individuals, ONLY to the government.

    If it had been the government that had exposed Sterling’s call, Abdul-Jabbar would have an argument. It didn’t, and at least as far as that goes, he doesn’t.

    P.S. I’m also beyond tired of idiot men blaming women for everything they do. If you’re that incapable of thinking for yourselves, it’s time you retire as lords of the earth.

  • Whoa Jackson

    finally, someone is making sense!!!

  • Gina

    Awesome! Nuff said!

  • Doreen Rekoski

    Well said.

  • http://in7thheaven.wordpress.com Filicia J

    Wonderfully stated! That is all that needs to be said!

  • Forbidden Fruit

    This is Duck Dynasty 2.0.

    Yes, you have the right to free speech, but you’re not free from the repercussions of your words and actions. No one is censoring Donald Sterling or taking his freedom by putting him in jail for his words. But the NBA, as a private institution, has every right to shitcan him.

    Nobody owes you employment. If you piss off your boss, you lose your job. That should apply to billionaires and minimum wage workers equally. Why everyone is so quick to rush to the defense of this racist, sexist 1%er is further proof of how stupid Americans have become. If you were in his position, do you think he’d defend you?

  • Layton Harman

    — Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

  • http://noorlucman.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php Noor_Lucman

    Inner thoughts, however evil, and behavioural inequities displayed and uttered in private are supposed to be kept from public scrutiny. There is a thin line between a bard and a closet psycho.

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  • Bob Williams

    I was a little dismayed when Lou changed his name to Kareem, but to each his own. After all, it was none of my freekin’ business to begin with.
    I am willing to bet that Kareem is the most cerebral player to play in the NBA, and it shows. He is arguably the best center to ever play in the NBA, and most certainly a credit to his race.
    The human race, that is!

  • JonHex

    This article puts random paragraphs in a special quote format to make it look like it came word for word from the op-ed. That’s just bad journalism.

  • Patriot

    Great article and well spoken by Kareem. There are a lot of why now and not before. Kareem is correct I blame both sides, Sterling has an awful track record dating back thirty plus years. I wonder if Kareem will now targeted and called a uncle Tom?

  • Layton Harman

    == Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • Hugh Jass

      Being that Shaq doesn’t play in the NBA or own a team, I doubt Silver can do much about it.

  • http://ksheldonbailey.org K. Sheldon Bailey

    I respect Mr. Jabbar, but I don’t think that the suggested crime of a secret recording is equal to the contents of the recording. Would it have been better for everyone if she had NOT recorded it? I say, not. Personally, I don’t think it should matter how crimes (social or moral) are exposed. In fact, I think that it is more important that they are exposed, if the alternative is them not being exposed if the only way is through secret recording.

    In that same manner of thinking, I think it’s utterly ridiculous when a person’s case is thrown out of court because their confession the the crime was “secretly recorded.” Chances are they would not have confessed to killing someone during a “private” conversation if they KNEW they were being recorded. How is it right, or just, or how does it serve the wellbeing of the citizens when a killer or criminal is released just because someone secretly recorded their confession?? Why is the “crime” of the secret recorder greater than that of a killer?? That’s makes absolutely no sense to me.

    And whereas some may considered the secret recording (which supposedly wasn’t secret at all – in the Sterling knew, and had authorized other recordings for reasons I’m not quite clear on) was “sleazy”, I don’t know if that issue belongs in the same conversation as what Sterling is guilty of. Sure, they are undoubtedly related because of their simultaneous occurrence. But they are different. Much, much different. Sterling’s issue is so much more important that it warrants having a day, a conversations, and an article all to itself. Save the “sleazy” not-so-secret recording topic for another day, another conversation, and another article.

  • kyle1484johnson

    BOOM

  • bigmoinaz

    Kudo’s to Mr. Jabbar! I concur with everything he said!

  • Geoff

    I’m not saying who is better but…It was decisions made while Bush was in power that lead to the epic collapse of America’s economy in 2008.

  • Victor

    oh yeah – he NAILED it….

  • Red47

    Yep.

  • FerrisMi

    That was the most rational, intellegent treatis I’ve read on this whole ugly mess.

  • IHateFatChicks

    Fantastic comments by brilliant man.

  • Kendra

    Brilliant indeed Mr. Jabar well stated and extremely well spoken!

  • darren smith
  • Layton Harman


    Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

  • n0th1ng_r3al

    So in a nutshell people are whores and do anything for money?

  • Collinsdad

    I don’t always agree with Kareem but he always has thoughts behind his views and they always have sense within them. He isn’t all blind emotion.

  • UrbanJungleFashion

    Kareem just dropped the mic. I agree with him 110%. No matter what race, creed, or nationality you come from you should agree as well. NO ONE is innocent in this. It’s funny how money changed EVERYONE’s tune.

  • fltactical

    Nailed it. Never took Kareem for such a thoughtful person. My bad big guy. I guess I was prejudiced against you as a dumb jock. BTW. Nice Lord of the Flies reference. Classic!

    • MyDarkMeatRises

      He doesn’t care how you feel about his intelligence, peon.

      • jojac10

        i agree! These blogs are quite commical!

  • Linda Taylor

    The most sensible, honest, and accurate response on this subject I have heard. Go Kareem! You are a very smart man!

  • Todd Tizzod

    What a Smart and level headed man Kareem is.He is 100% correct.The timing of this worthless “so-called Reveal” HARMS the game because its the playoffs.Also how is the NBA going to enforce the 2.5 million dollar fine on Sterling when they banned him for life?The NBA isnt a COURT of law,they have NO authority to fine a Banned owner.Sterling is laughing and crying at the same time….

  • Steve Hazard

    Finally someone to look at this from both sides. I do not agree with the remarks Sterling’s made but what happened to a person’s right to privacy or freedom of speech. I think the Commissioner and NBA are over stepping their authority. A conversation between Sterling and his girlfriend is no one else’s business.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=636412965 Patrick McCartney

    Glad to see Kareem reinforced my regard for him over the years.

  • glorrierose

    Excuse me, but this: “Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out,” he mocked. “She was like a sexy nanny playing ‘pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.’ She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.”

    is SEXIST as hell.

    Almost NO ONE is talking about the inherent sexism involved in this fiasco. And therein lies JUST AS MUCH HYPOCRISY.

    • http://TopRightNews.com/ John Urban

      She is accused of embezzling nearly $2 million from Mr. and Mrs. Sterling and has a long history of unsavory dealings. Much to come out in the next few days about that right here.

      • lisa

        She kind of burned herself too..huh?

  • gmak5115

    Nice, A voice of reason!

  • angelonfire

    BOUT TIME someone said something about that snake in the grass Al Sharpton. He doesn’t represent the black community so quit giving that bobble head a pedestal and platform on national media. Sick of it.

  • Don Warnock

    Kareem….you know man….this senselessness has got to end. You said exactly how many of us in America feel man! Thank you. Regardless of sports….we are all human beings….and why because humans are of a different color even matters is beyond my comprehension. Again Kareem…well said. I concur…both sides have lost their collective minds!!! Live and let live!

  • Stephen Hanley

    I so agree with you SIR!

  • Arturo Gonzalez

    Kareem, you sir are a class act. Couldn’t of had a better childhood hero. Much respect.

  • Metric-Buttload

    Well said

  • Dana Douglas

    Right on, Cap. :)

  • Layton Harman

    ” Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/admist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition

    • Rus Shore

      Do his stupid comments affect the NBA’s bottom line? If so, then yes. If not, probably not.

  • Dave Wukusick

    Way to speak, Kareem!!!!

  • Andrew Chase

    LOL and VERY well written.

  • Brian Krysz

    Kareem , thanks for an intelligent, coherent and sensible look at both sides.

  • David Tierney

    That’s fine and dandy but where is the outrage over Snoop dogshits remarks or the dumb ass player who said we should have an all black league. Let’s call everyone on there racism, not just the stupid white guy or Gringo as others would say. Or Obama, who only involves himself in white or hispanic on black race issues. Never speaks out on the black on white race issues. All hypocrites, every single one that I’ve mentioned.

  • L Jerome Dmongo

    Perfect!

  • Rory

    THANK YOU !Think about he spending hundred of thousand of dollars on Black people and that cornerwhore. But he can’t ask her to look out for him.What man want to get a call by his fellow klan man and be the butt of all their jokes.She was nasty for playing that man on weakness and recording him. HELL at least I look at this age and being a man for some of his poor choices and the fact he was in his damn house! Whats up with that low down bit!@ ?She could have took her money hunger ass some where else and bobble on someone else head.I hope no one touch her with a ten feet pole. Better yet hope the judge take all the stuff the Dumb ass fool bought for her and return it back to him or his family. If we the people means what we say…then I DON’T WANT to read or look at no picture show about a BACK STABBING CORNER WHORE.who stayed on her back and knee to cum her way up.

    • Layton Harman

      Does Sterling have a case? I mean his civil rights were violated.

      • Rory

        i think he does!

      • Rory

        But just another way of thinking about THE FINE .the fine has to do with the damage and losses he is causing the business and the team, they have loss millions already in corporate sponsorships, they are cancelling their contracts and affilliations, which will cost way more than the 2.5million fine.

      • Rory

        I don’t think so due to the way the contract is written out.You know he has a few good years if that but the corner whore still got to find another fool.

  • David Tierney

    Just today, I have already heard several examples of Sterling’s racism. One by former player Tom Chambers. But never have I heard Chambers mention it till today. After the fact. Where are your balls Tom

  • Dave

    If the paycheck is high enough, the revered, Reverend Al Sharpton will point his racially biased nosed elsewhere. With Sharpton and Jackson still running the NAACP, there will always be racism. Any crime that may involved a white person and a black person automatically qualifies for racial publicity. Which is then approved and backed by the NAACP. Therefore, keeping racism alive. Don’t keep seeing the world in color, we all bleed red.

  • Red Fish Head

    This is likely the most intelligent and informed opinion I’ve read in the last 4-days. KAJ is spot-on in his views and is calling out the right issues – on all sides!

    Sterling has been a racist for many years – documented proof.
    The NBA has done nothing in the past – documented proof.
    The NAACP will and does accept donations regardless of racist history – documented proof.
    The taping of a private conversation without the other party agreeing to the taping is a crime – look in the legal books – documented proof.

    Our media…will continue to let this monopolize the media for at least 7 more days…and in the end…Sterling won’t be hurt.

    Sterling can afford the fines, banishment, and negative views. He doesn’t give a darn about any of this…he has his millions…will make millions more on the sale of the team…and the people that have known Sterling for the last 40 years..will still suck-up to him.

    Peace out!

  • Dustin Phillips

    Kareem , You have so much CLASS, I am so proud of what you said, The truth is He was set up and a private talk is a private thing, The Law states that it is against the law to tape someone with out there knowledge, or consent, So The law should be filing charges as we chat here and Arresting all involved including the people who aired it. Jail time for THEM!!!! He was coached to say what he said, and He was worried about Magic getting some of his Girls Thang, To me The Race is all who make a Race thang. So I guess YOU ALL BETTER BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU SAY IN PRIVATE, IT WILL COME BACK on them who feel so abused, when there tape comes OUT…. Just Saying….

  • Pops Jones

    I wanted to voice my support for Kareem’s comments – they were intelligent and well-thought out. But let me leave that point for a moment to instead chime in on the overplayed, tired story of Americans as ventriloquist dummies spouting the party lines they have been fed by the liars in chief, past and present, and their minions with millions. America is no longer the republic or democracy we were raised on – rather, it is an oligarchy that is run by the obscenely rich whose agenda is simple: get MORE, and trample the peasants under foot in the process. As the Dems battle the Republicans, slinging mud, name-calling, blaming, inciting – the REPS and DEMS and LIBS and GREENS and INDEPENDENTS (read: it DOESN’T MATTER WHAT PARTY) – are all laughing all the way to the bank.

    • American666

      So true. We fight each other for crumbs while the ruling oligarchy cuts our pay and pollutes our world.

      • Pops Jones

        Yes, and until we collectively wake up, we will continue to launch headlong, willingly, toward our own inevitable destruction.

  • Layton Harman

    ”’ What about Shaq’s mocking of a young man with a physical condition? Is Adam Silver and The NBA going to address that? http://kcsportsninja.com/amdist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • Rus Shore

      What are they supposed to do? Are those comments adversely affecting the NBA’s bottom line? Keep in mind, it’s all about the money.

  • American666

    In summary, we need to do the right thing every day. It’s hypocritical to only do the right thing when a news organization sensationalizes it. Who has not made off the cuff comments in private be it out of anger or during an argument that they wish could be recalled. I only wish that when I die the racist hate war dies with my generation. Soldiers against racism often cause residual damage akin to racism. Two wrongs never make a right.

  • Wazoo2u2

    My respect for Kareem is even higher after reading this. Thanks for sharing the article.

  • Munk

    Just proves that some of the “African – American” so called leaders are in the “movement” solely for money and self – aggrandizement.

  • CaddyOne LoveChrist

    truth!

  • TruthHurts

    Its so cute how the majority of those commenting are foaming at the mouth and giving each other i-fives trying to bash each other, as if either of the two major political parties aren’t full of corrupt, out-of-touch corporate shills who never have or will give two turds about any of you…

  • crazy farm girl

    respect sir!

  • Granny

    Well said!

  • putik

    I admire and applaud Kareem, both as a player and a person, most especially for his non-biased comments. The media people are roaring in on the bandwagon, they’ll keep this alive as long as they can, for obvious reasons.

  • joshua O

    Money fixes racism?

  • AnAmericancitizen2

    Personally I think she did as all the favor by blowing the whistle on who Sterling really is… She probably was tired of him fooling everyone; that everyone was thinking he was this really great person when all the while he was not.

    • Rus Shore

      I’ll agree with you only if he was doing something specific to treat black people (players or otherwise) differently than white people. I realized he was doing so before, but he was punished for that, and I haven’t personally seen any evidence of other wrong doing related to basketball since. Although he was morally repugnant for what he said in private, if our private thoughts and conversations adversely affect our public life to this extent, most of us would be in some serious trouble.

  • Pups Maclennan

    A calm and reasoned response. Kareem is a wise man.

  • dcpost

    Kareem made the best argument of all. Kareem made a very intelligent assessment of the current news on Donald Sterling. I wish you were announcing for ESPN or other sports network. You truly understand and verbalize the current mega news media correctly.

    • putik

      That’s why he won’t be a part of the media.

  • OBomb

    Stephen A. Smith, who I never agree with on ANYTHING, brought up the point today on SportsCenter about the NAACP previously having awarded a lifetime achievement award to Donald Sterling. He was (rightfully) livid that they’d provide a known racist such an award. A known racist who was hellbent on denying minorities from renting properties he owned. And although Kareem has a great point about recording someone, it has been reported by the LA Times that Sterling knew he was being recorded.

    Needless to say, this whole situation is a mess.

  • Karol Roache

    Kareem, thats leadership. An independent thinker indeed.

  • solcotto

    I personally have never heard of this dirt bag Sterling before. Kareem is right for the most part but he seems to be having his own finger wagging Olympics. The NBA didn’t act before because they lacked hard evidence. When they got it, they did something. What did you do Kareem since you knew about this? Make any demands? Any public outcry? Don’t complain about ‘them’ if you did even less than they did.
    Don’t be a hypocrite.

    • Rus Shore

      What was Kareem supposed to do? More than likely, he wasn’t aware of what happened in the landlord case against Sterling (just as most of the public wasn’t, which is why it didn’t affect the NBA’s bottom line, and therefore Sterling wasn’t forced to sell the team at that time). I think he is correctly saying, though, that although Sterling is absolutely morally wrong for the way he thinks, it seems like the media and the public are not only jumping on a bandwagon that should have been jumped on long before this latest incident, but we’re also missing the other part of the bandwagon and giving a free pass to someone who may have broken the law for her own financial gain. Not only that, we are punishing someone for their thoughts that were never intended to be public in the first place, and may only be public because of someone else’s illegal activity.

      • solcotto

        What was he supposed to do? The exact same thing that he’s doing now. Speak out. And if he wasn’t aware of the landlord situation then what other racist acts that Sterling committed are you referring to?
        He found a way to let us know how he feels about the situation now. He didn’t say anything about this before now. If he had, he would have given us a reference to previous statements that he’d made on the subject.
        He’s not being punished for his thoughts, he’s being punished for his mentality.
        Why aren’t people getting this?
        Would you want a priest in charge of a church who didn’t believe in God? No, because he doesn’t have the proper mentality to lead a church that does believe in God. So you wouldn’t want a racist leading a team of ball players whose ethnicity is held in such disdain that he feels it’s inappropriate to be seen in public with them.

        • Rus Shore

          How can you speak out about something that you weren’t aware of at the time? I seriously doubt the whole landlord case ever came to Abdul-Jabbar’s attention at that time. It wasn’t until this incident started making huge news that that incident really came to the public’s attention.
          As for the second part of your statement, you seem to think I’m disagreeing with the NBA’s actions. I’m not. They have to protect their business interests, regardless of how the knowledge of this man’s conversation came about. What I am disagreeing with, however, is how the public chooses to handle this. This conversation was never intended to be made public. If we start censuring (not censoring) people for their private conversations, we’d all be in deep trouble. My clients would all boycott my company if they knew what I sometimes said to my friends about them. In frustration, many people will privately utter things that most others would find morally repugnant, whether we normally believe in what we’re saying or not. You can disapprove of the ignorant way people think and still do business with them. I’m a liberal, but if my boss hated liberals with all his heart, but always treated me and people like me the exact same as every conservative he loved, why would I care what his private view was?

          • solcotto

            OK well then if this is a situation Kareem was aware of before the media got hold of it, then why wait until it’s a huge story to speak out? The ‘private conversation’ is evidence. I’m at a loss to break this down any further. Starting to feel like I’m spinning my wheels here. Wouldn’t be surprised if you felt the same.
            In your initial comments you stayed that the media should have spoken out long before this latest incident. The media did speak out. They can’t be held responsible for what stories the masses take interest in.
            I wasn’t aware of this idiot but there are stories out there. They’re easy to find in Google.

  • MrRogertennis .

    typical abdul jabbar.a man of integrity and moral character.jabbar still has the guts to tell the truth .he doesn’t stand with the crowd but has the guts to stand up to the crowd!money never bought his silence unlike so many others.

  • Frank Donahue

    Why not read what he actually said, instead of this pieced-together piece of “journalism?” http://time.com/79590/donald-sterling-kareem-abdul-jabbar-racism/

    • MW

      indeed! “journalism”

  • MW

    No Kareem. Absolutely Not. You in no way shape or form partake in this role of accomplice. Just because its 2014 and we KNOW HOW TO USE A RECORDERS (thank GOD we have them) does NOT make her out of line. What if we were able to record what racist were saying in the early early 1800’s when slavery was prevalent. Would privacy be a concern then. It makes her SMART. She stopped him. There is NEVER A right to wrong time to expose RACISM.

    • Jake Kent

      Don’t make her out into a hero. She’s not

      • putik

        She’s a gold digger who lost her sugar daddy. Interesting to know how much she got paid.

      • MW

        Her ACTIONS make her a hero. Unless you can vie for her MOTIVE then in my opinion she’s someones HERO. My words… don’t make her anything. Just because her actions are not fixated and fundamental and fair and righteous and in good standing does not down play her actions. Think about it…

        • Eric

          What he said was wrong. And horrible and merits no sympathy. But what she did was despicable, not to mention illegal.

          • MW

            Illegal? As long as one person in the conversation knew it was being recorded, it’s perfectly legal in the state of California. And it’s not OK to be a racist just because you think you’re doing it in private.

          • Eric

            Nobody is defending a racist so go ahead and get off your high horse. And she is in violation of federal wiretapping laws. Federal law supersedes state law.

          • MW

            Can we agree that at least he is no longer in ownership of the organization? Or do you wish still to see him remain?

          • Nicole N Walker

            It wasnt over the phone she was there with him. He also records all his conversation because he has trouble remembering. A lawyer on cnn stated this isn’t a legal matter. Please trust before the outcome was done they crossed their t’s and dotted their I’s

          • David Bybee

            cali is a 2 party her action is a felony

          • Just The Facts

            Actually, David, it’s a misdemeanor. Rarely prosecuted.

          • David Bybee

            did you read the code I post google Cal. Penal Code § 632. it up to a felony because of the 2.5 mill fine

          • David Bybee

            sterling is intitled to 3 time the amount he lost because the illegal taping so the chick is out 7.5 mill plus court fees as of right now and she has that. so he is going to turn a profit of the fine

          • David Bybee

            the news is saying at max misdemeanor the code says up to felony

          • Just The Facts

            Wrong! Totally and completely wrong. In California, both parties must be aware that the are being recorded. In other states, only one party must be present for the recording to be legal.

          • David Bybee

            California’s wiretapping law is a “two-party consent” law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632.

          • MW

            Your characterization of her behavior as “despicable” is just an opinion, and one that’s not supported by the applicable laws. That you think it’s “despicable” to out a racist is interesting in and of itself.

        • Rus Shore

          If he was taking action against African Americans or being willfully negligent against them (as he previously) did, then I’d call her a hero for taking steps to stop it. Instead, she was taking a private conversation, albeit an ignorant and extraordinarily misguided one, and making it public for her own personal gain. He’s certainly no hero, but neither is she or her actions.

          • Eric

            Not to mention she was embezzling from the team which also makes her a thief

        • Myopinionsowhat

          Sorry she is not a hero just another person looking out for herself and she needed a back up plan and used it.

  • Cyberologist

    This woman is a hood-rat who embezzled 1.5 million from the Clippers organization, from what I’ve read she’s an “ex” girlfriend who vowed to get even she also tried to extort money from the family. Kareem is right she’s low rent she lost her sugar daddy its not like she didn’t know his views on racism she posted a pic of her and a blackman so she could evoke a response. She baited him and the old fool got caught up.

    • jojac10

      Must be some good stuff, because she made him a blathering idiot in his own house! He gave her 1.8 million dollars worth of stuff and now he looses his team because he says something stupid and she taped it. Kareem pointed out he has contributed to Naacp, he has always hired black coaches and GM’s. He was about to win an award from the ncaap May 15th, he has done the right thing, he just cant say the right thing. Ha!

  • John

    Thank God for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

    • Jake Kent

      thank Allah

  • lubaseballfan1994

    My fav all time player……gets it right again

  • kryp44

    If we aren’t living in a fascist society where your private words in your home can be used to prosecute and crucify you because you aren’t part of the society political group think and group speak, then what hell are we living in? Sterling’s money is still un-racist isn’t it? A fool and his money are soon parted.

  • Bob Fulci

    Now, who has the courage to condemn Jay-Z and his racist beliefs? Anyone?

    • Myopinionsowhat

      Ask TMZ they can get that started for you IJS lol

  • GrimesGator

    Good View there Mr Alcindor

  • Layton Harman

    How will Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/amdist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

  • Judge

    He’s right~

  • cavetrollhead

    Finger,wagging Olympics. I love it. I didn’t know he was this clever.

    • ilongo

      I guess you never saw Airplane.

  • Ramona Delzer

    And how many rich black celebrities are saying things against whites in their homes? There are a lot of people in glass houses throwing stones.

    • Brian Carter

      Name one? Oh you can’t so STFU!

      • Netta2630

        Jay Z, Rihanna, Soulja Boy,Shaq,Floyd Mayweather Jr, Oprah Winfrey, Samuel L. Jackson,Jamie Foxx, Kanye West

        • Brian Carter

          And what did they just so happen to day netta? That your mom and dad are sister and brother? Well who didn’t already know that by the look of your face? How about a round 2 of STFU and Swallow Some? lol

          • Netta2630

            Brian, who still lives with their parents,single and still a virgin….For One don’t try and project yourself as intelligent. For once let me clarify that I’m Multi-racial woman who doesn’t play that bullshit race card and is sick and tired of the hypocrisy from the one-side bastards….But you embrace this crap and love it because that’s what defines who you are, this so called thing of a man who likes to verbally abuse women and I bet kids over the internet who don’t agree to his ” Little ” ego….BALL…NET..SCORE..

    • Myopinionsowhat

      The many black celebrities are talking to their white spouses if that’s ok with you lol

      • Ramona Delzer

        Dated a black man for 10 years, many people are racist in one way or another.

        • Myopinionsowhat

          That true people of all races have some type of prejudice in them

          • Markus

            True, but will never say such kind of words ( you might not be happy about another legal different ethnic group as its pretty stupid,the other guy is going no where and its better you face up to it ).This guy is some old dumb,me makes his earns via interests from another ethnicity ,how much more dating same group he abours,this is insanity-he needs a brain surgery

          • Myopinionsowhat

            I personally think he’s getting senile and the child because shes sponging off of a old married man was taken advantage of him ( I’m not condoning his negative behavior or mindset)

  • Paul Barile

    Kareemed ‘em! Bravo, Sir.

  • Layton Harman

    Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability – http://kcsportsninja.com/amdist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • Brian Carter

      No but your mom should address the fact that the guy you’ve known as dad, really isn’t. Ijs #MilkManBaby

      • jojac10

        Made me laugh again Brian! This is better then Jimmy Fallon!

  • Observer

    Very nice Kareem. You hit the nail on the head!

  • Lou Cifer

    A guy said something racist, oh wow, that’s the first time that ever happened. Who cares.

    • davidfGuest

      Apparently the NBA, American media, 14 percent of the nation that is black, and we whites who aren’t a-holes.

      You don’t though. Hmmm.

  • Victoria Dreksler

    Kareem, You are number one.

  • Kevin Yates

    Kareem, you have just pinned the tail on the donkey. Isn’t it about time the truth behind these kinds of things came out and the press is taken to task for their sleeziness in the whole shenanigans? This should frighten everyone and we all should be interviewing them, about their untruthful, just for the money dog and pony shows.

  • me

    I can’t stand all around ignorance regardless of race smh…..

  • Jacob Marshall

    WOW

  • William Ward

    We need to stop calling someone who sees both sides of the story a “closet libertarian”. I would prefer we call it unbiased intelligence… you know…. the kind of thinking that made us realize that the world was round and that we are not at the center of the universe!

  • Rory

    But just another way of thinking about the FINES .the fine has to do with the damage and losses he is causing the business and the team, they have loss millions already in corporate sponsorships, they are cancelling their contracts and affilliations, which will cost way more than the 2.5million fine.

  • Kevin

    I am now a huge fan of Lew! And if he prefers, Kareem. (I’m that old and a Buck fan)

  • Naomi Flores

    That whole conversation seemed scripted on the woman’s behalf. Yes, he’s probably been a racist since day 1, and yes he’s did a lot of bad things, but she set him up!!! Why would you record a private conversation? Why would you even have a racist bf? Kareem’s right, why wasn’t he investigated years ago when he was doing these things?

  • Brenden PirateEye Cerndizzle

    going into the stands to fight fans ala metta world artest and stephan jackson: 116 games between the two. saying something in a private phone call: life time ban. funny how the nba decides what is a more repugnant tarnishing of its reputation….

  • Wolfy Ghalkhani

    We live in very interesting times. what with the thought gestapo telling us how to think and speak; I can almost here the clanging of the steel doors closing at the newly opened gulags. How easily we submitted to leftist dictates. sacrificing our liberties and freedoms for political correctness.

  • Layton Harman
  • Bo

    Can’t wait for the secret Michelle O tapes to be released… Sad that America panders to sleazy General Hospital crap.. This is what Hollywood contribution has been in the last two decades.

  • Tony Hamrick

    Totally agree with Kareem. But I also believe that the punishment here does not fit the crime.

  • Myopinionsowhat

    I agree with Mr. Abdul the media is lynching that poor old racist man and instead should be considering all the facts; I don’t give a flock what he has said many people and some right now are probably spewing the same hateful shat he’s saying. Its time to tell the media to get back to their real job and bring us real news instead of bs like this; there are more important issues in this world which we need to focus on. I a person is a racist that their problem not mine and I rather be farrrrr away from them

  • Sorilbran

    Beautifully put.

  • jojac10

    I have always liked Barkley, he tells it like it is and now Kareem. I now say I am glad i am not an owner who could loose everything I have because i said something stupid. If I was charged for everything I said that was stupid I could have balanced the budget. Donald’s girlfriend has got him blathering like an idiot, she has him borderline incompetant in his own house. Must be some good stuff!

    • Junie

      LOL! “must be some good stuff!’

      • jojac10

        Donald gave her 1.8 million$ of houses and cars, she taped him and got his team taken from him, and he is still friends with her, and still wants her… MUST BE SOME GOOD STUFF!!!

        • lisa

          One report said he wants her to fix it. She cant fix it. Now she wants to hide from everyone. She did this for the publicity. This is what happens when these older men date younger women. These younger women do not have good intentions!

  • http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com john america

    great comments by the cap…

  • http://WWW.REALTALKWITHERIKA.COM ERIKA PIERSON

    They got this man to the right this time. And besides he insulted the wrong man magic johnson. that decision came from high power. You can’t insult another billionaire no matter what color his is. http://www.realtalkwitherika.com

  • nhop

    This is the best commentary on the sordid Sterling affair that I’ve read.

  • Michael Jenkins

    I have an issue with Mr. Abdul-Jabbar’s characterization of this as “NSA eavesdropping”; no governmental agency was snooping on him or his mistress, like what was done to Dr. King and Malcolm X. This was a personal thing between two people that happened to be caught on a recording device; yeah, he may very well have been tricked or manipulated, but the missing fact that Mr. Jabbar neglects to include is that Mr. Sterling wouldn’t have been in this mess if he hadn’t been morally bankrupt in the first place. He was the one cheating on his wife, of more than 50 years, I might add, yet he’s arrogant enough to have an issue with who his MISTRESS hangs out with. Also, while I agree that the NAACP was completely wrong in giving him ANY award, and I also agree that there should’ve been a punishment handed down to Mr. Sterling much earlier than today, at least it WAS done, and not because anyone DID anything to him, but rather what he did to himself, with his own venomous words.

  • Campo

    Trash talk is the NBA’s stock in trade. I stopped watching when Magic came into the league. They had to stop calling traveling and double dribbles just so he could play. Now it is a goon show that reminds me of the globetrotters. Guys taking off from the top of the key and slamming it without even dribbling. All this other nonsense just makes me puke. Why is metta world pos still playing? Etc etc

  • Layton Harman

    —–

    Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/amdist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

  • Bubba1971

    Let’s not forget it was TMZ that leaked the tape and they aren’t exactly a paragon of integrity ! It doesn’t excuse the remarks. But, people love juicy gossip and salacious news in a supposedly-PC world. That smacks of hypocrisy…

  • Cage Rattla

    What a scam.kareem is a brave man Cage liked the page free donald sterling on facebook. You should too

  • http://www.renweichung.weebly.com Renwei

    There is a component of systematic inequality along with race relations here. The privileged class, the wealthy, have the ability to systematically abuse the rule of law. Prior to this, Sterling hasn’t ever been convicted of anything. He uses bully, settlement, and force-out tactics to his inherent advantage. Whether it’s not paying an ex-coach what he owes him or acting as a slumlord, Sterling has always been able to get his way through his capital advantage, money talks. Besides episodic cases like these, the taping of private conversations, people like Sterling will continue to have the ability to systematically abuse the rule of law. http://www.amazon.com/The-Golden-Rule-Inequality-Capitalism/dp/1499173318/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398829307&sr=8-1&keywords=golden+rule+inequality

    • Markus

      Humm,Word

  • Dan Cho

    Because this “collective” has expressed less outrage in the past, we should continue to do so? When exactly would it be a convenient time to express outrage, given this history? A question for those that support this line of reasoning… I’m just saying, it’s poor logic.

  • Jeff Doernbrack

    just well put kareem….

  • 55saveslives

    It’s always best when someone comments NOT first….but after sitting and letting all the info soak in. Kareem has encompassed the situation perfectly!

  • mikecheck

    Kareem is a smart man. I like what what he had to say. Also, I’d like to see anyone stand up who has never said a racist thing in their life. Thats what I thought. What Sterling said was terrible i think everybody is in agreement with that. But I agree with what Kareem was saying, recording that conversation was sleazy. Most people already knew he was racist but the NAACP sure kept cashing those checks

  • Dan Kortan

    I gotta say, Abdul-Jabbar got it right on this one.

  • Paulie Boy

    Sterling aka Tokowitz should ask for his protection back from the NAACP….with interest.

  • Paulie Boy

    Outrage over words but the media covers up 3 horrific black on white rape/murders within the last 24 hours. This is typical of blacks reveling in their victimhood. Using “racism” to excuse their ineptitude, social pathologies, and failures.

  • Karma Wins

    Hypocrisy is the real threat here. A balanced view by this guy.

  • msmakabayan

    At last! Someone with a clear view of the real issue! Don’t forget, the girl in this issue is being investigated for stealing big moolah!

  • urbanpoetpotts

    My Man !! Kareem !! Hey Mr. Sterling Your Side piece threw you under the bus !!
    ________________________________________________________________
    LOOSE LIPS

    Laying back looking watching waiting faking and taking from her significant other
    expressing love and laughter with the confidence of a sister or brother
    committing to a relationship means you’re joined at the hip like a child and mother
    Ulterior motives are like explosives turning you into a terrorist of emotions., a manipulative lover

    Pulling the pin out of a grenade while your shadow hides in the shade ducking the sunlight
    A seedy private detective negatively collecting pain and agony despite who’s wrong or right
    Running with a story to print at the Daily Glory causing the world to resent a rabid pit bull’s bite
    Silent evils that are known need not be condoned they will inflict a glare that is scornful to one’s sight

    Negative publicity will not end the sin we see like smoldering coals other fires will unfold
    burning a trail bridging a pathway igniting more hell darkening another day with a bitter sweet cold
    Did you here about this new case a carbon copy of the one yet to be erased for a million it was sold
    Everyone is becoming a junky journalist loving it when society gets twisted from ugly stories told

    Samson was a gambler killer a real lady thriller laid down on Delilah’s hot thighs and hips
    Thought that he could handle as she began to dismantle his mind after a few poisonous sips
    I wonder if his drinking cup was brass or ” STERLING ” or if he started hurling like waves tossing ships
    Secrets are made to be taken to the grave never to be released by wicked tongues and

    LOOSE LIPS

  • Alex Aguilar

    Don’t worry soon in about two or three more years blacks whites Asian all other ethnic groups will be minority’s us Mexicans are taking over America it don’t matter people like it or not we are every where so soon you will have to speak Spanish to get a job in government buildings wait that’s already happening lol

    • Tha Deacon

      maybe so, but in the meantime plz get back to cutting my grass.

  • Matthew Mitchell

    Regardless of his racist comments, he has the absolute right to say them. Do I agree with them? No, but I think that he has the right to think and speak that way all he wants without fear of being punished for it. To get punished for it is suppressing that right. We have the right to burn the American flag but not to express our views? That is a double standard. If I was Sterlng, I would sue the NBA for them doing that and not having rules that abide by the U.S Constitution.
    Furthermore, I think Kareem is perfectly right. It is nice to see someone speaking out against the double standards in this country. For all his faults, Sterling still had a right to privacy. Everyone is ignoring that completely and yet when the NSA spys on them, they get pissed. The kind of people who are crying out over this are probably the kind of people that cry racism if something doesn’t go their way too because apparently if they don’t get their way, someone is obviously being racist towards them and that is complete and utter bullshit.
    Long story short, what Sterling said may not have been okay but he has the right to say it and think that way as well as the right to privacy. If you don’t like what he said then just simply don’t support him. Don’t live at his houses, don’t get employed by him, don’t watch his team games, etc. However, DON’T go being a hypocrite and say he cant say that as well as wanting him to get punished for expressing his views in a PRVATE conversation.

    • Jay Faulconer

      Private citizens have a right to their opinion, but as a representative of the NBA (as an owner) he also falls under the definition of employee to some respect. Any employer has the right to distance themselves from or otherwise punish those who represent them if they are harming the business. For instance Paula Deen has every right to hold the views she has, but Wal-Mart has the right to not carry her merchandise if they feel associating with her will harm their business. See? Too many people are confusing this, Paula Deen’s and Phil Robertson’s punishments by their respective associates as violations of their freedom to speak. Get a job in this country and walk into work spouting racial insults and you’ll find that punishment for it is the norm.

      • WreckZ28

        He was not representing the NBA in any shape or form. He was not on the clock, he was not at a microphone, he was not in front of the media or at a game or at the facilities with players. He was in the privacy of a closed conversation where he was led into a conversation and recorded purposely for the very act of entrapment.

        I work for a company as well, and if I post that I hate black people in my home on a Saturday night at 8pm, and someone decides to tell my boss I said that, who cares? I was not representing my company, I was not engaged in any company work, and it was none of anyone’s business.

        We have the RIGHT to privacy, and the person that recorded and leaked this audio should be punished.

        • Jay Faulconer

          Regardless of where something is said, companies (i this case the NBA) are obligated to look out for their best interests. You may well work for a company that does not care about your posts, but there are companies out there that do. Schools for instance have terminated teachers who have posted content on their Facebook pages, while off the clock, because they believe it gives the school a bad image or calls into question the ethics of someone who would hire that teacher. Businesses will not suffer financial loss simply to defend that freedom.

          And the woman is a bimbo, no question there, but it depends on where the recording was made as to whether she broke any laws. In the Commonwealth of Virginia is is legal to record a conversation as long as at least one of the parties involved in that conversation knows about it. In this case she knew she was recording it so if the same law applies in that state she’s just a bimbo, not a bimbo breaking the law.

    • dubby

      You have that right, doesn’t mean you are immune from the consequences.

    • huh

      In some ways I think Silver is doing Sterling a favor by giving him harsh consequences. Imagine all the boycotting that would be done by his staff and fans. As long as their are fans in the seats and the players keep playing, Sterling is getting paid. Sterling already knows its the end of him and the Clippers. As long as their is still value in this team and the franchise name isn’t tarnished, he will be able to sell it at a premium.

  • Rob

    Are you people serious? You sound like 4 year olds trying to get out of trouble and diverting attention. I don’t know details about what anyone else has said. However, many people say wrong and offensive things and they too should face consequences for any racial motivated comments. No one is exempt. However this issue is dealing with this one man. It’s an individual issue and dealt with accordingly all situations should be. Stop it with the childish responses “what about what he did or she did” thats nothing but smoke screen. #ArmyOfOne

    • Some Guy

      Why should you face any sort of consequence out side of negative public opinion for saying things contrary to popular belief?

  • Chance

    As far as big game on a slow news day, this is exactly what happened with the carnival huckster al sharpton and tawanna brawley. Slow or no news day, and the media had a field day with the story. Follow the money, always, and you find the truth.

  • Joe Alonso

    Adam Silver is as big a douchebag as Sterling. When “HE’ took upon “HIMSELF”, “…I will fine Mr. Sterling with $2.5M, and I will ban him from any games, and I, and I, and I…” You’re a hypocritical DUCHE BAG!!! There has been AMPLE time to correct this racist carcass in the past and you did NOTHING!!!! (but kiss his ass)

    • lisa

      TRUE! Why now?

      • RightUnite

        Because it came out into the public and embarrassed the NBA, and also Magic Johnson has wanted to buy the team for some time now, and what better way for him to get his greedy hands on the team??

        • lisa

          I read today that Oprah and Mayweather are bidding on the team.

  • Renee Boudreaux

    There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” (p. 118) – See more at: http://americanvision.org/5276/booker-t-washington-on-black-victimhood/#sthash.2CQftr4k.dpuf

  • Jean H

    Sir Charles is not an owner in the NBA, nor is Shaq. They are simply private citizens who are not always wise in their comments. This is different in that the owners ARE the NBA. The league has the right and responsibility to enforce some basic standards. Not that I disagree with Kareem’s comments, they are compelling.

  • Lisa K. Boker Burgett

    The same things I said and have been questioned about… Thanks Kareem- I will definitely pass this along!

  • Kevin100363

    Extremely well said Kareem!

  • Les Jones

    this president of the LA NAACP was a former Judge with a Questionable past for taking bribes and is still negotiating money from Sterling and even defended him and this would have been sterling second image award from this branch of the NAACP

  • Sean D Ferris

    If you can get fired for private conversation in your own home be careful america

  • Mark Merrill

    Yes, insightful.

  • princesspr

    LET THEM KNOW, MR. ABDUL-JABBAR! LET THEM KNOW!!!!

  • Guest

    fgh

  • Rafael

    He couldn’t have been more correct. What he did miss in this piece was the fact that Sterling’s girlfriend is half black and hispanic. The fact that she still hung around this guy is even more pathetic. I am sure she knew of his history, but I guess if you shower someone with 1.5 million dollars of gifts it’s okay.

  • Elly101

    Spot on from a legend…

  • Patricia Landaetta

    I’m completely agree with Mr.Abdul- Jabar. I do not accept Mr. Sterling’s racism but I also do not accept that Ms. Stiviano release of such private conversation. I don’t know and really do not care how long those two were together but I’m quite sure she knew about his views on race and set the old man up. She is trash, he is a racists, who pretended or tried to forget that his girlfriend is black. It is funny, certain old men feel that having a younger person on their arm, makes them look good and certain women do the most outrageous things for men with money. Like Mr.Abdul- Jabar says on his article, she probably will become a media personality and be invited to all sorts of shows and events, how sad to think that our social mores have changed for the worse.

  • Billie Jo

    Fact is your not going to like everyone in the world. Its unfortunate sterling never got the chance to have his views changed, his Loss! Sterling got banned. Amen! Can we move on?? or does everyone need to dwell in it? why does every one else have to get pulled in? In refrence to Barkley (im not a fan).. Im white & I don’t like types of white people sometimes. My husband is Puerto Rican & I feel Puerto rican’d Out sometimes. I don’t think its racism. I think its just a expression of words. Not Literal. Life is not “Fair” & NEVER will be. racism, rich, poor, good people & bad people it will Always be something. Learn some Good Coping Skills! Morals, Respect & Faith. Stay positive don’t let this man piss in your cheerios ;)

  • Steve Cannonier

    Now there is a man with clear perspective on the issue. Our president could use a better advisor right about now. What do you say Kareem?

    • jeff_jos72

      Our President wants to push the whole race rethoric. How about he leave race alone, and focus on the foreign ships off the coast of Florida, and in our waters.

  • ForPsych

    I just want to say this. I do not know Mr. Sterlings accurate age but I’ve read different places that he is 80 yrs old. Although his comments were inappropriate, I wouldn’t expect anything different from a man that grew up during his time. I am African American and trust, my 80 yr old grandmother and Great aunts say the same things regarding Caucasian’s. They were raised in southern Alabama, were hosed down by police, etc etc …. Then moved North, ended up coming across some money and provided a life of no wants for me. When I went to high school and college and dated white men, they were outraged! But that mattered not to my love life. Now I am married to a man that is not African american and we have two beautiful twin babies. Granny loves him and them but I’m sure she is thinking “why did she bring this white boy in here?”…

    Any who, the NBA reigned down drastic measures because I can only imagine the war that would have been born if they hadn’t. There’s these things called Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, etc..that today’s society presume to be LIFE. Major corporations are pulling out because they want NO PARTS. Whether they feel the same as Mr. Sterling or not, they rather not have a known, recorded racist on their list right now. They may hate everything that isn’t themselves AT HOME, BUT would not dare let that affect their money flow. Sterlings comments brought unnecessary attention, so people are bailing on him.

    Racism is all around. I talk about white people with my white husband…he talks about black people with me. If its true, its true…if not, we discuss and MOVE ON!

    I just am perplexed of why Mr. Sterling decided to put his penis and money in something that is the epitome of what he didn’t want around..Black and Mexican. Sorta reminds me of college… The white girls were so afraid of the black men BUT IF YOU PLAYED FOOTBALL, their legs FLEW open ..but that’s neither here nor there.

    Have a great day!

    Love is love!

    P.S..

    If you have money and are in a high position, its probably best NOT to share your true feelings with your side piece. The minute she gets angry, she will drive to TMZ and sell you out for a check and an interview…

    • Justin Wingate

      I honestly couldnt agree more.

      • ForPsych

        I’m trying to find your comment about blackpeoplemeet.com so I can comment. Lol. But this app is so jumbled.

  • GOLDchains

    I couldn’t agree more with Kareem!

  • Mary Canaday Gray

    This is not a libertarian point of view…it is just a good point of view…I am a liberal, definitely not libertarian and I agree with him 100%. For some libertarian to try and take credit for Kareems common sense is despicable….but not a big surprise.

  • Signal13

    Loved him in Airplane

  • Nunzio Raso-Dj Raz

    He got beaten by Bruce Lee!

  • http://www.arrby.wordpress.com/ Arby

    Are all professional sports players as articulate, and thoughtful, as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?

  • Bonnie P

    Sometimes you can’t fix stupid…but really, what happened to sticks and stones? I’m not saying that what Donald Sterling said wasn’t wrong or offensive because it was. However, Donald Sterling was born in 1934. Back then white children were taught that children of different colors were inferior to them. Of course that was wrong, but that is how it was. When my grandmother was young in the early 1900’s, families would disown their children if they married outside of their nationality! At the time Donald Sterling was becoming a legal adult, the fight to outlaw segregation was at its height. It wasn’t outlawed until May 17th 1954 and even then the battle raged on for many years because colleges, restaurant and store owners felt that as proprietor they had the right to refuse service to anyone they wanted. I think there is a bigger picture that needs to be looked at. First of all, we all say stupid things in an effort to hurt someone we feel has purposefully tried to hurt us. Which is what I believe happened here. He was (to his knowledge) having a private conversation and did not know he was being taped. It is not like he stood at a podium with a mob of media surrounding him to pledge his dislike for black people. Also, as Mr. Jabbar stated, it was common knowledge that Donald Sterling was a racist. He had been sued for his discriminatory practices in the past. Even knowing this, how many black NBA players signed the contract to play for his franchise team? I know there are specific stores I will not shop at because I disagree with their business practices! So essentially, these players were “pimping” themselves out for the almighty dollar because at the end of the day the money was more important then their beliefs and integrity, right?

  • CynicalAtheist

    Frankly, I think this is genius! The man speaks the truth.

  • Mike Goring

    Poor, poor white people. Black people are allowed to make racial jokes and have BET just because they make less money, have less opportunity, and are f#$ked over by a political and legal system on a regular basis? It’s just not fair!

    • Some Guy

      I’m sorry, but you don’t think poor white people are’t fucked over daily by the same system? Hell, they’re poor and white! According to you, black people have an excuse for their status in life. What’s the excuse of poor white people? Can’t even make it in a country that clearly benefits being born white…

  • Leo Driscoll

    This story is a little misleading of the overall position that Kareem took. I agree that the NAACP looks really bad but both sides are not equal in fault here. One quote you left out says alot about Kareem’s position Quote from him:”Make no mistake: Donald Sterling is the villain of this story. But he’s just a handmaiden to the bigger evil. In our quest for social justice, we shouldn’t lose sight that racism is the true enemy. He’s just another jerk with more money than brains.

  • Bernard Garnett

    Charles did one time…. He might be racist, however Donald did it multiple times……. He is a rasits.

  • Troll Slayer

    Last I checked it’s not illegal to be a racist.

  • Garmont Mourak

    Kareem is Spot on. But this kinda thing Happens Every Day

  • Michelle D. Jackson

    I love how Mr. Abdul-Jabbar castigates everyone for their actions this late in the racism game. We should be up in arms anytime racism or sexism is displayed.

  • James Bizzo

    This type of wisdom is sorely lacking. Funny how the players and coaches didn’t mind taking millions from checks with his name on them before, only when they were forced to deal with these private comments that became very public. Hypocrites, all of them.

  • Tom Zhang

    Well said Dr Kareem.

  • SteveHarveyy

    It’s not about him just being a white fellow, it’s more about the fact that he’s a man in power

  • racezx9

    wow, kudos to Kareem !!! Sterling is despicable, but the media is worst and he exposed the Hypocrisy behind the entire event. He has certainly grown much wiser than his basketball days.

  • Gary Metzger

    The NAACP did NOTHING, a$ did the bottom feeder $harp-toung becau$e of the one THANG they wanted.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

  • huh

    What kind of racist would go out with someone they despise? And its not like his team isn’t mostly blacks and well paid. Just a thought but I think Sterling made a huge generalization and what he really meant was the no good blacks with no job, money and make a mess in his stadium. He said that he admired Magic Johnson and said nothing bad about him although the girlfriend tried to get that out. I think CNN should interview some of his black friends to see what they say about him.

  • Daniel T

    Donald Sterling is obviously a despicable man. His tape recorded private conversation with his girlfriend becoming World News, and him being punished for his private conversation is VERY SCARY! Prepare to have your privacy invaded people. What is next? Thought crime?

    • Matthew Rail

      Minority Report

      • Daniel T

        Absolutely! What’s happening right now is a big commotion about “race” (not defending what was said in any way). If everyone agrees that this is a good idea,to punish people who say bad things about people from another race, then let’s put it into law, because these bad people should be punished. Then what…..???? This media storm is hiding a greater issue of removing your privacy, and punishing people for what is said in private.

  • Linda M McCuff

    I understand what he is saying, but the fact is that Sterlings rants are hung out for the world to hear. Why he hasn’t been outed before now is also reason for outrage. But this mans willingness to stand by Sterlings right to be a private racist is almost as outrageous to me as his rants .This man was a employer to African Americans, and to have that kind of disdain for people of color even privately is unacceptable. Kareem has comes forward now with his knowledge of racial misdoings of years gone by, and didn’t feel compelled to then to stand against it, is a disgrace. He’s every bit as guilty as all the ones that were name by him. To participate in the world of the NBA obviously meant, if you see the racism or injustice, look the other way. But for whatever the reason this young woman revealed it, and it’s out now. The real crime here is that our NBA hero knew the truth and didn’t say anything until now. Kareem needs to take a long look at his self, and ask what made him the hypocrite that he is today. While he points the finger at real heros that are out there really making a difference, he also held the truth in unrighteousness.

    • Ted

      So in your mind anyone associated in any way with the NBA (including fans) is either a racist, a hypocrite, or an ignoramus, or some combination of these. Kareem is pointing out what has been reported in the news. You act like he was covering for Sterling. Do you submit commentary pieces in your local paper any time that you hear a coworker or friend say something culturally insensitive. I hope you don’t get hit in the head by a branch while riding on that high horse.

      • Linda M McCuff

        Hi Ted, that is not my position all, and the only one riding his hi horse is Kareem. Have a nice day.

      • Linda M McCuff

        Hi Ted, that is not my position all, and the only one riding his hi horse is Kareem. Have a nice day.

  • iam1erica

    I still want to hear what Magic Johnson talks about in private…

  • joeysdad

    I would like to know what Michelle Obama says about white people when she thinks no one is looking.

    • Ned Orton

      ? I feel sorry for Joey. That is an irrelevant illogical fallacy of a question that has no business on this thread..

      • joeysdad

        LOL! I did not post a question, I posted a statement. And it was spot on as far as being applicable to the discussion. It is just like a liberal to say that dissenting comments should not be posted. When you cannot argue with logic, shout down the opposition.

  • Ran Dome

    The nuts and bolts of the situation. There are 9+ billion people on this earth. Either we can elicit a sincere and honest vow from all of them to never in their thousands of days on the planet say anything that might come off as hurtful to each and every other of the 9+billion, or we can realize that people do and say stupid things and not fly off the handle weeping every time they do.

    • Brandon

      have you ever been discriminated against?

      • Some Guy

        Who hasn’t been discriminated against for something at some point in their lives? You are far more likely to be successful if you are tall or skinny or attractive. I’m pretty sure that lots of short, ugly and fat people feel that they’ve been discriminated against based on something that, like skin color, you often pretty much have no control over.

        • Brandon

          I understand your point but most people especially if you’re not a person of color have ever dealt with any kind of discrimination to that level the fact is you can be unattractive and white and still have a leg up on a brown person and I replied to someone that basically said just get over it.

      • Ran Dome

        Everyone has. If you’re too fat or too skinny or too ugly or too brown or too white or too serious or too silly or too anything. I can guarantee you that at some point in all of our lives someone else has looked at us and made a snap decision about us. We can spend our time demanding blood for all of life’s unfairness, or we can realize that the world keeps spinning even if one of billions of people on this earth thinks you’re a jerk, or lesser, or whatever. You can spend your time upset that the sun rises in the east, or you can make the most of your time in the warm light. Your choice, your life, and you’re the only one that’s going to be worse for wear if you beat your tiny fists against logic until they’re bloody.

  • Daniel T

    You invite your girlfriend to watch a basketball game. She shows up on the arm of someone she has just slept with. What would you say?……………………..and your girlfriend records your conversation

  • Layton Harman

    Is Adam Silver & The NBA going to address Shaq mocking man with physical disability http://kcsportsninja.com/amdist-donald-sterling-ordeal-shaquille-oneal-mocks-man-with-physical-condition/

    • Ned Orton

      Insensitive for sure, but what does this have to do with the Sterling incident exactly?

      • Some Guy

        Because in our ultra PC society, mocking someone for an inherited disability should be tantamount to mocking someone for their inherited skin color, or sexual preferences. Right?

  • richww2

    Is it true there is a similar tape of Magic Johnson out there somewhere?

  • Brandon

    sterling knew he was being recorded according to ESPN and the people that were in the room with him. if he knew he was being recorded and he said these things I don’t care he is being punished as hard as he is

  • leon fraser

    I would like to know what David Stern knew when he was at the pinnacle of the pyramid?

  • BecomingTuba

    I agree with his point that private phone conversations shouldn’t have been leaked out to the public, and certainly, Sterling was bated by a girl who probably cares less about race relations in this country than fame and Dancing with the Stars, but the collective outrage we’re seeing now is not just for his rants on this tape but also for his earlier behavior which went unpunished both by the NBA and our judicial system; behaviors most of us who don’t follow up with sports or billionaires, including me, didn’t know about. Kareem’s employing a classic fallacy of middle ground. He’s also missing the point.

    • Daniel T

      Here’s an idea – let’s all go on a witch hunt and see who is the next most despicable person who needs to be outed and punished. First it’s the famous people, because they are rich or famous, and they deserve it. Next it will come down to the person on the street. Recorded conversations will become the hard facts, and privacy will become non-existent. If you have never said a hateful or mean thing about anyone in your entire life, then you will be safe.

      • Some Guy

        I think they should set up recording equipment in every NBA locker room, then systematically revoke the contracts of anyone and everyone who utters anything racist, sexist, or homophobic, since that kind of language has no place in our society.

        Right?

        • BecomingTuba

          Let’s not use abstract libertarian fear-mongering examples to make excuse for people who have done obviously wrong things.

          • Daniel T

            Have you ever said hateful things? or things that you were ashamed of? Have you ever done wrong things? Maybe someone recorded you or videoed you? Maybe that person will shame you on Facebook. How will your friends feel about you? This is only a few steps away. Don’t think this is all about Donald Sterling, because it just isn’t. Open your eyes.

          • BecomingTuba

            I want to direct you to my first post –

            “I agree with his point that private phone conversations shouldn’t have been leaked out to the public, “

        • Daniel T

          Don’t stop there. Have the people who sell popcorn